The author's a retard. So macintoshes are using intel processors. It won't make any difference. It'll just be a macintosh with an intel chip inside. Oh, and it'll have DRM down to the hardware. That's all.
The reason FOSS applications use 'loads of libs' is for code reuse. If they didn't use libs to perform certain functionality, they would just have to duplicate the functionality with code in the app, which would be your definition of 'coding the same thing over and over'.
This is what a common libs are for, even if you do think it creates 'bloat' (whatever that actually means).
What exactly does this new release of Debian offer besides retro-linux creds?
A coherent package repository which means an upgrade path that's more than "gee, you're really better off reinstalling the new version from scratch, distro upgrades can be sort of unreliable".
I would rather have my rights protected, and have value to the product that i purchased, than a bunch of theives to copy it to the extent it has no value what so ever.
The funny thing is that DRM does nothing to stop piracy. It is not possible to make data completely uncopyable. DRM can just make it a pain in the arse for the average consumer. However, that actually makes no difference.
For piracy to occur the DRM fence only needs to be breached once. By one guy. In Malaysia, in Finland, in the U.S., wherever. Once it's unencrypted and put on the internet it can be copied infinitely.
Now what it will do is make it much more appealing for consumers to just download the pirated version because:
The whole concept of buying the real thing is so unpalatable to a lot of clued up DRM aware users.
DRM will inevitably create wierd incompatibilities and strange behaviour of equipment, which consumers will notice. Think peoples HD-DVD players becoming useless after their brand's key has been compromised.
People who actively use their fair use rights won't be able to do what they want with their media. So what use is it to them? Why buy it? Someone who has a huge DVD collection, but doesn't like juggling disks, so rips them all onto a large hard drive and transfers them across his home network/HTPC as he pleases.
I'm sure there are plenty of crazy things that companies have yet to come up with - e.g. the recent story about having a fingerprint taken and registered to media you buy. A lot of people will not like things like that.
So all the companies are succeeding in doing is making purchasing their content a hugely un-fun experience. And at the same time threatening the end of the general purpose computing device and giving monopolistic companies a greater chance to keep their stranglehold.
What becomes apparent is that the KHTML team doesn't like that Apple is doing everything they should be, getting commended for it
That's not apparent at all. You're simply showing that you don't read the kde dev's blogs and hope people reading this won't bother either and just take your word for it.
If integrating half of the patches only took a month or two, guess what- it wasn't nearly as impossible as the KHTML team made it out to be, and the code wasn't nearly as useless as they portrayed it to be.
What? How do you know how hard these people have been working over the last two months? You really sound like a manager type to me. These people mostly do this work in their spare time. They have real jobs too. They don't work on this 9-5. Saying "it only took a team of x y months to do it" is completely meaningless.
Second, they've provided several of what you've referred to as "code bombs", which is one step ahead of a company that would just provide them with ONE tarball; they're sharing work progressively, and have an active dialog with the khtml team.
Hahaha.
Read that sentence again and tell me it's not the absolute definition of an apologist talking.
And your point would be what? The LGPL doesn't say "help integrate old code". It doesn't say, "only fork recent code", or "don't fork code at all". It doesn't say "provide changelogs". It doesn't say "provide the project coders with access to your internal revision control systems and corporate network". It doesn't say ANY of that! EVER! PERIOD!
And nobody has ever said that it does. Only people like you trying to craft strawman attacks have ever brought this up. The grandparent doesn't say this, the KDE devs don't say this.
I'm sorry, but this whole thing has left me very embarrassed for the open-source community, and left me with a very bad taste in my mouth. Apple IS one of the better companies as far as contributing to open-source, they've brought open-source technologies to more desktops than anyone else, they've come up with some truly unique technology which they've provided source for- and they still get kicked in the teeth.
First of all: hahaha
Second of all: if they are getting kicked in the teeth, it's not the kde devs doing the kicking. The original blog post was aimed at clueless fanboy posters posting things.. not unlike what you've just posted. NOT at Apple. This one blog post was then blown out of all proportion by slashdot and people making strawman statements to try and spread their propoganda.
The next-generation AIM release will also be an open platform, which AOL says 'could rival even Mozilla due to its scale and the massive AIM user base.'
Heh yeah you tell 'em Steve! Stand up for our rights - we don't want pervasive DRM. We know you'll do what's right for us - you always do. I love you for making my life complete Steve.
Us Apple believers are free spirits and will never accept DRM! Oh wait but itunes is completely different because Steve says that's for our own good...
A company's right hand not knowing what its left hand is doing is nothing new.
A future with EU software patents is a future where tech companies have more lawyers employed than developers. My guess is that the people in charge of Nokia's stance on patents... are lawyers.
why on Earth would anybody want to choose a format like Fluendo that is hardly known?
Fluendo is not a codec. Fluendo is a company that builds products using gstreamer. One of their products is an implementation of the theora and vorbis decoders in java. So people can watch live streams without installing anything. If they really want to. The streams themselves are usually just theora streams.
You've both rather misunderstood what this java player is about.
And Kde and Gnome have the same amount of functionality (note: not just usablity) of Windows 98.
What is this supposed to mean? I don't see how you could think that no matter how you meant it. Have you actually used kde or gnome for more than 10 minutes? Was it kde 2.2.2?
Kde is probably one of the most advanced desktops available today for any platform. And that's not just me fanboying it. I've never seen a desktop that can rival the things kde can do. And that includes macos x. (Sure, it's 'prettier').
Gnome's pretty close too, but I can't comment as I rarely use it.
And for the record you can skin the hell out of Windows as well as have virtual desktops.
Sure, with some wierd third party shareware hacks. If I were saying this about a feature of the unix desktop everyone would be saying "OMFG do you imagine my grandma to be able to do that? Honestly you don't have any idea of what people find usable. I shouldn't have to go and download and install some obscure pieces of software. Linux will never be ready for the deaktop until...".
Anyway, I don't know how the discussion got here. I really don't give two shits about skinning. Although I am quite fond of my 6 desktops.
The whole Windows on a Dos kernel and X Windows on Linux kernel is a great example.
No, it's a terrible example. The only valid common thing in that comparison is that one has something to do with a graphical interface and the other doesn't.
Kde and Gnome look a lot like very pretty versions Windows 98.
So.. do they look like Windows 98 or not? If they look prettier than Windows 98, they don't look like Windows 98. WinXP looks like a pretty* version of Windows 98.
Holy crap - this is exactly the sort of post I expect to find in the Apple section.
As long as they're abiding by the terms of the license, does Apple, any corporation, or any entity for that matter, have any obligation to contribute anything back to the project?
Of course they don't. Nobody is saying they do.
Additionally Apple posts all of its open source code; here's the page for WebCore, which states:
Thanks for this - everyone knows this.
Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me.
Well that would be because you don't know what you're talking about.
It's quite ironic actually that the people the KHTML devs were complaining about in their blogs were not Apple. They were complaining about Apple fanboys like you who continually make uninformed statements about how cool Apple is for cooperating with open source projects, where the reality is that they effectively don't do any more than the license requires them to do.
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They wrote the code and they're releasing it to be viewed and used, so shouldn't that be lauded
Yes. They should be lauded for obeying the law. Similarly I should be lauded for not murdering those two tramps I walked past today.
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When you're talking about playing games, there's no such thing as 'have to'.
The author's a retard. So macintoshes are using intel processors. It won't make any difference. It'll just be a macintosh with an intel chip inside. Oh, and it'll have DRM down to the hardware. That's all.
So, I guess I should re-iterate the original question - what does Debian offer these days?
A lot fewer crazy software incompatibilities than the software you're advertising in your sig will.
Your arguments are perpendicular.
The reason FOSS applications use 'loads of libs' is for code reuse. If they didn't use libs to perform certain functionality, they would just have to duplicate the functionality with code in the app, which would be your definition of 'coding the same thing over and over'.
This is what a common libs are for, even if you do think it creates 'bloat' (whatever that actually means).
What exactly does this new release of Debian offer besides retro-linux creds?
A coherent package repository which means an upgrade path that's more than "gee, you're really better off reinstalling the new version from scratch, distro upgrades can be sort of unreliable".
Hey buddy, why don't you write a graphical installer for them which works reliably on eleven architectures?
The funny thing is that DRM does nothing to stop piracy. It is not possible to make data completely uncopyable. DRM can just make it a pain in the arse for the average consumer. However, that actually makes no difference.
For piracy to occur the DRM fence only needs to be breached once. By one guy. In Malaysia, in Finland, in the U.S., wherever. Once it's unencrypted and put on the internet it can be copied infinitely.
Now what it will do is make it much more appealing for consumers to just download the pirated version because:
So all the companies are succeeding in doing is making purchasing their content a hugely un-fun experience. And at the same time threatening the end of the general purpose computing device and giving monopolistic companies a greater chance to keep their stranglehold.
That's not apparent at all. You're simply showing that you don't read the kde dev's blogs and hope people reading this won't bother either and just take your word for it.
What? How do you know how hard these people have been working over the last two months? You really sound like a manager type to me. These people mostly do this work in their spare time. They have real jobs too. They don't work on this 9-5. Saying "it only took a team of x y months to do it" is completely meaningless.
Hahaha.
Read that sentence again and tell me it's not the absolute definition of an apologist talking.
And nobody has ever said that it does. Only people like you trying to craft strawman attacks have ever brought this up. The grandparent doesn't say this, the KDE devs don't say this.
First of all: hahaha
Second of all: if they are getting kicked in the teeth, it's not the kde devs doing the kicking. The original blog post was aimed at clueless fanboy posters posting things.. not unlike what you've just posted. NOT at Apple. This one blog post was then blown out of all proportion by slashdot and people making strawman statements to try and spread their propoganda.
Ironic, no?
Can we all switch to PowerPC?
The next-generation AIM release will also be an open platform, which AOL says 'could rival even Mozilla due to its scale and the massive AIM user base.'
Just use XMPP you retards.
I wonder if they'll make use of cairo this time.
Heh yeah you tell 'em Steve! Stand up for our rights - we don't want pervasive DRM. We know you'll do what's right for us - you always do. I love you for making my life complete Steve.
Us Apple believers are free spirits and will never accept DRM! Oh wait but itunes is completely different because Steve says that's for our own good...
I'm a GUI/Usability guy
On slashdot, everyone's a GUI/Usability guy.
A microkernel is not a security magic bullet.
Stop. Do you actually know what the purpose of an operating system is?
A company's right hand not knowing what its left hand is doing is nothing new.
A future with EU software patents is a future where tech companies have more lawyers employed than developers. My guess is that the people in charge of Nokia's stance on patents... are lawyers.
why on Earth would anybody want to choose a format like Fluendo that is hardly known?
Fluendo is not a codec. Fluendo is a company that builds products using gstreamer. One of their products is an implementation of the theora and vorbis decoders in java. So people can watch live streams without installing anything. If they really want to. The streams themselves are usually just theora streams.
You've both rather misunderstood what this java player is about.
wanted to kill myself after that 'grandma bangs the drum' one.
Talk about ways to make me want to buy a pirated disc.
And Kde and Gnome have the same amount of functionality (note: not just usablity) of Windows 98.
What is this supposed to mean? I don't see how you could think that no matter how you meant it. Have you actually used kde or gnome for more than 10 minutes? Was it kde 2.2.2?
Kde is probably one of the most advanced desktops available today for any platform. And that's not just me fanboying it. I've never seen a desktop that can rival the things kde can do. And that includes macos x. (Sure, it's 'prettier').
Gnome's pretty close too, but I can't comment as I rarely use it.
And for the record you can skin the hell out of Windows as well as have virtual desktops.
Sure, with some wierd third party shareware hacks. If I were saying this about a feature of the unix desktop everyone would be saying "OMFG do you imagine my grandma to be able to do that? Honestly you don't have any idea of what people find usable. I shouldn't have to go and download and install some obscure pieces of software. Linux will never be ready for the deaktop until...".
Anyway, I don't know how the discussion got here. I really don't give two shits about skinning. Although I am quite fond of my 6 desktops.
You completely miss the point of the way Free software works.
The whole Windows on a Dos kernel and X Windows on Linux kernel is a great example.
No, it's a terrible example. The only valid common thing in that comparison is that one has something to do with a graphical interface and the other doesn't.
Kde and Gnome look a lot like very pretty versions Windows 98.
So.. do they look like Windows 98 or not? If they look prettier than Windows 98, they don't look like Windows 98. WinXP looks like a pretty* version of Windows 98.
* debatable
Holy crap - this is exactly the sort of post I expect to find in the Apple section.
As long as they're abiding by the terms of the license, does Apple, any corporation, or any entity for that matter, have any obligation to contribute anything back to the project?
Of course they don't. Nobody is saying they do.
Additionally Apple posts all of its open source code; here's the page for WebCore, which states:
Thanks for this - everyone knows this.
Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me.
Well that would be because you don't know what you're talking about.
It's quite ironic actually that the people the KHTML devs were complaining about in their blogs were not Apple. They were complaining about Apple fanboys like you who continually make uninformed statements about how cool Apple is for cooperating with open source projects, where the reality is that they effectively don't do any more than the license requires them to do.
They wrote the code and they're releasing it to be viewed and used, so shouldn't that be lauded
Yes. They should be lauded for obeying the law. Similarly I should be lauded for not murdering those two tramps I walked past today.
I'm sure this will probably be labeled Troll,
That's probably because you're trolling.