And yet, the number of on-topic comments hasn't increased, either. It's not that people are getting accustomed to beta, it's that they're leaving.
We're locked into the current two-party system by the very nature of first-past-the-poll voting. We're more-or-less locked into Youtube by its sheer mass: your average Joe doesn't have the server space or $$ to hold all that video content like Google does.
We're not locked into slashdot. We have nostalgic feelings for it, but that's all.
I'm trying a new tack - contacting outside media. If Alice Hill doesn't read her own email or/. comments, maybe she reads tech news in other places. If tech bloggers elsewhere start writing about slashdot's impending demise, she (or her boss, maybe) might take notice.
I think the first and easiest solution is just the/r/slashdot subreddit. A suitable standalone replacement could be decided upon once there and free of the threat of Beta.
Amazon's redesigning their site. They're removing the whole shopping functionality. beta.amazon.com will simply show you pictures of things you might want to buy, one at a time with blinding whitespace surrounding all the pictures. You can't actually buy them, though.
Even Hugh Pickens' submission today was about Beta. The widespread and general crowd-hate may have been passed off by Dice as just groupthink and circlejerking, like the rage when Facebook changes up profile settings. But now that the site's most prolific/published submitter has threatened to leave, I hope that at least gives them pause.
There was a guy with a pretty insightful point on a few stories yesterday. His thought was that Beta is exactly what you'd look for in a site designed for CIOs and other C-level types who want to skim tech news. Just the headlines, summaries, maybe a few comments, then move on to the next. Ads specifically tailored to C-levels apparently pay more (dunno if that's true), so if they throw away their whole userbase but gain a bunch of CIO readers, they still make the same $$.
It wasn't there for me. As I said in other posts, I apparently got an even worse version than usual - there was no sidebar or footer, so no Slashdot Classic link. All I could see was the header and the stories.
Oh, thank god, I'm out. And thank you for the link - it most definitely was not there in the footer on my screen. Then again, I had no sidebar on it either (the tutorial/tips that popped up were pointing at a nonexistent sidebar), so it was probably just broken more than normal.
If this is "fine", I don't even want to know what you considered "half-baked". Stories and commenting are literally the only functions available. I can't access my profile, log in/out, look at messages, or see the poll. Hell, it doesn't even show users' sigs.
I had never seen the Beta site, so I was curious what all the fuss was about; it couldn't be that bad! I clicked the beta link, and now I can't get OUT! There's no un-beta link, and I'm auto-redirected back to beta every time. What the actual fuck.
I'd just like to know the world I hand down to my children and grandchildren doesn't include stories about "those funny switches on the wall which don't do anything." Because that's the road we are on.
See, that dystopian future just won't happen. We're not going to just wake up one day and find that there's no coal left in the ground, and whoopsie, we can't power the world anymore! It's an asymptote, not a brick wall. Coal reserves are going to disappear slowly, and new coal will be harder to find and more expensive to mine. So the price of coal will rise, gradually. And just as gradually, people will start getting power from sources that used to be more expensive than coal, but aren't anymore since the price of coal went up. We're watching that happen right now: coal prices are going up and natural gas prices are going down, and the big players are shifting from one to the other.
We'll all end up on renewable tech eventually, as fossil fuels become more expensive through dwindling supply. The point is that we should work so that "eventually" becomes "soon", for reasons of pollution and climate change. It's not because we're going to run out.
It gives them a bit of credibility that Nye is doing this in the first place, yes. But creationism already has credibility among many in the American public. Ham has to keep that going through the debate. If he comes off as ranting or raving, then he will lose much of that credibility.
Many creationists (not all, of course) that I've met have been, in most other respects, smart and rational people. They were simply taught from a young age that their worldview was right, and that any evidence to the contrary was unsupported handwaving. To have a man like Nye come in and show them that evolution is actually backed up by science could actually have an effect. It will at least plant the seed of doubt in a few heads.
Call me naive, call me an optimist, whatever. But I don't think the small credibility boost that Ham is getting is too high a price for the possibility of changing a few minds.
No, that's a relative clause, not a full sentence. "that don't need to be on the plane" serves only as an adjective for "snakes".
The independent sentence, without the relative clause, is "Finally, snakes." The primary verb is implied: "Finally, [there are] snakes." Or maybe "Finally, [we have] snakes." Or something similar.
No, I actually don't. I think exposing an all-seeing police state has great implications for the rights of that state's citizens, but has very little bearing on life vs. death. Snowden's revelations haven't actually saved anyone's lives, or stopped a war, or otherwise prevented violence. I think there are better candidates.
I'm all for Snowden getting the prize. To bad it has been cheapened with some of the past awards.
I'm not. I think giving it to Snowden would serve only as a repudiation of Obama's prize, and not as an actual reward for promoting peace. It would only cheapen the award further.
It's the Nobel Peace Prize, not the Nobel Privacy Prize or the Nobel Stand-Up-To-Authority Prize. What Snowden did was good and needed and courageous, but it wasn't related to Peace or to saving lives. In fact, it's actually inflamed diplomatic tensions. How about giving it to that doctor in Africa who didn't get it in 2013, or the megatons-to-megawatts guy suggested above?
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And yet, the number of on-topic comments hasn't increased, either. It's not that people are getting accustomed to beta, it's that they're leaving.
We're locked into the current two-party system by the very nature of first-past-the-poll voting. We're more-or-less locked into Youtube by its sheer mass: your average Joe doesn't have the server space or $$ to hold all that video content like Google does.
We're not locked into slashdot. We have nostalgic feelings for it, but that's all.
So you're saying that only Troy Barnes, the Truest Repairman, can save us from Beta?
I'm trying a new tack - contacting outside media. If Alice Hill doesn't read her own email or /. comments, maybe she reads tech news in other places. If tech bloggers elsewhere start writing about slashdot's impending demise, she (or her boss, maybe) might take notice.
Anyone have any journalist friends?
OMG Ponies also lasted a day. If Beta is a February Fools Joke, I don't think many people are amused.
I think the first and easiest solution is just the /r/slashdot subreddit. A suitable standalone replacement could be decided upon once there and free of the threat of Beta.
Amazon's redesigning their site. They're removing the whole shopping functionality. beta.amazon.com will simply show you pictures of things you might want to buy, one at a time with blinding whitespace surrounding all the pictures. You can't actually buy them, though.
Even Hugh Pickens' submission today was about Beta. The widespread and general crowd-hate may have been passed off by Dice as just groupthink and circlejerking, like the rage when Facebook changes up profile settings. But now that the site's most prolific/published submitter has threatened to leave, I hope that at least gives them pause.
There was a guy with a pretty insightful point on a few stories yesterday. His thought was that Beta is exactly what you'd look for in a site designed for CIOs and other C-level types who want to skim tech news. Just the headlines, summaries, maybe a few comments, then move on to the next. Ads specifically tailored to C-levels apparently pay more (dunno if that's true), so if they throw away their whole userbase but gain a bunch of CIO readers, they still make the same $$.
It wasn't there for me. As I said in other posts, I apparently got an even worse version than usual - there was no sidebar or footer, so no Slashdot Classic link. All I could see was the header and the stories.
http://slashdot.org/?nobeta=1 also works, if it bugs out like it did for me and there isn't a sidebar or footer.
Yup. Keep the Beta hate-train rolling. We do not want that shit.
Oh, thank god, I'm out. And thank you for the link - it most definitely was not there in the footer on my screen. Then again, I had no sidebar on it either (the tutorial/tips that popped up were pointing at a nonexistent sidebar), so it was probably just broken more than normal.
If this is "fine", I don't even want to know what you considered "half-baked". Stories and commenting are literally the only functions available. I can't access my profile, log in/out, look at messages, or see the poll. Hell, it doesn't even show users' sigs.
Poll? What poll? There's a slashdot button at the top, and the rest of the page is just stories over the whole width.
I had never seen the Beta site, so I was curious what all the fuss was about; it couldn't be that bad! I clicked the beta link, and now I can't get OUT! There's no un-beta link, and I'm auto-redirected back to beta every time. What the actual fuck.
Greenhouse gas generation (water vapor (steam) is a greenhouse gas and comprises 70% of the total greenhouse effect).
Pumping water vapor into the atmosphere does not increase the greenhouse effect. The air becomes saturated, and the excess water falls out as rain.
I'd just like to know the world I hand down to my children and grandchildren doesn't include stories about "those funny switches on the wall which don't do anything." Because that's the road we are on.
See, that dystopian future just won't happen. We're not going to just wake up one day and find that there's no coal left in the ground, and whoopsie, we can't power the world anymore! It's an asymptote, not a brick wall. Coal reserves are going to disappear slowly, and new coal will be harder to find and more expensive to mine. So the price of coal will rise, gradually. And just as gradually, people will start getting power from sources that used to be more expensive than coal, but aren't anymore since the price of coal went up. We're watching that happen right now: coal prices are going up and natural gas prices are going down, and the big players are shifting from one to the other.
We'll all end up on renewable tech eventually, as fossil fuels become more expensive through dwindling supply. The point is that we should work so that "eventually" becomes "soon", for reasons of pollution and climate change. It's not because we're going to run out.
As if Ham somehow speaks for all the people who might believe in Creationism?
Um, yes. For all of his congregation, anyway. That's why you have a publicized debate in the first place.
What do I do - oh worshipers of the intelligence of Slashdot? He IS smarter than me and he holds those beliefs.
He's your father, and he will likely die before you do. You let him hold his beliefs, and you just keep him from imparting them on your children.
I can't hear them. I think I need Mr. Eastwood to translate for me.
It gives them a bit of credibility that Nye is doing this in the first place, yes. But creationism already has credibility among many in the American public. Ham has to keep that going through the debate. If he comes off as ranting or raving, then he will lose much of that credibility.
Many creationists (not all, of course) that I've met have been, in most other respects, smart and rational people. They were simply taught from a young age that their worldview was right, and that any evidence to the contrary was unsupported handwaving. To have a man like Nye come in and show them that evolution is actually backed up by science could actually have an effect. It will at least plant the seed of doubt in a few heads.
Call me naive, call me an optimist, whatever. But I don't think the small credibility boost that Ham is getting is too high a price for the possibility of changing a few minds.
most human children don't...spend time eating dirt, plants, and bugs outdoors
I'm not so sure about that one...
No, that's a relative clause, not a full sentence. "that don't need to be on the plane" serves only as an adjective for "snakes".
The independent sentence, without the relative clause, is "Finally, snakes." The primary verb is implied: "Finally, [there are] snakes." Or maybe "Finally, [we have] snakes." Or something similar.
No, I actually don't. I think exposing an all-seeing police state has great implications for the rights of that state's citizens, but has very little bearing on life vs. death. Snowden's revelations haven't actually saved anyone's lives, or stopped a war, or otherwise prevented violence. I think there are better candidates.
I'm all for Snowden getting the prize. To bad it has been cheapened with some of the past awards.
I'm not. I think giving it to Snowden would serve only as a repudiation of Obama's prize, and not as an actual reward for promoting peace. It would only cheapen the award further.
It's the Nobel Peace Prize, not the Nobel Privacy Prize or the Nobel Stand-Up-To-Authority Prize. What Snowden did was good and needed and courageous, but it wasn't related to Peace or to saving lives. In fact, it's actually inflamed diplomatic tensions. How about giving it to that doctor in Africa who didn't get it in 2013, or the megatons-to-megawatts guy suggested above?