The money it costs to keep my computer on is worth far less to me than the ability to begin computing immediately when the need strikes me. If I used my computer less than once per day perhaps I could see it as worthwhile, but I think most slashdotters probably fit into the "it's worth a few cents to leave it on overnight so I don't have to wait while it boots and loads my browser/email/etc overnight" crowd.
No, there's no point in suing, there's plenty of point in complaining. Like how they promised they'd release everything under a free license (AFPL is not free in any sense that matters and they know it, plus it doesn't include any of the copy protection code which foro most games is a usable/not usable issue anyway.) I gave them my money and they lied to me and I have every right to complain about it. That said, they make an excellent product and it's better than buying windows- but to say that there's no point in complaining is to abdicate all your rights as a consumer.
We do live in a capitalism after all, at least here in the US.
I don't think that's right. GPL and BSD are only different in the case where you want to use the code* in proprietary software.
If you share proprietary software that uses code under one of these two licenses, there is "theft" in each case- the difference is this.
In the BSD case, the user has engaged in theft by sharing proprietary code.
In the GPL case, the developer has engaged in theft by claiming ownership of community code.
My only objection is that the original poster makes it sound like there can be no theft with software using BSD'd code, but you have to be careful with software using GPL'd code. The rhetoric hides the fact that different parties are responsible for the "theft" in each case.
*for completeness, I should say "code or derivatives of code". Lawyerese is complicated!
Interesting rhetorical slant on GPL vs. BSD, one I hadn't heard before. Folks friendlier to GPL would probably call it "sharealike" rather than your wordier construction, but you have a point - the GPL does say that not sharing your enhancements to what has been shared with you is bad.
However, I think you meant to say with respect to the BSD license that it is the "NOT sharing is not theft" license, or more appropriately the "Refusing to share even when you have benefitted directly from others have sharing with you" license if you want to be fair rather than merely interesting.
Don't discourage people from using StepMania, encourage them to use it and to pay for the official files if that's what you want. Don't give konami so much power- their interfaces tend to suck. You have to wait like 40 seconds from boot-up to your first song because of all the menus you have to wait for and navigate.
There's lots of original non-official ddr content, and those of us who own pretty much every version of DDR including imports would like to be able to play those songs in any format we choose, THANK you very much. Konami has enough of my money.
You're probably a troll in real life and not just on slashdot, aren't you?
If Bush had proposed going to war with Arab nations to prevent honor killings I think you'd have seen a lot of liberals line up to support him. You know who would have openly opposed him?
[*]Kuwait (whose rightful dictatorship we restored in gulf war I) [*]Saudi Arabia [*]Pakistan [*]Jordan [*]Egypt [*]Qatar [*]etc.
It would be helpful if you'd point to some f a c t s to support your position. Others have tried... and failed miserably.
I mean, the guy's got an angle, but he's no liar. By the way, I highly recommend his chapter on "B-1" Bob Dornan in "Downsize This". He nearly succeeds in having (then-Representative) Dornan committed based on his House Floor ravings as quoted in the Congressional Record. It's hilarious reading.
Of course, plumbers need math too. In fact, the more I do computer science, the more it reminds me of plumbing- setting the pipes up so the right stream gets to the right place at the right time in the right amounts. I have a lot of respect for plumbers because they can't just fix their code if they have a bug, they have to get it right the first time and put it immediately into production.
But I'd bet that it's illegal to lie to students about what the law is. How much do you want to bet that the MPAA flack has a, shall we say, self-interested opinion about the breadth of fair use rights that conflicts with the holdings of the Betamax case?
There is indeed a linux client, it's for the command line and it's taken me a little fishing in the.pls files to get the right urls, but here's the link:
For me it was a simple tar -xvzf, make, su, make install and it was ready to run. Seems to work really well; I think I'm about to start using a lot more bandwidth:)
I mostly agree with this, and I'm hypersensitive to RMS bashing. The Gosling article did not include ad hominem attacks on Stallman.
However, it did contain stunningly misleading comparisons between the GPL and Java's licensing. He hides it all in a clever ruse- he accuses Stallman of redefining freedom to suit Stallman's agenda, then redefines freedom himself to suit Gosling's agenda. I'll leave as an exercise to the reader which license gives you more freedoms. Hint: it's the GPL.
I haven't R'd TFA yet, but I actually have a gmail account.
My verdict: it's FAST, most everything seems to be done in javascript, much like Orkut. It's like night and day compared to yahoo, and no obtrusive slow-loading ads.
As for the privacy stuff, Brin is right- it's pretty much gone anyway, complaining about AdSense is just rearranging the deck chairs.. Especially when you sign up for a free email service- how do you expect to have privacy with a free email service? Run your own mail server if you want privacy.
Every MS product I've ever seen on a shelf had a very prominent MS logo with a hologram sticker and the word Microsoft prominently placed.
And since Lindows doesn't have an ME edition, there's no confusion. If Lindows releases ME or XP editions, then we might have something to talk about, since those are ostensibly made up version symbols that could reasonably be trademarked (like "pentium").
That's what they registerred, but it's still called and recognized by "Windows". Since the other product tries to imitate Windows, that's a no no.
1. Note the capital "W" 2. It's always accompanied by "Microsoft" 3. Trademarks can be diluted by usage. "windows" is a part of the technical lexicon that goes beyond Microsoft now (and, in fact, always was even before MS Windows 1.0)
If Windows is so widely known, then using a similar name and making a similar product was most definitely intentional.
No, it's the MS logo that distinguishes them, not the word "windows". Pretty much every graphical OS in history has used windows, the term is diluted beyond recognition.
Well, not sure why you replied to my joke post about rhyming, but you're missing something very important. Windows is a household word, and windows has become a generic term for the sub-screens on a computer display. They may own the trademark, but it's been diluted into nothingness. It's the Microsoft part of the name "Microsoft Windows" that makes it unique. Palm is not a generic term, although palmtop may be.
Microsoft's monopoly doesn't strengthen their trademark in any legal sense. If anything it makes it harder to believe that someone could seriously mistake lindows for windows since M$ is so well known.
The look-and-feel issues are separate from the trademark issues, but Microsoft famously proved that they don't matter anyway when a little company called Apple sued them some years back.
The XBox stuff is completely irrelevant.
Regarding bullies, who's David and who's Goliath in this story? I think you have it exactly backwards.
We all know that Microsoft doesn't have a leg to stand on regarding rhyming OS names.
Everyone remember Be OS? Remember when it died right around the time windows ME came out (not to mention CE)? I mean, they only had two letters to start with and M$ stole one of them.
Everyone knows that microsoft is a hypocrisy free company, and the reason they're upset about lindows isn't because of trademark issues, but because M$ hates our freedoms.
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flac is what sold me. I'm just waiting for someone to write a client that doesn't need java tho.
I agreed to not give this music to other people, I agreed not to steal music by uploading this to other people.
People agree to all kinds of things when they are in unequal power relationships. People used to sell themselves into indentured servitude or even slavery.
The fact is that artificial scarcity is being created in this case by a corrupt industry. Apple's at the liberal fringe of that industry, but they still can't let go of the central lie of the content industries, that artificially created scarcity benefits consumers.
I believe that you should not agree to such restrictions morally, but I also don't think that such restrictions ought to carry significant moral weight while the controlling party continues to act in bad faith.
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I suggest instead:
Don't bet on the S. S. Ti^H^H Microsoft, bet on a platform that you know will 1. stay afloat and 2. you can afford passage on forever.
The money it costs to keep my computer on is worth far less to me than the ability to begin computing immediately when the need strikes me. If I used my computer less than once per day perhaps I could see it as worthwhile, but I think most slashdotters probably fit into the "it's worth a few cents to leave it on overnight so I don't have to wait while it boots and loads my browser/email/etc overnight" crowd.
so there's really no point in complaining.
No, there's no point in suing, there's plenty of point in complaining. Like how they promised they'd release everything under a free license (AFPL is not free in any sense that matters and they know it, plus it doesn't include any of the copy protection code which foro most games is a usable/not usable issue anyway.) I gave them my money and they lied to me and I have every right to complain about it. That said, they make an excellent product and it's better than buying windows- but to say that there's no point in complaining is to abdicate all your rights as a consumer.
We do live in a capitalism after all, at least here in the US.
I don't think that's right. GPL and BSD are only different in the case where you want to use the code* in proprietary software.
If you share proprietary software that uses code under one of these two licenses, there is "theft" in each case- the difference is this.
In the BSD case, the user has engaged in theft by sharing proprietary code.
In the GPL case, the developer has engaged in theft by claiming ownership of community code.
My only objection is that the original poster makes it sound like there can be no theft with software using BSD'd code, but you have to be careful with software using GPL'd code. The rhetoric hides the fact that different parties are responsible for the "theft" in each case.
*for completeness, I should say "code or derivatives of code". Lawyerese is complicated!
Interesting rhetorical slant on GPL vs. BSD, one I hadn't heard before. Folks friendlier to GPL would probably call it "sharealike" rather than your wordier construction, but you have a point - the GPL does say that not sharing your enhancements to what has been shared with you is bad.
However, I think you meant to say with respect to the BSD license that it is the "NOT sharing is not theft" license, or more appropriately the "Refusing to share even when you have benefitted directly from others have sharing with you" license if you want to be fair rather than merely interesting.
Don't discourage people from using StepMania, encourage them to use it and to pay for the official files if that's what you want. Don't give konami so much power- their interfaces tend to suck. You have to wait like 40 seconds from boot-up to your first song because of all the menus you have to wait for and navigate.
There's lots of original non-official ddr content, and those of us who own pretty much every version of DDR including imports would like to be able to play those songs in any format we choose, THANK you very much. Konami has enough of my money.
You're probably a troll in real life and not just on slashdot, aren't you?
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If Bush had proposed going to war with Arab nations to prevent honor killings I think you'd have seen a lot of liberals line up to support him. You know who would have openly opposed him?
[*]Kuwait (whose rightful dictatorship we restored in gulf war I)
[*]Saudi Arabia
[*]Pakistan
[*]Jordan
[*]Egypt
[*]Qata
[*]etc.
It would be helpful if you'd point to some f a c t s to support your position. Others have tried... and failed miserably.
I mean, the guy's got an angle, but he's no liar. By the way, I highly recommend his chapter on "B-1" Bob Dornan in "Downsize This". He nearly succeeds in having (then-Representative) Dornan committed based on his House Floor ravings as quoted in the Congressional Record. It's hilarious reading.
Can't move to Canada now if Bush is reelected. Is Russia really the land of the free now? allofmp3.com hasn't been shut down yet.
That's like saying the swiss army knife is difficult to commoditize because it can't make its mind up about what kind of tool it is.
Napster, Itunes, Walmart, mp3.com - eat your hearts out.
You can buy Abbey Road online here..
Of course, plumbers need math too. In fact, the more I do computer science, the more it reminds me of plumbing- setting the pipes up so the right stream gets to the right place at the right time in the right amounts. I have a lot of respect for plumbers because they can't just fix their code if they have a bug, they have to get it right the first time and put it immediately into production.
or you could install linux and play it under wine like I'm doing. Warms my heart when I can play games that windows users no longer can.
This interview has not yet been rated by the Motion Picture Association of America.
But I'd bet that it's illegal to lie to students about what the law is. How much do you want to bet that the MPAA flack has a, shall we say, self-interested opinion about the breadth of fair use rights that conflicts with the holdings of the Betamax case?
There is indeed a linux client, it's for the command line and it's taken me a little fishing in the .pls files to get the right urls, but here's the link:
:)
http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/
For me it was a simple tar -xvzf, make, su, make install and it was ready to run. Seems to work really well; I think I'm about to start using a lot more bandwidth
I mostly agree with this, and I'm hypersensitive to RMS bashing. The Gosling article did not include ad hominem attacks on Stallman.
However, it did contain stunningly misleading comparisons between the GPL and Java's licensing. He hides it all in a clever ruse- he accuses Stallman of redefining freedom to suit Stallman's agenda, then redefines freedom himself to suit Gosling's agenda. I'll leave as an exercise to the reader which license gives you more freedoms. Hint: it's the GPL.
I haven't R'd TFA yet, but I actually have a gmail account.
My verdict: it's FAST, most everything seems to be done in javascript, much like Orkut. It's like night and day compared to yahoo, and no obtrusive slow-loading ads.
As for the privacy stuff, Brin is right- it's pretty much gone anyway, complaining about AdSense is just rearranging the deck chairs.. Especially when you sign up for a free email service- how do you expect to have privacy with a free email service? Run your own mail server if you want privacy.
No one on this site is selling MS products.
Every MS product I've ever seen on a shelf had a very prominent MS logo with a hologram sticker and the word Microsoft prominently placed.
And since Lindows doesn't have an ME edition, there's no confusion. If Lindows releases ME or XP editions, then we might have something to talk about, since those are ostensibly made up version symbols that could reasonably be trademarked (like "pentium").
That's what they registerred, but it's still called and recognized by "Windows". Since the other product tries to imitate Windows, that's a no no.
1. Note the capital "W"
2. It's always accompanied by "Microsoft"
3. Trademarks can be diluted by usage. "windows" is a part of the technical lexicon that goes beyond Microsoft now (and, in fact, always was even before MS Windows 1.0)
If Windows is so widely known, then using a similar name and making a similar product was most definitely intentional.
No, it's the MS logo that distinguishes them, not the word "windows". Pretty much every graphical OS in history has used windows, the term is diluted beyond recognition.
Well, not sure why you replied to my joke post about rhyming, but you're missing something very important. Windows is a household word, and windows has become a generic term for the sub-screens on a computer display. They may own the trademark, but it's been diluted into nothingness. It's the Microsoft part of the name "Microsoft Windows" that makes it unique. Palm is not a generic term, although palmtop may be.
Microsoft's monopoly doesn't strengthen their trademark in any legal sense. If anything it makes it harder to believe that someone could seriously mistake lindows for windows since M$ is so well known.
The look-and-feel issues are separate from the trademark issues, but Microsoft famously proved that they don't matter anyway when a little company called Apple sued them some years back.
The XBox stuff is completely irrelevant.
Regarding bullies, who's David and who's Goliath in this story? I think you have it exactly backwards.
We all know that Microsoft doesn't have a leg to stand on regarding rhyming OS names.
Everyone remember Be OS? Remember when it died right around the time windows ME came out (not to mention CE)? I mean, they only had two letters to start with and M$ stole one of them.
Everyone knows that microsoft is a hypocrisy free company, and the reason they're upset about lindows isn't because of trademark issues, but because M$ hates our freedoms.
flac is what sold me. I'm just waiting for someone to write a client that doesn't need java tho.
I agreed to not give this music to other people, I agreed not to steal music by uploading this to other people.
People agree to all kinds of things when they are in unequal power relationships. People used to sell themselves into indentured servitude or even slavery.
The fact is that artificial scarcity is being created in this case by a corrupt industry. Apple's at the liberal fringe of that industry, but they still can't let go of the central lie of the content industries, that artificially created scarcity benefits consumers.
I believe that you should not agree to such restrictions morally, but I also don't think that such restrictions ought to carry significant moral weight while the controlling party continues to act in bad faith.
Wait, this is doom... I know this!
Except in my version the next line in the script is
"Look out, VelocirAAAAAIGHH!" [munch munch...]