I survive on 8 hours caffine a day? Is that the same thing?
Seriously though, " getting a good night's sleep helps people retain some of what they learned that day". I only learn things at night, so I must get a good days sleep sometime. Trouble is lectures arent timed right.
It seems with every version of windows things are getting "easier" abd the user is, by default, taken away from the complexities of file systems and hardware.
In the days of windows 95 and 98 this was great, a large majority of people had never used a computer before, and liked the idea of a start menu.
Today there arent many people arround that cant load up Word from the start menu. Will these people, the non slashdot reading majority of computer users, enjoy these "enhancements"? Most people I know have 6 or 7 icons on their desktops for there often run programs and games, and the rest languishes in the start menu. They are pefectly able to get them though. They can right click on C: in My coputer and if theres lots of purple then thats good - they have lots of space (or is it blue for free space - I forget)
The people that have never used a PC before are unlikely to find this any easier, as when they ask their next door neighbour, who has gotten used to windows 95/98, they will get a confusing reply.
With linux heading to the main stream geek OS, and WW: PE, heading even more for the newbie, many semi-savvy users will be looking for a comfortable middle, which will probaly mean spending a few hundered bucks on the next version up from PE, or sticking with 98/ME.
They wont be able to stay with ME for long though as new technologies will require upgrades, in the same way >2GB drives needed 95osr2.
What will happen then, is complete speculation. If Microsoft continue to dumb down their $80 version of windows, I can see a growing market in replacement shells for windows.
How long before the "intellegent" menus, as in winME, cant be turned off? Will the traditional start menu be going the way of program manager?
Once people get used to an idea its very hard to take them off it.
The majority of people that have signed up will have their computers on for maybe 4 hours a day, with a lot on dialup.
Most people that
1) have their computer(s) on for 24/7
2) have a permanent network connection
Are either servers or geeks.
A sizeable proportion of geeks will be running linux or *bsd on their 24/7 machine, even if its only a firewall for the rest of the network.
This job doesnt require much processor, its a bandwith usage application. You can have a 1GHz Athlon and it will do less than a 300MHz k6 on an adsl line.
Perhaps, All I want is something that can run IE "stabily" to test javascript cross platform.
However, most people that have never tried linux, but want to, are a little unsure about repartitioning their hard drives. Even dual booting is bad enough! Likely they wont spend time in linux. With VMWare they can run linux quickly and easily, without leaving the start menu.
Or the flip side.
A friend of mine does lotus notes development. He's got debian installed and boots up every morning, clicks "resume" and is back where he was the night before, shaving a minute or two off the windows boot time. As he gets mroe confident in linux he can do more and more tasks. He's hooked on links for example.
PErsonaly I wont be using either, as when my VMware licence finishes I'll get arround to getting another hard drive and running windows on a networked computer, using VNC, for no performance hit.
VMWare's licensing is changing though. I got this email last week
Dear VMware Customer,
When we introduced VMware software, we wanted to allow students and
hobbyists to use our product on a private, non-commercial basis. So
we created a hobbyist/student price and made it available on the
"honor" system. For a single-user electronic license, the discount
price was US$99. And the price for the packaged product was US$129.
We are dedicated to keeping this valuable discount for our academic
customers. However, in the future we will handle these sales through
a distributor who specializes in selling to students and other
academics via educational channels -- such as campus bookstores,
catalogs, and Web sites. (Watch your email for the complete details.)
And we will continue to deal directly with academic institutions that
wish to buy multiple copies of VMware for their classes and
training programs.
If you qualify for the current program, there's still time to act.
The last day for new non-commercial orders is December 4th. To order
a copy, visit our store on the VMware Web site. The hobbyists/student
discount information is located at
http://vmware1.m0.net/m/s.asp?H2458203403X900171 .
Sincerely,
Perhaps someone should tell this guy. I think I read something that he'd already put a few million up and done a load of training - but I cant find the link anywhere.
Unfortunatly the vast majority of people now have never even heard of archie. I've been on the net for about as long as practable, but that's ony 5 or 6 years.
I have never even used archie, I read about it in an early internet for dummies, but ask 99.99% of people and they wont have a clue.
Worse than that, todays computer science students - with thair microsoft loving ways, dont even know anything more then http, ftp and napster!
Sites like these litter the internet.
I think the main reason, from my brief research, is
Archie Closed archie.switch.ch closed down on 28 September 1999. The Canadian software company Bunyip, supplier of the Archie server software, closed down in May 1999. Having no more support for the software and no source code...
That was from hotbot's search engine. I cant get to the site at the moment.
Were any archie servers open source? That looks like your best bet. I wish I could help.
I completely agree with you Mr. 11. However only wimps use lynx. Whats wrong with telnetting to port 80 and "GET/"? Afterall html is just text, and displaying it formatted is a corruption.
From what I've heard (I'll try netscape 6 tonight though), it is pretty bad. Mozilla is a great product, and getting stabler by the day (literaly), however, I believe that netscape split from mozilla a while back.
I cant see the benifit of going with netscape over mozilla. It would be nice if netscape can continue against IE, but if its buggy I doubt it. IE6 is going into beta testing, and It's bound to have lots more bloated features to keep the plebs happy.
As far as I can tell, for mainstream (Windows), Opera will not get market penenetration, mainly the fact it costs money.
Netscape wont get in either because (aside from any bugs that are in it), it is not IE (and there are many sites that are IE only), and people dont want to download massive files over their 56k modem to look at web sites when they dont need to.
The more technicaly minded, namely slashdot readers, will give all browsers a try. It saddens me, however, that over half the people on my computer science course thing Linux is the scum of the earth and are quite happy to reboot into windows (we dual boot) to read their email, or write in a text editor, then give linux a try!
With the software engineers of the future thinking like that, what will the world be like?
What is the point? Do you realy see microsoft renouncing.com in favour of.monoploy?
Thers a lot of country domains now, yet when was the last.us you saw?.uk is slightly better but the majority of whater.co.uk sites are exactly the same as whatever.com.
Even your local ma and par shop is a.com now..com should mean international company, but in my "42% of statistics are made up" mode I'd gues half of.com sites arent companies, and 70% of the rest arent international.
Even if there were enough TLD's so that major companies couldnt register, do you realy think a site could exist at www.aol.dj?? Nope, AOL would sue their butts because of those 3 letters.
New TLD's wont increase the number of TLD's available. People get confused ofer apache.com and apache.org, imagine another 20 apache.* sites! Even the great slashdot, home of the geek, who should know the difference between.com and.org, has both TLD's covered.
The general public want to type one word in and
Whatever happens with the new TLD's,.com will always be the most desirable.
The only way of changing the system would be to delete all.com,.org,.net and any other TLD now, and replace them with much more specific names, like.food,.gnu and.computers
When they are installing this software, what is to stop them blocking DeCSS? It would be a lot simpler to detect then copyrighted mp3's (what If I rip me a copy of my new britney spears CD?)
Of course, DeCSS relys on deep linking to a certain extent. Illegal mp3 sites would not be affected, neither would links to pages that say "click this to download an mp3".
This could be a great system. A friend and me are looking for a way of synchronising our mp3 collection - but not copying the same song if theres a few seconds in difference in size, or a different name.
The trouble with any site like this is if you want people to access your data from a Berne Convention signee, you will have to be connected to the internet in general.
For that to happen you need a big pipe connected to other ISP's. If a government wanted to they could force the ISP to block all of your traffic, so you'd be stuck.
I've been running 2.4.0test10 for a while, I had just the one problem when I installed it - I no longer needed the ide2=xxx ide3=xxx appeneded to lilo - infact it wouldnt boot up with it appended.
Aside from that minor glitch it's been absolutly fine. I'm looking forward to trying DRI out when I get xfree 4 working.
I dont have any USB devices, I only have one processor, all in all 2.4.0 doesnt off that many improovements on 2.2.17.
I'd be interested in knowing what is planning to go into 2.6/3.0 though.
Telecommuting is all well and good - but do you want to be a hermit?
Rise at 11AM, slump 5 yards to coffee machine and prss a button. Log in, then while drinking coffee catch up with email, slashdot and other important "cant miss" work things.
At 1PM, put something in the microwave and think about begining work. Assumung you are self disaplined you are finished by 7PM, just in time to flick on the news.
If you arent however you'll do 1/2 an hours work before drifting back to a game of quake - you'll put the time in at the end of day/week/month you say.
Your daily workload is finished by 10PM, and your pizza arrives (please tip the pizza guy - thanks). You watch a pr0n video and have a few hour of counterstrike before slipping back into bed.
You havent got dressed all day, you havent seen the sun, you've not spoken to another living soul, you've missed buying the paper from Bernie on the street outside, you've missed on the latest gossip.
Working from home seems idilic, but you dont see anyone, have hundereds of distractions, you think of your apt. as a cell, you might even start to resent your computer!
Slashdot Mirror
Fogive me, as I've been up all night again. Is it April 1st? Do my tired eyes deceive me? Has a company just bought 100,000 people?
Are there any slashdot readers from Tonga? Did you sign a consent form? How much have you been paid?
To the rest of us, how long before Microsoft buy your DNA? Will you have to sign a EULA before conceiving a child?
I survive on 8 hours caffine a day? Is that the same thing?
Seriously though, " getting a good night's sleep helps people retain some of what they learned that day". I only learn things at night, so I must get a good days sleep sometime. Trouble is lectures arent timed right.
It seems with every version of windows things are getting "easier" abd the user is, by default, taken away from the complexities of file systems and hardware.
In the days of windows 95 and 98 this was great, a large majority of people had never used a computer before, and liked the idea of a start menu.
Today there arent many people arround that cant load up Word from the start menu. Will these people, the non slashdot reading majority of computer users, enjoy these "enhancements"? Most people I know have 6 or 7 icons on their desktops for there often run programs and games, and the rest languishes in the start menu. They are pefectly able to get them though. They can right click on C: in My coputer and if theres lots of purple then thats good - they have lots of space (or is it blue for free space - I forget)
The people that have never used a PC before are unlikely to find this any easier, as when they ask their next door neighbour, who has gotten used to windows 95/98, they will get a confusing reply.
With linux heading to the main stream geek OS, and WW: PE, heading even more for the newbie, many semi-savvy users will be looking for a comfortable middle, which will probaly mean spending a few hundered bucks on the next version up from PE, or sticking with 98/ME.
They wont be able to stay with ME for long though as new technologies will require upgrades, in the same way >2GB drives needed 95osr2.
What will happen then, is complete speculation. If Microsoft continue to dumb down their $80 version of windows, I can see a growing market in replacement shells for windows.
How long before the "intellegent" menus, as in winME, cant be turned off? Will the traditional start menu be going the way of program manager?
Once people get used to an idea its very hard to take them off it.
Even so, I know 3 windows users that leaves their computers on 24/7, compared with about 10 linux users, thats with permanent connections.
The majority of people that have signed up will have their computers on for maybe 4 hours a day, with a lot on dialup.
Most people that
1) have their computer(s) on for 24/7
2) have a permanent network connection
Are either servers or geeks.
A sizeable proportion of geeks will be running linux or *bsd on their 24/7 machine, even if its only a firewall for the rest of the network.
This job doesnt require much processor, its a bandwith usage application. You can have a 1GHz Athlon and it will do less than a 300MHz k6 on an adsl line.
And it still crashes
permanently connected Windows-based machines
Presumably Windows would have to go without a reboot for 24 hours a day?
Perhaps, All I want is something that can run IE "stabily" to test javascript cross platform.
However, most people that have never tried linux, but want to, are a little unsure about repartitioning their hard drives. Even dual booting is bad enough! Likely they wont spend time in linux. With VMWare they can run linux quickly and easily, without leaving the start menu.
Or the flip side.
A friend of mine does lotus notes development. He's got debian installed and boots up every morning, clicks "resume" and is back where he was the night before, shaving a minute or two off the windows boot time. As he gets mroe confident in linux he can do more and more tasks. He's hooked on links for example.
PErsonaly I wont be using either, as when my VMware licence finishes I'll get arround to getting another hard drive and running windows on a networked computer, using VNC, for no performance hit.
VMWare's licensing is changing though. I got this email last week
1 .
Dear VMware Customer,
When we introduced VMware software, we wanted to allow students and
hobbyists to use our product on a private, non-commercial basis. So
we created a hobbyist/student price and made it available on the
"honor" system. For a single-user electronic license, the discount
price was US$99. And the price for the packaged product was US$129.
We are dedicated to keeping this valuable discount for our academic
customers. However, in the future we will handle these sales through
a distributor who specializes in selling to students and other
academics via educational channels -- such as campus bookstores,
catalogs, and Web sites. (Watch your email for the complete details.)
And we will continue to deal directly with academic institutions that
wish to buy multiple copies of VMware for their classes and
training programs.
If you qualify for the current program, there's still time to act.
The last day for new non-commercial orders is December 4th. To order
a copy, visit our store on the VMware Web site. The hobbyists/student
discount information is located at
http://vmware1.m0.net/m/s.asp?H2458203403X90017
Sincerely,
The VMware Team
Mind you, I guess it cant be less stable the Win95 - and even if it was, how could you tell what had crashed?
Yes it boots, but I've tried VMWare, and it runs great. HOw stable is plex86 running these OS's?
Perhaps someone should tell this guy. I think I read something that he'd already put a few million up and done a load of training - but I cant find the link anywhere.
Unfortunatly the vast majority of people now have never even heard of archie. I've been on the net for about as long as practable, but that's ony 5 or 6 years.
I have never even used archie, I read about it in an early internet for dummies, but ask 99.99% of people and they wont have a clue.
Worse than that, todays computer science students - with thair microsoft loving ways, dont even know anything more then http, ftp and napster!
Sites like these litter the internet.
I think the main reason, from my brief research, is
Archie Closed archie.switch.ch closed down on 28 September 1999. The Canadian software company Bunyip, supplier of the Archie server software, closed down in May 1999. Having no more support for the software and no source code...
That was from hotbot's search engine. I cant get to the site at the moment.
Were any archie servers open source? That looks like your best bet. I wish I could help.
I see, and how is notepad superior to xemacs (with color syntax highlighting, auto indentation etc. etc.
How does "what works best" only work 3/4 of the time?
How can they make an informed desicision without using both operating systems?
I completely agree with you Mr. 11. However only wimps use lynx. Whats wrong with telnetting to port 80 and "GET /"? Afterall html is just text, and displaying it formatted is a corruption.
Dont feed the trolls. Dont mod up the trolls.
From what I've heard (I'll try netscape 6 tonight though), it is pretty bad. Mozilla is a great product, and getting stabler by the day (literaly), however, I believe that netscape split from mozilla a while back.
I cant see the benifit of going with netscape over mozilla. It would be nice if netscape can continue against IE, but if its buggy I doubt it. IE6 is going into beta testing, and It's bound to have lots more bloated features to keep the plebs happy.
As far as I can tell, for mainstream (Windows), Opera will not get market penenetration, mainly the fact it costs money.
Netscape wont get in either because (aside from any bugs that are in it), it is not IE (and there are many sites that are IE only), and people dont want to download massive files over their 56k modem to look at web sites when they dont need to.
The more technicaly minded, namely slashdot readers, will give all browsers a try. It saddens me, however, that over half the people on my computer science course thing Linux is the scum of the earth and are quite happy to reboot into windows (we dual boot) to read their email, or write in a text editor, then give linux a try!
With the software engineers of the future thinking like that, what will the world be like?
What would I find on www.microsoft.xxx, www.cnn.xxx and www.slashdot.xxx?
What is the point? Do you realy see microsoft renouncing .com in favour of .monoploy?
.us you saw? .uk is slightly better but the majority of whater.co.uk sites are exactly the same as whatever.com.
.com now. .com should mean international company, but in my "42% of statistics are made up" mode I'd gues half of .com sites arent companies, and 70% of the rest arent international.
.com and .org, has both TLD's covered.
.com will always be the most desirable.
.com, .org, .net and any other TLD now, and replace them with much more specific names, like .food, .gnu and .computers
Thers a lot of country domains now, yet when was the last
Even your local ma and par shop is a
Even if there were enough TLD's so that major companies couldnt register, do you realy think a site could exist at www.aol.dj?? Nope, AOL would sue their butts because of those 3 letters.
New TLD's wont increase the number of TLD's available. People get confused ofer apache.com and apache.org, imagine another 20 apache.* sites! Even the great slashdot, home of the geek, who should know the difference between
The general public want to type one word in and
Whatever happens with the new TLD's,
The only way of changing the system would be to delete all
Just my ramblings.
When they are installing this software, what is to stop them blocking DeCSS? It would be a lot simpler to detect then copyrighted mp3's (what If I rip me a copy of my new britney spears CD?)
Of course, DeCSS relys on deep linking to a certain extent. Illegal mp3 sites would not be affected, neither would links to pages that say "click this to download an mp3".
This could be a great system. A friend and me are looking for a way of synchronising our mp3 collection - but not copying the same song if theres a few seconds in difference in size, or a different name.
:)
this system could be very useful
The trouble with any site like this is if you want people to access your data from a Berne Convention signee, you will have to be connected to the internet in general.
For that to happen you need a big pipe connected to other ISP's. If a government wanted to they could force the ISP to block all of your traffic, so you'd be stuck.
I've been running 2.4.0test10 for a while, I had just the one problem when I installed it - I no longer needed the ide2=xxx ide3=xxx appeneded to lilo - infact it wouldnt boot up with it appended.
Aside from that minor glitch it's been absolutly fine. I'm looking forward to trying DRI out when I get xfree 4 working.
I dont have any USB devices, I only have one processor, all in all 2.4.0 doesnt off that many improovements on 2.2.17.
I'd be interested in knowing what is planning to go into 2.6/3.0 though.
"One more post"
Well, this is the one more post, which means you're not allowed to post who actualy wins - and dont edit - thats cheating!
After browsing this, my memory of numerous comments on this exact subject, on this exact page, not too long ago.
NEXT!
Telecommuting is all well and good - but do you want to be a hermit?
Rise at 11AM, slump 5 yards to coffee machine and prss a button. Log in, then while drinking coffee catch up with email, slashdot and other important "cant miss" work things.
At 1PM, put something in the microwave and think about begining work. Assumung you are self disaplined you are finished by 7PM, just in time to flick on the news.
If you arent however you'll do 1/2 an hours work before drifting back to a game of quake - you'll put the time in at the end of day/week/month you say.
Your daily workload is finished by 10PM, and your pizza arrives (please tip the pizza guy - thanks). You watch a pr0n video and have a few hour of counterstrike before slipping back into bed.
You havent got dressed all day, you havent seen the sun, you've not spoken to another living soul, you've missed buying the paper from Bernie on the street outside, you've missed on the latest gossip.
Working from home seems idilic, but you dont see anyone, have hundereds of distractions, you think of your apt. as a cell, you might even start to resent your computer!
It's not all rosy.