I will believe it is a Royalty-Free, Open standard when I see it. I have seen some mention of China releasing the spec, but is that to vendors only? And is there really no DRM? I will buy an EVD player and some discs if they are HD, and the specs are open, and no effective DRM is used. After all, I want to play the discs in Linux or whatever future device I want. Otherwise, I'll stick with the last effectively-open standard, DVD. DRM or private specification is the path of the Laser Disc.
According to the article, They mention the Treacherous Computing nature of the OS and that the Genuine checks cause problems with upgrades. Though more details would be helpful.
Eventually MS and others pushing [Un]Trusted Computing and Digital Restrictions Management will find out that the strangle grip is not the best way to hold and attract costumers.
HP was saying was saying that the computer is not a product if it does not have X bundled. Where X is brand MS OS.
Of course the computer is still a product without an OS which can easily be purchased separately.
The problem is not bundling either. It is about bundling another product whether or not the customer wants to buy the other product. The bundle deal artificially helps sales of product X, sacrificing consumer price and market competition
If a shower door company made deals with all of the tub manufacturers to include their shower door with every tub purchase. Then the customer pays more for the tub purchase even if they intend to use no door, a curtain, another door, or a door they purchased previously.
The same is true with a computer purchase. I would probably have more use for a shower door if it was bundled with my notebook computer than a copy of MS Windows. The shower door may cost me less, as well.
A DVD player without a DVD is not a product, because it doesn't work... A DVD player without a TV is not a product, because it doesn't work... A toy without batteries is not a product, because it doesn't work...
While you need to go to a store to buy batteries and DVD for your non-products, for an OS, you may not even need to go to the store. You could download one of many free Linux (or BSD or other) OS's many of which do not even need to be installed to function.
Well, you were supposed to turn off your ringer in a movie theater or concert performance or whatever.
Otherwise you are that guy who abuses and annoys the other customers.
vibrate incoming calls could still work in a "blocked zone". Or better, you get the "voicemail notification".
I am not sure where you got the idea of some constitutional right to talk unrestricted on the phone everywhere, even others private property. Allowing block zones is nicer than requiring handing in phones, or having lead or thick walls which they could also do.
A regulated short-range device that sends a "block non-emergency calls" signal. This device would be legal on private property and some government property.
Then a cell phone call for 911 (and other registered emergency numbers). The cell phone would detect block signal, relay "in a blocked zone" to the tower...network. Then the call would only be connected if emergency number.
Or, I guess some "Do-not-cell" database which relied on GPS.
Bobism is a translation of the Holy Bible, where Bob's true name is revealed. You may examine the Bible if you wish.
In the past, religions had decided to omit a god's name. Perhaps this was because using an explicit name sounded too much like an imaginary friend, or perhaps the use of the original different names tended to show the transition of the religion from polytheism to a monolotory religion, to monotheism.
But I disagree. I think using the true name of the one true god, Bob, helps to show the true nature of the religion.
Our purpose in life is worship Bob, and "glorify Bob"(?). Our purpose after life is worship Bob, and "glorify Bob". Bob's purpose is to be worshipped. The first four commandments are basically "Bow down and neal before Bob". The whole point of Bobism, is to come up with a fantastic tale of Bob trying to control the actions of people, then impregnate a virgin with Bob Jr. who dies then comes back to life. Then the people that believe the story will obviously be good and obedient worshippers. Bob really needs to be worshipped.
As for the historical record of Bob and Bob Jr., well we have been working on that with various "scientists" and "historians", and websites like answersfrombob.com, but you know what, scientific and historic evidence of the magic and miracles is hard to come by, and often questionable. I mean there is historical evidence that "Sinterklaas" existed too, but finding historical evidence of flying deer is hard.
But Bobism is not about using the scientific method or using common historical methods to find any historic significance of the Holy Bible of Bob.
Bobism is about having Faith that Bob is all-knowing and all-worthy and we should worship Bob and Bob Jr. for eternity. Because it's fun.
As a believer in the non-fictitious,all-powerful Bob, I share similar beliefs as you.
It is the Bobism faith alone that can account for logic, reason, and rationality.
Why should anyone be rational if the Bob does not exist? Why are men under any obligation to be rational in a materialistic universe?
As a Bobist, I believe all men should be rational. I believe people should believe things on good evidence. I think we are under obligation to use our intellectual tools to glorify Bob, and to learn about this world--we should be consistent. I believe that because Bob requires all men to be rational. I can make sense of the obligation to be rational.
If this world is sound and fury signifying nothing, why must men be rational? Why don't I just live moment by moment and be inconsistent: thinking on thing one time and another thing another time, caring nothing for logic? After all, logic has no place in the material universe--it is an abstract, non-material set of laws. How can laws of logic actually exist in an atheistic universe?
The odd thing about the materialist is this: the materialist who wants to be rational has already departed from his materialism.
If you are a materialist, you have a naturalistic explanation for everything we say and do. What's going on in this gray matter in my cranium is controlled by the laws of physics and chemistry and biology. I don't really think, I'm really like a weed that's growing. Weeds don't think, and neither do I, we're all subject to the laws of physics, I'm just at a more complicated/complex level.
If naturalism is true, there's no such thing as rationality, there's just whatever people end up thinking and doing. Why call men to be rational then?
However, the Bob calls men to be consistent and rational. For the Bobist, I can expect all men to be obligated to be rational. Not so for those who reject Bob.
"Sigh...no, because there is no guarantee that the image you were shown was written to the DVD"
With the current e-voting in California, the voter sees the printed vote and 2D barcode behind glass.
If you are not going to believe that the image shown was actually read from the DVD (after being written), then I assume you would not trust the 2D barcode (which is what would be re-counted, after or along with other backup mechanisms).
I have decided that paper is the most reliable backup/journal mechanism.
I have decided that instead of using DVD media to backup, I am going to print 2d bar codes to paper for every disk operation. Also, I will print the operation in english so I can verify that it did the right thing.
Then if I have a disk crash, I just just scan in each operation in sequence to restore the disk.
Yes, you probably think I am sarcastic and you will tell me that paper lets you verify the vote and allows spot audits.
I would say that the "paper trail" addresses a media/news issue rather than a technical one.
This demand for paper backup is an odd hope that 100 year old cash register technology is the best.
One could accomplish the same thing, by writing the vote, and a human readable JPEG image to DVD, and show the image to the voter for verification.
Open source indemnification is FUD that was started by SCO.
As an individual, you will not be sued for using Linux.
If you are a mega company, and you resell Linux, perhaps someone will lodge a "trivial patent" lawsuit or other lawsuit at you. But that could happen with other software that you re-license. And that's what the lawyers are for. And hopefully patent laws get fixed someday.
Microsoft would love to do the same thing, and would I guess that they are planning to, but letting Apple pull it first, as Apple can get away with it.
Microsoft: "Apple used DRM music first, so locking everyone into our music player with DRM/Encrypted-Music is no worse".
Microsoft: "Apple used DRM binaries first, so locking everyone into our OS and Applications with DRM/Encrypted-Binaries is no worse".
Myself along with many others are looking to buy a set-top media box that:
- is open: can run MythTV,Linux,Vlc,mplayer,... and no reverse engineering is required to use basic hardware (and hopefully mpeg decoders). - has DVI output - has S/PDIF out - is fanless
Basically an open DVD player with DVI out. A DVD player costs $50, but an "open" DVD player costs $1500? $300-$500 would be ok.
Or basically, a fanless mac mini, fanless MiniPC,...
copyright infringement infringement, according to the intent of the US constitution on the matter, would be wrong only when it prevents the promotion of science and useful arts.
I can think ways that current copyright and patent laws are preventing the advancement that they were intending to promote.
I also think that distribution of information is positive if the information has value, and can be profitable even without sale as it acts as free advertisement.
The internet is disruptive, as the printing press was. Some are still trying to hold back progress to keep the old business model.
Some pretend or believe that there is some moral right for a company to milk money from old ideas forever. This is not so, but our current legal trend is leading to more artificial legal information control, and the thought crimes that result.
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I will believe it is a Royalty-Free, Open standard when I see it.
I have seen some mention of China releasing the spec, but is that to vendors only?
And is there really no DRM?
I will buy an EVD player and some discs if they are HD, and the specs are open, and no effective DRM is used. After all, I want to play the discs in Linux or whatever future device I want.
Otherwise, I'll stick with the last effectively-open standard, DVD.
DRM or private specification is the path of the Laser Disc.
According to the article, They mention the Treacherous Computing nature of the OS and that the Genuine checks cause problems with upgrades. Though more details would be helpful.
Eventually MS and others pushing [Un]Trusted Computing and Digital Restrictions Management will find out that the strangle grip is not the best way to hold and attract costumers.
Yes, quite absurd.
That was the point.
HP was saying was saying that the computer is not a product if it does not have X bundled.
Where X is brand MS OS.
Of course the computer is still a product without an OS which can easily be purchased separately.
The problem is not bundling either. It is about bundling another product whether or not the customer wants to buy the other product. The bundle deal artificially helps sales of product X, sacrificing consumer price and market competition
If a shower door company made deals with all of the tub manufacturers to include their shower door with every tub purchase. Then the customer pays more for the tub purchase even if they intend to use no door, a curtain, another door, or a door they purchased previously.
The same is true with a computer purchase. I would probably have more use for a shower door if it was bundled with my notebook computer than a copy of MS Windows.
The shower door may cost me less, as well.
A DVD player without a DVD is not a product, because it doesn't work...
A DVD player without a TV is not a product, because it doesn't work...
A toy without batteries is not a product, because it doesn't work...
While you need to go to a store to buy batteries and DVD for your non-products,
for an OS, you may not even need to go to the store. You could download one of many free Linux (or BSD or other) OS's many of which do not even need to be installed to function.
Perhaps batteries are not the best comparison.
fedora and debian need to come up with a unified package database format (xml) that supports the superset of popular package formats.
The "experts" decided that OK on the right, while not natural for left-to-right readers, was optimal for a mouse.
With other pointer devices (touch screen, touch pad, wiii-controller, bar-of-soap), such an optimization is not helpful.
So can we now put the OK CANCEL back to left-to-right ordering?
Of course removing the Java dependency may be a good start.
Well, you were supposed to turn off your ringer in a movie theater or concert performance or whatever.
Otherwise you are that guy who abuses and annoys the other customers.
vibrate incoming calls could still work in a "blocked zone".
Or better, you get the "voicemail notification".
I am not sure where you got the idea of some constitutional right to talk unrestricted on the phone everywhere, even others private property. Allowing block zones is nicer than requiring handing in phones, or having lead or thick walls which they could also do.
A regulated short-range device that sends a "block non-emergency calls" signal.
This device would be legal on private property and some government property.
Then a cell phone call for 911 (and other registered emergency numbers). The cell phone would detect block signal, relay "in a blocked zone" to the tower...network. Then the call would only be connected if emergency number.
Or, I guess some "Do-not-cell" database which relied on GPS.
But "jamming" seems to be the wrong approach.
A gill pack would be nice for walking around on the other 3/4 of the planet.
Though it's not the same, as I think fish get oxygen from dissolved free oxygen, not by splitting H20.
What to do with all this extra hydrogen?
NFS has More Flaws Than File Server?
yes, what exactly is the title talking about?
Bobism is a translation of the Holy Bible, where Bob's true name is revealed. You may examine the Bible if you wish.
In the past, religions had decided to omit a god's name. Perhaps this was because using an explicit name sounded too much like an imaginary friend, or perhaps the use of the original different names tended to show the transition of the religion from polytheism to a monolotory religion, to monotheism.
But I disagree. I think using the true name of the one true god, Bob, helps to show the true nature of the religion.
Our purpose in life is worship Bob, and "glorify Bob"(?).
Our purpose after life is worship Bob, and "glorify Bob".
Bob's purpose is to be worshipped.
The first four commandments are basically "Bow down and neal before Bob".
The whole point of Bobism, is to come up with a fantastic tale of Bob trying to control the actions of people, then impregnate a virgin with Bob Jr. who dies then comes back to life. Then the people that believe the story will obviously be good and obedient worshippers.
Bob really needs to be worshipped.
As for the historical record of Bob and Bob Jr., well we have been working on that with various "scientists" and "historians", and websites like answersfrombob.com, but you know what, scientific and historic evidence of the magic and miracles is hard to come by, and often questionable. I mean there is historical evidence that "Sinterklaas" existed too, but finding historical evidence of flying deer is hard.
But Bobism is not about using the scientific method or using common historical methods to find any historic significance of the Holy Bible of Bob.
Bobism is about having Faith that Bob is all-knowing and all-worthy and we should worship Bob and Bob Jr. for eternity. Because it's fun.
Glory to Bob.
As a believer in the non-fictitious,all-powerful Bob, I share similar beliefs as you.
It is the Bobism faith alone that can account for logic, reason, and rationality.
Why should anyone be rational if the Bob does not exist? Why are men under any obligation to be rational in a materialistic universe?
As a Bobist, I believe all men should be rational. I believe people should believe things on good evidence. I think we are under obligation to use our intellectual tools to glorify Bob, and to learn about this world--we should be consistent. I believe that because Bob requires all men to be rational. I can make sense of the obligation to be rational.
If this world is sound and fury signifying nothing, why must men be rational? Why don't I just live moment by moment and be inconsistent: thinking on thing one time and another thing another time, caring nothing for logic? After all, logic has no place in the material universe--it is an abstract, non-material set of laws. How can laws of logic actually exist in an atheistic universe?
The odd thing about the materialist is this: the materialist who wants to be rational has already departed from his materialism.
If you are a materialist, you have a naturalistic explanation for everything we say and do. What's going on in this gray matter in my cranium is controlled by the laws of physics and chemistry and biology. I don't really think, I'm really like a weed that's growing. Weeds don't think, and neither do I, we're all subject to the laws of physics, I'm just at a more complicated/complex level.
If naturalism is true, there's no such thing as rationality, there's just whatever people end up thinking and doing. Why call men to be rational then?
However, the Bob calls men to be consistent and rational. For the Bobist, I can expect all men to be obligated to be rational. Not so for those who reject Bob.
I think he was talking about Jefferson, Franklin, Madison and others who were Deists.
Who exactly were you talking about?
"Sigh...no, because there is no guarantee that the image you were shown was written to the DVD"
With the current e-voting in California, the voter sees the printed vote and 2D barcode behind glass.
If you are not going to believe that the image shown was actually read from the DVD (after being written), then I assume you would not trust the 2D barcode (which is what would be re-counted, after or along with other backup mechanisms).
I have decided that paper is the most reliable backup/journal mechanism.
I have decided that instead of using DVD media to backup, I am going to print 2d bar codes to paper for every disk operation. Also, I will print the operation in english so I can verify that it did the right thing.
Then if I have a disk crash, I just just scan in each operation in sequence to restore the disk.
Yes, you probably think I am sarcastic and you will tell me that paper lets you verify the vote and allows spot audits.
I would say that the "paper trail" addresses a media/news issue rather than a technical one.
This demand for paper backup is an odd hope that 100 year old cash register technology is the best.
One could accomplish the same thing, by writing the vote, and a human readable JPEG image to DVD, and show the image to the voter for verification.
Or if DVD is too high tech, use microfiche,...
Open source indemnification is FUD that was started by SCO.
As an individual, you will not be sued for using Linux.
If you are a mega company, and you resell Linux, perhaps someone will lodge a "trivial patent" lawsuit or other lawsuit at you.
But that could happen with other software that you re-license. And that's what the lawyers are for. And hopefully patent laws get fixed someday.
Microsoft would love to do the same thing,
and would I guess that they are planning to, but letting Apple pull it first, as Apple can get away with it.
Microsoft: "Apple used DRM music first, so locking everyone into our music player with DRM/Encrypted-Music is no worse".
Microsoft: "Apple used DRM binaries first, so locking everyone into our OS and Applications with DRM/Encrypted-Binaries is no worse".
Compact Flash disks are quiet ... silent.
With unionfs, diskless/read-only-or-write-occasionionally installations are much less work.
http://www.linux-live.org/
1-2 gig compact flash is cheap, as are CF-IDE adapters.
Even fedora can fit in and run from a gig of flash.
My laptop is diskless. Sadly it has a fan...
Myself along with many others are looking to buy a set-top media box that:
- is open: can run MythTV,Linux,Vlc,mplayer,... and no reverse engineering is required to use basic hardware (and hopefully mpeg decoders).
- has DVI output
- has S/PDIF out
- is fanless
Basically an open DVD player with DVI out. A DVD player costs $50, but an "open" DVD player costs $1500? $300-$500 would be ok.
Or basically, a fanless mac mini, fanless MiniPC,...
copyright infringement infringement, according to the intent of the US constitution on the matter,
would be wrong only when it prevents the promotion of science and useful arts.
I can think ways that current copyright and patent laws are preventing the advancement that they were intending to promote.
I also think that distribution of information is positive if the information has value, and can be profitable even without sale as
it acts as free advertisement.
The internet is disruptive, as the printing press was. Some are still trying to hold back progress to keep the old business model.
Some pretend or believe that there is some moral right for a company to milk money from old ideas forever.
This is not so, but our current legal trend is leading to more artificial legal information control, and the thought crimes that result.
I'm pretty sure many previous "rocket scientists" are more nerdy than someone that went on a software to managment track.
yes, one only needs to install the livna-release rpm in order to have yum set up to get the missing packages.
But it would be a good idea for someone to offer Fedora+Livna respin DVD/CD's, that have all the missing packages on the disc.
The base of Open Source software is constantly rising.
A software company can either decide to add value to that base of software,
or fight the tide and compete directly with it.
Will Microsoft, at some point decide to open source a few things, like IE, that have been equalled or surpased by open source?
Or will Microsoft instead try to "compete" with such software via other means: legislative, marketing, proprietary lock in?
Using Firefox as an example of how closed source wins is a little empty headed.