What do you want? It looks like you're trying to make a trade. Do you want to:
Throw that much money at the stock?
Move the decimal point?
Lose your job?
Typically these systems do have limits that are imposed on the trader. However, they're based on the assumption that these people know what they're doing i.e. they're assigned by a supervisor. Sometimes people are just given enough rope...
There are probably a few valid reasons, I think. Here are mine: - Not everything requires the latest hardware. Keeping machines running, that are still fully functional (component wise), keeps them out of landfills. - Sentimentality, I like the Sun SPARC hardware and want to keep using it. Even for trivial tasks like shell accounts for mates and some types of testing. - Diversity is a useful thing of itself, an x86 monoculture can't be good for us long term.
Until the EU decide that Microsoft are wilfully failing to comply and decide to increase the daily fine. Throwing away 5% of your gross sales isn't something any sensible company does in the long term.
For moderation, I'm a start at the end and read back kind of person. The posts near the head are usually already moderated anyway. 0 and -1 are useful for checking - I've been on the end of crappy modding and been 'saved' by someone dredging the sewers:) So I scan through quickly.
Rest of the time, depends on my mood and time of day. At home I don't mind going through the lot to see what's there.
Thank you for the 'new here', don't think I have that before so I feel like I've been initiated properly.:)
I understand the difference. My issue is with the poster who slammed JWSmythe, who had no malintent, rather than post a simple straightforward response like the one you've just posted.
Going kind of off-topic, I agree with you saying this has been discussed ad nauseam here but most of the time the discussion descend into noise and the logically founded arguments get lost. So I feel it's useful to explain reasonably to people their mistakes. So, thanks.
I disagree, JWSmythe gave a fairly clear picture of where he stands against the MPAA. So to throw back "Are you with the MPAA by chance" does make it a for us/against us comment.
The post may have been bad from the perspective of understanding the differences between 'intellectual property' versus physical property in the context of 'theft'. "No, it's not. It's copyright infringement. Nice try." was the closest to a useful response. However, the overriding tone of the post was hostile.
The poster didn't come across as a troll, he set out his beliefs on the subject. Rather than being shown, constructively, where he made mistakes he got slammed down.
No I just randomly pecked out a response, happened to hit your post to reply to.
To say that there was nothing much compelling him to support those people ignores two things: - On many an open source project like this there isn't anyone else to do the support. If you don't do the support and people start rubbishing your project as people are wont to do (look at how often it happens here on/.) it can end up a failure. - This is a committed guy who has obviously been in the game for a long time. Personal and Professional pride prevent him from doing a half-arsed job, as he would view it.
You were being dismissive because this is a case of burnout and not conceit on his part. As the only committed person to the project things are going to get hairy when he leaves. It's a shame that the people now pledging support couldn't have stepped up earlier.
If you're going to disagree with him, could you at least make an effort at a reasoned argument? Your one-liners aren't going to win any people over. The "Are you with the MPAA by chance" is tired if-you're-not-with-us-you're-against-us-rhetoric that doesn't advance the cause of sharing.
He wasn't tired of developing it, he was tired of supporting people who expected him to answer everything little thing they couldn't be arsed lookig up. I get the impression he would have been happy enough concentrating on the development, possibly with some assistance. Calling him a whiner is overly dismissive.
I thought the/. response should be Well, it's Open Source so if you want Firefox to have oral pleasuring then do it yourself!:)
Alternatively we could go through the list: In Soviet Russia you give Firefox oral pleasure In South Korea, only old people use Firefox for oral pleasure etc.
Guess I'll just sit back and wait for the obligatory Micro$oft & Internet Explorer sucks/blows:)
Not understanding the full ramifications worries me a bit - he's 23. He's been around long enough to have a basic understanding. That said, it's not worth 'hanging' someone of his age over a civil issue.
Microsoft stopping the sale of products and support of products won't cause things to immediately grind to a halt. So the EU don't have to react that quickly if MS ever did it.
You missed out on politics in your analysis. When the EU wanted to move people away from agriculture in Europe they threw money at people to either; not farm their land or to reduce their output. Member states could give tax credits and various other types of assistance to those who moved to non-Microsoft solutions. Then you lash out at the US so that Microsoft face pressure on their home front. Start using trade sanctions against other US companies or place tariffs on MS products (you just come up with a tariff that you know will only affect them), it's a regular tactic among the trading blocs.
Then you also have the US companies who have operations in Europe who realise that MS is screwing them as well as the EU and they start lobbying in the US. All gets very messy.
Slashdot Mirror
Could you outline what you mean, in more detail, in relation to their press release and earlier filings?
I wish I still had my mod points :)
It looks like you're trying to make a trade. Do you want to:
Typically these systems do have limits that are imposed on the trader. However, they're based on the assumption that these people know what they're doing i.e. they're assigned by a supervisor. Sometimes people are just given enough rope
I had to ditch a domain because it's just been over-run. In my case, my personal account seemed to bear the brunt of it.
There are probably a few valid reasons, I think. Here are mine:
- Not everything requires the latest hardware. Keeping machines running, that are still fully functional (component wise), keeps them out of landfills.
- Sentimentality, I like the Sun SPARC hardware and want to keep using it. Even for trivial tasks like shell accounts for mates and some types of testing.
- Diversity is a useful thing of itself, an x86 monoculture can't be good for us long term.
Until the EU decide that Microsoft are wilfully failing to comply and decide to increase the daily fine. Throwing away 5% of your gross sales isn't something any sensible company does in the long term.
Can't say I've ever used that service, maybe it's because they play the same shite over and over so it's not needed :) Power fecking 98 and their ilk.
Kind of like this old joke
For moderation, I'm a start at the end and read back kind of person. The posts near the head are usually already moderated anyway. 0 and -1 are useful for checking - I've been on the end of crappy modding and been 'saved' by someone dredging the sewers :) So I scan through quickly.
Rest of the time, depends on my mood and time of day. At home I don't mind going through the lot to see what's there.
The justification was weak, I reckon anyway. However, I seem to be pretty alone on that.
I like your one though, made me laugh. It's not as bad as you think it makes a good point. Maybe we'll see it getting more usage around here.
Thank you for the 'new here', don't think I have that before so I feel like I've been initiated properly. :)
I understand the difference. My issue is with the poster who slammed JWSmythe, who had no malintent, rather than post a simple straightforward response like the one you've just posted.
Going kind of off-topic, I agree with you saying this has been discussed ad nauseam here but most of the time the discussion descend into noise and the logically founded arguments get lost. So I feel it's useful to explain reasonably to people their mistakes. So, thanks.
I disagree, JWSmythe gave a fairly clear picture of where he stands against the MPAA. So to throw back "Are you with the MPAA by chance" does make it a for us/against us comment.
The post may have been bad from the perspective of understanding the differences between 'intellectual property' versus physical property in the context of 'theft'. "No, it's not. It's copyright infringement. Nice try." was the closest to a useful response. However, the overriding tone of the post was hostile.
The poster didn't come across as a troll, he set out his beliefs on the subject. Rather than being shown, constructively, where he made mistakes he got slammed down.
What he pointed out, he didn't justify. If you can't justify your assertion then it's not particularly relevant.
No I just randomly pecked out a response, happened to hit your post to reply to.
/.) it can end up a failure.
To say that there was nothing much compelling him to support those people ignores two things:
- On many an open source project like this there isn't anyone else to do the support. If you don't do the support and people start rubbishing your project as people are wont to do (look at how often it happens here on
- This is a committed guy who has obviously been in the game for a long time. Personal and Professional pride prevent him from doing a half-arsed job, as he would view it.
You were being dismissive because this is a case of burnout and not conceit on his part. As the only committed person to the project things are going to get hairy when he leaves. It's a shame that the people now pledging support couldn't have stepped up earlier.
If you're going to disagree with him, could you at least make an effort at a reasoned argument? Your one-liners aren't going to win any people over. The "Are you with the MPAA by chance" is tired if-you're-not-with-us-you're-against-us-rhetoric that doesn't advance the cause of sharing.
He wasn't tired of developing it, he was tired of supporting people who expected him to answer everything little thing they couldn't be arsed lookig up. I get the impression he would have been happy enough concentrating on the development, possibly with some assistance. Calling him a whiner is overly dismissive.
Fuck, that was lame, even by /. standards; timefoil pants
I thought the /. response should be :)
:)
Well, it's Open Source so if you want Firefox to have oral pleasuring then do it yourself!
Alternatively we could go through the list:
In Soviet Russia you give Firefox oral pleasure
In South Korea, only old people use Firefox for oral pleasure etc.
Guess I'll just sit back and wait for the obligatory Micro$oft & Internet Explorer sucks/blows
Run his post by those lawyers and let us know what they thought of it.
His poor communication skills and inability to distinguish between copyright and trademark lead me, like others, to doubt his credentials.
Uh... somebody better tell IBM ... Novell ... Red Hat .... Good chunks of Apple ...
Ah yes, I'd forgotten about IBM, Novell and Apple as being among those new venture capital funded startups. Thanks for pointing them out.
Because that's what Apple users love to say ... :)
Not understanding the full ramifications worries me a bit - he's 23. He's been around long enough to have a basic understanding. That said, it's not worth 'hanging' someone of his age over a civil issue.
University of Maine, I believe.
There's a book you should read on this, might help put the parent's comments into context.
Microsoft stopping the sale of products and support of products won't cause things to immediately grind to a halt. So the EU don't have to react that quickly if MS ever did it.
You missed out on politics in your analysis. When the EU wanted to move people away from agriculture in Europe they threw money at people to either; not farm their land or to reduce their output. Member states could give tax credits and various other types of assistance to those who moved to non-Microsoft solutions. Then you lash out at the US so that Microsoft face pressure on their home front. Start using trade sanctions against other US companies or place tariffs on MS products (you just come up with a tariff that you know will only affect them), it's a regular tactic among the trading blocs.
Then you also have the US companies who have operations in Europe who realise that MS is screwing them as well as the EU and they start lobbying in the US. All gets very messy.