ok wait now...huge directories...like...huge directories of mp3s? isn't that the stuff "beginners" have, all their mp3s lumped into one place? So it's gonna barf for the new users, so maybe that's not so great, and if it's barfing, is it really super solid? You've got me confused!
I think he meant 2 different applications.. the Ximian desktop is good for newbies; however, Nautalis (the file manager) likes to barf on huge directories... I'm not saying that Nautalis barfs or doesn't, just repeating the Taco.. in fact, I've never had nautalis barf at all (v1.0) but it does seem to take a long time somtimes
There are nutjobs in every movement; just because a cause has some idiots that support it doesn't per se invalidate that cause.
So you are saying that just because the GOP is right wing don't give up hope, there may be some sane right wingers out there?:).. My point was that the original poster was obviously an idiot (your term), to accuse the left wingers of smear tatics after the craziness of the right wing over the past 8 years, well.. you would have to be a blind fool to make that claim.. or at least a troll..:)
It's no coincidence that the Left always resorts to personal attacks, smear tactics, and "digging up dirt" on their political adversaries. They can't win any other way.
Where have YOU been the last 8 years?.. Jeez man.. talk about blind to the facts.. you scare me.. kill any abortion doctors lately?
You may have no clue about Linux, but don't presume we have no clue about Win2k. Your comment is simply assinine. USB doensn't "just work" the way you claim it does under NT5
Wrong!.. I'm a total linux freak but the last 5 USB devices I pluged into my Win2k box 'just worked'.. and same for my WinME and Win98 machines.. never had any problems with it at all...
Does NT5 support Logitech USB webcams yet?
The end user doesn't care.. they look at a webpage (shop.msn.com or something along those lines) get a review for the top 10 web cams and go purchase the one they decide on.. if they bring it home and it doesn't work, guess what they do.. they take it right back to Best Buy and get a different one..
You falsely assert that just because novices don't want to fiddle with the registry that suddenly, magically they are insulated from any issues that arise from it being implemented in their OS.
The novice user doesn't know the registry exists.. if ever a problem occurs with the registry they either call an expert for help, or in the case that they can't find free help they take their computer to a repair shop. The average user is COMPLETELY insulated from the issues of HOW the OS is implimented.. they may be afflicted with the problems, but they just call tech support to take the computer to a repair shop or in some cases turn it off and don't use that part of it anymore (which happens much more than it should). They have no desire to know WHY it broke, they just want it fixed..
The average user will NEVER be able to use linux in it's current state.. a majority of the people feel that when you open the command prompt in windows that you are actually opening a window to the processor and are speaking in a magical machine language. The average user has no care for a powerfull OS, it doesn't them no good at all.. The average user wants a simple tool to complete the tasks they have planned for the the device.
I'm one of the most die hard linux zealots you will ever meet.. I, however, have faced the reality that unless something is done to make Linux MUCH simpler for the layperson (i.e. NO command line, NO editing of flat files, NO Compiling or binary compatability issues, and NO splintering of the UI (Gnome vs KDE is the worse linux problem to date, and none of the distributions standardizing will be the death of Linux)) that Linux will never be accepted to the mainstream.. it just won't happen... people look for ease, not power.. no one wants to HAVE to be an expert to use a tool..
Hmm.. I would think that we would see faster PCI or the new and improved PCI-X (nice!) in home PC's before we saw the PCI Bus replaced. Faster PCI and PCI-X have the wonderfull ability to be backwards compatable. Not to mention that PCI-X is 133 Mhz x 64 bits (well, sorta.. the more 'connectors' you have the slower the bus (not devices, but connectors, if you don't believe me go read the spec!)) which is plenty fast enough to run all the new wonderfully fast devices coming out (can you say Gigabit ether). Of course, 10 Gigabit ether is on the horizon (everyone expects 4th QR this year.. I imagine 2nd QR next year is when it will REALLY be out!:)) so perhaps a faster bus will be needed. Then again, isn't that what infiniband is all about? A faster bus than PCI that can also be run at a greater distance (PCI can only have track lengths of up to 2 inches according to the spec). Imagine having a FAST bus that you can run inside your machine and also run to remote devices!! Of course I slept through most of the infiniband conferences I attended, so I might be wrong about how wonderfull it is (hey, I'm a software guy.. I leave hardware up to you REAL geeks!:)).
You're absolutely right. I was home schooled, and do you see me out socializing? Three of my best friends are getting married, all I care to do is put money into my car and computer.
Heh.. I went to public schools and suffer from the same afflictions.. perhaps it's because we are both geeks? (We do read slashdot after-all) I've met many home schooled people that are the extremely outgoing and personable. In fact the most outgoing person I know was home schooled. Perhaps it's a difference in personalities rather than where one was schooled? Of course now we are getting into the nature vs nurture argument!
I believe he is a troll because he didn't express a valid logical argument or offer any data to support his case. He only stated (paraphrased) "people are complex, therefore god must exist". I agree that an intelligent person (such as yourself) can take the statement, seed it with facts and make a very plausible and somewhat enjoyable debate out of it; however, that doesn't mean that Christian Soldier wasn't a troll in the first place. This leads us to wonder if trolls aren't necessarily bad, i.e. they almost always inadvertantly spark a thread that is very informative and fun to read. Of course this may not be inadvertant.
Heh.. didn't mean to sound over zealous, so I hope I didn't come off that way. I actually think this is a fun and enlightening argument to have. I am going to take a minute to disagree tho!
I belive I was talking about computer networks, not buildings?
Well, I was talking about both buildings and computers, due to the fact that they are both forms of private property and are/should be governed by the same rules. One is not allowed into my private building, and one is not allowed into my private network, despite the fact that both are connected to the public world (either through an internet connection or through a door). The state of the door/connection is irrelevant; locked or not you are still not invited in, and are a criminal if you do come in.
When you run a server on a computer connected to a network, we can only assume that it is because you wish to make some services or data available to users of other computers.
This is so wrong that it frightens me. Just because I own a building of some form doesn't mean that people should assume that I am a buisiness and just wander in. Regardless if I leave my door locked or not private property is ALWAYS private property. Just because my computer is connected to a network doesn't mean that you are invited to come inside. In fact, seeing that the computer is private property, you are expressly forbidden to come inside unless otherwise invited. Every computer I own is connected to a public network and you are not invited to enter any one of them. I have no intention of making "services of data available to users of other computers". My computers are connected to the internet to allow me a gateway into the internet, not to allow other people a connection to me.
These guys are coding in languages closer to assembler, not pearl.
Typically we only write enough in assembly to get us to a point where we can write the rest of the code in C. The embedded market isn't what it used to be. Everything is bigger and faster and better and so forth. Any embedded system that is running an OS is probably pretty much mostly done in C or C++ (I perfer C myself!:)).
im not a guru either (though i have compiled my own kernel:). But i dont think you are correct: You dont have to recompile your kernel whenever you change e.g. you NIC IP.
One option "turn additional security on" and then you compile your kernel. Afterwards you configure it with some utils or through/proc..
Only my 0.02 Euros..
Well.. I think you are missing the point.. you are assuming there is already some security code that is written and reads a flat file for config info. The kernel guys are saying they are going to add hooks for a loadable module for security. i.e. No security exists.. you write the code.. you compile the module.. you tell the kernel to load the module and boom.. you now are testing your security module. Found a bug? Thats fine tell the kernel to unload the module, fix the bug.. recompile the module.. tell the kernel to reload the module. If the security was staticly in the kernel you would have to fix the kernel itself, rebuild the entire kernel, and reboot. It's my opinion that we want to move more in the direction of dynamically loadable kernel modules, and stay far away from statically linking new stuff into the kernel. Idealy everything but the REAL basics should be dynamically loadable modules, and only the things that are required to be a static part of the kernel be there.
If you re read the article MS clearly states that they want to do this in order to push their own proprietary CODEC. They make mention of the licensing one time in the article, only to say they will be saving $2.50 per copy of XP (I'll pay an extra $2.50 for full encoding.. how about you?). They do clearly state their intention is to promote their own proprietary CODEC, and attempt to encorage people to use the MS CODEC over MP3. It's a good plan, then everyone who pirates music will have to pay royalties to MS.
I really don't think that this is going to have a big effect on music piracy here -- I think it will let Microsoft say they tried.
Everyone has this SO wrong that it scares me how well M$ does their thing. This has absolutely nothing to do with stoping piracy. MS is trying to kill MP3. Go re-read the article (the full article in the second link). M$ is saying they are hoping that by making MP3's recorded on MediaPlayer sound like crap, that people will switch to M$'s proprietary CODEC. They don't care if people pirate.. they want to ensure that if people pirate they must use Windoze to listen to the music. There is a great quote down at the bottom of the article '"We think at the end of the day, consumers don't really care what format they [record] in," said Dave Fester, a general manager in Microsoft's Digital Media Division' and another quote 'But for new content that users might want to create, he says there "are clear advantages" to not using MP3.' The best part is that it will work.. no one will go download a new media ripper, they will just switch to whatever media format sounds good in windows when they rip it. People are stupid and lazy (no offense!:)) and they will not spend the time to download something new to rip their media with, they will just use whatever M$ supplies. After all, when it comes down to it, the average Joe doesn't care about supporting MP3's, he just wants to listen to free music over the internet.
If I could flip a switch and activate a magical device that would filter out such an overly loud rendition of the Consitution, such an action should no longer be used as an excuse to ignore the 1st Amendment.
Ahh.. but he made a mistake in his analogy. This is more like if I were to come into your house and shout the Constitution through a bull horn at 3 AM (or any time for that matter), which is not covered under the 1st Admendment. This was clearly a private web page
It is completely within my right as a property owner (either a private individual or a private orgainization) to require a person leave my property, and never return, even if the person is initially invited to my property. In other words, if I invite you to my dinner party at my house, I can require you to leave and never return for any reason I desire, even if my dinner party is a 'public' event, i.e. I posted signs on every telephone pole in the county. The same is true for a business, just because their doors are not gaurded (read locked) doesn't mean that they can't require you to leave the premises at any time. A web page is a private institution and in no way is in the public domain.
A few responses up a person stated that anyone who opens port 80 on their web server is 'in the public domain', again this is not true in any way. A business is not required to lock it's doors to still be a private buisiness, it can still require you to leave at any time if the buisness does not agree with what you are saying. They cannot however, force you to be quiet about your beliefs. If you want to open up shop next door and rant about your beliefs on your own private property, that is perfectly legal.
This is probably more of a Good Thing (tm) for BSD than a Bad Thing. The Wind Rivers has always been a great company to deal with (I have worked quite a bit with vxWorks) and they will be able to scrounge up interest in BSD (which is much needed). As far as I understand vxWorks is basically the industry leader in RTOS's, so it's a company that will be around for quite awhile and gives BSD some security.
Please show some form of proof.. a link.. at least a statistic.. At bare minimum why don't you tell us how many Russians vs how Many Americans have died in flight? Last I've heard it's 4 Russians vs 7 Americans have died in flight.
I think the slashdot worthy part is in the article.. namely the fact that they were raided by the secret service and put out of buisiness but there were no arrests made and no proof that the buisness had done anything wrong.
They should just treat Tito the same as any other russian astronaut. They shouldn't care how russia picks their people to go into space, either through some testing program, or large amounts of cash or by seeing who can run furthest through siberia naked. It's russian's space program and they should be able to do what they want. The ISS is a joint venture but the US isn't liable for who russia brings into space. I personally think it's about damn time to bring commericialism into space, this is exactly what NASA needs, to sparc up some interest amongst the civilians again.
Hmm.. I think I have a good idea.. why don't we all go read WHAT the patents are for and decide if the patents are trival.. everyone is arguing if making a fan is hard without any knowledge of what the patent is.. *shrug*.. just a suggestion but it seems to make sense to me!
Actually that would be the absolute best way to do it. If you think about it, the "encryption" technique they are using can't be that secure, so the FBI/CIA/NSA whoever cracks it then np.. they can decode the mail. If it is using the hash of the message to lookup the message in a database the FBI/CIA/NSA whoever has to use spammimic's application to decode the messages. So spammimic just has to sit around and look for millions of web hits from some strange address and then boom.. we know for a fact that they are reading our mails.. *shrug*..
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I think he meant 2 different applications.. the Ximian desktop is good for newbies; however, Nautalis (the file manager) likes to barf on huge directories... I'm not saying that Nautalis barfs or doesn't, just repeating the Taco.. in fact, I've never had nautalis barf at all (v1.0) but it does seem to take a long time somtimes
A lousy drummer.. :)
So you are saying that just because the GOP is right wing don't give up hope, there may be some sane right wingers out there? :).. My point was that the original poster was obviously an idiot (your term), to accuse the left wingers of smear tatics after the craziness of the right wing over the past 8 years, well.. you would have to be a blind fool to make that claim.. or at least a troll.. :)
Where have YOU been the last 8 years?.. Jeez man.. talk about blind to the facts.. you scare me.. kill any abortion doctors lately?
Yeah.. I can just see me trying to get my wife to buy this piece of technology. She would freak if her house changed color without her permission! :)
Wrong!.. I'm a total linux freak but the last 5 USB devices I pluged into my Win2k box 'just worked'.. and same for my WinME and Win98 machines.. never had any problems with it at all...
Does NT5 support Logitech USB webcams yet?The end user doesn't care.. they look at a webpage (shop.msn.com or something along those lines) get a review for the top 10 web cams and go purchase the one they decide on.. if they bring it home and it doesn't work, guess what they do.. they take it right back to Best Buy and get a different one..
You falsely assert that just because novices don't want to fiddle with the registry that suddenly, magically they are insulated from any issues that arise from it being implemented in their OS.
The novice user doesn't know the registry exists.. if ever a problem occurs with the registry they either call an expert for help, or in the case that they can't find free help they take their computer to a repair shop. The average user is COMPLETELY insulated from the issues of HOW the OS is implimented.. they may be afflicted with the problems, but they just call tech support to take the computer to a repair shop or in some cases turn it off and don't use that part of it anymore (which happens much more than it should). They have no desire to know WHY it broke, they just want it fixed..
The average user will NEVER be able to use linux in it's current state.. a majority of the people feel that when you open the command prompt in windows that you are actually opening a window to the processor and are speaking in a magical machine language. The average user has no care for a powerfull OS, it doesn't them no good at all.. The average user wants a simple tool to complete the tasks they have planned for the the device.
I'm one of the most die hard linux zealots you will ever meet.. I, however, have faced the reality that unless something is done to make Linux MUCH simpler for the layperson (i.e. NO command line, NO editing of flat files, NO Compiling or binary compatability issues, and NO splintering of the UI (Gnome vs KDE is the worse linux problem to date, and none of the distributions standardizing will be the death of Linux)) that Linux will never be accepted to the mainstream.. it just won't happen... people look for ease, not power.. no one wants to HAVE to be an expert to use a tool..
Heh.. david bowie as andy warhol!.. :).. good movie! :)
Hmm.. I would think that we would see faster PCI or the new and improved PCI-X (nice!) in home PC's before we saw the PCI Bus replaced. Faster PCI and PCI-X have the wonderfull ability to be backwards compatable. Not to mention that PCI-X is 133 Mhz x 64 bits (well, sorta.. the more 'connectors' you have the slower the bus (not devices, but connectors, if you don't believe me go read the spec!)) which is plenty fast enough to run all the new wonderfully fast devices coming out (can you say Gigabit ether). Of course, 10 Gigabit ether is on the horizon (everyone expects 4th QR this year.. I imagine 2nd QR next year is when it will REALLY be out! :)) so perhaps a faster bus will be needed. Then again, isn't that what infiniband is all about? A faster bus than PCI that can also be run at a greater distance (PCI can only have track lengths of up to 2 inches according to the spec). Imagine having a FAST bus that you can run inside your machine and also run to remote devices!! Of course I slept through most of the infiniband conferences I attended, so I might be wrong about how wonderfull it is (hey, I'm a software guy.. I leave hardware up to you REAL geeks! :)).
Heh.. I went to public schools and suffer from the same afflictions.. perhaps it's because we are both geeks? (We do read slashdot after-all) I've met many home schooled people that are the extremely outgoing and personable. In fact the most outgoing person I know was home schooled. Perhaps it's a difference in personalities rather than where one was schooled? Of course now we are getting into the nature vs nurture argument!
I believe he is a troll because he didn't express a valid logical argument or offer any data to support his case. He only stated (paraphrased) "people are complex, therefore god must exist". I agree that an intelligent person (such as yourself) can take the statement, seed it with facts and make a very plausible and somewhat enjoyable debate out of it; however, that doesn't mean that Christian Soldier wasn't a troll in the first place. This leads us to wonder if trolls aren't necessarily bad, i.e. they almost always inadvertantly spark a thread that is very informative and fun to read. Of course this may not be inadvertant.
I belive I was talking about computer networks, not buildings?
Well, I was talking about both buildings and computers, due to the fact that they are both forms of private property and are/should be governed by the same rules. One is not allowed into my private building, and one is not allowed into my private network, despite the fact that both are connected to the public world (either through an internet connection or through a door). The state of the door/connection is irrelevant; locked or not you are still not invited in, and are a criminal if you do come in.
Hey, where did that quote come from?.. (thx!)
This is so wrong that it frightens me. Just because I own a building of some form doesn't mean that people should assume that I am a buisiness and just wander in. Regardless if I leave my door locked or not private property is ALWAYS private property. Just because my computer is connected to a network doesn't mean that you are invited to come inside. In fact, seeing that the computer is private property, you are expressly forbidden to come inside unless otherwise invited. Every computer I own is connected to a public network and you are not invited to enter any one of them. I have no intention of making "services of data available to users of other computers". My computers are connected to the internet to allow me a gateway into the internet, not to allow other people a connection to me.
Typically we only write enough in assembly to get us to a point where we can write the rest of the code in C. The embedded market isn't what it used to be. Everything is bigger and faster and better and so forth. Any embedded system that is running an OS is probably pretty much mostly done in C or C++ (I perfer C myself! :)).
Well.. I think you are missing the point.. you are assuming there is already some security code that is written and reads a flat file for config info. The kernel guys are saying they are going to add hooks for a loadable module for security. i.e. No security exists.. you write the code.. you compile the module.. you tell the kernel to load the module and boom.. you now are testing your security module. Found a bug? Thats fine tell the kernel to unload the module, fix the bug.. recompile the module.. tell the kernel to reload the module. If the security was staticly in the kernel you would have to fix the kernel itself, rebuild the entire kernel, and reboot. It's my opinion that we want to move more in the direction of dynamically loadable kernel modules, and stay far away from statically linking new stuff into the kernel. Idealy everything but the REAL basics should be dynamically loadable modules, and only the things that are required to be a static part of the kernel be there.
If you re read the article MS clearly states that they want to do this in order to push their own proprietary CODEC. They make mention of the licensing one time in the article, only to say they will be saving $2.50 per copy of XP (I'll pay an extra $2.50 for full encoding.. how about you?). They do clearly state their intention is to promote their own proprietary CODEC, and attempt to encorage people to use the MS CODEC over MP3. It's a good plan, then everyone who pirates music will have to pay royalties to MS.
Everyone has this SO wrong that it scares me how well M$ does their thing. This has absolutely nothing to do with stoping piracy. MS is trying to kill MP3. Go re-read the article (the full article in the second link). M$ is saying they are hoping that by making MP3's recorded on MediaPlayer sound like crap, that people will switch to M$'s proprietary CODEC. They don't care if people pirate.. they want to ensure that if people pirate they must use Windoze to listen to the music. There is a great quote down at the bottom of the article '"We think at the end of the day, consumers don't really care what format they [record] in," said Dave Fester, a general manager in Microsoft's Digital Media Division' and another quote 'But for new content that users might want to create, he says there "are clear advantages" to not using MP3.' The best part is that it will work.. no one will go download a new media ripper, they will just switch to whatever media format sounds good in windows when they rip it. People are stupid and lazy (no offense! :)) and they will not spend the time to download something new to rip their media with, they will just use whatever M$ supplies. After all, when it comes down to it, the average Joe doesn't care about supporting MP3's, he just wants to listen to free music over the internet.
Ahh.. but he made a mistake in his analogy. This is more like if I were to come into your house and shout the Constitution through a bull horn at 3 AM (or any time for that matter), which is not covered under the 1st Admendment. This was clearly a private web page
It is completely within my right as a property owner (either a private individual or a private orgainization) to require a person leave my property, and never return, even if the person is initially invited to my property. In other words, if I invite you to my dinner party at my house, I can require you to leave and never return for any reason I desire, even if my dinner party is a 'public' event, i.e. I posted signs on every telephone pole in the county. The same is true for a business, just because their doors are not gaurded (read locked) doesn't mean that they can't require you to leave the premises at any time. A web page is a private institution and in no way is in the public domain.
A few responses up a person stated that anyone who opens port 80 on their web server is 'in the public domain', again this is not true in any way. A business is not required to lock it's doors to still be a private buisiness, it can still require you to leave at any time if the buisness does not agree with what you are saying. They cannot however, force you to be quiet about your beliefs. If you want to open up shop next door and rant about your beliefs on your own private property, that is perfectly legal.
This is probably more of a Good Thing (tm) for BSD than a Bad Thing. The Wind Rivers has always been a great company to deal with (I have worked quite a bit with vxWorks) and they will be able to scrounge up interest in BSD (which is much needed). As far as I understand vxWorks is basically the industry leader in RTOS's, so it's a company that will be around for quite awhile and gives BSD some security.
Please show some form of proof.. a link.. at least a statistic.. At bare minimum why don't you tell us how many Russians vs how Many Americans have died in flight? Last I've heard it's 4 Russians vs 7 Americans have died in flight.
I think the slashdot worthy part is in the article.. namely the fact that they were raided by the secret service and put out of buisiness but there were no arrests made and no proof that the buisness had done anything wrong.
Uhmm.. last I read he was ticked because when he showed up for the NASA training they wouldn't let him through the gate.
They should just treat Tito the same as any other russian astronaut. They shouldn't care how russia picks their people to go into space, either through some testing program, or large amounts of cash or by seeing who can run furthest through siberia naked. It's russian's space program and they should be able to do what they want. The ISS is a joint venture but the US isn't liable for who russia brings into space. I personally think it's about damn time to bring commericialism into space, this is exactly what NASA needs, to sparc up some interest amongst the civilians again.
Hmm.. I think I have a good idea.. why don't we all go read WHAT the patents are for and decide if the patents are trival.. everyone is arguing if making a fan is hard without any knowledge of what the patent is.. *shrug*.. just a suggestion but it seems to make sense to me!
Actually that would be the absolute best way to do it. If you think about it, the "encryption" technique they are using can't be that secure, so the FBI/CIA/NSA whoever cracks it then np.. they can decode the mail. If it is using the hash of the message to lookup the message in a database the FBI/CIA/NSA whoever has to use spammimic's application to decode the messages. So spammimic just has to sit around and look for millions of web hits from some strange address and then boom.. we know for a fact that they are reading our mails.. *shrug*..