For more irony, I believe Intel designs its processors on PowerPC based AIX boxen.
I could be wrong though.
I'm 99% sure you are wrong. One funny thing I saw at Intel was the 'Sun Lab' full of Sparc 5's and 10's for people to use (I never got access to the lab, but I could see it through a window). All of their design is on Wintel boxes last I checked. Of course I've been out of the loop a while now!
Mundie's remarks have definitely backfired. Mundie got to speak to one small room of people, and the rebuttals have been seen everywhere
Uhmm.. you underestimate the power of the Dark Side. Mundie spoke to one small room and look how well we have distributed his message. Not to mention that open source advocates look like madmen in the eyes of the CTO's (how can anyone make money off of 'free' software? THEY MUST BE CRAZY!). Mundie got the exact response he wanted. It's called a troll and we (open source advocates) fell for it. We highly publicized Mundies rants and we thought people were listening when we said 'look how crazy he is'. Instead Joe (you know, average Joe) will walk away thinking that Microsoft must be right, after all, look at all that pretty glowing stuff in their coffers (read MONEY).
And what about the 65mph limits on I-94 in WI or the 70mph limits on I-65 in TN? IIRC, some states like TX have laws which state that you can go any speed on certain highways as long as there is no other traffic on the road during the day.
I think someone was pulling your leg. I've spent many an hour on Texas Highways and never saw anything that remotely sounds like this. I am willing to doubt that you would ever find a texas highway without other traffic on it, if nothing else there will be tons of trucks on almost every Texas Highway.
Intel sues AMD for circumventing their ability to make money from selling x86 processors. Microsoft sues Linus T. for circumventing their licensing agreements designed to protect their OS sales... Marvel sues Penny Arcade for providing free comics that take away from their sales... Ford sues feet for providing free transportation... Phillips sues the sun for providing free light and disrupting their lightbulb sales... Et cetera Et cetera Etc...
Acutally, it's much much much worse than this.. it would be more like: Intel sues ME for using AMD, Microsoft Sues YOU for using Linux, Marvel sues Fargo for reading Penny Arcade instead of Marvel comics, etc. These guys aren't suing the competition, they are suing a customer because the customer choose the competition.. It's truely frightening...
Intel sues AMD for circumventing their ability to make money from selling x86 processors. Microsoft sues Linus T. for circumventing their licensing agreements designed to protect their OS sales... Marvel sues Penny Arcade for providing free comics that take away from their sales... Ford sues feet for providing free transportation... Phillips sues the sun for providing free light and disrupting their lightbulb sales... Et cetera Et cetera Etc...
Acutally, it's much much much worse than this.. it would be more like: Intel sues ME for using AMD, Microsoft Sues YOU for using Linux, Marvel sues Fargo for reading Penny Arcade instead of Marvel comics, etc. These guys aren't suing the competition, they are suing a customer because the customer choose the competition.. It's truely frightening...
But its not just application providers who will like this. As I said, big enterprises will love this. Its much easier for a big company to pay $15/month for 10,000 machines than 5,000,000 up front for software. Plus, lets say the software sucks, and is buggy (real possibility) and they want out. Much easier to get out since they havent paid that $5M chunk.
Hmm.. I agree with your point, but as I understand the new MS Scheme isn't a pay by month type system, but more of a pay the $5M up front, then pay another $5M in three years.
where did you get your info from? There have been very sparse documentation of Right Whales at all, at least in the North Pacific. Their estimated world wide population is critically low, about 100-200(!) and i haven't heard of any Right Whale takes by boats. i am a marine biologist in Alaska. If you have seen one, send photos!
Okay, I don't know where he got his info from, but I did see a discovery program discussing the Right Whale and it's steady decline in population along East coast of the US due to collisions with ships. The Right Whale was named by whalers because it was the 'Right' whale to harpoon (good huntin' I believe). Now of course you want me to support my claims so I did a quick search on google and found several Right Whale pages, every page I read (10 or so) listed collisions with ships as the leading threat to Right Whales. I'm only going to include one link, but feel free to search for yourself. Ohh.. and the estimated world wide population appears to be around 1000 with 350 in the Northwest Alantic (unfortunately this is the most endangered of all the great whales). FYI: It is estimated that we will only have this type of whale for another 190 years.
Probably why he's using the desert in eastern Oregon. That covers more than half the state... if he crashes he'll create a big dust cloud. that's it.
HEY!, those of us in western Oregon are a little worried, of course I'm hoping that he'll let an audience attend... I'd love to watch this guy succeed or blow himself up.. I mean, it's the chance of a lifetime to actually get to view a darwin award in the making!
great... how many ways do we need of sending "beep"?
I remember that I used to have this app for an 8088 that played the complete tonal "William Tell Overture" out of the PC speaker... I wonder what happened to it?
Well sir, if you were to read the article you would find that this has nothing to do with sending a beep, but if you had an mp3 version of the william tell overture you could send that right over your pc speaker.. his device driver is used to play wav's and mp3's over the pc speaker, not just beeping...
Well.. as long as it's not affiliated with the XFL I guess it will be okay! Seriously, how does this file system compare to ext3? Should I just wait?:)
Personally, I don't think a metal platform built by the UK government in the Second World War can NOT be the property of the UK, or be an independant nation-state...but that's not the issue at hand.
Acutally it was abandoned, hence Sealand was able to claim the structure. If anything is abandoned in international waters, it can be claimed by any nation.
It's in the Sealand History under the Initial Challenge to Sealand's Sovereignty heading. Read all about it!:) There is also information about Sealands first war on that page.. very interesting read!
International waters or not, ocean platforms belong to the organization (or, in this case, military) that built them.
This is VERY correct; however, you seem to have forgotten a very important point, your quote should read: International waters or not, ocean platforms belong to the organization (or, in this case, military) that built them, until they abandon them., Which is exact what happened, that is how Sealand was able to claim the land!
The only reason they're still around is that it has yet to be worth the effort to send a platoon of Royal Marines out there to take back the property of the UK government.
You should consider researching what you say. The UK government ruled that that the fortress is not part of the UK and is in international waters.. hence.. it's not UK property!
Not to be a stickler for facts or anything, but the movie premiered in 1968. I'm thinking it was written before that.
Okay, I was off by a decade, my point still stands, fact hounding or not, I'm willing to bet that optical storage media was at least a theory at the time that Clarke wrote 2001..
C'mon SI, you know that's because they couldn't use reel to reel tapes as a futuristic storage medium. Do you think the creators of the Superman movie were also visionaries?
I'm fairly certain that you could call Auther C. Clarke a visionary and get away with it. I've read many papers written by him about his series of books (ranging from 2001-3001) and he always tries to accurately portray the future. Holographic storage medium is not a new idea, even in the late 1970's (when the movie was written) the idea of optically storing large amounts of data was probably already discussed in theory. Mr. Clarke loves to read papers discussing some distant theory of technology and then write about them in his book. Read 3001 for some really fine examples of this.
Of course, one could also take the opinion that Sci-Fi pushes the future, i.e. these guys saw 2001 and decided to make it a reality.
I am confused as to how this is different from previous free music sharing? Why can't a live concert (not ripped from a commercial CD) be spread on the net (if the band is allowing it)?
This is quite different in the fact that it gives you legal protection. Previously you were either releasing your work into the public domain (anyone could change or take credit for it, and you had no legal recourse) or you just were choosing not to enforce your copyright (so the people distributing were breaking the law, even if you weren't going to prosecute). This gives you several rights, the most important one is that anyone can distribute as long as they give the original author credit (which is very important with an artform like music, it would bite to hear your song later and have someone else claiming they wrote/performed it).
Hey Fearsome, you are an excellent troll. Why don't you start to make it a challenge for yourself and spell out the word Troll using the first letter of every sentence or something along those lines.. make it an art form..:)
Again, I said I agreed with this. However, stability of the WM isn't the problem, it's the stability of apps. If the WM was crashing and taking down the system, I would agree. It doesn't though. Instead, apps crash, just as they do in windows. The average user may judge the OS based upon the stability of the apps, but telling the WM to fix the problem isn't going to solve anything. You're telling the wrong developers to improve their apps.
Okay, you are right! My statement was incorrect! Was a fun discussion tho, up until you proved me wrong!:) I think what I really should have been saying was basically 'take away all of the power from the applications developers' a la windows with the Win32 API and then later MFC. But that removes the basic advantage that linux has over any other OS, which is more power to the developer!
The only instance I know of where Launchers stop working is when netscape has gone berserk and you can't load another netscape. Mozilla doesn't have this problem. In fact, mozilla acts like Netscape in windows in that you can load it as many times as you like. (You can do this with netscape too I realize).
Good.. please come to my house and explain that to my mozilla launcher that isn't working at this VERY moment. I had to switch to Konqueror just to get a browser running.. I would be VERY happy if you would tell this mozilla launcher that it should be working fine.
The problems you describe have NOTHING to do with the window manager, but the products themselves. In Linux, many programs only allow one instance of themselves to be running at a time, or have issues when a particular instance on them goes nuts (see netscape).
I completely understand this.. My point is that to the linux newbie this is transparent, he couldn't care less how long your uptime has been, he really doesn't care if your applications work.. he wants his computer to work seamlessly.. and he will choose the platform that makes his computer work as seamlessly as possible
Browsers and applications dying, once again, are the fault of the application NOT the window-manager. If you judge window managers based on applications, then windows is the worst window manager on earth because apps that run on it crash all the time.
2 things here.. 1st.. the average user does judge how stable the entire platform is based on how stable the application he wants to run is.. and 2nd.. please tell my windows box this, because it apparently forgot that it was supposed to crash all the time when I stoped running windows 95.. Since 98SE it's worked pretty damn flawlessly...
Please dont' get me wrong, I support linux %100.. I develop in linux and I hate running windows.. linux is absolutely the perfect os for me, I can get around in linux at least 10-20 times faster than I can in windows, I can do ANYTHING I want in linux... however, I'm not the average user, and my point is that the GUIs in linux need to make quite a bit of progress before they are ready for the average user, I think stability IS an issue, I'm sorry you don't feel that way, but the other more important issue is, that the average user must be able to do EVERYTHING he can do in windows without once opening xterm.. until that happens linux is not ready for the average user..
I'm still waiting for my first KDE crash since I upgraded to 1.1.2 back in about Nov '99, but I couldn't get Windows 2000 to work on the same PC. It blue-screened every time I booted after thrashing the hard disk for about 5 minutes. I eventually canned it in favour of Windows 98 (after trying to reinstall it) which doesn't really cause any problems while I'm watching DVDs on it. YMMV of course.
*Shrug*.. then my only response can be this is why linux will never make it to the desktop... if anyone points out one of it's shortcomings you immediately get 4 responses that say "Works fine for me! YMMV!" No one wants constructive criticism, they just want to read slashdot and see 10 posts of "Linux RULES!!"..
Man, and here I was thinking that all of these port scans were coming from script kiddies.. little did I know that the fbi was trying out their 1337 h4X0ring $k|11z on my pc. Okay.. I admit it.. I suck at l337 speak!
No experience of Win2K, but I run KDE 2.1 every day, 8 hours a day It crashes probably once every two to three weeks. My business partner has Win98 and crashes daily - at least.
Unfortunately I have little or no experience with KDE in the past year or so, so I am sure it has made leaps and bounds since the last time I ran it.. but I truley think I could probably fix whatever problems your business partner is having, if Win98SE is crashing that much it something is wrong with the setup.. now the problems I have with the linux desktops/windows managers/windows systems are probably fixable also; however, I seem to run into times when my launchers just quit working, or when my browser just dies or when my application just dies at random. I feel this happens a lot less in Windoze than in the linux gui's.. and my point is that it is important to remember that in the REAL desktop market, people don't care how long the kernel can run, they do care how stable the GUI platform is.. if we really want linux to be mainstream that is where the focus needs to be.
I may be incorrect on a few points and simply missed how KDE and/or GNOME handle a feature - in that case, I'd like to know. However, it's been my experience that GNOME and KDE can't be truly newbie-friendly without the ability to easily change hardware (and service) settings.
You are absolutely %150 correct.. Everyone forgets that linux will only be as good as the GUI that runs on it. Everyone forgets the GUI is the part the linux newbie will focus on. Without good configuration tools in the desktop (i.e. Control Panel in Windoze) no one will ever be able to figure out linux. Not to mention that the stability of these desktops will be what the average person see's as the 'stability' of linux. It doesn't matter if the kernel can run for 10 years without a reboot if Xfree is (or the window manager or the desktop) is core dumping every 20 minutes... And honestly, I believe the window managers and the desktops in Linux aren't nearly as stable (esp GNOME) as Win2k or Win98SE. Now, personally, I run GNOME on Linux at home because I love it and I'm one of the biggest fans of Open Source, I just feel that everyone forgets that the OS is only as stable as the GUI, at least in the desktop market.
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I'm 99% sure you are wrong. One funny thing I saw at Intel was the 'Sun Lab' full of Sparc 5's and 10's for people to use (I never got access to the lab, but I could see it through a window). All of their design is on Wintel boxes last I checked. Of course I've been out of the loop a while now!
Uhmm.. you underestimate the power of the Dark Side. Mundie spoke to one small room and look how well we have distributed his message. Not to mention that open source advocates look like madmen in the eyes of the CTO's (how can anyone make money off of 'free' software? THEY MUST BE CRAZY!). Mundie got the exact response he wanted. It's called a troll and we (open source advocates) fell for it. We highly publicized Mundies rants and we thought people were listening when we said 'look how crazy he is'. Instead Joe (you know, average Joe) will walk away thinking that Microsoft must be right, after all, look at all that pretty glowing stuff in their coffers (read MONEY).
I think someone was pulling your leg. I've spent many an hour on Texas Highways and never saw anything that remotely sounds like this. I am willing to doubt that you would ever find a texas highway without other traffic on it, if nothing else there will be tons of trucks on almost every Texas Highway.
Funny, last time I called a vegas hooker I had no problems at all getting through..
Acutally, it's much much much worse than this.. it would be more like: Intel sues ME for using AMD, Microsoft Sues YOU for using Linux, Marvel sues Fargo for reading Penny Arcade instead of Marvel comics, etc. These guys aren't suing the competition, they are suing a customer because the customer choose the competition.. It's truely frightening...
Acutally, it's much much much worse than this.. it would be more like: Intel sues ME for using AMD, Microsoft Sues YOU for using Linux, Marvel sues Fargo for reading Penny Arcade instead of Marvel comics, etc. These guys aren't suing the competition, they are suing a customer because the customer choose the competition.. It's truely frightening...
Hmm.. I agree with your point, but as I understand the new MS Scheme isn't a pay by month type system, but more of a pay the $5M up front, then pay another $5M in three years.
I think you are forgetting the important fact that People ARE Animals.
Okay, I don't know where he got his info from, but I did see a discovery program discussing the Right Whale and it's steady decline in population along East coast of the US due to collisions with ships. The Right Whale was named by whalers because it was the 'Right' whale to harpoon (good huntin' I believe). Now of course you want me to support my claims so I did a quick search on google and found several Right Whale pages, every page I read (10 or so) listed collisions with ships as the leading threat to Right Whales. I'm only going to include one link, but feel free to search for yourself. Ohh.. and the estimated world wide population appears to be around 1000 with 350 in the Northwest Alantic (unfortunately this is the most endangered of all the great whales). FYI: It is estimated that we will only have this type of whale for another 190 years.
HEY!, those of us in western Oregon are a little worried, of course I'm hoping that he'll let an audience attend... I'd love to watch this guy succeed or blow himself up.. I mean, it's the chance of a lifetime to actually get to view a darwin award in the making!
Well sir, if you were to read the article you would find that this has nothing to do with sending a beep, but if you had an mp3 version of the william tell overture you could send that right over your pc speaker.. his device driver is used to play wav's and mp3's over the pc speaker, not just beeping...
Well.. as long as it's not affiliated with the XFL I guess it will be okay! Seriously, how does this file system compare to ext3? Should I just wait? :)
Acutally it was abandoned, hence Sealand was able to claim the structure. If anything is abandoned in international waters, it can be claimed by any nation.
It's in the Sealand History under the Initial Challenge to Sealand's Sovereignty heading. Read all about it! :) There is also information about Sealands first war on that page.. very interesting read!
International waters or not, ocean platforms belong to the organization (or, in this case, military) that built them.
This is VERY correct; however, you seem to have forgotten a very important point, your quote should read: International waters or not, ocean platforms belong to the organization (or, in this case, military) that built them, until they abandon them., Which is exact what happened, that is how Sealand was able to claim the land!
You should consider researching what you say. The UK government ruled that that the fortress is not part of the UK and is in international waters.. hence.. it's not UK property!
Okay, I was off by a decade, my point still stands, fact hounding or not, I'm willing to bet that optical storage media was at least a theory at the time that Clarke wrote 2001..
I'm fairly certain that you could call Auther C. Clarke a visionary and get away with it. I've read many papers written by him about his series of books (ranging from 2001-3001) and he always tries to accurately portray the future. Holographic storage medium is not a new idea, even in the late 1970's (when the movie was written) the idea of optically storing large amounts of data was probably already discussed in theory. Mr. Clarke loves to read papers discussing some distant theory of technology and then write about them in his book. Read 3001 for some really fine examples of this.
Of course, one could also take the opinion that Sci-Fi pushes the future, i.e. these guys saw 2001 and decided to make it a reality.
This is quite different in the fact that it gives you legal protection. Previously you were either releasing your work into the public domain (anyone could change or take credit for it, and you had no legal recourse) or you just were choosing not to enforce your copyright (so the people distributing were breaking the law, even if you weren't going to prosecute). This gives you several rights, the most important one is that anyone can distribute as long as they give the original author credit (which is very important with an artform like music, it would bite to hear your song later and have someone else claiming they wrote/performed it).
Hey Fearsome, you are an excellent troll. Why don't you start to make it a challenge for yourself and spell out the word Troll using the first letter of every sentence or something along those lines.. make it an art form.. :)
Okay, you are right! My statement was incorrect! Was a fun discussion tho, up until you proved me wrong! :) I think what I really should have been saying was basically 'take away all of the power from the applications developers' a la windows with the Win32 API and then later MFC. But that removes the basic advantage that linux has over any other OS, which is more power to the developer!
Good.. please come to my house and explain that to my mozilla launcher that isn't working at this VERY moment. I had to switch to Konqueror just to get a browser running.. I would be VERY happy if you would tell this mozilla launcher that it should be working fine.
The problems you describe have NOTHING to do with the window manager, but the products themselves. In Linux, many programs only allow one instance of themselves to be running at a time, or have issues when a particular instance on them goes nuts (see netscape).
I completely understand this.. My point is that to the linux newbie this is transparent, he couldn't care less how long your uptime has been, he really doesn't care if your applications work.. he wants his computer to work seamlessly.. and he will choose the platform that makes his computer work as seamlessly as possible
Browsers and applications dying, once again, are the fault of the application NOT the window-manager. If you judge window managers based on applications, then windows is the worst window manager on earth because apps that run on it crash all the time.
2 things here.. 1st.. the average user does judge how stable the entire platform is based on how stable the application he wants to run is.. and 2nd.. please tell my windows box this, because it apparently forgot that it was supposed to crash all the time when I stoped running windows 95.. Since 98SE it's worked pretty damn flawlessly...
Please dont' get me wrong, I support linux %100.. I develop in linux and I hate running windows.. linux is absolutely the perfect os for me, I can get around in linux at least 10-20 times faster than I can in windows, I can do ANYTHING I want in linux... however, I'm not the average user, and my point is that the GUIs in linux need to make quite a bit of progress before they are ready for the average user, I think stability IS an issue, I'm sorry you don't feel that way, but the other more important issue is, that the average user must be able to do EVERYTHING he can do in windows without once opening xterm.. until that happens linux is not ready for the average user..
*Shrug*.. then my only response can be this is why linux will never make it to the desktop... if anyone points out one of it's shortcomings you immediately get 4 responses that say "Works fine for me! YMMV!" No one wants constructive criticism, they just want to read slashdot and see 10 posts of "Linux RULES!!"..
Man, and here I was thinking that all of these port scans were coming from script kiddies.. little did I know that the fbi was trying out their 1337 h4X0ring $k|11z on my pc. Okay.. I admit it.. I suck at l337 speak!
Unfortunately I have little or no experience with KDE in the past year or so, so I am sure it has made leaps and bounds since the last time I ran it.. but I truley think I could probably fix whatever problems your business partner is having, if Win98SE is crashing that much it something is wrong with the setup.. now the problems I have with the linux desktops/windows managers/windows systems are probably fixable also; however, I seem to run into times when my launchers just quit working, or when my browser just dies or when my application just dies at random. I feel this happens a lot less in Windoze than in the linux gui's.. and my point is that it is important to remember that in the REAL desktop market, people don't care how long the kernel can run, they do care how stable the GUI platform is.. if we really want linux to be mainstream that is where the focus needs to be.
You are absolutely %150 correct.. Everyone forgets that linux will only be as good as the GUI that runs on it. Everyone forgets the GUI is the part the linux newbie will focus on. Without good configuration tools in the desktop (i.e. Control Panel in Windoze) no one will ever be able to figure out linux. Not to mention that the stability of these desktops will be what the average person see's as the 'stability' of linux. It doesn't matter if the kernel can run for 10 years without a reboot if Xfree is (or the window manager or the desktop) is core dumping every 20 minutes... And honestly, I believe the window managers and the desktops in Linux aren't nearly as stable (esp GNOME) as Win2k or Win98SE. Now, personally, I run GNOME on Linux at home because I love it and I'm one of the biggest fans of Open Source, I just feel that everyone forgets that the OS is only as stable as the GUI, at least in the desktop market.