Why not? What if you used a package that used the Perl that came with Unix Services that Microsoft provides? And the issue got fixed by installing Perl from source, or from ActivePerl?
I find that *VERY* hard to believe, having worked with them when I was with a F100 company, and again, when I was with a F1000 company (which later got bought out by a F50 company, but that didn't count, since RedCrap didn't know about that).
It was always "have you rebooted" and "have you updated", and when RHELL 4 -> RHELL 4 U1 came about, their AMD64 bit support/packages sucked donkeys balls, and again when U2 came out. I had to spend 3 weeks debugging some crap for them. Oh, yeah, especially wonderful was when up2date crashed and killed the rpm database, and the recommendation was reinstall. Luckily my boxes were designed to be reinstalled quickly, but damnit, this is *NOT* enterprise support.
"didn't feel like being an electronic pack mule that day" - oh my ghod! Intruder Alert! Intruder Alert!
How can any trueblue slashdotter not want to be an electronic pack mule? Why, if they ever come up with a way to get electricity from a biological process, I'll be hooking up all my gadgets to myself!
I think the fundie statement would be something to the line this is the truth so we need to send it. I don't see Genesis as actual scientific truth more in truth is in the point of the story.
See, that's the problem. I was tricked by the statement you made: So you are allowing your extreme atheism to get in the way of science?
I think some other folks made some very good points, about how the old testament has been translated into so many languages. That's a damned good point about using it as key. But when you start off your post with "So you are allowing your extreme atheism to get in the way of science?" you got tossed onto the religious fundie heap.
So you are allowing your extreme atheism to get in the way of science?
Why use Genesis 1-3 it is one of those stories that have been translated so many times and is ingrained in the culture of 3/4 of the world, across 3 Major religions, and which as already lasted for thousands - tens of thousands of years. Chances are that some translation of the story will survive and when people decode the disk they will have a common story to translate and if there are gaps in the translated languge they can use their knowledge of the story to fill it in and get a better understanding of the language. Very little documents are so widely known as Genesis. It is not about religion or fath in the message, it is about science of sending information to the future that can be decoded.
If we send the DVDs of StarWars and Startrek it would be equally confusing.
When you say 3/4 of the world, do you mean land mass, or people? Wait, you said culture. I'd guess people. Given that China has 1.3 Billion people, and India has 1 Billion, and Korea/Japan has a bunch more people, and Indonesia is the world biggest muslim country, and hmm... all the near east countries are muslims too, another, what, 1 billion? I just counted half the world's population that does not have Christianity as its base.
As for the tens of thousands of years - even your own bishops say your religion is only 4+ thousand years old - WTF are you smoking?
Damned religious fundie.
Hey, I know, why not put a copy of the FSM's teachings in there? Hey, hey, I know, Buddha's teachings, yeah, I like Buddhism, lets put that in there. After all, there's nothing that shows more on the cycle of life than us blowing ourselves up, and having another group build up a new civilization (and then blow themselves up, etc etc).
WTF are you smoking?! Just because you have much more badly translated versions, that is more accurate?! I was going to ask you to share whatever you're smoking, but then I'll just end up thinking like you, so no thanks.
http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/23/0110243 - I like the part that goes However, I've got a feeling that some people won't be happy to see it online, since it makes no mention of the resurrection, which is a central part of Christian belief."
You already have so many beasts in IT, why would you hire any in Marketing? Hotties all the way man!
A vendor was visiting (been onsite multiple times), and wanted to thank one of the business directors. So I took him over to another building on the non-IT side of the campus.
We went, the director wasn't in, and we left. On the way out of the building, he said "Is it my imagination..." and I cut him off with "nope, it isn't"
Then I explained to him that marketing lived in that building, and that previously, he was slumming in the IT side.
Why is parent a flame bait?/. just yesterday had an article about a javascript attack in firefox that takes over the clipboard. I tried it on my firefox, and it worked.
Nah, he's just joking. Though, in some cases, the "protection money" people do provide some limited services, from what I understand. But only from a self interest point of view (ie, keeping the goose a-laying)
Oh great. Care to share your metrics for measuring your friendships? I'm interested to know what makes a great friend, and what makes only a good friend. You bought into that whole "you have to be able to measure it to rate it" crap from your MBA class didn't you?
As for your life lesson #1 - wasn't the whole fucking point of my post pointing that out, captain obvious?
Bull. Who says I can't recognize good and bad performers? No, the problem is getting the correct metric in place so that you are truly measuring productivity and not training people to work to artificial metrics. All of a sudden, you have wonderful metrics, but actual productivity suffers.
For example, one of the teams I manage performs access administration. The amount of work to provision accounts on different systems is radically different. AD is simple, less than a minute, unless they have a lot of strange requirements. However, there's one truly screwed up system where it can take one whole day to create 8 accounts. My top performer/team lead took about 45 minutes to set up each account. Since she typically closes out twice the number of tickets compared to others, I doubt that she was being lazy on this ticket. Other members on the team hate this system too.
So, how do you measure productivity in cases like this? Yes, I can put a modifier on that.
AD account == 1 minute Screwed up account == 45 minutes etc etc
and tally up at the end of day. But that screwed up 45 minutes is only in the worst case. In the best case, it's about 5 minutes.
Oh, so now I should measure screwed up system more discretely.
AD account == 1 minute Screwed up Account Scenario A == 5 minutes Screwed up Account Scenario B == 10 minutes . . . Screwed up Account Scenario J == 50 minutes etc etc etc
And everyone better track everything they do to the minute!! Especially after I spent months tracking and averaging out the time!!
Oh wait, why don't I just trust that my folks do good work, and save myself that heartache? It does mean that we can't do telecommute easily, but *shrug*
And if US had more gold medals than China, but less silver/bronze, I'm sure they will still sort the tables the same way they're doing it right now, right?...wanders off muttering "moron..."
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Why not? What if you used a package that used the Perl that came with Unix Services that Microsoft provides? And the issue got fixed by installing Perl from source, or from ActivePerl?
Ummm... other than shiny pictures, what is the difference between redhat and centos?
Oh, support. Wait, you mean, a bug in centos isn't a bug in redhat until someone magically buys a redhat license? Now I've learnt something new.
I find that *VERY* hard to believe, having worked with them when I was with a F100 company, and again, when I was with a F1000 company (which later got bought out by a F50 company, but that didn't count, since RedCrap didn't know about that).
It was always "have you rebooted" and "have you updated", and when RHELL 4 -> RHELL 4 U1 came about, their AMD64 bit support/packages sucked donkeys balls, and again when U2 came out. I had to spend 3 weeks debugging some crap for them. Oh, yeah, especially wonderful was when up2date crashed and killed the rpm database, and the recommendation was reinstall. Luckily my boxes were designed to be reinstalled quickly, but damnit, this is *NOT* enterprise support.
Oh man, my dreams of owning a Mospeada power armor is finally possible! I want a Cyclone!!!!!
Still not anal enough to be Steve Jobs. He once spent 3 months selecting the perfect color for the NeXT cube. 400+ different shades of *BLACK*
The biggest problem is that they're selling it for US$300+ in Japan, but the University wants to sell it for $1500+
Another good idea dying on the vine caused by greed.
"didn't feel like being an electronic pack mule that day" - oh my ghod! Intruder Alert! Intruder Alert!
How can any trueblue slashdotter not want to be an electronic pack mule? Why, if they ever come up with a way to get electricity from a biological process, I'll be hooking up all my gadgets to myself!
Having worked at FedEx, and having had a friend who was a senior auditor at FedEx, I can tell you it is as screwed up inside as other large companies.
And there's no younger managers - it's an old boys network.
Because you live in an evil socialistic communist state of course!
See, that's the problem. I was tricked by the statement you made: So you are allowing your extreme atheism to get in the way of science?
I think some other folks made some very good points, about how the old testament has been translated into so many languages. That's a damned good point about using it as key. But when you start off your post with "So you are allowing your extreme atheism to get in the way of science?" you got tossed onto the religious fundie heap.
When you say 3/4 of the world, do you mean land mass, or people? Wait, you said culture. I'd guess people. Given that China has 1.3 Billion people, and India has 1 Billion, and Korea/Japan has a bunch more people, and Indonesia is the world biggest muslim country, and hmm... all the near east countries are muslims too, another, what, 1 billion? I just counted half the world's population that does not have Christianity as its base.
As for the tens of thousands of years - even your own bishops say your religion is only 4+ thousand years old - WTF are you smoking?
Damned religious fundie.
Hey, I know, why not put a copy of the FSM's teachings in there? Hey, hey, I know, Buddha's teachings, yeah, I like Buddhism, lets put that in there. After all, there's nothing that shows more on the cycle of life than us blowing ourselves up, and having another group build up a new civilization (and then blow themselves up, etc etc).
WTF are you smoking?! Just because you have much more badly translated versions, that is more accurate?! I was going to ask you to share whatever you're smoking, but then I'll just end up thinking like you, so no thanks.
http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/23/0110243 - I like the part that goes However, I've got a feeling that some people won't be happy to see it online, since it makes no mention of the resurrection, which is a central part of Christian belief."
Pico is the fallen one. The true savior is Nano.
Why not? Even Microsoft publicly states that 5000 of their 55000 employees are strictly for internal support services.
You forgot the word "competent" in there somewhere. Not saying that windows people are incompetent, but, here, let Microsoft speak for itself:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/11/21/ms_paper_touts_unix/
http://www.securityoffice.net/mssecrets/hotmail.html
You already have so many beasts in IT, why would you hire any in Marketing? Hotties all the way man!
A vendor was visiting (been onsite multiple times), and wanted to thank one of the business directors. So I took him over to another building on the non-IT side of the campus.
We went, the director wasn't in, and we left. On the way out of the building, he said "Is it my imagination..." and I cut him off with "nope, it isn't"
Then I explained to him that marketing lived in that building, and that previously, he was slumming in the IT side.
Fortune 100 company, 100+k employees, etc
Why is parent a flame bait? /. just yesterday had an article about a javascript attack in firefox that takes over the clipboard. I tried it on my firefox, and it worked.
Nah, he's just joking. Though, in some cases, the "protection money" people do provide some limited services, from what I understand. But only from a self interest point of view (ie, keeping the goose a-laying)
Spoken like a person who has never paid protection money... though I suppose you could argue it's a form of taxation.
Sure it is. You do not know how many liquor stores I've been generous to today.
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So that you can always spot a windows user, I guess.
Oh great. Care to share your metrics for measuring your friendships? I'm interested to know what makes a great friend, and what makes only a good friend. You bought into that whole "you have to be able to measure it to rate it" crap from your MBA class didn't you?
As for your life lesson #1 - wasn't the whole fucking point of my post pointing that out, captain obvious?
Bull. Who says I can't recognize good and bad performers? No, the problem is getting the correct metric in place so that you are truly measuring productivity and not training people to work to artificial metrics. All of a sudden, you have wonderful metrics, but actual productivity suffers.
For example, one of the teams I manage performs access administration. The amount of work to provision accounts on different systems is radically different. AD is simple, less than a minute, unless they have a lot of strange requirements. However, there's one truly screwed up system where it can take one whole day to create 8 accounts. My top performer/team lead took about 45 minutes to set up each account. Since she typically closes out twice the number of tickets compared to others, I doubt that she was being lazy on this ticket. Other members on the team hate this system too.
So, how do you measure productivity in cases like this? Yes, I can put a modifier on that.
AD account == 1 minute
Screwed up account == 45 minutes
etc etc
and tally up at the end of day. But that screwed up 45 minutes is only in the worst case. In the best case, it's about 5 minutes.
Oh, so now I should measure screwed up system more discretely.
AD account == 1 minute
Screwed up Account Scenario A == 5 minutes
Screwed up Account Scenario B == 10 minutes
.
.
.
Screwed up Account Scenario J == 50 minutes
etc etc etc
And everyone better track everything they do to the minute!! Especially after I spent months tracking and averaging out the time!!
Oh wait, why don't I just trust that my folks do good work, and save myself that heartache? It does mean that we can't do telecommute easily, but *shrug*
And if US had more gold medals than China, but less silver/bronze, I'm sure they will still sort the tables the same way they're doing it right now, right? ...wanders off muttering "moron..."
Oh, come on, you don't want to leave the Microsoft dominated world do you? Come and use FATX please...