As an addendum, if MS did claim property rights of uploaded content, then it changes the story quite a bit. But my point remains, with the facts we had available to us from the story itself, we made a judgement based on principle, regardless if whether we hated the company that had been wronged.
It's what seperates us from religious zealots. Yes, we hate MS, but we know right from wrong, and MS was wronged here.
Anyone who would use a story like this to bash MS, now they are the zealots. It's an interesting experiment. Might make for a good time to make friends/foes.
It's in the GPL, as long as it is in the form that is "most preferred" for editing the source code, it is fine. As long as you most prefer machine code for editing the program, and you really didn't just compile it from C or whatnot, then I'm sure it would be fine. You may have a hard time convincing them that you really wrote a 300K program directly in machine language though.:)
When we're talking about software, libre pretty much compels gratis. It's easy to see why: if I attempt to charge more than a pittance for my software you can simply get a copy elsewhere.
You are thinking in the old paradigm, where companies hide behind copyright laws (which don't apply well to modern technology) to resell something over and over that has no market value (supply->infinity, price->zero). You probably also support the efforts of the RIAA/MPAA.
However, free software relies on a new paradigm, one where you get much more for your money, and the software produced is far better.
For example, I recently contracted the author of a certain open source program to add functionality for a certain type of file my company uses.
It cost far less than it would have to buy the same functionality from the overpriced and underskilled commercial heavyweights in my area. It also took far less time, working directly with the developer, rather than through layers of red tape.
The community benefits from the added functionality, my company benefits from the use of a superior program, with support directly from the programmers, for far less money. It's win-win-win-win.
I don't buy that. In order to change the car, replace parts of you, you do not need design plans, you can simply measure the bolt spacings, etc, and get the part you need, even replacing the whole engine. Reverse engineering compiled binaries to make a large change to them is an order of magnitude harder.
I'd say it's worse than the hood welded shut, it's more like having all the parts welded together, which would have to be carefully cut and remilled to replace one part of it.
And a recent event [bbc.co.uk], where someone got his training and weapons via a shooting club, rather speaks against the general availibilty of guns.
The story mentions nothing of where he obtained the guns. Besides, it's a fallacy to think that he could not have gotten the guns, even if they were illegal. Illicit drugs are still readily available, despite being banned for decades.
I don't see how armed people would have fought the nazi regime,
Thousands of cheap liberator pistols were dropped on occupied territories. The idea was that a civillian could use the single-shot weapon to sneak up on and kill a german soldier and take his gun. It's difficult to guage how effective the strategy was.
It may be easy for you, because you live in a nice comfy, stable world. For those of us who realize that all countries go through times of civil unrest, don't try to dictate how we can protect ourselves and our families.
I guess you support the anti-circumvention clause of the US DMCA too. After all, you think the means to an illegal end should be banned, not the illegal action itself.
Too bad he wasn't put in Jail as a felon before its discovery. The Nobel prize could have went to someone more law-abiding. We really need tougher drug laws to get these kinds of criminals off the street.
Posting your callsign is the same as posting your full name and address. I wouldn't put it past some of the weird people on here to sign you up a lot of "special offers" if you said something they didn't like.
Most people just blindly click OK, because it is usually OK.
A lot of small e-business sites want to use their hosting provider's cert, but don't want the user's browser to display the hosting company's domain rather than their own. (Yes I know it's stupid, people are picky as fuck when you are making web pages).
Anyway, that causes the browser to warn that the cert is not valid for the domain it is being used in.
It's kinda possible to get around this using frames, but then the browser might say something about mixed secure and unsecure items on a page. The only real way to do it right is to just let the users see the hosting provider's address, as far as I know, or have the site buy their own cert.
You overestimate the harm of a small amount of space junk. One of the things that is going for us is that there is a lot of space up there, and the space to junk ratio is very high. I seriously doubt that a small amount of shot, the couple kilogram that someone could manage to loft, would cause much damage, there are probably already thousands of kilograms of tiny space junk up there. Cumulative effects of thousands of small launches could be bad though.
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Can't work at nyplgate.nypl.org through RH, but I can through MS.
I just tried it, pulled up some records, did some searches, it all seems to work fine for me within gnome-terminal.
Note that in the UNIX paradigm, telnet does not provide terminal emulation, that is up to the terminal program you run telnet from.
Back in college, I would participate in research studies to earn a little extra money. One of the studies was of a 3D graphical method of laying out links to web sites. I was given time to look over the program, then they asked me to find certain information.
It was pretty interesting, the program was similar to the interface to Chime for chemistry, you could zoom in and out and rotate the link structure. I'm not sure what the result of the research was, and I'd say it was a toss up as to whether it was easier to use or not.
Maybe the CS grad student that did the research reads slashdot and he can tell us how it turned out.
I also love the old IBM keyboards. This message is being typed on one in fact. I think it adds at least 10 WPM to my speed to be on an IBM. I pick them up at the local thrift shop for like $2. Imagine someone giving away such a great keyboard.
The only problem I have is lost keycaps, since as you know, all of the keys have seperate caps that easily come off. Usually it isn't a big problem, but at the thrift shop they are usually banged around some and sometimes lose a cap.
When motherboards stop using PS/2 connectors, I will have to buy PS/2 to USB adapters, unless I can find someplace that sells real keyboards, and not those crappy rubber cup/membrane cheapo jobs that everyone sells these days.
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MS telnet was totally useless, at least in the 9X series. It's only marginally better in 2000 et al.
It's more of a discouragement to hackers if anything.:)
It wasn't stupid when you frame it differently. He wanted the attention, he got more attention than he ever bargained for. He was wildly sucessful in accomplishing his goals. He is almost a household name.
Bad example, natural phonomenon are discovered, not invented.
But what you said is true of nearly all inventions. For example, edison may have made the electrical light workable, but arc lighting and various other electrical light forms were invented first, so saying edison invented the electrical light is false also.
History is full of examples like this. An invention is hardly ever spawned in a vacuum. (pun hehe).
This libel suit is just one part of an ongoing battle, one between the police/prison industry, and the general public.
If you are interested in Virginia's prison problem, including the so-called "supermax" prisions, and the insane shit that goes down at one of them, check out the following sites.
In Virginia, prison is a big business, we import criminals to fill our prisons, and it's used as a source of revenue. On-duty cops are paid state funds to lobby the state legislature for harsher laws. Police, as a organized group, should not have a political voice, they are supposed to enforce the laws, not create them.
I'm no liberal, I believe in strict enforcement of sane laws. But when you have police writing the laws, to protect and expand their own industry, it does not serve the public's best interest.
The public accepted copy protection when it accepted macrovision, and thousands of other various copy protection schemes dating back to the C64 and Apple II days, possibly earlier.
It's entirely possible that the music industry will be like the software industry, and realize that in the end it benefits them to not be assholes, most of the time at least.
Paper money is only worth what people are willing to trade me for it. It is, however, backed by the combined equity of one of the largest (economy wise) nations on the planet. There is still the risk that US money will be worthless one day, but that risk is tiny compared to the probability that MS stock will be worthless someday.
If there is never a chance to get at the underlying assets of the company, then it's just a glorified ponzi. It's zero sum. No one can make money without someone else losing money. Note that "making money" in this case is realizing a gain by selling the stock. Paper gains don't count, because not everyone could sell out and realize these paper gains, only a small percentage of the current holders could sell at any one time without depressing the stock price for future sellers.
Slashdot Mirror
As an addendum, if MS did claim property rights of uploaded content, then it changes the story quite a bit. But my point remains, with the facts we had available to us from the story itself, we made a judgement based on principle, regardless if whether we hated the company that had been wronged.
It's what seperates us from religious zealots. Yes, we hate MS, but we know right from wrong, and MS was wronged here.
Anyone who would use a story like this to bash MS, now they are the zealots. It's an interesting experiment. Might make for a good time to make friends/foes.
A man was charged with child porn because he pasted a minor's head onto a nude adult body. Is that right?
It's in the GPL, as long as it is in the form that is "most preferred" for editing the source code, it is fine. As long as you most prefer machine code for editing the program, and you really didn't just compile it from C or whatnot, then I'm sure it would be fine. You may have a hard time convincing them that you really wrote a 300K program directly in machine language though. :)
When we're talking about software, libre
pretty much compels gratis. It's easy to see why: if I attempt to charge more than a pittance for my software you can simply get a copy elsewhere.
You are thinking in the old paradigm, where companies hide behind copyright laws (which don't apply well to modern technology) to resell something over and over that has no market value (supply->infinity, price->zero). You probably also support the efforts of the RIAA/MPAA.
However, free software relies on a new paradigm, one where you get much more for your money, and the software produced is far better.
For example, I recently contracted the author of a certain open source program to add functionality for a certain type of file my company uses.
It cost far less than it would have to buy the same functionality from the overpriced and underskilled commercial heavyweights in my area. It also took far less time, working directly with the developer, rather than through layers of red tape.
The community benefits from the added functionality, my company benefits from the use of a superior program, with support directly from the programmers, for far less money. It's win-win-win-win.
I don't buy that. In order to change the car, replace parts of you, you do not need design plans, you can simply measure the bolt spacings, etc, and get the part you need, even replacing the whole engine. Reverse engineering compiled binaries to make a large change to them is an order of magnitude harder.
I'd say it's worse than the hood welded shut, it's more like having all the parts welded together, which would have to be carefully cut and remilled to replace one part of it.
And a
recent event [bbc.co.uk], where someone got his training and weapons via a shooting club, rather speaks against the general availibilty of guns.
The story mentions nothing of where he obtained the guns. Besides, it's a fallacy to think that he could not have gotten the guns, even if they were illegal. Illicit drugs are still readily available, despite being banned for decades.
I don't see how armed people would have fought the nazi regime,
Thousands of cheap liberator pistols were dropped on occupied territories. The idea was that a civillian could use the single-shot weapon to sneak up on and kill a german soldier and take his gun. It's difficult to guage how effective the strategy was.
It may be easy for you, because you live in a nice comfy, stable world. For those of us who realize that all countries go through times of civil unrest, don't try to dictate how we can protect ourselves and our families.
I guess you support the anti-circumvention clause of the US DMCA too. After all, you think the means to an illegal end should be banned, not the illegal action itself.
And the inventor credits its discovery to LSD.
Too bad he wasn't put in Jail as a felon before its discovery. The Nobel prize could have went to someone more law-abiding. We really need tougher drug laws to get these kinds of criminals off the street.
I know it won't always help, but source 0/0 should be blocked at the perimeter anyway, those are considered aliens.
Posting your callsign is the same as posting your full name and address. I wouldn't put it past some of the weird people on here to sign you up a lot of "special offers" if you said something they didn't like.
Most people just blindly click OK, because it is usually OK.
A lot of small e-business sites want to use their hosting provider's cert, but don't want the user's browser to display the hosting company's domain rather than their own. (Yes I know it's stupid, people are picky as fuck when you are making web pages).
Anyway, that causes the browser to warn that the cert is not valid for the domain it is being used in.
It's kinda possible to get around this using frames, but then the browser might say something about mixed secure and unsecure items on a page. The only real way to do it right is to just let the users see the hosting provider's address, as far as I know, or have the site buy their own cert.
Don't post your callsign on Slashdot, unless you enjoy getting signed up to NAMBLA's monthly newsletter. Havn't you ever read at -1?
Wow, the chinese invented the lawn chair stunt
This just goes to show how biased american reports are, trying to make it out like the US invented everything. First the TV and now this.
You overestimate the harm of a small amount of space junk. One of the things that is going for us is that there is a lot of space up there, and the space to junk ratio is very high. I seriously doubt that a small amount of shot, the couple kilogram that someone could manage to loft, would cause much damage, there are probably already thousands of kilograms of tiny space junk up there. Cumulative effects of thousands of small launches could be bad though.
Can't work at nyplgate.nypl.org through RH, but I can through MS.
I just tried it, pulled up some records, did some searches, it all seems to work fine for me within gnome-terminal.
Note that in the UNIX paradigm, telnet does not provide terminal emulation, that is up to the terminal program you run telnet from.
And remember Gopher before that? :)
Back in college, I would participate in research studies to earn a little extra money. One of the studies was of a 3D graphical method of laying out links to web sites. I was given time to look over the program, then they asked me to find certain information.
It was pretty interesting, the program was similar to the interface to Chime for chemistry, you could zoom in and out and rotate the link structure. I'm not sure what the result of the research was, and I'd say it was a toss up as to whether it was easier to use or not.
Maybe the CS grad student that did the research reads slashdot and he can tell us how it turned out.
I also love the old IBM keyboards. This message is being typed on one in fact. I think it adds at least 10 WPM to my speed to be on an IBM. I pick them up at the local thrift shop for like $2. Imagine someone giving away such a great keyboard.
The only problem I have is lost keycaps, since as you know, all of the keys have seperate caps that easily come off. Usually it isn't a big problem, but at the thrift shop they are usually banged around some and sometimes lose a cap.
When motherboards stop using PS/2 connectors, I will have to buy PS/2 to USB adapters, unless I can find someplace that sells real keyboards, and not those crappy rubber cup/membrane cheapo jobs that everyone sells these days.
MS telnet was totally useless, at least in the 9X series. It's only marginally better in 2000 et al.
:)
It's more of a discouragement to hackers if anything.
It wasn't stupid when you frame it differently. He wanted the attention, he got more attention than he ever bargained for. He was wildly sucessful in accomplishing his goals. He is almost a household name.
inventing electricity
Bad example, natural phonomenon are discovered, not invented.
But what you said is true of nearly all inventions. For example, edison may have made the electrical light workable, but arc lighting and various other electrical light forms were invented first, so saying edison invented the electrical light is false also.
History is full of examples like this. An invention is hardly ever spawned in a vacuum. (pun hehe).
This libel suit is just one part of an ongoing battle, one between the police/prison industry, and the general public.
If you are interested in Virginia's prison problem, including the so-called "supermax" prisions, and the insane shit that goes down at one of them, check out the following sites.
Committee to end the lockdown at Marion (old)
Drugsense
Human Rights Watch
November.org
In Virginia, prison is a big business, we import criminals to fill our prisons, and it's used as a source of revenue. On-duty cops are paid state funds to lobby the state legislature for harsher laws. Police, as a organized group, should not have a political voice, they are supposed to enforce the laws, not create them.
I'm no liberal, I believe in strict enforcement of sane laws. But when you have police writing the laws, to protect and expand their own industry, it does not serve the public's best interest.
The public accepted copy protection when it accepted macrovision, and thousands of other various copy protection schemes dating back to the C64 and Apple II days, possibly earlier.
It's entirely possible that the music industry will be like the software industry, and realize that in the end it benefits them to not be assholes, most of the time at least.
Paper money is only worth what people are willing to trade me for it. It is, however, backed by the combined equity of one of the largest (economy wise) nations on the planet. There is still the risk that US money will be worthless one day, but that risk is tiny compared to the probability that MS stock will be worthless someday.
If there is never a chance to get at the underlying assets of the company, then it's just a glorified ponzi. It's zero sum. No one can make money without someone else losing money. Note that "making money" in this case is realizing a gain by selling the stock. Paper gains don't count, because not everyone could sell out and realize these paper gains, only a small percentage of the current holders could sell at any one time without depressing the stock price for future sellers.
They will put these unique IDs somewhere on the edges of the disk. Where's my sharpie? :)