The various media concerns are trying to get the TV/DVD player/whatever to be Bob, while casting the consumer in the role of Carol. That's what all the fuss is about.
Yep, but no cryptographic system has been created that can stand up to Carol attacking Bob with a soldering iron and screwdrivers.
Doesn't matter if Bob is human or machine either.:)
There was plenty of time to shoot down planes on 9/11 and yet fighters weren't scrambled until 40 minutes later, and then only flew near at 25% of their maximum speed.
So, forgive me if I wouldn't trust the military to take prompt action.
Downloading is illegal, and there have been several cases -- including an earlier part of the Naspter litigation -- that have held so.
Could you cite them? What's the legal standard? If I buy a Tivo that violated the GPL, am I committing infringement? If I buy a computer from a computer store that cheated on Windows licensing, I'm guilty of a crime? What about recording something off the radio? What if the radio station didn't pay their licensing?
All those are cases of the person distributing the copyrighted work in an infringing manner, but I can't see the recipient being held liable.
And also, under Sony, a technology need only be potentially capable of substantial noninfringing uses.
Actually this situation is more similar to the MP3.com defense. MP3.com was sued over "beam-it" a service where you could insert a music CD into your drive, the software would verify which CD it was, then offer you the MP3s to download from MP3.com.
The court ruled that MP3.com was illegally distributing the MP3s, even though the people they sent them to had verified they had the physical CD.
Now, this confirms one part of the parent poster's argument, that the distribution side is illegal, even if you distribute to someone who owns a copy.
It doesn't specifically speak to the downloader's side of things, and that is still a gray area, as far as I know there are no precedents considering downloading copies of something you already own.
In fact there are very few cases involving downloading period. It's considered a much harder legal case to prove, and the music and movie industries have instead preferred to go after people uploading work they own, since that is pretty clear cut infringement under current case law. The way most of these networks are designed downloaders are also uploaders, so why try to prove the harder thing when the easier thing is almost always present?
The Napster defense was that there was no music on their servers, that they were merely an indexing service, like google. Napster should have won in my opinion, as this is a lot stronger case than MP3.com's. But they didn't win, and ruled that since their service had very little non-infringing use, they were committing contributory infringement.
This is why many poeple attempt to stress the non-infringing uses of technologies like bittorrent, because that was a key factor in determining the napster case.
Terrorism - the systematic use of fear, especially as a means of coercion.
SPEWS attempts to use fear of being blacklisted to coerce people to change ISP, sue their ISP, or otherwise bend to their will. They are the very definition of terrorist.
My mistake, I thought he was referring to Gran Turismo and GTA... I agree with the other post though, I think the point is still valid, Carmageddon 2 rocks.:)
You must not understand how kids get diagnosed with mental disorders. Their parents say they have it, and the doctor goes along with it. Who is the doctor to say the kid doesn't have the symptoms? The parent is around the kid a whole lot more.
So you can see how a "disorder" that have diagnostic criteria so broad that 76% of the people polled (yes, in an unscientific web poll) say they have it, can cause a huge damage to society, and can represent a major threat to the geek/nerd way of life.
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Thanks very much for the inquiry. We are working on our first USB model, the EnduraPro 104, and should have that available in the near future. We plan to offer USB models of most of our keyboards eventually.
So you might try pckeyboard.com if you want a PS/2 new issue model M, or wait a while for their USB 104 buckling spring. I'm personally waiting for the 101 key USB model M, I hate windows keys. I have enough PS/2 Model Ms from the thrift store to last me until them.
Exactly. It's a made up "disease" to medicalize personality traits that they want to beat out of society, i.e. it's a device to make non-nerds feel better about themselves.
My point was that probably billions of fertilized eggs never implant every year, yet the ludicrous assertion of the pro-lifers is that a fertilized egg is a human being, yet somehow a sperm and unfertilized egg aren't.
They make no attempt to ban birth control drugs, even though if you consider life to begin at fertilization, birth control drugs are murdering untold millions, the largest genocide ever.
You can believe whatever you want to believe about when life begins. It becomes my business when one trys to pass half-assed laws based on a flawed theory of life.
So life would somehow be magically better if employers were forced to pay workers more than the market dictates?
You think companies are offshoring now? Just imagine a world where they were forced to pay IT workers 3 times what they are worth! You'll see each and every IT job go to a country with more rational labor laws.
Not only do we get to see the movie in HD, we can see the filming of the movie also in HD, and from different camera angles.
Wow, it would be cool to see how they make those movies about the filming of the movies too. They could have commentary on the editing decisions that went into the "making of.." part.
Your "common sense" is not too common when it comes to most Java apps I have ever attempted to use.
There are two possible conclusions. Either all Java developers are idiots, too stupid to learn a real language, or these are important rules to nail down before they become problems. Since the former obviously isn't true, it must be the latter.
American Idol has about 26 million viewers. If each of those TV sets consumes 100 watts, then that's 2.6 million kwh per week. Assuming 25 new episodes per season, that's 65 million kwh, not even counting the broadcast side of things.
That's about 38,000 barrels of oil per year for American Idol.
My point isn't that we should get rid of that stupid show, my point is a lot of things use a lot of energy (a hell of a lot more energy than a few CPU seconds uses). So what?
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The various media concerns are trying to get the TV/DVD player/whatever to be Bob, while casting the consumer in the role of Carol. That's what all the fuss is about.
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Yep, but no cryptographic system has been created that can stand up to Carol attacking Bob with a soldering iron and screwdrivers.
Doesn't matter if Bob is human or machine either.
Good call.
My point was that they could have done it on 9/11 and they deliberately didn't.
i believe my friends at Apple would say... "you're welcome"
Yeah, that's exactly the sort of condescending asshole thing they would say.
There was plenty of time to shoot down planes on 9/11 and yet fighters weren't scrambled until 40 minutes later, and then only flew near at 25% of their maximum speed.
So, forgive me if I wouldn't trust the military to take prompt action.
Downloading is illegal, and there have been several cases -- including an earlier part of the Naspter litigation -- that have held so.
Could you cite them? What's the legal standard? If I buy a Tivo that violated the GPL, am I committing infringement? If I buy a computer from a computer store that cheated on Windows licensing, I'm guilty of a crime? What about recording something off the radio? What if the radio station didn't pay their licensing?
All those are cases of the person distributing the copyrighted work in an infringing manner, but I can't see the recipient being held liable.
And also, under Sony, a technology need only be potentially capable of substantial noninfringing uses.
Thanks for clarifying this.
Actually this situation is more similar to the MP3.com defense. MP3.com was sued over "beam-it" a service where you could insert a music CD into your drive, the software would verify which CD it was, then offer you the MP3s to download from MP3.com.
The court ruled that MP3.com was illegally distributing the MP3s, even though the people they sent them to had verified they had the physical CD.
Now, this confirms one part of the parent poster's argument, that the distribution side is illegal, even if you distribute to someone who owns a copy.
It doesn't specifically speak to the downloader's side of things, and that is still a gray area, as far as I know there are no precedents considering downloading copies of something you already own.
In fact there are very few cases involving downloading period. It's considered a much harder legal case to prove, and the music and movie industries have instead preferred to go after people uploading work they own, since that is pretty clear cut infringement under current case law. The way most of these networks are designed downloaders are also uploaders, so why try to prove the harder thing when the easier thing is almost always present?
The Napster defense was that there was no music on their servers, that they were merely an indexing service, like google. Napster should have won in my opinion, as this is a lot stronger case than MP3.com's. But they didn't win, and ruled that since their service had very little non-infringing use, they were committing contributory infringement.
This is why many poeple attempt to stress the non-infringing uses of technologies like bittorrent, because that was a key factor in determining the napster case.
Terrorism - the systematic use of fear, especially as a means of coercion.
SPEWS attempts to use fear of being blacklisted to coerce people to change ISP, sue their ISP, or otherwise bend to their will. They are the very definition of terrorist.
Yeah, like the Spamhaus top 10 spamming ISP list has helped.
And I think my sig speaks for itself when it comes to the terrorist methods of the spews blocklist.
The point is, we aren't going to solve spam by putting pressure on large ISPs using technical means.
My mistake, I thought he was referring to Gran Turismo and GTA... I agree with the other post though, I think the point is still valid, Carmageddon 2 rocks. :)
I said it was a web poll all along.
You must not understand how kids get diagnosed with mental disorders. Their parents say they have it, and the doctor goes along with it. Who is the doctor to say the kid doesn't have the symptoms? The parent is around the kid a whole lot more.
So you can see how a "disorder" that have diagnostic criteria so broad that 76% of the people polled (yes, in an unscientific web poll) say they have it, can cause a huge damage to society, and can represent a major threat to the geek/nerd way of life.
Gran Turismo 1 was the end all of racing games apparently as GT2, GT3, and now GT4 (and various other similar racing variants)
Carmageddon 2 was better in a lot of ways than GTA3, at least the driving aspect of it.
It was a poll on kuro5hin.
From pckeyboard.com, sellers of modern model M clones with buckling spring technology:
Thanks very much for the inquiry. We are working on our first USB model, the EnduraPro 104, and should have that available in the near future. We plan to offer USB models of most of our keyboards eventually.
So you might try pckeyboard.com if you want a PS/2 new issue model M, or wait a while for their USB 104 buckling spring. I'm personally waiting for the 101 key USB model M, I hate windows keys. I have enough PS/2 Model Ms from the thrift store to last me until them.
Sure, mild autism can exist. When 76% of kuro5hin says they have Aspergers, the diagnostic criteria are WAY too broad.
Exactly. It's a made up "disease" to medicalize personality traits that they want to beat out of society, i.e. it's a device to make non-nerds feel better about themselves.
And by banning the sale, collection, and trade of any Nazi historical items? That sure sounds like denying the past to me.
My point was that probably billions of fertilized eggs never implant every year, yet the ludicrous assertion of the pro-lifers is that a fertilized egg is a human being, yet somehow a sperm and unfertilized egg aren't.
They make no attempt to ban birth control drugs, even though if you consider life to begin at fertilization, birth control drugs are murdering untold millions, the largest genocide ever.
You can believe whatever you want to believe about when life begins. It becomes my business when one trys to pass half-assed laws based on a flawed theory of life.
You must not be from America! Good Conservative science tells us that no fertilized egg ever dies, since that's when life begins!
Which is the same as companies colluding to control the prices of the commodities they sell, or Microsoft using bundling to destroy competition.
Yeah, I can make up "syndromes" too that describe how millions of people are.
Aspergers is a fabrication. They took geek stereotypes and are trying to call it a disease. Don't buy into the "medicalization of personality".
So life would somehow be magically better if employers were forced to pay workers more than the market dictates?
You think companies are offshoring now? Just imagine a world where they were forced to pay IT workers 3 times what they are worth! You'll see each and every IT job go to a country with more rational labor laws.
Not only do we get to see the movie in HD, we can see the filming of the movie also in HD, and from different camera angles.
Wow, it would be cool to see how they make those movies about the filming of the movies too. They could have commentary on the editing decisions that went into the "making of.." part.
Your "common sense" is not too common when it comes to most Java apps I have ever attempted to use.
There are two possible conclusions. Either all Java developers are idiots, too stupid to learn a real language, or these are important rules to nail down before they become problems. Since the former obviously isn't true, it must be the latter.
That's not insightful, it's stupid.
American Idol has about 26 million viewers. If each of those TV sets consumes 100 watts, then that's 2.6 million kwh per week. Assuming 25 new episodes per season, that's 65 million kwh, not even counting the broadcast side of things.
That's about 38,000 barrels of oil per year for American Idol.
My point isn't that we should get rid of that stupid show, my point is a lot of things use a lot of energy (a hell of a lot more energy than a few CPU seconds uses). So what?