I know in my last apartment that from my sofa I could see three separate unprotected networks *AND* my protected one.
Oftentimes (the way the nic drivers for my card worked) would cause my system to prefer the stronger signal, so I would waft onto one of the other networks. I was only free from the other nets when I logged into each one as admin (they were broadcasting the name "linksys" and had left the original admin accounts untouched) and add my MAC address to the deny list.
So, the question then becomes, when I was using their networks, was it because I was intruding onto their network, or because their network was intruding into my home?
I mean, at what point (other than logging into their WAP as "admin":) ) does using these networks constitute a crime? Isn't it incumbent upon the owner of said network to secure it? If I leave a set of tools on my front step and it disappears, then I see my neighbor with it, just how mad can I be for having left it out for anyone to walk off with?
I am indeed on the market in Atlanta right now, but am having little luck. I'm a little fristrated, I guess.
i worked on nthat resume for a few days, taking hints from samples all over the 'net. I wanted something that had my previous employers' views that I had paper to back up, and i had seen someone else do something similar.
i also shaved 7 pages down to those three, and it gets mixed reactions, beleive it or not. Some say it's a great eye-catcher, and others say it's too busy. Still other say it doesn't say anything and others say it's more than adequate.
The biggest gripes i have are: (in no particular order)
1. Asking for X years experience in anything that has only been around for (X - 5) years.
2. Being asked to reformat (and/or having my resume reformatted for me without my knowledge)
3. looking for 45 lines of experience/skills for a sysadmin position that will add users (true story)
4. Advertising for a Sr. level admin with 5+ yrs experience and a programming language and only offering 30-40k...I could've finished my degree and become a teacher for that.:-/
>There are several things that will cause me to put someone in the 'do not hire' pile - here's a short list:
> * Generic resumes. You clearly don't care enough about my company to research us and make sure your resume fits the job.
That's pretty damned arrogant, don't you think? My job is to show you what I have done (i.e. my achievemnets), not what I have done applies to your company. If you think I'm going to write a new resume for every job I apply for, that's completely unrealistic.
I got my yahoo account when many people still hadn't gotten on the Internet. I certainly don't want job correspondence coming into my office email, and my cable ISP has lost mail for me before. I tell Yahoo! not to send me my bulk mail when I POP the system, and my SPAM is at about two pieces a week...several problems solved in one fell swoop.
These are not *FREE* services anymore (I pay of rPOP access), and many of us want a permanent email address where we can always be reached. Yahoo solves so many of those problems in so many ways.
Drop the email bigotry...for many of us, it's the only viable option.
>Maybe it needs root to run.
Unless you're a systems programmer, you don't need root to run. If you do, it is incumbent upon the administrator to give you ways to run your application with root privileges, yet in a sandbox. Primarily, if you've forgotten some of the basics like validity checking against input to a buffer, then whacko! buffer overrun, and someone gets to run something as root. In this scenario, you may not be the problem, but you allowed for it simply because I gave you root privileges. If I sandbox you, your programming mistake doesn't send all our customers' financial, medical, credit card (what have you) data out the front door and open our company up to lawsuit and the loss of one (but more likely both) of our jobs.
In the long run, root level access is given very seldom for very real reasons. If you had taken the time to learn what those circumstances were and began to program around issues rather than trying to barrel right through them with root access (thus leaving your company and your job in extreme jeopardy) you would know that.
The information, tone, and tenor of your post clearly defines to me that you are one of those developers that won't get root access without a sadbox.
(and yes, I have developers with root access on production machines.....they don't abuse it)
>> Makes me kind of glad I got a Mac
That's all fine and dandy, but had you been following the news more closely, you'd note that Apple is a target of SCO as well.
Your assertion that we should move SCO boxen to Linux ASAP is well founded, and easily done. Congrats on a great idea. I've done so myself. However, moving AIX boxen to Linux is a little more problematic.
For instance, my *SMALLEST* AIX machine has 12 processors and 6GB of RAM. This has FibreChannel connections back to my Shark which has untol Terabytes of capacity potential. Unfortunately, and I expect flames here, it is near on impossible to replace large systems (CLinical, finacial, etc.) with Linux boxes "just because SCO is an idiot".
Most clinical systems won't write for Linux for several reasons...the largest of which is that Intel platforms are substandard platforms for the large environment. When you move into our larger systems which contain 32 processors and GIGS of RAM, LPAR technology and many of the most recent advancements available to the platform, it is truly impossible to replace AIX with Linux. Linux is incapable (still) of handling the types of workloads our machines see every day, and incapable of scaling to 32 processors and exorbitant amounts of RAM.
While many of us would love to be unencumbered by such rantings as what SCO has thrown into the public fodder pit, it is completely impractical for Linux running on Intel. As far as I am apprised, Linux just isn't ready for primetime on RS6000 either.
The choice for high-end AIX admins is simple: Stay where we are, and let IBM squash SCO like a bug.
Here in the state of Louisiana, it is illegal for anyone to ask for your SSN for any reason in public commerce. It even extends to your driver's license which, here, you can choose to not have your SSN diplayed. All it takes is a stolen name and SSN to have a stolen identity.
It depends on what you term an accomplishment. There are those in my graduating class in high school (1985) That still have no degree, but have not left the home town, knocked up some little girl, and are stuck in some $8/hr job going nowhere. These were the "Most likely to" crowd, and I find sweet justice in that.
As for me, I've worked for Thomson Investments/Learning/Financial/International, 3Com, and a few other large holding companies with salaries ranging from 65 to 100+k. I don't know about you, but I call that an accomplishment.
As for the body-part reference, it was unneccessary and uncalled for.
My assessment of arrogance is based on young people with no experience demanding (arrogantly) 4th or 5th year experience salaries with no experience whatsoever. I've had programmers come in to us who couldn't troubleshoot their own PC. They could program the hell out of their language of expertise, but didn't even know their own machine. I find that sad. I find that wrong. They will *NEVER* work here.
I have consulted the local university on several occasions as to what we here in the industry are looking for, and they have made significant changes to their program based on some of my recommendations. I have worked on their machines for them in a consultancy basis. I have trained their employees on more than one occasion in UNIX. Why do I say all this? It illustrates the impropriety. They trust me to come in and train their employees/staff/stufdents, but I can't work there for lack of a degree.
It's situations like that that make no sense and exacerbate the animosity toward this situation you see throughout this thread.
Well, what I was attempting to point out was that I've actually had college (soon-to-be) grads coming in asking for 75k and up. They look at you crazy when you tell them nicely, for their own good, that they are not worth that kind of money and should relax on their salary requirements, get in with a good company and sit there for awhile to gain time/maturity and job equity before asking that kind of money.
The area I'm referring to is a depressed economy state (one of the bottom 5) that sees 70k as the "high-end" salary range.
I don't mean to gripe about your degree, note that I went to college for 4 years myself. But I've seen mere children with skill that would shame us all. The main ATM/VoIP programmer for 3Com is 17 years old! (was?) Also note that I've been into this for 12 years. I was running a shop when the dot-com boom had not happened yet. I am *not* a programmer, however (does shell count?) and don't intend to be...if I got the urge to be a programmer, the first place I would go is college.
As for systems design/programming, unless your dad worked for JPL or CISCO or something, no...you definitely need college to understand and be appropriately trained in the principles involved.
I'm glad you've found significant succeess. Kudos.
I have found as a hiring manager that people who have degrees that come in to see me are some of the most arrogant people I have to deal with. I have taken to (unless I see something really exciting in the experience column) not hiring degreed individuals at all.
The Linux folks and the folks who worked their way "up the ranks" have a considerably more realistic view of the salaray world, the cost of living world, personal interaction as a team member/player, etc. People who have taken the college route tend to come in expecting certain things just because they know spanish and philosphy...like they're entitled to something even if their experience level is nil.
To me, the most valuable employees intern or work in the industry, working their way through a PC shop during high school/college, find that the money's good there and begin to specialize in a personal interest. (networking, UNIX, etc.) By then, their salaries are in the mid 30's and they are gaining real expertise in major areas. They then take some classes and maybe gain a certification or two and forge a nice path for themselves (and by now their family) in the industry. Finally, they are in the 50-60k range and then realize.."You know...I need to have a degree." When they realize this, they typically do college in their spare time and excel at it. It takes them a bit longer to do it, but going to college when you're an adult, and you actually have money to live on is considerably more rewarding. *THESE* have been my best employees.
I must say though, as you already may have guessed, I'm a bit biased. I've been in the PC industry (and subsequently the UNIX industry) for nearly 12 years...and my degree is complete next December.
The way I read it, it seems to say that you cannot distribute their code with any GPL or LGPL project in whole or in part. Did I miss a section or a memo?
You know, I think there's nothing significant to worry about. This is the company that advertises for jobs, then summarily ignores resumes from candidates with 12 years in the industry:7 of them in UNIX (3 in AIX alone!!). Of the three times a recruiter has submitted me, IBM has even answered once. Of the two times I have submitted myself directly, they've answered not at all. In the instances they've not answered, I've been handed positions from the likes of 3Com, Thomson Financial, etc. If they can't even get the hiring process right, what makes you think the servers they're proposing will actually work as advertised?
More importantly,
As a member of the 3Com staff, I assure you we had absolutely *NOTHING* to do with this if it's for real. We spun Palm off about 4 months ago (PALM) versus our own stock (COMS). That explains why our stock is $16 and PALM's is $51. Two separate companies...
You *can't* be serious...
UNIX was running around the beaches of computerdom in the late 60's to early 70's with all the above features included.
Sheesh....kids these days.....
That would be nice if you could ever get UUNET security to reply to you. In my experience UUNET has traditionally not answered claims of security violations in a timely manner.
Ummm....
At 3Com we've already deployed this technology in Korea and they can't get enough of it. Our first 3G trials have T-1 speeds to the pocket and we anticipate up to 10MB shortly with possibilities in the 50 or so MB range. While most are correct in that the US has some internal FCC weirdness to overcome before rollout, 3G is here and our labs are progressing to new speeds every day. The entire 2G revolution and "2.5G" revolution (all CDMA, BTW) were researched and deployed by 3Com first. We currently hold the largest number of CDMA terminations in he world, are the largest provider of "2.5G" implementation, and are the first to run 3G (wherever we choose to run it...*sigh*). Head's up! Cool stuff coming, just gotta wade through Washington red tape first!
--Q
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I know in my last apartment that from my sofa I could see three separate unprotected networks *AND* my protected one.
:) ) does using these networks constitute a crime? Isn't it incumbent upon the owner of said network to secure it? If I leave a set of tools on my front step and it disappears, then I see my neighbor with it, just how mad can I be for having left it out for anyone to walk off with?
Oftentimes (the way the nic drivers for my card worked) would cause my system to prefer the stronger signal, so I would waft onto one of the other networks. I was only free from the other nets when I logged into each one as admin (they were broadcasting the name "linksys" and had left the original admin accounts untouched) and add my MAC address to the deny list.
So, the question then becomes, when I was using their networks, was it because I was intruding onto their network, or because their network was intruding into my home?
I mean, at what point (other than logging into their WAP as "admin"
Don't click on this moron's link. It grabs hold of your computer and is a bitch to close down.
I just checked your website. You're not going to beleive this...I *SO* play the bass!! Email me offline. :-)
Thanks for the kind words.
:-/
I am indeed on the market in Atlanta right now, but am having little luck. I'm a little fristrated, I guess.
i worked on nthat resume for a few days, taking hints from samples all over the 'net. I wanted something that had my previous employers' views that I had paper to back up, and i had seen someone else do something similar.
i also shaved 7 pages down to those three, and it gets mixed reactions, beleive it or not. Some say it's a great eye-catcher, and others say it's too busy. Still other say it doesn't say anything and others say it's more than adequate.
The biggest gripes i have are: (in no particular order)
1. Asking for X years experience in anything that has only been around for (X - 5) years.
2. Being asked to reformat (and/or having my resume reformatted for me without my knowledge)
3. looking for 45 lines of experience/skills for a sysadmin position that will add users (true story)
4. Advertising for a Sr. level admin with 5+ yrs experience and a programming language and only offering 30-40k...I could've finished my degree and become a teacher for that.
thanks again.
>There are several things that will cause me to put someone in the 'do not hire' pile - here's a short list:
> * Generic resumes. You clearly don't care enough about my company to research us and make sure your resume fits the job.
That's pretty damned arrogant, don't you think? My job is to show you what I have done (i.e. my achievemnets), not what I have done applies to your company. If you think I'm going to write a new resume for every job I apply for, that's completely unrealistic.
I got my yahoo account when many people still hadn't gotten on the Internet. I certainly don't want job correspondence coming into my office email, and my cable ISP has lost mail for me before. I tell Yahoo! not to send me my bulk mail when I POP the system, and my SPAM is at about two pieces a week...several problems solved in one fell swoop.
These are not *FREE* services anymore (I pay of rPOP access), and many of us want a permanent email address where we can always be reached. Yahoo solves so many of those problems in so many ways.
Drop the email bigotry...for many of us, it's the only viable option.
>Maybe it needs root to run. Unless you're a systems programmer, you don't need root to run. If you do, it is incumbent upon the administrator to give you ways to run your application with root privileges, yet in a sandbox. Primarily, if you've forgotten some of the basics like validity checking against input to a buffer, then whacko! buffer overrun, and someone gets to run something as root. In this scenario, you may not be the problem, but you allowed for it simply because I gave you root privileges. If I sandbox you, your programming mistake doesn't send all our customers' financial, medical, credit card (what have you) data out the front door and open our company up to lawsuit and the loss of one (but more likely both) of our jobs. In the long run, root level access is given very seldom for very real reasons. If you had taken the time to learn what those circumstances were and began to program around issues rather than trying to barrel right through them with root access (thus leaving your company and your job in extreme jeopardy) you would know that. The information, tone, and tenor of your post clearly defines to me that you are one of those developers that won't get root access without a sadbox. (and yes, I have developers with root access on production machines.....they don't abuse it)
>> Makes me kind of glad I got a Mac That's all fine and dandy, but had you been following the news more closely, you'd note that Apple is a target of SCO as well.
Your assertion that we should move SCO boxen to Linux ASAP is well founded, and easily done. Congrats on a great idea. I've done so myself. However, moving AIX boxen to Linux is a little more problematic. For instance, my *SMALLEST* AIX machine has 12 processors and 6GB of RAM. This has FibreChannel connections back to my Shark which has untol Terabytes of capacity potential. Unfortunately, and I expect flames here, it is near on impossible to replace large systems (CLinical, finacial, etc.) with Linux boxes "just because SCO is an idiot". Most clinical systems won't write for Linux for several reasons...the largest of which is that Intel platforms are substandard platforms for the large environment. When you move into our larger systems which contain 32 processors and GIGS of RAM, LPAR technology and many of the most recent advancements available to the platform, it is truly impossible to replace AIX with Linux. Linux is incapable (still) of handling the types of workloads our machines see every day, and incapable of scaling to 32 processors and exorbitant amounts of RAM. While many of us would love to be unencumbered by such rantings as what SCO has thrown into the public fodder pit, it is completely impractical for Linux running on Intel. As far as I am apprised, Linux just isn't ready for primetime on RS6000 either. The choice for high-end AIX admins is simple: Stay where we are, and let IBM squash SCO like a bug.
Allright Bill, get off Slashdot and go back to getting your next Windows project finished, k? sheesh...
Here in the state of Louisiana, it is illegal for anyone to ask for your SSN for any reason in public commerce. It even extends to your driver's license which, here, you can choose to not have your SSN diplayed. All it takes is a stolen name and SSN to have a stolen identity.
Someone should challenge this one.
--Q
http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0012 .1/1518.html
Note that the exact phraseology is "Solaris is our implementation of Linux" which is just absurd. The point was for humor's sake, anyhow.
--JMS
So then why does Sun's CEO keep saying that Solaris *IS* Linux. Can somebody get this right for once?
--q
In other words, potentially 90% of the people reading this will be looking for work.
Greeeeeeat idea.
No thanks, IBM.
--Q
Last I heard, DTV was owned by Echostar now anyways. I don't see the "us" vs "them" thing here...
--JMS
It depends on what you term an accomplishment. There are those in my graduating class in high school (1985) That still have no degree, but have not left the home town, knocked up some little girl, and are stuck in some $8/hr job going nowhere. These were the "Most likely to" crowd, and I find sweet justice in that.
As for me, I've worked for Thomson Investments/Learning/Financial/International, 3Com, and a few other large holding companies with salaries ranging from 65 to 100+k. I don't know about you, but I call that an accomplishment.
As for the body-part reference, it was unneccessary and uncalled for.
My assessment of arrogance is based on young people with no experience demanding (arrogantly) 4th or 5th year experience salaries with no experience whatsoever. I've had programmers come in to us who couldn't troubleshoot their own PC. They could program the hell out of their language of expertise, but didn't even know their own machine. I find that sad. I find that wrong. They will *NEVER* work here.
I have consulted the local university on several occasions as to what we here in the industry are looking for, and they have made significant changes to their program based on some of my recommendations. I have worked on their machines for them in a consultancy basis. I have trained their employees on more than one occasion in UNIX. Why do I say all this? It illustrates the impropriety. They trust me to come in and train their employees/staff/stufdents, but I can't work there for lack of a degree.
It's situations like that that make no sense and exacerbate the animosity toward this situation you see throughout this thread.
--Q
Well, what I was attempting to point out was that I've actually had college (soon-to-be) grads coming in asking for 75k and up. They look at you crazy when you tell them nicely, for their own good, that they are not worth that kind of money and should relax on their salary requirements, get in with a good company and sit there for awhile to gain time/maturity and job equity before asking that kind of money.
The area I'm referring to is a depressed economy state (one of the bottom 5) that sees 70k as the "high-end" salary range.
I don't mean to gripe about your degree, note that I went to college for 4 years myself. But I've seen mere children with skill that would shame us all. The main ATM/VoIP programmer for 3Com is 17 years old! (was?) Also note that I've been into this for 12 years. I was running a shop when the dot-com boom had not happened yet. I am *not* a programmer, however (does shell count?) and don't intend to be...if I got the urge to be a programmer, the first place I would go is college.
As for systems design/programming, unless your dad worked for JPL or CISCO or something, no...you definitely need college to understand and be appropriately trained in the principles involved.
--Q
I'm glad you've found significant succeess. Kudos.
I have found as a hiring manager that people who have degrees that come in to see me are some of the most arrogant people I have to deal with. I have taken to (unless I see something really exciting in the experience column) not hiring degreed individuals at all.
The Linux folks and the folks who worked their way "up the ranks" have a considerably more realistic view of the salaray world, the cost of living world, personal interaction as a team member/player, etc. People who have taken the college route tend to come in expecting certain things just because they know spanish and philosphy...like they're entitled to something even if their experience level is nil.
To me, the most valuable employees intern or work in the industry, working their way through a PC shop during high school/college, find that the money's good there and begin to specialize in a personal interest. (networking, UNIX, etc.) By then, their salaries are in the mid 30's and they are gaining real expertise in major areas. They then take some classes and maybe gain a certification or two and forge a nice path for themselves (and by now their family) in the industry. Finally, they are in the 50-60k range and then realize.."You know...I need to have a degree." When they realize this, they typically do college in their spare time and excel at it. It takes them a bit longer to do it, but going to college when you're an adult, and you actually have money to live on is considerably more rewarding. *THESE* have been my best employees.
I must say though, as you already may have guessed, I'm a bit biased. I've been in the PC industry (and subsequently the UNIX industry) for nearly 12 years...and my degree is complete next December.
--Questy
http://www.captured.com
The way I read it, it seems to say that you cannot distribute their code with any GPL or LGPL project in whole or in part. Did I miss a section or a memo?
You know, I think there's nothing significant to worry about. This is the company that advertises for jobs, then summarily ignores resumes from candidates with 12 years in the industry:7 of them in UNIX (3 in AIX alone!!). Of the three times a recruiter has submitted me, IBM has even answered once. Of the two times I have submitted myself directly, they've answered not at all. In the instances they've not answered, I've been handed positions from the likes of 3Com, Thomson Financial, etc. If they can't even get the hiring process right, what makes you think the servers they're proposing will actually work as advertised?
More importantly, As a member of the 3Com staff, I assure you we had absolutely *NOTHING* to do with this if it's for real. We spun Palm off about 4 months ago (PALM) versus our own stock (COMS). That explains why our stock is $16 and PALM's is $51. Two separate companies...
You *can't* be serious... UNIX was running around the beaches of computerdom in the late 60's to early 70's with all the above features included. Sheesh....kids these days.....
Apparently our fine feathered friend is either not a programmer or is a programmer without a soul!
That would be nice if you could ever get UUNET security to reply to you. In my experience UUNET has traditionally not answered claims of security violations in a timely manner.
Ummm.... At 3Com we've already deployed this technology in Korea and they can't get enough of it. Our first 3G trials have T-1 speeds to the pocket and we anticipate up to 10MB shortly with possibilities in the 50 or so MB range. While most are correct in that the US has some internal FCC weirdness to overcome before rollout, 3G is here and our labs are progressing to new speeds every day. The entire 2G revolution and "2.5G" revolution (all CDMA, BTW) were researched and deployed by 3Com first. We currently hold the largest number of CDMA terminations in he world, are the largest provider of "2.5G" implementation, and are the first to run 3G (wherever we choose to run it...*sigh*). Head's up! Cool stuff coming, just gotta wade through Washington red tape first! --Q