without really managing to convince me of what is so revolutionary about them
I don't think that would be the point. Did the book convince you that they were a good idea though, and did it provide examples of good use, or specifics about what technology web services is supposed to replace or extend ? Would you be more likely to use them having read this book ?
Does anybody know how noisy (or not) these little PCs are ?
It also seems to me that they would be a lot more useful to many folks if they had 802.11 wireless networking. Their two featured models (p3 and p4) don't have spare PCI slots, nor do they have a PCMCIA slot (as far as I can see anyway) although I guess you could add it using the usb port. Perhaps an IRDA port would be good also ?
Who said nobody else could complain ? I believe I was simply pointing out that there are far more oppresive bandwidth limitations in place for some users.
We already have two. They're called ASCII and HTML.
Well that's a clever answer, but not a useful one IMO. And moreover, you've specified a content type, not a reader.
I agree with the original poster. An open source reader that supports the same kind of functionality as, for example, the MS reader would be good. So, a library, variable size fonts, bookmarks, automatic repagination, text-to-speech etc. And cross platform of course, which probably means a C/C++ program to avoid issues with Java runtimes etc. and would hopefully keep the footprint small (required for Palm, WinCE etc).
As for formats, I would have thought XML might be a way to go, but I'm not sure how that would work for embedded images or other multimedia content.
That said, for all I know, such an ebook reader might exist. Does anybody know of one ?
Sorry but i'd rather stay on my own software testing track and have enough $ to buy my own car.
Sure i work for MSFT but at least i can afford to drive a car, take girls out to eat, and go to the casinoes.
Don't mean to be discrimenatorie but it's just how i feel. I'd rather spend time working towards a nice professional job that my kid will look up to than being a grad student (TA) my hole life.
Uh-huh. I can see it now...
"Geeez dad, please don't wear that Microsoft shirt when you pick me up from school. And I think I'll find somebody literate to help with my spelling...."
Here in the World's bottom (New Zealand) my download limit is 1GB per MONTH. It's a serious pain... I can get 8Mbit with ADSL as I live just 300 metres from the local exchange, which means I can use up my entire month's bandwidth in literally a few minutes. Not funny.
Errr, well I'm the original poster, and I'm in New Zealand - Wellington actually. It's now 4.43pm and they're playing international 7s rugby at the stadium. I couldn't get tickets so I'm off to an outdoor pub with a big screen. It's 24 degrees and sunny, for all your poor northern hemisphere chaps stuck in winter;-)
According to The Register these guys are not responsible for Slammer, but for some other little-known worm. The article also mentions the arrest of one other person in the USA somewhere.
it's an antique technology...
Yeah, but so is the wheel. Doesn't make it any less useful. Are Ford planning to stop putting wheels on cars just because it's old technology ?
I would suspect that the prime motivation for a project like this is simply the intellectual exercise of it. As a C++ developer "up the wazoo" I would certainly be interested to take part in it, just to see if I could make my bits of it work.
Pragmatically, MS will no doubt have a small army of developers working on NT(XP) tech, and there's no way that an open source project could hope to keep up. I would expect that MS would see this as no more than an amusing side show, and that contrary to some other posters' opinions, MS couldn't care less about this (or similar) projects.
After several years of development, I still can't run any useful software on Wine. I have little doubt that this project will head the same way - interesting, but ultimately no threat to MS's profits.
A Mosque, church, hospital, orphanage, etc with a SAM battery or Radar installation on the roof is a legitimate target and legally (and morally IMO) the guilt for those innocent deaths is on the heads of the person that made it a legitimate target.
Uh-huh. Much better to save the life of one or two American pilots by killing "hundreds or thousands" of civilians.
Hey ! There some oil ! Let's bomb the bastards and put in a puppet administration to get it to us cheaply rather than reduce our fosil fuel needs !
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I can't be certain, but I'm 90% certain that I have internet all over my pants right now.
A little too much internet pr0n maybe ?
without really managing to convince me of what is so revolutionary about them
I don't think that would be the point. Did the book convince you that they were a good idea though, and did it provide examples of good use, or specifics about what technology web services is supposed to replace or extend ? Would you be more likely to use them having read this book ?the one linked in the story doesn't list a price
Yes it does... $1295 US for the base PC (60GB HDD, no OS), plus a bunch of options.We're going to co-locate...
So exactly what does this get me as a developer. No doubt I'm missing the point here, enlighten me somebody...Does anybody know how noisy (or not) these little PCs are ?
It also seems to me that they would be a lot more useful to many folks if they had 802.11 wireless networking. Their two featured models (p3 and p4) don't have spare PCI slots, nor do they have a PCMCIA slot (as far as I can see anyway) although I guess you could add it using the usb port. Perhaps an IRDA port would be good also ?OK, offtopic I know so mod me down if you really feel you have to, but please explain this your signature to me...
(B) + (D) + (B) + (D) = (K) + (&)
??Who said nobody else could complain ? I believe I was simply pointing out that there are far more oppresive bandwidth limitations in place for some users.
and one spellchecker
Well that's a clever answer, but not a useful one IMO. And moreover, you've specified a content type, not a reader.
I agree with the original poster. An open source reader that supports the same kind of functionality as, for example, the MS reader would be good. So, a library, variable size fonts, bookmarks, automatic repagination, text-to-speech etc. And cross platform of course, which probably means a C/C++ program to avoid issues with Java runtimes etc. and would hopefully keep the footprint small (required for Palm, WinCE etc).
As for formats, I would have thought XML might be a way to go, but I'm not sure how that would work for embedded images or other multimedia content.
That said, for all I know, such an ebook reader might exist. Does anybody know of one ?
Sorry but i'd rather stay on my own software testing track and have enough $ to buy my own car.
Sure i work for MSFT but at least i can afford to drive a car, take girls out to eat, and go to the casinoes.
Don't mean to be discrimenatorie but it's just how i feel. I'd rather spend time working towards a nice professional job that my kid will look up to than being a grad student (TA) my hole life.
Uh-huh. I can see it now...
"Geeez dad, please don't wear that Microsoft shirt when you pick me up from school. And I think I'll find somebody literate to help with my spelling...."
Here in the World's bottom (New Zealand) my download limit is 1GB per MONTH. It's a serious pain... I can get 8Mbit with ADSL as I live just 300 metres from the local exchange, which means I can use up my entire month's bandwidth in literally a few minutes. Not funny.
Errr, well I'm the original poster, and I'm in New Zealand - Wellington actually. It's now 4.43pm and they're playing international 7s rugby at the stadium. I couldn't get tickets so I'm off to an outdoor pub with a big screen. It's 24 degrees and sunny, for all your poor northern hemisphere chaps stuck in winter ;-)
New Zealand actually :)
Nah, it's Friday afternoon I-need-one-more-coffee typing :-)
Even Microsoft is trying to directly engage the community at this conference... with a 105mm Howizter.
According to The Register these guys are not responsible for Slammer, but for some other little-known worm. The article also mentions the arrest of one other person in the USA somewhere.
Out of curiosity, did Crapper patent the toilet ?
I would doubt they'll do that until one of the 'small boys' has taken them to court and a precedent has been set.
1. Get patent
2. do { threaten small_sites; } until (court_case_won and legal_precedent_set);
3. Profit from big boys!
it's an antique technology...
Yeah, but so is the wheel. Doesn't make it any less useful. Are Ford planning to stop putting wheels on cars just because it's old technology ?
Well I live in New Zealand, southern hemisphere, so I say it should go down.
Why bother to have a 64-bit processor for anything other than a server
Easy, games.
I would suspect that the prime motivation for a project like this is simply the intellectual exercise of it. As a C++ developer "up the wazoo" I would certainly be interested to take part in it, just to see if I could make my bits of it work.
Pragmatically, MS will no doubt have a small army of developers working on NT(XP) tech, and there's no way that an open source project could hope to keep up. I would expect that MS would see this as no more than an amusing side show, and that contrary to some other posters' opinions, MS couldn't care less about this (or similar) projects.
After several years of development, I still can't run any useful software on Wine. I have little doubt that this project will head the same way - interesting, but ultimately no threat to MS's profits.
R.I.P
That'll make a difference. Just the same as people under 21 don't drink and nobody takes drugs.
A Mosque, church, hospital, orphanage, etc with a SAM battery or Radar installation on the roof is a legitimate target and legally (and morally IMO) the guilt for those innocent deaths is on the heads of the person that made it a legitimate target.
Uh-huh. Much better to save the life of one or two American pilots by killing "hundreds or thousands" of civilians.
Hey ! There some oil ! Let's bomb the bastards and put in a puppet administration to get it to us cheaply rather than reduce our fosil fuel needs !