Now I see that, as far as Sony is concerned, this is more like an anti-Sony, Sony-haters convention, with impartiality and lack of prejudice being tossed out of the window, both by posters as well as Moderators.
I think the modern internet term is "circlejerk".
Then again Slashdot always had a bit of circlejerking going on...
Hell, many of them evangelize Microsoft for the same reasons they are criticizing Sony.
Ironically the victim used to be Microsoft - which personally I think is justified to some extend; they are a very powerful company in the PC world and have used said power to crash innovative products from rivals for their own benefit.
Still there was quite a bit of hyperbole and exaggeration whenever MS and it's products was the topic of discussion.
It will create quite a bit of traffic for them for one, they don't even sync trophies in real-time.
Then there are the obvious things, like lost of connection, it would only cause frustration if a save suddenly doesn't work just because the train the player was in entered a tunnel - not to mention not all NGP models have 3G; heck there is no guarantee every PS3 has a connection to the Internet.
Just playing devil's advocate to the negative nancys here.:)
PS: It's quite amusing to see so many people** think that Sony is hell bent out to get them.
We could standardize the materials and construction... it would fix a lot of problems include the mass of the apparatus interfering with measurement - we can account for that in the calibration.
But it seems they want a very exact way to determine 1kg of mass, and I suppose there will be issues with tolerances in crafting.
Although I don't really see my suggestion as being any worst than the current way of doing things, a decaying physical standard sample.:x
No need to measure it to get a numerical value. Just need to have a repeatable way to determine a specific force is being applied.
Using this force, they calibrate (actually come to think of it you can just calculate it) the radius and angular velocity of the centrifuge so the specific force will register when 1 kg of mass is in the centrifuge.
Apple is doing well now for the same reason they had die hard fans even in their worst days.
They make well integrated products.
This time round they had the aptitude to not price themselves out of the market, and have gain much market share and developer support.
Android is trying to repeat Windows success, but price wise they don't really have the advantage at the high end unlike in the PC vs Mac situation of the past.
The poor QC on some Android products is going to hurt them. The stability of certain Android phones leave a lot to be desired. HTC is probably the only ones doing a decent job of it, and well Motorola. Fortunately "Android" isn't a brand name like "Windows", most people probably don't even know they are running Android, and will judge a phone based on it's manufacturer.
But on the developer side, on the other hand... The huge variety of hardware to test against seem to be giving developers a headache, along with extra work trying to get their apps to run decently. Why they have so much problems I have no idea - things seem OK on Windows which hardware is almost as diverse.
Another issue I have with Android is the OS updates...
Anyhow, while many here may despise Apple's control freak tendencies, it is currently giving them the advantage when it comes to smoothness of user experience due to tight integration and control they have over their phones. This will no doubt continue to help Apple's reputation.
I know the unit of force is related to mass, but think about it this way, if we had a method of measuring a standard force (don't define it in newtons but by the spec of the measuring equipment - a poor example = a piece of standardized string that always breaks at a certain tension).
Put a piece of mass in a centrifuge of fixed radius and angular velocity, add/remove mass until the force measuring device (determined by it's construction) until it register a certain force.
Calibrate it for 1kg by adjusting it radius and velocity.
We now have a repeatable way to determine 1kg of mass.
Does putting people down make you feel better or something. You might want to have your "issues" looked at, acknowledging you have a problem is the first step to recovery.:)
Anyway the point was we can measure/detect force relatively accurately no? Heck with the units.
Accelerate a piece of mass in a centrifuge and have it spin at a fixed angular velocity, adjust mass until you get the right reactive force (preventing the mass from flying off).
Pick the force and acceleration to define standard mass.
I wouldn't worry too much about it, I'm sure directors will find new ways to focus the audience's attention - not to mention tricks like the old close up will still work.
This complaint is similar to the one people made when cinema went wide-screen, it took film makers a while to adept, but it's no problem now.
I quite like the new site actually, it's clean and seems less buggy then the old one.
While it had some bugs when it was release, most of them appear to have been fixed.
The only issues I have with it is the mobile version, text is too small, and quite a few rendering glitches (over-lapping text, title of top post getting clipped).
It's Sony. Nintendo doesn't have to worry - it just has to stay out of the way while Sony self-destructs due to internal conflicts, dead-end media formats mandated by other Sony divisions, unrealistic price-points, market-alienating legal maneuvers, and the like.
Nintendo needs to worry about Microsoft: now that Xbox and Kinect are the golden children in Redmond - and seeing how much better Microsoft is in dealing with the global market than either of the Japanese companies are - the next gen could belong to MS. Nintendo has to "open the kimono" a little bit if it wants to continue on the successes of the Wii and the DS.
Yes, yes. I'm sure they will repeat ALL their mistakes they made in the past./rolleyes
When it comes to open-formats they notice no one but a few geeks give a damn - not to mention the same few geeks will probably use the open-standard as a way to hack the system too.
Anyway the point of discussion here is, IMO if you want your handheld platform to survive it's goes to be necessary to integrate it into a phone. Few people like carrying an extra gadget around, they will use whatever device is available to game on i.e. their phone.
The era of standalone handheld consoles might be coming to an end.
Ya, releasing the phone so close to NGP launch is a little weird (not to mention that the PSP is about to be retired), but you can also see it as a "test" run to iron out problems.
And when I said "If nothing goes wrong", I meant nothing goes terribly wrong. That they don't drop the ball and botch it, something that happens with Sony quite a bit, not "hope for perfect circumstances".
IMO it's either integrate you game platform into a phone, or wait for Apple to eat your market share. Few people like carrying an extra gadget around, they will use whatever device is available to game i.e. their phone.
Ya, if you don't help their bottom line at all there is little reason for them to try to appease you.
Simple concept really.
Businesses will use whatever model that manages to bring in money, if ut bring in profit it's a good model, and will stop when it doesn't. That's that.
Oh they are on it already, google search for "Xperia Play".
It will only be a matter of time before a PSP2 phone comes out - given that it uses ARM as well they can reuse the CPU and probably GPU for an Android based phone.
Assuming nothing goes wrong, they can give Apple a run for their money.
Let me put it this way, these consoles work via the razor model.
The consoles are sold at a loss or barely break even with negileable margin. The R&D cost are recover by selling games.
You bought a PSP but no games, you are the worst kind of customer for console makers, you shouldn't be surprise when they make next to no attempt to appease you or your kind.
The alternative model is the PC one where the hardware costs a lot more. Personally I have no preference for either model.
That said I wished Sony was a little more friendly to homebrew - after "other OS" I doubt they have the stomach to try any sort of homebrew feature again though.
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Any PS3 games that will not play on the 360?
Off the top of my head.
Uncharted 2 & 3
God of War 3
Demon Soul
Killzone 2 & 3(upcoming)
Gran Turismo
LittleBigPlanet
Resistence 1 & 2 (I think)
Actually I think the CEO of Sony is very much a lame duck.
Internal politics of other power brokers seem to have a lot of influence.
Actually I don't think people from different divisions of Sony talk to each other much.
Sony seems to be more a group of companies under one name, than a giant mammoth working in sync.
Some of their divisions don't seem to even get along. etc Sony music vs Sony electronics
It appears it has been like this for decades...
Hence I try not to punish one division for the sins of another, because chances are they had nothing to do with it.
Just saying you don't have to be such an ass to a dying man.
It's called respect.
Now I see that, as far as Sony is concerned, this is more like an anti-Sony, Sony-haters convention, with impartiality and lack of prejudice being tossed out of the window, both by posters as well as Moderators.
I think the modern internet term is "circlejerk".
Then again Slashdot always had a bit of circlejerking going on ...
Hell, many of them evangelize Microsoft for the same reasons they are criticizing Sony.
Ironically the victim used to be Microsoft - which personally I think is justified to some extend; they are a very powerful company in the PC world and have used said power to crash innovative products from rivals for their own benefit.
Still there was quite a bit of hyperbole and exaggeration whenever MS and it's products was the topic of discussion.
I really shouldn't feed trolls.
OK why?
Just a hunch.
It will create quite a bit of traffic for them for one, they don't even sync trophies in real-time.
Then there are the obvious things, like lost of connection, it would only cause frustration if a save suddenly doesn't work just because the train the player was in entered a tunnel - not to mention not all NGP models have 3G; heck there is no guarantee every PS3 has a connection to the Internet.
Just playing devil's advocate to the negative nancys here. :)
PS: It's quite amusing to see so many people** think that Sony is hell bent out to get them.
**/fanboys/astrosurfers
Sony bashers with conspiracy theories are the first to arrival to the thread.
It's DRM !!!1!!
They will force you to store in the cloud!!!1!!1one!!
etc.
Could we save our outrage after they we get clear confirmation as to what exactly Sony plans to do?
Personally I really doubt Sony will force you to store your save games in the cloud. LOL
We could standardize the materials and construction ... it would fix a lot of problems include the mass of the apparatus interfering with measurement - we can account for that in the calibration.
But it seems they want a very exact way to determine 1kg of mass, and I suppose there will be issues with tolerances in crafting.
Although I don't really see my suggestion as being any worst than the current way of doing things, a decaying physical standard sample. :x
I must be communicating this wrong. :/
No need to measure it to get a numerical value. Just need to have a repeatable way to determine a specific force is being applied.
Using this force, they calibrate (actually come to think of it you can just calculate it) the radius and angular velocity of the centrifuge so the specific force will register when 1 kg of mass is in the centrifuge.
Apple is doing well now for the same reason they had die hard fans even in their worst days.
They make well integrated products.
This time round they had the aptitude to not price themselves out of the market, and have gain much market share and developer support.
Android is trying to repeat Windows success, but price wise they don't really have the advantage at the high end unlike in the PC vs Mac situation of the past.
The poor QC on some Android products is going to hurt them.
The stability of certain Android phones leave a lot to be desired. HTC is probably the only ones doing a decent job of it, and well Motorola.
Fortunately "Android" isn't a brand name like "Windows", most people probably don't even know they are running Android, and will judge a phone based on it's manufacturer.
But on the developer side, on the other hand...
The huge variety of hardware to test against seem to be giving developers a headache, along with extra work trying to get their apps to run decently.
Why they have so much problems I have no idea - things seem OK on Windows which hardware is almost as diverse.
Another issue I have with Android is the OS updates...
Anyhow, while many here may despise Apple's control freak tendencies, it is currently giving them the advantage when it comes to smoothness of user experience due to tight integration and control they have over their phones.
This will no doubt continue to help Apple's reputation.
Still it's kind of a shitty thing to do when the guy is clearly in bad health enough that he got to take long medical leave.
Jobs runs a company that makes electronics products. It's not as if he a mass murder or something that he deserve this kind of treatment.
Thanks for not trolling me like the AC. :)
I know the unit of force is related to mass, but think about it this way, if we had a method of measuring a standard force (don't define it in newtons but by the spec of the measuring equipment - a poor example = a piece of standardized string that always breaks at a certain tension).
Put a piece of mass in a centrifuge of fixed radius and angular velocity, add/remove mass until the force measuring device (determined by it's construction) until it register a certain force.
Calibrate it for 1kg by adjusting it radius and velocity.
We now have a repeatable way to determine 1kg of mass.
Wow troll harder.
Does putting people down make you feel better or something. You might want to have your "issues" looked at, acknowledging you have a problem is the first step to recovery. :)
Anyway the point was we can measure/detect force relatively accurately no? Heck with the units.
Accelerate a piece of mass in a centrifuge and have it spin at a fixed angular velocity, adjust mass until you get the right reactive force (preventing the mass from flying off).
Pick the force and acceleration to define standard mass.
Since "f = ma" and we can measure "f" and "a" easily enough.
Can't we define "m" based on that using a centrifuge or something?
Probably a stupid idea but was just wondering why not.
I'm getting kind of sick of Kinect "related" news.
It's nothing more than a low res 3D camera - with fairly limited accuracy.
I wouldn't worry too much about it, I'm sure directors will find new ways to focus the audience's attention - not to mention tricks like the old close up will still work.
This complaint is similar to the one people made when cinema went wide-screen, it took film makers a while to adept, but it's no problem now.
Err... the display they use isn't off-the-shelf though.
It would be really cool if they can get this to work at the fidelity of current TVs, but I got a feeling I would be long dead by then. :/
I quite like the new site actually, it's clean and seems less buggy then the old one.
While it had some bugs when it was release, most of them appear to have been fixed.
The only issues I have with it is the mobile version, text is too small, and quite a few rendering glitches (over-lapping text, title of top post getting clipped).
It's Sony. Nintendo doesn't have to worry - it just has to stay out of the way while Sony self-destructs due to internal conflicts, dead-end media formats mandated by other Sony divisions, unrealistic price-points, market-alienating legal maneuvers, and the like.
Nintendo needs to worry about Microsoft: now that Xbox and Kinect are the golden children in Redmond - and seeing how much better Microsoft is in dealing with the global market than either of the Japanese companies are - the next gen could belong to MS. Nintendo has to "open the kimono" a little bit if it wants to continue on the successes of the Wii and the DS.
Yes, yes. I'm sure they will repeat ALL their mistakes they made in the past. /rolleyes
When it comes to open-formats they notice no one but a few geeks give a damn - not to mention the same few geeks will probably use the open-standard as a way to hack the system too.
Anyway the point of discussion here is, IMO if you want your handheld platform to survive it's goes to be necessary to integrate it into a phone. Few people like carrying an extra gadget around, they will use whatever device is available to game on i.e. their phone.
The era of standalone handheld consoles might be coming to an end.
Ya, releasing the phone so close to NGP launch is a little weird (not to mention that the PSP is about to be retired), but you can also see it as a "test" run to iron out problems.
And when I said "If nothing goes wrong", I meant nothing goes terribly wrong. That they don't drop the ball and botch it, something that happens with Sony quite a bit, not "hope for perfect circumstances".
IMO it's either integrate you game platform into a phone, or wait for Apple to eat your market share. Few people like carrying an extra gadget around, they will use whatever device is available to game i.e. their phone.
Ya, if you don't help their bottom line at all there is little reason for them to try to appease you.
Simple concept really.
Businesses will use whatever model that manages to bring in money, if ut bring in profit it's a good model, and will stop when it doesn't. That's that.
Oh they are on it already, google search for "Xperia Play".
It will only be a matter of time before a PSP2 phone comes out - given that it uses ARM as well they can reuse the CPU and probably GPU for an Android based phone.
Assuming nothing goes wrong, they can give Apple a run for their money.
Nintendo is the one that should be worried.
Let me put it this way, these consoles work via the razor model.
The consoles are sold at a loss or barely break even with negileable margin. The R&D cost are recover by selling games.
You bought a PSP but no games, you are the worst kind of customer for console makers, you shouldn't be surprise when they make next to no attempt to appease you or your kind.
The alternative model is the PC one where the hardware costs a lot more.
Personally I have no preference for either model.
That said I wished Sony was a little more friendly to homebrew - after "other OS" I doubt they have the stomach to try any sort of homebrew feature again though.
What made you think Sony would remove it on the fat if not for geohot?
Any idiot could see removing it would be a PR nightmare, but it was the lesser of 2 evils for them - no more homebrew vs piracy and hacks online.
As for the slim they just didn't want to sell PS3s with "other OS" anymore, it complete within their right to do so.