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Sony Updates PS3 Firmware To 3.56 To Stop Jailbreaking
tekgoblin writes "Today Sony has released a firmware update for the PS3 console that will update it to version 3.56. This comes on the same day news broke on the restraining order against George Hotz (Geohot). Sony did not state that it would stop jailbreaking the console but we can only assume that it does. With this restraining order against Geohot we see the Streisand Effect taking hold again as the key spreads all over the net. This decision by the courts may also prompt more hackers to focus their time on the PS3 from other projects. Be aware if you update your system and you like to jailbreak or hack, you will probably be unable to after the update."
Actually, it might be possible after all.
wasn't it yesterday ?
Seems like MS takes the approach of "Fine, mod your console if you like, but if you get caught you can't use it on XBL". And since XBL is a subscription service they set their rules, but you agree to them by paying for the service.
I suspect Sony will learn the lesson and the PS4 will see the introduction of a subscription based PSN. Especially since the next generation of games will likely all be purchased through app stores as opposed to optical media.
"The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money" - Thatcher.
Won't somebody think of the children?!?! These people hacking the PS3 are just going to make our children turn to a life of crime - stealing viruses from the CDC, tricking themselves out to our robot overlords, wearing white after labor day...
The Private key is out meaning that Sony can't stop the "Jailbreaking". Although every time sony release a new firmware it will have to be modified and resigned meaning the only effect will be that the jailbreakers will be delayed a few days from accessing the PSN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21qKG6nlymg
http://ps3firmwareworld.free.bg/
http://psjailbreak.co.cc/breaking-official-firmware-v3-56-goes-live
http://ps3hacks.com/tag/kakarotoks/
Dipshits.
...with your shitty updates that seemingly do nothing except prevent me from using the online services until i've installed them.
I can't remember the last actual worthwhile update Sony pushed through, it seems every one of them is just another 'whoops forgot to plug a security hole that won't have any effect on you but may be able to be used for piracy'.
Also if people truly do just want a system to run homebrew on why not just buy the dev kit? It's basically an unlocked, unsubsidized PS3.
When Linux comes back to the PS3 I'll make the perfect test case of who actually owns the hardware when I have Linux and only Linux installed on it. I bought it, I own it, Sony can take a long walk off a short pier.
The overriding issue is that the DMCA anti-circumvention provisions are simply bad laws and as such they serve to bring themselves into contempt.
Shh.
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"Sony Updates PS3 Firmware To 3.56 To Stop Jailbreaking"
"Sony did not state that it would stop jailbreaking the console but we can only assume that it does."
You can only assume? Call me when you know. Until then stop wasting my bandwidth with your wild guesses.
I have to say, the PS3 has been the most entertaining console so far. And I've never even played one. Again, I have to thank Sony for putting on such a good show in its futile attempts with DRM. OK, back to watching the show...
And it was broken in one hour. Sony never learns. It's like they really, really, really want to believe.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/20/mandatory-xbox-360-update-sneakily-halts-call-of-duty-pirates/
So no, it doesn't seem like MS is being more permissive than Sony here.
Both are trying to stop people from modding their consoles, presumably for the purpose of maintaining their revenue streams.
http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/8/20/95
no linux on ps3? no purchase from me!
I guess it's okay when something like the SONY BMG ROOTKIT can exist, right?
Sweet! My Blu-Ray player has a firmware update. Not sure what this gaming non-sense is all about.
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, START
"If you like to jailbreak or hack, you will probably be unable to after the update."
REALLY? Does it ship with a big mean guy that brakes your fingers if you try to hack again? How the hell will they ever make hackers stop? Only Sony could think that hacking their machine stops when they say "After this update you can't do it".
Sony must act quickly to lock the PS3 platform down again - by firmware updates or the legal system it doesn't matter. The PS3 eco-system including Sony and third party publishers need to be assured that the DRM is working otherwise they will not invest in new titles. It's that simple. No publisher will heavily invest in a title when it is widely known that that there is a way to play a pirated copy without paying for it. Sure a few honest people would still pay but being realistic the majority of people like things for free.
If we want the PS3 platform to survive longer and to have good titles available it is in our interest that Sony comes up with a way to fix the DRM as soon as possible and discourage people from breaking it.
WHEN ARE THESE ASSHOLES GOING TO FIGURE OUT THAT NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY, OR WHAT NEW TECHNOLOGIES THEY IMPLEMENT, SOME INTENT 14 YEAR OLD WILL FIND A WAY AROUND IT?????????? It is a fact as solid as steel that if there is a will,. there is a way. No flash this, or hardware that will make any difference. If you make something too expensive to just pony up and pay for, someone will find a cheaper (if not free) way to circumvent your short-sighted overtly-greedy dumb ass!!!!! HAHAHAHA Fuck you! Go Die, or figure out some other way to screw people (like maybe a career in politics or economics!)
. -Oz
So I guess you're blind as a bat to the obvious, then?
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Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Fuck you SONY!!
Root kit this!
While this site is totally for open software en open hardware and I largely agree with that, I think gaming consoles are a use case for closed hardware/software. Not because of the threat of piracy, but because of the ability to not allow software cheats. I personally moved (and I know a lot of other players did) from PC gaming to console gaming because the amount of cheating through software hacks on the PC platform. So I understand the wish for homebrew but I do think gaming consoles should be a closed environment just to have a reasonable fair gaming environment. I am aware that there are others ways of cheating and glitching that are also available in console gaming, but they are never as worse as an aimbot.
My PS3 isn't getting an update till my Other OS option is safe. It's off the net entirely.
This makes buying games real easy:
1) PC Version
2) XBox 360 version
3) Wii Version
4) Okay, okay, PS3 version. But nothing that forces a mandatory update. Sorry GT5.
MS grubs for my money in all directions, but as long as we'll all in agreement that I will at times give them that money and they will not treat me, their customer, like s@#$, they're smarter or at least more reasonable than Sony and will get my money before Sony does. Opening Kinect (after that initial reflex foot in mouth) just clinched it. I would kind of like to play LBP2 but that's the way it goes, I will go drown my sorrows in Dead Space 2. Or dismember them.
If you want to keep playing online while a custom firmware is released. All that is necessary is to plug in this as the primary DNS in your PS3 network settings:
67.202.81.137
And ta-daa, we're back online with 3.55.
A war for which, I'm afraid, there can be only one of two outcomes:
(a) control is wrested from end-users by legal means; the balance between free speech and commercial interests is decided in favour of commercial interests, with all its implications for free speech
(b) control remains with end-users, which implies that free speech trumps commercial interests with the result that manufacturers will find it difficult to continue to use "razorblade" sales models, and content providers cannot enforce copyright protection for their content.
If the thoughts underlying the temporary restraining order become enshrined in Law, then I believe it's highly unlikely that closed systems will actually stop at games consoles. If fear that PCs will be targeted next. After all, we have seen in Palladium (see e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next-Generation_Secure_Computing_Base ) that it's technically feasible.
Now there are three crucial aspects for this to happen:
(1) a firm legal basis,
(2) mainstream acceptation, and
(3) commercial interest.
As soon as those are in place, political support will follow.
With the widespread adoption of sundry locked-down games consoles (such as playstations), the mainstream acceptance is with us today. Commercial interest is high, mainly from content providers who find it ever so much easier to prevent their content from being copied on locked-down hardware. And so the last obstacle is of a legal nature, which is currently being eroded.
I'm not optimistic on this issue and I foresee that it's only a matter of time before hardware lockdowns appear on PCs.
There may be (massive) resistance from the market, but with the right political connections one might well envision an extremely "patriotic" bill to "Protect America's Cyberspace Sovereignty" (or similar bumf) that mandates the use of Trusted Computing platforms throughout.
I was under the impression that the private key discovered for the PS3 was impossible to retract without hardware modification? Bet you wish you'd never removed the other OS function now, eh Sony? :)
I paid for it. I am not "licensing" the hardware. I'm not "borrowing" it. I am not "leasing" it.
Once it is mine and I have possession of it, I can modify it any way I know how and there is nothing legally they can do about it. It is my property.
Keys for 3.56 found..few days and new CFW for 3.56 will be out and there's a loophole that enables you to get on PS network eventhough you're at 3.55.. another epic fail from SONY.
only took few hours.
The problem with the pc is that the game files are accessible. It's all about what you want and if you don't want cheaters you are better off getting a 360.
At some point there will be consoles that are unhackable. Console security is refined over time just like server security.
I'll start by saying, Cheating in Multiplayer is ridiculous. It ruins the game for everyone, and under no circumstances should be tolerated. However, as I've gotten older, I've found that I have less and less time to play Video Games, compared to what I used to have. Additionally, since I'm no longer a child, I can afford to buy all the games I want, which means rather than having 2 to 4 new games a year, I have many many more. Sometimes, I enjoy certain aspects of a game, and not others... so I want to skip those aspects I do not enjoy, and get to the aspects I do. Is that wrong in some way? Take Final Fantasy 13 for example. I do not enjoy the battle system, in fact, I hate it. But I enjoyed the story enough to keep it up for a while. Eventually, I just, didn't want to do the battles anymore. I would have liked to see the rest of the story, but I just wasn't having enough fun to justify spending all that time. If I was playing on the PS2, I'd pop in my Gameshark, give myself level 99 or equivalent, and be on my way. I'd be able to get more enjoyment out of the game than I did, and no one else is affected negatively by my cheating. On the PS3 and Xbox 360, that's not an option. It actually detracts from my enjoyment of these games. I'm aware that this is more a case for alternative game design than it is for openness in console modding, but I wanted to put 2 cents in anyways.
Did anybody read the comment thread in the second link? It appears to be nothing but 15-year olds, but the overwhelming sentiment is *against* George Hotz and *for* Sony. I find it depressing when I talk to normal people who cheerfully use iTunes et al with no idea what DRM is. But seeing a whole gang of young people vehemently defending Sony against those mean, mean pirates is just demoralizing.
And why are they defending Sony? Because Sony was forced (by the scurvy pirates) to issue a useless update that prevents them from using their PS3 for 30 minutes while it's downloading and installing. So Sony does something useless and annoying, and the 15-year olds blame the pirates for it.
I hate to say this, but we've lost. The public has accepted HDMI. They've accepted devices locked in firmware. They've accepted Blu-Ray. They've accepted the iOS app store. They've accepted the Kindle. In 5 years the PCs from the big vendors will have locked firmware to "protect the user experience" and to prevent "hackers and pirates" from "compromising the security of the system" so they can download child porn and terrorist handbooks. In 10 years the only way you'll be able to run FOSS software will be to buy an unlocked "corporate" PC for an absurd amount of money and possibly only after "registering" your unprotected box so the authorities can monitor you for illicit activities. For a big company this won't be any issue at all (they already have policies to prevent their employees for using the servers for non-corporate activities), but for the home user it will be an enormous barrier.
Stallman was right. I'm depressed.
We see what you did there.
I really don't think so. The fact of the matter is that most legislation concerning the balance between commercial rights and individual ones (especially on IP-related issues) that is pioneered in the US is sooner or later adopted by countries in Europe, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and even China. Especially if it is supported by lobbyists. The delay typically is about 5-10 years in the case of Europe.
...sony would learn and put linux support back, after all removing it is how this whole mess started. But who am I kidding, our world is utterly insane.
What do I know, I'm just an idiot, right?
Every single time I turn that hunk of garbage on I have to update it before I can do anything. Annoying is what it was 5 updates ago. I'm about to just go get a dedicated Blu-ray player and Sony can kiss my...
who will want to download blue-ray sized games?
the pc world not take being locked out of free software.
and there is alot of free software for windows as well and M$ may get in monopoly trouble if they try a locked in app store. I don't think abode will pay $100 year + 30% to be able to sell photoshop on windows and anyways in 5 years how many people will even be on windows 8?
After seeing how long it to for people to get off of XP!
I can see the headline six months from now. Sony releases firmware 3.599999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 to prevent jailbreaking, and is hacked within seconds.
George Hotz receives restraining order preventing him from using the number 3, or the letters P and S.
All I know is that I couldn't connect to PSN to use Netflix until I did the update - it simply refused to connect.
If you want an insightful read, follow the "it might be possible after all" link at the end of the summary, and try to comprehend the comments after the article. It's disturbing to see just how poorly Average Joe understands the concept of property ownership.
Based on nothing but the odd legal theories being projected against Hotz, I would bet that there is no technical difference between 3.55 and 3.56 and all the actual diffs are in the license agreement.
You know, this is an SCO-esque attempt by SCE (a Japaneese corporation) to conflate its rights to have SCEA (and American LLC) sue you if they don't like you for any purpose, and to have you double-agree that you agree to whatever agreements they want to say you did. (Check groklaw, this one about whatever agreements they say you are bound by bit is in there for real.)
The possibility that this firmware update rewrites the TPM is somewhat unlikely.
Innocent people shouldn't be forced to pay for inferior software development.
--"Code Complete" Microsoft Press
It is a presentation. He is showing you something, but he isn't blind, so "we" see.
Rethinking email
No, you're not the only one who thinks that it's risky, but taking that risk is something you do every day that you use the internet. Unless you're telling me that every day (since, after all, things do occasionally change), you traceroute to Sony's servers, and you have audited every node between you and them?
We deal with that risk by always encrypting anything sensitive.
Let's say this node didn't have unknown intentions. Suppose it were known to be hostile. If you can't trust this hostile node with your packets, then guess what: you already had a problem. The credit card # should be encrypted, in which case mystery nodes are safe to use. If it's not encrypted, then you have already shared your credit card number with who-knows-who.
And if you don't know whether or not (and how) Sony encrypts your credit card: then why the fuck are you entering your credit card number into their untrusted machine?
The reason I wouldn't route all my traffic who who-knows-what, is for performance. It just can't be as fast as routing things correctly.
don't the public keys make jailbreaking irrelevant? I though that the release of the keys allows homebrewers to sign their code so that it runs w/o jailbreaking ... If I am wrong feel free to tell me.