So we can have several valid comparisons:
Clock for Clock
$$ for $$
'Performance' for 'Performance
Clock for Clock, it would seem that both dissipate the same amount of power; 14W
That, however, doesn't tell us how much 'performance' the processor generates per Watt, as it were. A Gateway Select 1200 with similar options (but a faster processor) $2341 vs an Apple G4 667MHz tower for $2799.
So there is definitely a $450 delta between the two. The G4 gives off 14W, the Athlon at ~55W. If we want, we can do the math that 2x MHz and 3.7x energy dissapation.
As per performance, everyone thinks/knows that a G4 on Photoshop beats the pants off anything else on the market, supposedly, but we have that on a clock per clock, the G4 supposedly outperforms but has the same wattage, while at max MHz, the G4 *still* supposedly outperforms and uses much less watts.
Noble? It seems emminently practical if the whole world were Open-Source. If NT or 9X is giving you one too many BSoDs, you can fire up your VC++ debuggers, your MingWin devtools, your VI editors, and actually fix, debug, and diagnose your problem.
That's one aspect. The other aspect is 'freedom', in the sense that having bought a copy of NT, or 9X, I should be able to tinker with it, in the same way that if I bought a Ford or Chevy, I can pop open the hood, tweak the manifolds, bores, or just do my monthly maintainence, without *having* to go to the mechanic, if I am so skilled or inclined.
NT or 9X is not so generous towards us. We bought it, but we cannot tinker, fix, or modify.
Your scheme of a giant shareable code-base that others can use as they see fit is equivalent to a world where everything is GPL, in the sense that all the code is out there, and everything is open sourced, and anyone can tinker, load, compile, modify, etc.
The minute your world of shareable code starts to hide and obscure code is the minute the GPL would kick in to force the world to *remain* shareable code.
Yet without the GPL as an enforcing mechanism, what would stop the shareable code base from evaporating with time, as people keep developments and changes private and proprietary?
The GPL is one method towards which we can attain this giant shareable code base, as well as a method towards which we maintain it's status.
Otherwise, if there were no clauses of returning code to the public benefit, just through attrition and age, code would probably just disappear with time.
EVAS is an API or library that allows for the WM, in this case E, to utilize hardware accelerated OpenGL hardware, not just the standard 2d raster stuff found on most video cards, right?
Does this mean E will only work on NVIDIA and 3dfx hardware, under Linux? I've heard other people mention this too.
Is this canvas software, EVAs, akin to Apple's DisplayPDF layer? Will it eventually mature into a display layer that sits between the hardware and the WM? I'm curious if Apple was an inspiration, or not.
Or is it literally just a wrapper around OpenGL? Instead of calling a 2d api, it just remaps to an equiv 3d function call to get the alpha blending and scaling?
If this is literally in it's infancy, maybe a long term design plan to create a Quartz type API would be nice.
It isn't FUD. It is generally true if Nintendo, Sony, or MS says 'our next generation of consoles will be more powerful than our current generation'
If this were FUD to freeze sales of X-Box and G-Cube, it would also have the same effect on PS2; people would wait for the PS3 instead of buying PS2s!
As for the 1000x more powerful, that's debateable. If it's expected to be 5 years from now, in the same age of operation as the PSX, then it will be at least 30-50 times more powerful, if only using Moore's respective laws. If they optimize and plan carefully, they may realistically get 100-200 times more powerful, but 1000x seems a bit, well, generous.
As for vapor, it's long term planning. Lack of long term planning wouldn't bode Sony, or any corporation, well!
As for PS2 killer games? What about Sons of Liberty? Don't forget FF10!
If half a million Windows OSes are out there now, then during the next upgrade cycle, and if there are manufacturers that wan't to beat the system, all they have to do is buy back the OSes from their customers and sell it again with the next cycle of systems created.
M$ may argue that there are unlicensed systems, but then there is always the argument that people are running Linux, BSD, Be, or Darwin!
Even better, it means M$ has to out-innovate itself to force people to buy the newer OS at the same or similar price to the older OS; if they charge too much, people will generally opt for the older OS, and if they don't charge enough, the M$ loses out on profits!
say, start an antijunk mail company, where people become stockholders by sending in checks of $10 a year, and then using that money to 'buy' services from the USPS to prevent being sent junk mail?
That's what I said. So my point was to start a non-profit organization that had the clout and the resources to 'buy', in the sense of getting the USPS to listen to us, the same way environmentalists buy land to place into trusts and parks, not 'buy' as in paying companies not to send spam.
The company should be more than spam and junk mail; it can be about privacy, personal rights, and personal preferences, including telemarketing, bulk mail, and electronic spam. I'm not sure what I said wrong that got people thinking about sending money to a company to prevent them from spamming you!
Hey, is it extortion then when we send money to the ALCU to protect our civil liberties? Money to the EFF to protect our digital rights? Random charities to protect our environment, our countryside, our landmarks, our history?
Is the only thing the government can do? Regulate?
At least I was thinking that the gov could create an atmosphere and situations where people have the power and the ability to create their own lifestyle. Is that only possible through regulation? I guess you could call laws, fines, taxes, purchases, research, production, and fees regulation. Govt runs public services, programs, research institutions, etc.
If the US had dropped it's paranoid fear of government a loooong time ago, we'd have never left the UK in the first place!
Irrespective of socialism or anything, the role of government is is to empower and protect the people. Regulation may or may not be that answer, but I'd lean against it, as the same measures can be used against people as much as it protects people.
If there are methods that work without regulation, then that would be preferrable... say, start an antijunk mail company, where people become stockholders by sending in checks of $10 a year, and then using that money to 'buy' services from the USPS to prevent being sent junk mail?
Unless I'm severely mistaken, Apple's overriding philosophy has, generically, been to engineer towards excellence. Which lead to the adoption of SCSI over IDE, early on, and Motorola over Intel, wireless networking, and USB over serial, and to engineer those standards when none existed, like Firewire, or ADB, or fanless cubes, or optical drives, or using NeXT over Be, etc.
There is no IBMesque philosophy; each manufacturer, like Apple, has their own design goals. Some try to make nifty hardware, like Sony, some try to make high volume low margin devices, like Gateway or Dell, and some are just mediocre pieces of crap.
Apples today, at least, use standard memory, standard IDE drives, standard Firewire drives, standard USB buses, standard PCI and AGP slots, and standard networking protocols.
The only thing proprietary inside an Apple machine is the engineering done to make it possible; the chipsets, the ROMs, the motherboard layout, the CPU and logic, etc. I've always noticed how exacting the engineering inside Apples have been, ever since MacIIs.
Cannot talk much about NeXTs.
They lack the diversity? Excuse me? That's an irrelevant concept. Apple is a vendor and purveyor of PCs as much as Gateway. They purchase and compete for ATI chips against Dell, have to buy and use harddisks no different than IBM, compete against Sony for firewire implementations, Compaq for USB connectors, Micron for IDE interfaces, etc.
If you mean by lack of diversity that there weren't multiple manufacturers of Apples... well, there wasn't exactly many manufacturers of HP computers either. Nor could you swap CPUs, motherboards, or fans on an HP computer, today, with that of a Compaq. Try, HP sooo engineers their cases, it's almost custom.
HD, CD-ROMs, memory, CPUs, video cards, and sound cards, maybe. But with sound and ethernet increasingly being included on the motherboard, many of today's PCs are starting to look more and more like Apple's machines.
I dunno, I think you're over-generalizing with your comparison to Apple/NeXT and Linux/DOS.
After all, they have the color-space and color-sync issues handled (for years now, to boot), and they are pushing their PCs as the center of the digital lifestyle hub.
Why wouldn't the next step, after high fidelity color, fanless/noiseless devices, and digital video, be digital audio?
Perfect digital signals, no interference, shielding and such, etc, with an external standalone amp and speakers? Why not?
Even better if they can figure out how to do this without wires!
But Nintendo has a legal onus to protect it's IP and copyrights.
See this? There's Pokemon Trading Card artwork, as well as other artwork, that Nintendo believes is infringed upon without due compensation or licensing from Nintendo.
It would be like... someone printing and selling NFL logoed shirts, without licensing said logos from the NFL.
Specifically addressed by copyright law and not a fair use issue.
See this? There's Pokemon Trading Card artwork, as well as other artwork, that Nintendo believes is infringed upon without due compensation or licensing from Nintendo.
Specifically addressed by copyright law and not a fair use issue.
See <a href="http://media.dailyradar.com/images/misc/nvi/ nvi_page_02.gif">this</a>? There's Pokemon Trading Card artwork, as well as other artwork, that Nintendo believes is infringed upon without due compensation or licensing from Nintendo.
Specifically addressed by copyright law and not a fair use issue.
See this? There's Pokemon Trading Card artwork, as well as other artwork, that Nintendo believes is infringed upon without due compensation or licensing from Nintendo.
Its more than just about the Strategy Guides. There is info at this link
Besides the screenshots(which I think are bogus allegations and fair use) there's also the artwork from the Pokemon trading cards as well as other promotional/product artwork.
That's clearly a violation, if they haven't licensed such artwork from Nintendo.
One moderator, so far, thinks I'm trolling.
Another moderator thinks I'm interesting.
Anyway, a virus/worm that spread in this manner, of alternating, would take advantage of a couple of common distributions.
Houses that use Linux in server environments with masses of NT boxes on the desktop. It would affect all members equally. I guess Macs and SCOs and BSDs would be discriminated against, in this case...
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Explosive means uncontrolled/uncontrollable, where almost explosive would mean, um, almost controlled/controllable?
An explosive chemical reaction is one where there is a chain reaction. Combustion is where it is merely self sustaining. I think.
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Yes.
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If you want to run an experiment, you don't want something with *more* dimensions! You want something with one, or two, at most!
Maybe something like Tetris, which has two dimensions; critical thinking, and reflexes.
Or something like Solitaire, which involves planning and resource management.
Try simple games, like Pacman, etc.
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So we can have several valid comparisons:
Clock for Clock
$$ for $$
'Performance' for 'Performance
Clock for Clock, it would seem that both dissipate the same amount of power; 14W
That, however, doesn't tell us how much 'performance' the processor generates per Watt, as it were. A Gateway Select 1200 with similar options (but a faster processor) $2341 vs an Apple G4 667MHz tower for $2799.
So there is definitely a $450 delta between the two. The G4 gives off 14W, the Athlon at ~55W. If we want, we can do the math that 2x MHz and 3.7x energy dissapation.
As per performance, everyone thinks/knows that a G4 on Photoshop beats the pants off anything else on the market, supposedly, but we have that on a clock per clock, the G4 supposedly outperforms but has the same wattage, while at max MHz, the G4 *still* supposedly outperforms and uses much less watts.
Now, how about non-Photoshop? I dunno.
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Noble? It seems emminently practical if the whole world were Open-Source. If NT or 9X is giving you one too many BSoDs, you can fire up your VC++ debuggers, your MingWin devtools, your VI editors, and actually fix, debug, and diagnose your problem.
That's one aspect. The other aspect is 'freedom', in the sense that having bought a copy of NT, or 9X, I should be able to tinker with it, in the same way that if I bought a Ford or Chevy, I can pop open the hood, tweak the manifolds, bores, or just do my monthly maintainence, without *having* to go to the mechanic, if I am so skilled or inclined.
NT or 9X is not so generous towards us. We bought it, but we cannot tinker, fix, or modify.
Your scheme of a giant shareable code-base that others can use as they see fit is equivalent to a world where everything is GPL, in the sense that all the code is out there, and everything is open sourced, and anyone can tinker, load, compile, modify, etc.
The minute your world of shareable code starts to hide and obscure code is the minute the GPL would kick in to force the world to *remain* shareable code.
Yet without the GPL as an enforcing mechanism, what would stop the shareable code base from evaporating with time, as people keep developments and changes private and proprietary?
The GPL is one method towards which we can attain this giant shareable code base, as well as a method towards which we maintain it's status.
Otherwise, if there were no clauses of returning code to the public benefit, just through attrition and age, code would probably just disappear with time.
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Let's see if I have this straight:
EVAS is an API or library that allows for the WM, in this case E, to utilize hardware accelerated OpenGL hardware, not just the standard 2d raster stuff found on most video cards, right?
Does this mean E will only work on NVIDIA and 3dfx hardware, under Linux? I've heard other people mention this too.
Is this canvas software, EVAs, akin to Apple's DisplayPDF layer? Will it eventually mature into a display layer that sits between the hardware and the WM? I'm curious if Apple was an inspiration, or not.
Or is it literally just a wrapper around OpenGL? Instead of calling a 2d api, it just remaps to an equiv 3d function call to get the alpha blending and scaling?
If this is literally in it's infancy, maybe a long term design plan to create a Quartz type API would be nice.
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It was despite the PS2 hype; if Sony could produce as many PS2 machines as it wanted, I'm sure they would have had the PS2 outselling the PS1.
What happened was that they could produce the PS1 in mass quantaties, but could not produce the PS2 in similarly large amounts.
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I dunno; I would think the hype machine, if it were turned on, would steal as many sales away from the PS2 as it would from the Xbox and the GCube.
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It isn't FUD. It is generally true if Nintendo, Sony, or MS says 'our next generation of consoles will be more powerful than our current generation'
If this were FUD to freeze sales of X-Box and G-Cube, it would also have the same effect on PS2; people would wait for the PS3 instead of buying PS2s!
As for the 1000x more powerful, that's debateable. If it's expected to be 5 years from now, in the same age of operation as the PSX, then it will be at least 30-50 times more powerful, if only using Moore's respective laws. If they optimize and plan carefully, they may realistically get 100-200 times more powerful, but 1000x seems a bit, well, generous.
As for vapor, it's long term planning. Lack of long term planning wouldn't bode Sony, or any corporation, well!
As for PS2 killer games? What about Sons of Liberty? Don't forget FF10!
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How ironic! How karmic! How fitting!
If half a million Windows OSes are out there now, then during the next upgrade cycle, and if there are manufacturers that wan't to beat the system, all they have to do is buy back the OSes from their customers and sell it again with the next cycle of systems created.
M$ may argue that there are unlicensed systems, but then there is always the argument that people are running Linux, BSD, Be, or Darwin!
Even better, it means M$ has to out-innovate itself to force people to buy the newer OS at the same or similar price to the older OS; if they charge too much, people will generally opt for the older OS, and if they don't charge enough, the M$ loses out on profits!
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They might be pricing at the same rate that M$ charged them?
So if they were already paying $30-$40 or more by M$, they lose nothing by paying this much to consumers!
This is also gotta hurt M$. They now compete against themselves, and they *have* to innovate against themselves, if this catches on!
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Hey, I wrote the original post!
say, start an antijunk mail company, where people become stockholders by sending in checks of $10 a year, and then using that money to 'buy' services from the USPS to prevent being sent junk mail?
That's what I said. So my point was to start a non-profit organization that had the clout and the resources to 'buy', in the sense of getting the USPS to listen to us, the same way environmentalists buy land to place into trusts and parks, not 'buy' as in paying companies not to send spam.
The company should be more than spam and junk mail; it can be about privacy, personal rights, and personal preferences, including telemarketing, bulk mail, and electronic spam. I'm not sure what I said wrong that got people thinking about sending money to a company to prevent them from spamming you!
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Hey, is it extortion then when we send money to the ALCU to protect our civil liberties? Money to the EFF to protect our digital rights? Random charities to protect our environment, our countryside, our landmarks, our history?
Is all that extortion?
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Is the only thing the government can do? Regulate?
At least I was thinking that the gov could create an atmosphere and situations where people have the power and the ability to create their own lifestyle. Is that only possible through regulation? I guess you could call laws, fines, taxes, purchases, research, production, and fees regulation. Govt runs public services, programs, research institutions, etc.
Well?
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If the US had dropped it's paranoid fear of government a loooong time ago, we'd have never left the UK in the first place!
Irrespective of socialism or anything, the role of government is is to empower and protect the people. Regulation may or may not be that answer, but I'd lean against it, as the same measures can be used against people as much as it protects people.
If there are methods that work without regulation, then that would be preferrable... say, start an antijunk mail company, where people become stockholders by sending in checks of $10 a year, and then using that money to 'buy' services from the USPS to prevent being sent junk mail?
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NeXT/Apple and Linux/DOS?
Unless I'm severely mistaken, Apple's overriding philosophy has, generically, been to engineer towards excellence. Which lead to the adoption of SCSI over IDE, early on, and Motorola over Intel, wireless networking, and USB over serial, and to engineer those standards when none existed, like Firewire, or ADB, or fanless cubes, or optical drives, or using NeXT over Be, etc.
There is no IBMesque philosophy; each manufacturer, like Apple, has their own design goals. Some try to make nifty hardware, like Sony, some try to make high volume low margin devices, like Gateway or Dell, and some are just mediocre pieces of crap.
Apples today, at least, use standard memory, standard IDE drives, standard Firewire drives, standard USB buses, standard PCI and AGP slots, and standard networking protocols.
The only thing proprietary inside an Apple machine is the engineering done to make it possible; the chipsets, the ROMs, the motherboard layout, the CPU and logic, etc. I've always noticed how exacting the engineering inside Apples have been, ever since MacIIs.
Cannot talk much about NeXTs.
They lack the diversity? Excuse me? That's an irrelevant concept. Apple is a vendor and purveyor of PCs as much as Gateway. They purchase and compete for ATI chips against Dell, have to buy and use harddisks no different than IBM, compete against Sony for firewire implementations, Compaq for USB connectors, Micron for IDE interfaces, etc.
If you mean by lack of diversity that there weren't multiple manufacturers of Apples... well, there wasn't exactly many manufacturers of HP computers either. Nor could you swap CPUs, motherboards, or fans on an HP computer, today, with that of a Compaq. Try, HP sooo engineers their cases, it's almost custom.
HD, CD-ROMs, memory, CPUs, video cards, and sound cards, maybe. But with sound and ethernet increasingly being included on the motherboard, many of today's PCs are starting to look more and more like Apple's machines.
I dunno, I think you're over-generalizing with your comparison to Apple/NeXT and Linux/DOS.
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Apple will do this next/first?
After all, they have the color-space and color-sync issues handled (for years now, to boot), and they are pushing their PCs as the center of the digital lifestyle hub.
Why wouldn't the next step, after high fidelity color, fanless/noiseless devices, and digital video, be digital audio?
Perfect digital signals, no interference, shielding and such, etc, with an external standalone amp and speakers? Why not?
Even better if they can figure out how to do this without wires!
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Yes, Nintendo is bullying, that's the norm here.
But Nintendo has a legal onus to protect it's IP and copyrights.
See this? There's Pokemon Trading Card artwork, as well as other artwork, that Nintendo believes is infringed upon without due compensation or licensing from Nintendo.
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It would be like... someone printing and selling NFL logoed shirts, without licensing said logos from the NFL.
Specifically addressed by copyright law and not a fair use issue.
See this? There's Pokemon Trading Card artwork, as well as other artwork, that Nintendo believes is infringed upon without due compensation or licensing from Nintendo.
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Specifically addressed by copyright law and not a fair use issue.
/ nvi_page_02.gif">this</a>? There's Pokemon Trading Card artwork, as well as other artwork, that Nintendo believes is infringed upon without due compensation or licensing from Nintendo.
See <a href="http://media.dailyradar.com/images/misc/nvi
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Specifically addressed by copyright law and not a fair use issue.
See this? There's Pokemon Trading Card artwork, as well as other artwork, that Nintendo believes is infringed upon without due compensation or licensing from Nintendo.
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Its more than just about the Strategy Guides. There is info at this link
Besides the screenshots(which I think are bogus allegations and fair use) there's also the artwork from the Pokemon trading cards as well as other promotional/product artwork.
That's clearly a violation, if they haven't licensed such artwork from Nintendo.
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One moderator, so far, thinks I'm trolling.
Another moderator thinks I'm interesting.
Anyway, a virus/worm that spread in this manner, of alternating, would take advantage of a couple of common distributions.
Houses that use Linux in server environments with masses of NT boxes on the desktop. It would affect all members equally. I guess Macs and SCOs and BSDs would be discriminated against, in this case...
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There goes the assertion/urban myth that Linux was proof against virii and such.
I would think a *horrible* vector would be one that alternated Windows/Linux targetting.
A Windows virus that targets Linux, transmutes itself, than looks for other Windows machines on the network.
Rinse, lather, and repeat.
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I always get the initial stuff confused.
ESR and RMS ^^; Oops.
Yeah, but you get the point of my post, right?
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