Bingo! So why hold Linux to the same standard as Windows when it comes to ease of installation? In my experience, as of RH 7.1, Linux has surpassed Windows in both ease of installation and time to install. Yes, there are some hardware combos that will trip up even modern Linux distros, but the same can be said of Win2K & XP. On average I find Linux easier to install than Windows.
I suspect that almost anybody can pop an install CD into the drive, boot the box, click the Install [Gnome|KDE] Workstation button and click OK. That's just about all it takes nowadays given that you don't have any hardware that it doesn't recognize. I know that most of us would want to tweak our install quite a bit more than that, but doing a base install is pretty trivial these days.
I think this whole "Linux-is-hard-to-install" myth needs to die. It was once that way, but the times they are a-changin, folks.
Yeah, I didn't see those T23s w/ the built-in 802.11b until after I had put up my original post. If I had, I would have recommended it instead. Wireless internet is one of the best reasons to have a laptop.
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Look no further. Expensive beast, but well worth it. This page has a comparison of all the Thinkpad T models (or is that Model Ts?). You can get the T22 pre-loaded w/ Linux, but it's Caldera...ick. Check out the keyboard light, that one feature is worth the price of admission.
themes.org had such a poll a long time ago. Iirc, enlightenment "won" the poll by far. However, this is somewhat biased by the fact that enlightenment users are more likely to be hanging out on themes.org in the first place. It would cut across a more representative cross-section here on/. I think.
My own favorite is e because it is the most configurable, has the best looking themes, and pretty much stays out of my way. I also love the e pager. I'm looking forward to e17 but I hate the fact that every time a new version comes out, it breaks all the old themes. I use the GNOME panel as a launcher, but don't use any other GNOME apps such as nautilus, evolution, etc. There are some gtk+ apps that I use (grip comes to mind) and in general I think I prefer the look (given the right theme) of the gtk+ toolkit over Qt.
I played around with KDE 2.0 once and liked it especially for Windows users migrating to Linux. It was too "Windowsy" for me, but that's personal taste and can probably be helped with the proper theming. I may look into it again one of these days.
I'm not exactly sure what to look for, but I'm noticing a lot of entries in my system log like this:
Packet log: input DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 65.14.239.180:3281 [my IP]:80 L=48 S=0x00 I=29746 F=0x4000 T=118 SYN
That IP translates to cj40900-a.alex1.va.home.com. If I try to access it w/ a web browser I get:
The page cannot be displayed
There are too many people accessing the Web site at this time...clearly a MS error message due to the link to Microsoft Support at the bottom of the page.
nmap identifies the OS as Windows 2000 Pro RC1/W2K Advance Server Beta3
I ended up just grabbing the big tarball and blowing off the net installer. It came down fine; odd that I had no trouble with it, but the net installer was choked. Different servers? I'll try it now on the Windows side of my VM and see if the Windows net installer fares any better.
Different subject....anyone notice that during the 0.8.x series of releases, everybody was trashing the crap out of the lizard and now everybody is saying how much Moz rocks?
This comment brought to you by Mozilla 0.9.3. Yum.
But the biggest improvement over 0.9.2 is in my opinion that a window that is done loading doesn't steal my focus any longer!
Man, am I glad to see this. I've been using it in Linux for quite a while, and just started using it in Windows. But that behavior was driving me nuts! I also noticed the middle button thingy in Windows. I use that all the time in Linux and did it sorta by accident when using the Windows version. My first reaction was doh! and started to right click to get the pop-up menu to open the page in a new window. But then lo and behold, the new window appeared. I'm very pleased with Mozilla and can't wait to try out 0.9.3, but can't get the net installer to run....perhaps the server is slashdotted?
I still don't use HTML mail... I saw the Exchange servers usage grow when the upper management wanted to use HTML enabled mail because it looked pretty. I'm with you....I don't use HTML e-mail either. Mainly 'cause I'm just kind of old-school that way and think that e-mail should be text. But it's hard to make a case against HTML (to the PHBs) when you can get 45GB for $100 US. For that amount of money they'd rather have their pretty e-mail, with 7 differnt fonts in 4 colors.
Thankfully, I work at a new company and their policy is - NO MS OUTLOOK PERIOD. Well, it's nice to see some enlightened people out there. It gives hope to the rest of us.
I agree. I first got into distributed computing when I heard about the SETI@home project. At the time,however, their client wasn't yet available. Their web page had a link to other distributed projects so I followed the one to d.net and started running their client. (Back then it moooed when it completed a block!!) Eventually the SETI client was released and I switched over to that for a while. I don't think it's pointless, but it became apparent right away that they had more than enough people helping out. So I switched back to d.net and have been contributing my cycles to the/. team ever since. Most of my work goes to OGR, though, not RC5.
If anyone is out there looking to participate in a distributed project, d.net was one of (if not THE) first and still the best in my opinion. The client is lightweight, unobtrusive and just works. They've done a great job with very limited resources and I urge you to donate your cycles to one or more of the d.net projects.
(actually, the FIRST moon landing. By #2, I think everyone was already jaded).
Quite right....actually there *were* no real-time video pix from the moon on mission #2 because they got there and found out that their camera was borked. Too bad too, because they landed near an old robot probe and visited it during their stay on the lunar surface. By #3 (the infamous Apollo 13) people were definately jaded - there were interviews with the astronauts that were never aired due to lack of interest. Until the accident, of course.
This is correct as far as it goes, but there's more. If your code is linked to GPL'd code you must GPL your code as well. Even this is still an oversimplification. The complete license itself is here.
The people that I know that use AOL LOVE AOL, in a way that nobody LOVES their ISP, My experience is just the opposite. Everybody I know that uses AOL hates it, but is afraid to change because: a) the Internet is hard to use, b) they don't want to change e-mail addresses, or c) just plain inertia. Caveat: I don't use AOL, and never have, so I don't speak from personal experience, just what I hear others say.
Well, as others have pointed out, you can't beat the sheer elegance of Euler's Formula. But if her pain threshold is pretty high another worthy candidate would be...
Yup, I thought of that too, but the first image I got was "The Difference Engine". A novel by William Gibson & Bruce Sterling, in case you've never heard of it.
If Apple were a person, I'd think of them as a creative individual with schizophrenic tendancies marked with delusions of grandeur and persecution and a possible self-destructive urge.
Ha! You just described Steve Jobs. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
I know how you feel, but stopping would be tantamount to burying your head in the sand. You might feel better, but the DMCA is still there. What you're depressed about isn't/., it's the foolishness that is this law. By continuing to read you will continue to be informed and knowledge (good or bad) is power. Hang in there.
forward EVERY piece of uu.net originated spam to sales@uu.net, info@uu.net Beautiful! I'm all over it.
I have irritated the sales scum to the point they have told their pink contracts to remove my email. I used to get 7 spams a day - now its less than one a week. I wonder if a similar thing is responsible for my decrease as well. I always forward it to abuse@uu.net (via SpamCop) despite the fact that I was convinced that the abuse@ account was a black hole that never gets read. (and it *really* irks me to get their auto-generated replies that say how they consider spam to be a serious problem and that they are going to take the appropriate measures to stop the owner of the offending account....HA) But maybe somebody *does* read that stuff and they got tired of me spamming them. The number of complaints I sent to that address every week was staggering, now it's one or two.
By the way, Vice President Clint Smith of uu.net is responsible for the pro spam stance according to spamhaus.org Makes you wonder if *he* ever gets any spam.
If i can confirm his email, i know what i'll use for all those free reg sites! Dude! You know where to find me.:)
While we're at it, let's go after the guys running open relays and ISPs (can you say UUnet?) who harbor spammers. If anything I'm more pissed off at these guys because it's so easy to close down an open relay and these people are such poor netizens that they can't be bothered.
One day I was bored so I checked my company's mail server with Spamcop and found to my surprise that we were an open relay. I contacted our sys admin and moments later the problem was solved. We then contacted Spamcop and got ourselves removed from ORBS. I think a lot of folks don't realize the magnitude of the problem and also don't realize (because they don't bother to check) that they're part of the problem. I don't know if laws will fix this (and I tend to think of laws as a last resort anyway). Maybe awareness is the first step. I like to believe that most people would like to be good netizens if they knew how.
UUnet is another matter. They clearly know exaclty what they're doing and don't care because they're making money. Something must be done, but I'd still prefer that the internet community somehow solve this problem without getting governments involved.
Having said all that, I've noticed that the amount of spam I get from uunet is greatly reduced lately. Anybody else notice this? Maybe they've cleaned up their act a bit after a flood of spam crashed one of their networks in Britain. Pure speculation, of course, but I've definately seen a decrease in spam originating from uunet.
Then I think that the rules are probably incorrect. Using school rules to mussle students is not really great. There might be some justification if the students were using school equipment. In the case of the domain name this appears not to be the case.
I don't like the rules either, but that's only my opinion. There is nothing illegal about them and the parents were free to not send their kids to that school. In a way it's like an EULA. Here are the rules you must abide by to be educated here. Don't like 'em? Go someplace else.
Just out of curiosity for non US readers, I can't understand why this does not break the first amendment rules. Surely it applies automatically and the fact that the school is private is irrelevant. I suggest you read the 1st amendment. That should clear up your confusion. It says that Congress shall pass no law inihibiting the freedom of speech, religion or press. They didn't.
... they should use the libel laws as recourse. I strongly disagree. First of all, it's questionable whether the students broke any laws. I think the school would have a tough time proving libel. Not only that, but such a court case would tarnish the image of the school moreso than the website did in the first place. The students broke school rules, therefore the school itself is the correct disciplinary authority. The school delt with a private, internal matter in a private, internal way. (Well, except for the gun thing...perhaps they overreacted a bit, but that's with the advantage of hindsight.) Their methods were a little Draconian, but not completely inappropriate.
I do agree with you in the case of the accused rape. But it seems to me that that is different since the student was alleged to have broken a law, not a school-imposed rule.
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Bingo! So why hold Linux to the same standard as Windows when it comes to ease of installation? In my experience, as of RH 7.1, Linux has surpassed Windows in both ease of installation and time to install. Yes, there are some hardware combos that will trip up even modern Linux distros, but the same can be said of Win2K & XP. On average I find Linux easier to install than Windows.
I suspect that almost anybody can pop an install CD into the drive, boot the box, click the Install [Gnome|KDE] Workstation button and click OK. That's just about all it takes nowadays given that you don't have any hardware that it doesn't recognize. I know that most of us would want to tweak our install quite a bit more than that, but doing a base install is pretty trivial these days.
I think this whole "Linux-is-hard-to-install" myth needs to die. It was once that way, but the times they are a-changin, folks.
Yeah, I didn't see those T23s w/ the built-in 802.11b until after I had put up my original post. If I had, I would have recommended it instead. Wireless internet is one of the best reasons to have a laptop.
Just out of curosity, why did you switch?
Look no further. Expensive beast, but well worth it. This page has a comparison of all the Thinkpad T models (or is that Model Ts?). You can get the T22 pre-loaded w/ Linux, but it's Caldera...ick. Check out the keyboard light, that one feature is worth the price of admission.
themes.org had such a poll a long time ago. Iirc, enlightenment "won" the poll by far. However, this is somewhat biased by the fact that enlightenment users are more likely to be hanging out on themes.org in the first place. It would cut across a more representative cross-section here on /. I think.
My own favorite is e because it is the most configurable, has the best looking themes, and pretty much stays out of my way. I also love the e pager. I'm looking forward to e17 but I hate the fact that every time a new version comes out, it breaks all the old themes. I use the GNOME panel as a launcher, but don't use any other GNOME apps such as nautilus, evolution, etc. There are some gtk+ apps that I use (grip comes to mind) and in general I think I prefer the look (given the right theme) of the gtk+ toolkit over Qt.
I played around with KDE 2.0 once and liked it especially for Windows users migrating to Linux. It was too "Windowsy" for me, but that's personal taste and can probably be helped with the proper theming. I may look into it again one of these days.
I'm not exactly sure what to look for, but I'm noticing a lot of entries in my system log like this:
Packet log: input DENY ppp0 PROTO=6 65.14.239.180:3281 [my IP]:80 L=48 S=0x00 I=29746 F=0x4000 T=118 SYN
That IP translates to cj40900-a.alex1.va.home.com. If I try to access it w/ a web browser I get:
The page cannot be displayed
There are too many people accessing the Web site at this time...clearly a MS error message due to the link to Microsoft Support at the bottom of the page.
nmap identifies the OS as Windows 2000 Pro RC1/W2K Advance Server Beta3
Is this CR? I'm guessing that it is.
I ended up just grabbing the big tarball and blowing off the net installer. It came down fine; odd that I had no trouble with it, but the net installer was choked. Different servers? I'll try it now on the Windows side of my VM and see if the Windows net installer fares any better.
Different subject....anyone notice that during the 0.8.x series of releases, everybody was trashing the crap out of the lizard and now everybody is saying how much Moz rocks?
This comment brought to you by Mozilla 0.9.3. Yum.
But the biggest improvement over 0.9.2 is in my opinion that a window that is done loading doesn't steal my focus any longer!
Man, am I glad to see this. I've been using it in Linux for quite a while, and just started using it in Windows. But that behavior was driving me nuts! I also noticed the middle button thingy in Windows. I use that all the time in Linux and did it sorta by accident when using the Windows version. My first reaction was doh! and started to right click to get the pop-up menu to open the page in a new window. But then lo and behold, the new window appeared. I'm very pleased with Mozilla and can't wait to try out 0.9.3, but can't get the net installer to run....perhaps the server is slashdotted?
I still don't use HTML mail... I saw the Exchange servers usage grow when the upper management wanted to use HTML enabled mail because it looked pretty.
I'm with you....I don't use HTML e-mail either. Mainly 'cause I'm just kind of old-school that way and think that e-mail should be text. But it's hard to make a case against HTML (to the PHBs) when you can get 45GB for $100 US. For that amount of money they'd rather have their pretty e-mail, with 7 differnt fonts in 4 colors.
Thankfully, I work at a new company and their policy is - NO MS OUTLOOK PERIOD.
Well, it's nice to see some enlightened people out there. It gives hope to the rest of us.
Not sure Nokia's the answer. My Nokia has the same problem that Yazz's has.
Let us not forget about these guys.
I agree. I first got into distributed computing when I heard about the SETI@home project. At the time,however, their client wasn't yet available. Their web page had a link to other distributed projects so I followed the one to d.net and started running their client. (Back then it moooed when it completed a block!!) Eventually the SETI client was released and I switched over to that for a while. I don't think it's pointless, but it became apparent right away that they had more than enough people helping out. So I switched back to d.net and have been contributing my cycles to the /. team ever since. Most of my work goes to OGR, though, not RC5.
If anyone is out there looking to participate in a distributed project, d.net was one of (if not THE) first and still the best in my opinion. The client is lightweight, unobtrusive and just works. They've done a great job with very limited resources and I urge you to donate your cycles to one or more of the d.net projects.
(actually, the FIRST moon landing. By #2, I think everyone was already jaded).
Quite right....actually there *were* no real-time video pix from the moon on mission #2 because they got there and found out that their camera was borked. Too bad too, because they landed near an old robot probe and visited it during their stay on the lunar surface. By #3 (the infamous Apollo 13) people were definately jaded - there were interviews with the astronauts that were never aired due to lack of interest. Until the accident, of course.
This is correct as far as it goes, but there's more. If your code is linked to GPL'd code you must GPL your code as well. Even this is still an oversimplification. The complete license itself is here.
The people that I know that use AOL LOVE AOL, in a way that nobody LOVES their ISP,
My experience is just the opposite. Everybody I know that uses AOL hates it, but is afraid to change because: a) the Internet is hard to use, b) they don't want to change e-mail addresses, or c) just plain inertia. Caveat: I don't use AOL, and never have, so I don't speak from personal experience, just what I hear others say.
Well, as others have pointed out, you can't beat the sheer elegance of Euler's Formula. But if her pain threshold is pretty high another worthy candidate would be...
In the beginning God said:
[insert Maxwell's equations]
...and there was light.
Yup, I thought of that too, but the first image I got was "The Difference Engine". A novel by William Gibson & Bruce Sterling, in case you've never heard of it.
You had ones?!? All we had were zeros. Sometimes we couldn't even get those and had to use the letter 'O'. (Apologies to Scott Adams)
If Apple were a person, I'd think of them as a creative individual with schizophrenic tendancies marked with delusions of grandeur and persecution and a possible self-destructive urge.
Ha! You just described Steve Jobs. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
I know how you feel, but stopping would be tantamount to burying your head in the sand. You might feel better, but the DMCA is still there. What you're depressed about isn't /., it's the foolishness that is this law. By continuing to read you will continue to be informed and knowledge (good or bad) is power. Hang in there.
I don't think I've ever seen an allegedly representative body so disconnected from the group it represents.
What about this one....or perhaps this one.
forward EVERY piece of uu.net originated spam to sales@uu.net, info@uu.net
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Beautiful! I'm all over it.
I have irritated the sales scum to the point they have told their pink contracts to remove my email. I used to get 7 spams a day - now its less than one a week.
I wonder if a similar thing is responsible for my decrease as well. I always forward it to abuse@uu.net (via SpamCop) despite the fact that I was convinced that the abuse@ account was a black hole that never gets read. (and it *really* irks me to get their auto-generated replies that say how they consider spam to be a serious problem and that they are going to take the appropriate measures to stop the owner of the offending account....HA) But maybe somebody *does* read that stuff and they got tired of me spamming them. The number of complaints I sent to that address every week was staggering, now it's one or two.
By the way, Vice President Clint Smith of uu.net is responsible for the pro spam stance according to spamhaus.org
Makes you wonder if *he* ever gets any spam.
If i can confirm his email, i know what i'll use for all those free reg sites!
Dude! You know where to find me.
While we're at it, let's go after the guys running open relays and ISPs (can you say UUnet?) who harbor spammers. If anything I'm more pissed off at these guys because it's so easy to close down an open relay and these people are such poor netizens that they can't be bothered.
One day I was bored so I checked my company's mail server with Spamcop and found to my surprise that we were an open relay. I contacted our sys admin and moments later the problem was solved. We then contacted Spamcop and got ourselves removed from ORBS. I think a lot of folks don't realize the magnitude of the problem and also don't realize (because they don't bother to check) that they're part of the problem. I don't know if laws will fix this (and I tend to think of laws as a last resort anyway). Maybe awareness is the first step. I like to believe that most people would like to be good netizens if they knew how.
UUnet is another matter. They clearly know exaclty what they're doing and don't care because they're making money. Something must be done, but I'd still prefer that the internet community somehow solve this problem without getting governments involved.
Having said all that, I've noticed that the amount of spam I get from uunet is greatly reduced lately. Anybody else notice this? Maybe they've cleaned up their act a bit after a flood of spam crashed one of their networks in Britain. Pure speculation, of course, but I've definately seen a decrease in spam originating from uunet.
Then I think that the rules are probably incorrect. Using school rules to mussle students is not really great. There might be some justification if the students were using school equipment. In the case of the domain name this appears not to be the case.
I don't like the rules either, but that's only my opinion. There is nothing illegal about them and the parents were free to not send their kids to that school. In a way it's like an EULA. Here are the rules you must abide by to be educated here. Don't like 'em? Go someplace else.
Just out of curiosity for non US readers, I can't understand why this does not break the first amendment rules. Surely it applies automatically and the fact that the school is private is irrelevant.
... they should use the libel laws as recourse.
I suggest you read the 1st amendment. That should clear up your confusion. It says that Congress shall pass no law inihibiting the freedom of speech, religion or press. They didn't.
I strongly disagree. First of all, it's questionable whether the students broke any laws. I think the school would have a tough time proving libel. Not only that, but such a court case would tarnish the image of the school moreso than the website did in the first place. The students broke school rules, therefore the school itself is the correct disciplinary authority. The school delt with a private, internal matter in a private, internal way. (Well, except for the gun thing...perhaps they overreacted a bit, but that's with the advantage of hindsight.) Their methods were a little Draconian, but not completely inappropriate.
I do agree with you in the case of the accused rape. But it seems to me that that is different since the student was alleged to have broken a law, not a school-imposed rule.