Why didn't your company want to release the kernel mods back to the community? It's not like they were gonna make any money off them - they get paid for the embedded app, not the OS it runs on. I could understand if you were giving away something proprietary, but it doesn't seem to me that releasing those changes would have hurt your company one little bit. In fact, if you had released them, someone else might have come along and improved on your improvements.
Seriously, there needs to be some sort of exam, like a driver's license, before people can get net access... Not a bad idea, but who do you think would end up in charge of administering these exams? Yup, you guessed it, just another revenue stream for our friends in Redmond.
I think instead, there should be some sort of natural selection at work. If the lusers spreading Code Red and Nimda (not to mention Goner) were somehow made to pay for their transgressions, they might be motivated to learn how to be responsible netizens.
I'll second that. Up until I moved a few weeks ago, I had Sprint DSL with Earthlink as an ISP and I was very happy with my service. All my friends with @Home cable from Comcast were moaning about outages during the height of the Code Red/Nimda season. Meanwhile my service was rock solid. In a year and a half, I had 2 outages, both following hella-nasty Florida thunderstorms and no outages at all in the last 10-12 months. I dislike Sprint because they're a royal pain to deal with, but I have to admit that my service was exceptional.
It does take some skill to set up properly, more than the average windows user typically uses,...
Yes, but the average windows user doesn't bother to properly set up his machine. Thus Code Red, Nimda, et al. In fact the average Windows user probably couldn't even install the OS if he had to. I think it's actually easier to properly set up a Linux machine than a Windows one, but the key there is properly set up.
But I see them as a craft, not an art. Why are these things mutually exclusive? Painting is a craft; using that craft to create, say, the Mona Lisa, is art. The art is the idea behind it, the craft is the translation of that idea into a tangible form.
I agree with the poster who said that if the creator says it's art, then it's art. If he/she is trying to convey some message or emotion by it, that makes it art. How successful they were at expressing that message determines whether it is good art or not.
I remember an issue of Sky & Telescope (or maybe it was Astronomy) from a couple of years ago that had a rundown of the (at the time) 4 competing designs - each from a different contractor. It was in that article that they mentioned stationing it near Jupiter. Since it will be optimised for infrared wavelengths it was important that it be made insensitive to the infrared radiation of the Sun. It was also to have a large shield behind the instrument for the same reason. Perhaps they now feel the shield will be sufficient and/or can save money by not having to boost it all the way to the outer solar system.
The NGST will... be stationed in higher orbit, and be capable of gathering data farther into the infrared spectrum.
Last I heard the NGST will be stationed far from the Sun (somewhere around Jupiter's orbit) to get away from the infrared "noise" of the interior solar system. Is this no longer the case?
I saw him recently in a short blurb in a ST:TNG marathon on TNN. He was talking about being noticed by some good looking women and wondering if it was because they thought he was cute or because he was on Star Trek. Then he realized that it was because he was on Star Trek goddammit. That last bit was bleeped of course.
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Thanks....I'm glad it wasn't just me.
He either duplicated his mistake again in the 'correction' or there was never any mistake to begin with. Color me confused.
Perhaps, but the results would be skewed by firewalls. For example, I have three Linux boxen but they're sitting behind an OpenBSD firewall so they don't get counted. At work I used to run a few Linux machines, but they were hidden behind an NT proxy server. But still, these results may be more accurate than what they've got now.
OGR has applications in X-ray crystallography and radio astronomy. Not the same as curing cancer, but it does have *some* (no matter how slight) practical application.
Years ago, when I was living in Houston, I listened to the Rice Univ. radio station (call sign KTRU? can't remember) almost all the time. It had something like a 5 mile radius, but that didn't matter since I lived downtown. The DJs would play 10-15 songs in a row and then tell you what they were in reverse order. So if you heard a song you liked, but didn't know the name of, you had to remember the song that came after it and listen for it when they listed all the titles. I can remember sitting in my car for upwards of 20 minutes waiting for the DJ to come on and announce the name of a song I heard that I absolutely HAD to find out the name of.
I realize this is OT, but I was wondering who you worked for in the early 80's. I worked for Dresser Atlas (now Western Atlas) back then. I designed logging equipment. I ventured out to the oil patch once in a while to do field testing of new logging tools and yes, you're correct, it sucked. Big time.
Disclaimer: I haven't actually used FP so what I'm about to say may be totally bogus. If so, hopefully someone will pull my head out of my ass for me.
Web components are server-side programs that you can use to display things like MSNBC headlines and stock market reports in your web page. I assume they use some non-standard way of doing this like ActiveX or something. What the EULA is restricting (imo) is the use of these components in a web page that slams M$, or serves up pr0n, or whatever. I *don't* think the EULA is prohibiting one from using FP to build a web site critical of M$.
Me neither, but I would tend to think that "The Software" in this context refers only to: "Microsoft Frontpage Web components, including the MSNBC news headline component, the MSN MoneyCentral Stock Quote component, and the MSN Search component" plus later updates and add-ons that don't include their own EULA. This is certainly not the same as FrontPage as a whole (ie, the web authoring tool). Also, iirc, in the copy of the EULA I saw, there was a paragraph just before the offending clause that again restricted the definition of "The Software" to refer specifically to the Web Components, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I still think this is pretty offensive, arrogant, and downright rude. But it's not as bad as some people are saying. In a way, I wish it *was* like that. I'd love to see them try to defend it in court: "Why does a 9 foot tall Wookie live on a planet of 3 foot tall Ewoks? It makes no sense!! Look at the monkey, look at the silly monkey."
What is the definition of the term "The Software" used in that EULA? The one I saw yesterday defined it in a prior paragraph specifically as the web componenents. Does this one not include that definition? Or is it defined differently? It's hard to evaluate that clause because without the definition it's somewhat out of context.
The Marines are considered part of the Navy and when that document was written, no one even concieved of an Air Force. It's one of those things that have to be interpreted in the context of modern times. The interpretation in this case is "all of the military".
That's right!! Why in *my* day, we didn't have all these fancy windows and icons. All we had were zeros and ones. And sometimes we didn't even have the ones! I once wrote an entire database using only zeros.
Good point, but it's very unlikely that a rock from Earth could make it all the way to Mars. We find lots of Martian rocks here on Earth because Earth is 'downhill' from Mars (deeper in the Sun's gravitational well). It would take quite a large impact to do it the other way around - I'm not sure even the Dinosaur Killer would have been big enough. Of course, 'very unlikely' isn't the same as 'impossible', but still....
There's always the debate: Is is spam or is it not spam? It's like the porno debate of a few decades ago - I know it when I see it but it's hard to define in law. Well, faking headers and using open relays are two of the ways you can tell for sure. If it's legit (ie, you opted-in), there's no need for the subterfuge.
I just love spam that at the bottom says: "This is not spam, blah, blah, blah....." Then why are you sending it through an open relay and pretending to be someone else???
However, as much as I hate spam, I agree with the original poster. The court doesn't know whether these guys are spammers. Better to err on the side of caution than put some struggling company out of business by mistake. I hope justice prevails in the end, though. And by that I mean that the spammers should be forced to listen to Britney Spears for 20-life. On second thought...that's not harsh enough.
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Why didn't your company want to release the kernel mods back to the community? It's not like they were gonna make any money off them - they get paid for the embedded app, not the OS it runs on. I could understand if you were giving away something proprietary, but it doesn't seem to me that releasing those changes would have hurt your company one little bit. In fact, if you had released them, someone else might have come along and improved on your improvements.
Seriously, there needs to be some sort of exam, like a driver's license, before people can get net access...
Not a bad idea, but who do you think would end up in charge of administering these exams? Yup, you guessed it, just another revenue stream for our friends in Redmond.
I think instead, there should be some sort of natural selection at work. If the lusers spreading Code Red and Nimda (not to mention Goner) were somehow made to pay for their transgressions, they might be motivated to learn how to be responsible netizens.
Bah is right!
I'll second that. Up until I moved a few weeks ago, I had Sprint DSL with Earthlink as an ISP and I was very happy with my service. All my friends with @Home cable from Comcast were moaning about outages during the height of the Code Red/Nimda season. Meanwhile my service was rock solid. In a year and a half, I had 2 outages, both following hella-nasty Florida thunderstorms and no outages at all in the last 10-12 months. I dislike Sprint because they're a royal pain to deal with, but I have to admit that my service was exceptional.
It does take some skill to set up properly, more than the average windows user typically uses, ...
Yes, but the average windows user doesn't bother to properly set up his machine. Thus Code Red, Nimda, et al. In fact the average Windows user probably couldn't even install the OS if he had to. I think it's actually easier to properly set up a Linux machine than a Windows one, but the key there is properly set up.
How 'bout: "So fast it can execute an infinite loop in 15 seconds."
SMC has an AP, a PCI card and a PCMCIA card. Sounds like a suite to me.
Yeah! Not to mention how fast AOL will run now!
But I see them as a craft, not an art.
Why are these things mutually exclusive? Painting is a craft; using that craft to create, say, the Mona Lisa, is art. The art is the idea behind it, the craft is the translation of that idea into a tangible form.
I agree with the poster who said that if the creator says it's art, then it's art. If he/she is trying to convey some message or emotion by it, that makes it art. How successful they were at expressing that message determines whether it is good art or not.
I remember an issue of Sky & Telescope (or maybe it was Astronomy) from a couple of years ago that had a rundown of the (at the time) 4 competing designs - each from a different contractor. It was in that article that they mentioned stationing it near Jupiter. Since it will be optimised for infrared wavelengths it was important that it be made insensitive to the infrared radiation of the Sun. It was also to have a large shield behind the instrument for the same reason. Perhaps they now feel the shield will be sufficient and/or can save money by not having to boost it all the way to the outer solar system.
The NGST will ... be stationed in higher orbit, and be capable of gathering data farther into the infrared spectrum.
Last I heard the NGST will be stationed far from the Sun (somewhere around Jupiter's orbit) to get away from the infrared "noise" of the interior solar system. Is this no longer the case?
I saw him recently in a short blurb in a ST:TNG marathon on TNN. He was talking about being noticed by some good looking women and wondering if it was because they thought he was cute or because he was on Star Trek. Then he realized that it was because he was on Star Trek goddammit. That last bit was bleeped of course.
Thanks....I'm glad it wasn't just me.
He either duplicated his mistake again in the 'correction' or there was never any mistake to begin with. Color me confused.
Perhaps, but the results would be skewed by firewalls. For example, I have three Linux boxen but they're sitting behind an OpenBSD firewall so they don't get counted. At work I used to run a few Linux machines, but they were hidden behind an NT proxy server. But still, these results may be more accurate than what they've got now.
OGR has applications in X-ray crystallography and radio astronomy. Not the same as curing cancer, but it does have *some* (no matter how slight) practical application.
Years ago, when I was living in Houston, I listened to the Rice Univ. radio station (call sign KTRU? can't remember) almost all the time. It had something like a 5 mile radius, but that didn't matter since I lived downtown. The DJs would play 10-15 songs in a row and then tell you what they were in reverse order. So if you heard a song you liked, but didn't know the name of, you had to remember the song that came after it and listen for it when they listed all the titles. I can remember sitting in my car for upwards of 20 minutes waiting for the DJ to come on and announce the name of a song I heard that I absolutely HAD to find out the name of.
I realize this is OT, but I was wondering who you worked for in the early 80's. I worked for Dresser Atlas (now Western Atlas) back then. I designed logging equipment. I ventured out to the oil patch once in a while to do field testing of new logging tools and yes, you're correct, it sucked. Big time.
Disclaimer: I haven't actually used FP so what I'm about to say may be totally bogus. If so, hopefully someone will pull my head out of my ass for me.
Web components are server-side programs that you can use to display things like MSNBC headlines and stock market reports in your web page. I assume they use some non-standard way of doing this like ActiveX or something. What the EULA is restricting (imo) is the use of these components in a web page that slams M$, or serves up pr0n, or whatever. I *don't* think the EULA is prohibiting one from using FP to build a web site critical of M$.
Me neither, but I would tend to think that "The Software" in this context refers only to: "Microsoft Frontpage Web components, including the MSNBC news headline component, the MSN MoneyCentral Stock Quote component, and the MSN Search component" plus later updates and add-ons that don't include their own EULA. This is certainly not the same as FrontPage as a whole (ie, the web authoring tool). Also, iirc, in the copy of the EULA I saw, there was a paragraph just before the offending clause that again restricted the definition of "The Software" to refer specifically to the Web Components, etc.
Don't get me wrong, I still think this is pretty offensive, arrogant, and downright rude. But it's not as bad as some people are saying. In a way, I wish it *was* like that. I'd love to see them try to defend it in court: "Why does a 9 foot tall Wookie live on a planet of 3 foot tall Ewoks? It makes no sense!! Look at the monkey, look at the silly monkey."
Yes it is, but save yourself the grief. It's truly disgusting. Worse than goatsex. Unix, by contrast, has 3 paragraphs.
What is the definition of the term "The Software" used in that EULA? The one I saw yesterday defined it in a prior paragraph specifically as the web componenents. Does this one not include that definition? Or is it defined differently? It's hard to evaluate that clause because without the definition it's somewhat out of context.
Interesting observation.....
The Marines are considered part of the Navy and when that document was written, no one even concieved of an Air Force. It's one of those things that have to be interpreted in the context of modern times. The interpretation in this case is "all of the military".
That's right!! Why in *my* day, we didn't have all these fancy windows and icons. All we had were zeros and ones. And sometimes we didn't even have the ones! I once wrote an entire database using only zeros.
And we *liked* it!
(apologies to Scott Adams and Dana Carvey)
Who else is missing?!? Tim Berners-Lee? Bill Gates? Bjourne?
Bill Joy is still the man in my book for the original vi. But you could name names all day.
Good point, but it's very unlikely that a rock from Earth could make it all the way to Mars. We find lots of Martian rocks here on Earth because Earth is 'downhill' from Mars (deeper in the Sun's gravitational well). It would take quite a large impact to do it the other way around - I'm not sure even the Dinosaur Killer would have been big enough. Of course, 'very unlikely' isn't the same as 'impossible', but still....
There's always the debate: Is is spam or is it not spam? It's like the porno debate of a few decades ago - I know it when I see it but it's hard to define in law. Well, faking headers and using open relays are two of the ways you can tell for sure. If it's legit (ie, you opted-in), there's no need for the subterfuge.
I just love spam that at the bottom says: "This is not spam, blah, blah, blah....." Then why are you sending it through an open relay and pretending to be someone else???
However, as much as I hate spam, I agree with the original poster. The court doesn't know whether these guys are spammers. Better to err on the side of caution than put some struggling company out of business by mistake. I hope justice prevails in the end, though. And by that I mean that the spammers should be forced to listen to Britney Spears for 20-life. On second thought...that's not harsh enough.