Look the point of the matter is, the supreme court WAS close in the end, however , my seven conservatives comment was sarcasm. The 5-4 part of the decision was indeed thin (though quite typical for the court), and not split along partisan-appointee lines (in agreement with what you say).
If you want to talk about potentially election destroying events, how about Florida being called in the news before Floridian polls even closed? That could easily have had an effect on turnout to the west. I posted what I did in reply and in kind to "Doc 'Conspiracy' Ruby." There's no conspiracy, that's my point. All this talk of "if this, and if that, then it SHOULD have been like this" makes me really nervous. In 2004 IF the youth vote had been as reliably democratic as the news had said and IF blah blah, then Kerry would have won. It's hypotheticals, and I find it rather worrisome that it's become a theme of elections in the US.
On the question of irregularities, it does interest me that razor thin margin Florida from 2000 went much more red in 2004. Makes me wonder..
With regards to who REALLY won--it is my understand that if Gore had won the scotus case, and had gotten the recount he favor, that would have resulted in a Bush win. The partial recounts of the counties in question would have resulted in a Bush win. THe only case that would have resulted in a Gore win were a statewide recount, with a very particular set of standards that I'm not sure were reasonable (overvotes I believe?)
FWIW I voted for kooky old Badnarik in '04. Interestingly enough, a friend of mine used to work at a breakfast restaurant in a college town. Apaprently Badnarik came to speak to some campus organization and later went to this restaurant while my friend was working. My friend described Badnarik as "annoying loud" and said he was basically preaching to this two infatuated students. Got his signature too I think, funny.
Also, FWIW, I would mandate optical scan ballots nationwide. Fill in the arrow. Nice and big. Easy to count. Easy paper trail. None of this hanging chad bullshit, mechanical nonsense, or untrackable evoting bullshit.
I don't see the world groaning, I think it's doing pretty well actually.
Let me say I'm SHOCKED that when you google "gore won recount" you get sites that say that. Why, according to google you get 667,000 of them! But when you type "bush won recount" you get 2,230,000 hits.
What's that tell us? Absolutely nothing. That's the stupidest metric in the world. Read the articles, read the standards, and read the recounts. The data is out there, and analyzed by multiple organization. Hell, check Wikipedia even, if you don't believe it.
I'm not a huge fan of Bush for what it's worth--but imho he's better than the alternatives.
I guess I'll go back to the fascist media that's controlling what we read and write even now..EVEN NOW!!! Good thing I'm happy, or all these lies you think I'm swallowing (but the data doesn't support) would give me indigestion.
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Oh, just as a sidebar--buzzword parrot? let's check your post Fascist? check conspiracy? check elite? check lies? check propaganda? check
Yep, that's about the litany of left-wing attacks, I wonder who truly IS a buzzword parrot here? Any thoughts?
You've got me, it's me, Denny Hastert. And I spend my time replying to posts on Slashdot. But that's because I like the site. And I don't think you're right on this issue. But that's ok, because I do what I have to do.
(probably unsuccesful attempt to pardoy Hastert's "blog")
Wow, for you the world is just conspiracy after conspriacy isn't it? It must be an interesting place, I however prefer reality.
The supreme court installed Bush? That's a very novel way of looking at it, and an incorrect one. Interesting how those seven hardcore radical rightwing justices declared the Florida recount standards unconstitutional. Interesting how the Supreme Court can't "install" anyone at all--they can only rule on matters of law.
But let's go with your conspiracy theorist "the scary Republicans are out to get me!" theory--perhaps you could explain then why numerous recounts after the elections all confirmed Bush the winner? Is that a conspiracy too?
It's becoming quite alarming to me today how the left is becoming increasingly undemocratic in their attempts to undermine our democracy of the people. I'm actually quite worried about this tendency and the growing elitism of leftists to rely not on votes, but on arbitrary standards.
Since you apparently only read the first paragraph
"Under the enrolled bill rule, once an election for the adoption of a statute is held, the procedural method by which the measure was placed on the ballot cannot be challenged with a lawsuit since judicial inquiry into legislative procedure is barred as an intrusion into the internal affairs of the lawmaking body."
In addition, citing Field v Clark (credit goes to a VC poster for citation)
"From Field v. Clark: "The signing by the speaker of the house of representatives, and by the president of the senate, in open session, of an enrolled bill, is an official attestation.... And when a bill, thus attested, has received receives [the President's] approval, and is deposited in the public archives, its authentication as a bill that has passed congress should be deemed complete and unimpeachable." (143 U.S. 649, 672 (1892)) "
The long and short of it is, it's clear the judiciary will not (and SHOULD not) do anything--the clear precedent shows this. If there's no legal recourse, then whining about twisted rules or what not is irrelevant--there's a punishable crime, or there's not. In this case, there is clearly not.
and thanks for responding, I always like when people actually do respond on slashdot (too often people don't..)
Learn some history, stop wearing your rose tinted glasses, realize that things aren't as bad as you think they are (and that things weren't as good as you think they were) and then get over yourself.
Here, here! Amongst my favorite games of all times.. I think it might be time to play through them again soon in fact!
Though personally, I found 5 HUGELY disappointing... I almost don't consider it part of the series, but I love the first 4.
Ooh, and if you haven't heard about it, you shoudl check out http://www.agdinteractive.com/. They're working on a VGA remake of QG2! Should be good.
Also, there's a fan-made game scrapped together out of pieces of various Sierra games called Quest for Glory 4.5. It's...interesting to say the least. I had fun playing it.
Uhm, this gets informative? The Rad6000 chip runs at 20mhz according to wikipedia and 25mhz according to other sources. The chip is based on EARLY power cpu designs (think early/mid 1990s), and most definitely does NOT include any sort of altivec technology.
No radiation hardened space suitable chips are "cheap." Expect to spend tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars per CPU.
That's not to say it's not a great chip for what it does, but come on...
"The rule used by a number of British dictionaries, is that words with a Greek root take the -ize suffix and those with a Latin root take -ise. This explains the large number of -izes in a British dictionary."
Interestingly I remember reading a Southern pride type website a couple of years ago, in which it was suggested that southerns re-adopt British spellings--colour etc. Funny.
I'm not quite sure why this article is a big deal? As far as I know a number of schools have been requiring laptops for years. I know UNC-Chapel Hill has for maybe 5 years now (while its neighbor Duke gives incoming freshman ipods)
So the poster claims that republicans tend to be vocal about "hot button issues." he claims that there are a great deal of "closet bigot" republicans.
Examining the questions in the survey, they are all simple questions. They are for the most part value based questions, and many of them are answerable by degrees.
So you tell me--if you call someone who disagrees with you on value based questions a biggot, are you yourself a biggot?
So does claiming that Republicans are reactionary vocal bigots make you a bigot?
"A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own."
Hmmm...
Also, I find it somewhat interesting that you use opensecrets as an example of a site used mostly by the left. it's funny, becuase I've always thought the opposite--that it shows just how much corporate money goes to Democrats, top donors etc. That's the good thing about the site though, it shows EVERYONE's info.
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No, actually you're wrong as several other posters have pointed out.
Carbon and Cocoa are not programming languages, correct. Cocoa is accessed via Objective-C and formerly Java (formerly as its being deprecated). So, if you have a Cocoa app, it's pretty much guaranteed to be written in Objective-C.
Likewise, the prime languages that are used by Carbon are C and C++. I cannot think of an example of a Carbon program that is written in Objective-C (I'm not saying that they don't exist at all, just that I know of no examples). Generally Carbon is used by several types of programs-- 1) crossplatform apps that have large codebases in C/C++ and don't want to mess with Objective-C at all.. 2) Older mac apps that have codebases originating pre-OSX (LIKE iTUNES, Photoshop [crossplatform eg too], the Finder, etc) 3) mac programmers who don't want to mess with Objective-C.
Carbon is the API for people who DON'T use Objective-C and Cocoa, is one way of putting it.
Apple recently posted a job ad for someone to work on the next gen of the Finder. It's written in Carbon. So is the next gen. Guess what language they were advertising for--that's right! C++ with STL (and Boost nonetheless).
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No actually your point is wrong.
Carbon and Objective C are not the same things--that much is correct. However it stands that Cocoa apps are written in Objective-C (and formerly in Java) and Carbon apps are written in languages like C and C++. If a program is a Carbon app, you can pretty much guarantee that it is not written in Objective-C. When you have the case of a program like iTunes that has always been developed as a Carbon app that could even dual run on OS9/OSX in previous versions, you are pretty much guaranteed that it is both a Carbon and a C/C++ app.
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Yes, you're absolutely right. Photoshop is one of the only major carbon apps left around.
Let's see...except for Microsoft Office. Blizzard's world of warcraft. APPLE's iTunes. Hell, did I mention the FINDER. (and countless, countless others)
Get with it, Carbon alone is not a reason to criticize a program.
Uhm, I'm not sure I agree with this at all. SOME areas maybe more developed, but there are some critical features for me missing from the Mac version--such as support for RTL languages in Word. I don't use Entourage, so I can't comment, but in general I find Word and Powerpoint both more fully featured on the PC (I've run into some powerpoint features that aren't supported on mac as well)
Check out the page. It lets Quicktime play wmv. I don't believe it's originally made by MS (not sure) but they are distributing a basic playback version for free. There's a more advanced version that lets one edit video streams as well. This is very cool, and better than dealing with the WMV player for Mac... Almost as annoying as Quicktime client for windows. Any way--mac, windows, linux/*bsd...I use mplayer or vlc. The odd wmv is the only thing I use wmv for, and this appears to solve that need.
I have a 15" powerbook, approximately 20 months old. I am on my *3rd* power cord (with the brick). It just does NOT work well. I've heard the same complaints from friends and others. The connector where it hooks into the notebook is very weak. Even now, on my 3rd connector (about 3 months old) I need to wiggle sometimes, move it around, to get it to work. The first one caught on fire about 11 months after I had it--CAUGHT ON FIRE. The second one last about a year (after I was VERY careful with it, and actually put tape around it to hold it steady. The third one looks like it will have a similar lifespan. I hate hate hate the power connector.
Hear, hear to the etymotics! I've used a pair of ER6's and now ER6i's--I love them. Thanks to the sound isolation I listen at a much lower volume, and can actually here more details thanks to the higher quality. They're expensive but worth it. FWIW, other similiar "canalphones" inclue the "Shure" line, that I've seen sold at Apple stores.
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Look the point of the matter is, the supreme court WAS close in the end, however , my seven conservatives comment was sarcasm. The 5-4 part of the decision was indeed thin (though quite typical for the court), and not split along partisan-appointee lines (in agreement with what you say).
If you want to talk about potentially election destroying events, how about Florida being called in the news before Floridian polls even closed? That could easily have had an effect on turnout to the west. I posted what I did in reply and in kind to "Doc 'Conspiracy' Ruby." There's no conspiracy, that's my point. All this talk of "if this, and if that, then it SHOULD have been like this" makes me really nervous. In 2004 IF the youth vote had been as reliably democratic as the news had said and IF blah blah, then Kerry would have won. It's hypotheticals, and I find it rather worrisome that it's become a theme of elections in the US.
On the question of irregularities, it does interest me that razor thin margin Florida from 2000 went much more red in 2004. Makes me wonder..
With regards to who REALLY won--it is my understand that if Gore had won the scotus case, and had gotten the recount he favor, that would have resulted in a Bush win. The partial recounts of the counties in question would have resulted in a Bush win. THe only case that would have resulted in a Gore win were a statewide recount, with a very particular set of standards that I'm not sure were reasonable (overvotes I believe?)
FWIW I voted for kooky old Badnarik in '04. Interestingly enough, a friend of mine used to work at a breakfast restaurant in a college town. Apaprently Badnarik came to speak to some campus organization and later went to this restaurant while my friend was working. My friend described Badnarik as "annoying loud" and said he was basically preaching to this two infatuated students. Got his signature too I think, funny.
Also, FWIW, I would mandate optical scan ballots nationwide. Fill in the arrow. Nice and big. Easy to count. Easy paper trail. None of this hanging chad bullshit, mechanical nonsense, or untrackable evoting bullshit.
I don't see the world groaning, I think it's doing pretty well actually.
Let me say I'm SHOCKED that when you google "gore won recount" you get sites that say that. Why, according to google you get 667,000 of them! But when you type "bush won recount" you get 2,230,000 hits.
What's that tell us? Absolutely nothing. That's the stupidest metric in the world. Read the articles, read the standards, and read the recounts. The data is out there, and analyzed by multiple organization. Hell, check Wikipedia even, if you don't believe it.
I'm not a huge fan of Bush for what it's worth--but imho he's better than the alternatives.
I guess I'll go back to the fascist media that's controlling what we read and write even now..EVEN NOW!!! Good thing I'm happy, or all these lies you think I'm swallowing (but the data doesn't support) would give me indigestion.
--
Oh, just as a sidebar--buzzword parrot? let's check your post
Fascist? check
conspiracy? check
elite? check
lies? check
propaganda? check
Yep, that's about the litany of left-wing attacks, I wonder who truly IS a buzzword parrot here? Any thoughts?
You've got me, it's me, Denny Hastert. And I spend my time replying to posts on Slashdot. But that's because I like the site. And I don't think you're right on this issue. But that's ok, because I do what I have to do.
(probably unsuccesful attempt to pardoy Hastert's "blog")
Wow, for you the world is just conspiracy after conspriacy isn't it? It must be an interesting place, I however prefer reality.
The supreme court installed Bush? That's a very novel way of looking at it, and an incorrect one. Interesting how those seven hardcore radical rightwing justices declared the Florida recount standards unconstitutional. Interesting how the Supreme Court can't "install" anyone at all--they can only rule on matters of law.
But let's go with your conspiracy theorist "the scary Republicans are out to get me!" theory--perhaps you could explain then why numerous recounts after the elections all confirmed Bush the winner? Is that a conspiracy too?
It's becoming quite alarming to me today how the left is becoming increasingly undemocratic in their attempts to undermine our democracy of the people. I'm actually quite worried about this tendency and the growing elitism of leftists to rely not on votes, but on arbitrary standards.
Since you apparently only read the first paragraph
"Under the enrolled bill rule, once an election for the adoption of a statute is held, the procedural method by which the measure was placed on the ballot cannot be challenged with a lawsuit since judicial inquiry into legislative procedure is barred as an intrusion into the internal affairs of the lawmaking body."
In addition, citing Field v Clark (credit goes to a VC poster for citation)
"From Field v. Clark: "The signing by the speaker of the house of representatives, and by the president of the senate, in open session, of an enrolled bill, is an official attestation.... And when a bill, thus attested, has received receives [the President's] approval, and is deposited in the public archives, its authentication as a bill that has passed congress should be deemed complete and unimpeachable." (143 U.S. 649, 672 (1892)) "
The long and short of it is, it's clear the judiciary will not (and SHOULD not) do anything--the clear precedent shows this. If there's no legal recourse, then whining about twisted rules or what not is irrelevant--there's a punishable crime, or there's not. In this case, there is clearly not.
and thanks for responding, I always like when people actually do respond on slashdot (too often people don't..)
Not that there is a bat's chance read these, but I invite you to research the enrolled bill rule, with reference to the scotus case Field v. Clark.
I'll even give you a start: http://www.answers.com/topic/enrolled-bill
Learn some history, stop wearing your rose tinted glasses, realize that things aren't as bad as you think they are (and that things weren't as good as you think they were) and then get over yourself.
check out http://www.agdinteractive.com/
:)
Very exciting to me
Also there's a fan game called "Quest for glory 4.5" that is.. interesting (and fun)
Here, here! Amongst my favorite games of all times.. I think it might be time to play through them again soon in fact!
... I almost don't consider it part of the series, but I love the first 4.
Though personally, I found 5 HUGELY disappointing
Ooh, and if you haven't heard about it, you shoudl check out http://www.agdinteractive.com/. They're working on a VGA remake of QG2! Should be good.
Also, there's a fan-made game scrapped together out of pieces of various Sierra games called Quest for Glory 4.5. It's...interesting to say the least. I had fun playing it.
Uhm, this gets informative? The Rad6000 chip runs at 20mhz according to wikipedia and 25mhz according to other sources. The chip is based on EARLY power cpu designs (think early/mid 1990s), and most definitely does NOT include any sort of altivec technology.
No radiation hardened space suitable chips are "cheap." Expect to spend tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars per CPU.
That's not to say it's not a great chip for what it does, but come on...
FWIW
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/A1006507
"The rule used by a number of British dictionaries, is that words with a Greek root take the -ize suffix and those with a Latin root take -ise. This explains the large number of -izes in a British dictionary."
Interestingly I remember reading a Southern pride type website a couple of years ago, in which it was suggested that southerns re-adopt British spellings--colour etc. Funny.
Hm... I didn't say anything about the ipods being free.
I'm not quite sure why this article is a big deal? As far as I know a number of schools have been requiring laptops for years. I know UNC-Chapel Hill has for maybe 5 years now (while its neighbor Duke gives incoming freshman ipods)
~shrug~
I like how you get modded up..but anyway.
So the poster claims that republicans tend to be vocal about "hot button issues." he claims that there are a great deal of "closet bigot" republicans.
Examining the questions in the survey, they are all simple questions. They are for the most part value based questions, and many of them are answerable by degrees.
So you tell me--if you call someone who disagrees with you on value based questions a biggot, are you yourself a biggot?
Thanks for the link to the image--I noticed also on the image the name entry "b, a" -- guess people can enter false information! (surpising!)
So does claiming that Republicans are reactionary vocal bigots make you a bigot?
"A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own."
Hmmm...
Also, I find it somewhat interesting that you use opensecrets as an example of a site used mostly by the left. it's funny, becuase I've always thought the opposite--that it shows just how much corporate money goes to Democrats, top donors etc. That's the good thing about the site though, it shows EVERYONE's info.
No, actually you're wrong as several other posters have pointed out.
Carbon and Cocoa are not programming languages, correct. Cocoa is accessed via Objective-C and formerly Java (formerly as its being deprecated). So, if you have a Cocoa app, it's pretty much guaranteed to be written in Objective-C.
Likewise, the prime languages that are used by Carbon are C and C++. I cannot think of an example of a Carbon program that is written in Objective-C (I'm not saying that they don't exist at all, just that I know of no examples). Generally Carbon is used by several types of programs--
1) crossplatform apps that have large codebases in C/C++ and don't want to mess with Objective-C at all..
2) Older mac apps that have codebases originating pre-OSX (LIKE iTUNES, Photoshop [crossplatform eg too], the Finder, etc)
3) mac programmers who don't want to mess with Objective-C.
Carbon is the API for people who DON'T use Objective-C and Cocoa, is one way of putting it.
Apple recently posted a job ad for someone to work on the next gen of the Finder. It's written in Carbon. So is the next gen. Guess what language they were advertising for--that's right! C++ with STL (and Boost nonetheless).
No actually your point is wrong.
Carbon and Objective C are not the same things--that much is correct. However it stands that Cocoa apps are written in Objective-C (and formerly in Java) and Carbon apps are written in languages like C and C++. If a program is a Carbon app, you can pretty much guarantee that it is not written in Objective-C. When you have the case of a program like iTunes that has always been developed as a Carbon app that could even dual run on OS9/OSX in previous versions, you are pretty much guaranteed that it is both a Carbon and a C/C++ app.
Um, AFAIK, iTunes isn't written in Objective-C.
Last time I checked it was indeed a Carbon app.
Yes, you're absolutely right. Photoshop is one of the only major carbon apps left around.
Let's see...except for Microsoft Office. Blizzard's world of warcraft. APPLE's iTunes. Hell, did I mention the FINDER. (and countless, countless others)
Get with it, Carbon alone is not a reason to criticize a program.
Uhm, I'm not sure I agree with this at all. SOME areas maybe more developed, but there are some critical features for me missing from the Mac version--such as support for RTL languages in Word. I don't use Entourage, so I can't comment, but in general I find Word and Powerpoint both more fully featured on the PC (I've run into some powerpoint features that aren't supported on mac as well)
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/play er/flip4mac.mspx
Check out the page. It lets Quicktime play wmv. I don't believe it's originally made by MS (not sure) but they are distributing a basic playback version for free. There's a more advanced version that lets one edit video streams as well. This is very cool, and better than dealing with the WMV player for Mac... Almost as annoying as Quicktime client for windows. Any way--mac, windows, linux/*bsd...I use mplayer or vlc. The odd wmv is the only thing I use wmv for, and this appears to solve that need.
Lucky you! http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/play er/flip4mac.mspx. They've provided a way to keep watching.
I have a 15" powerbook, approximately 20 months old. I am on my *3rd* power cord (with the brick). It just does NOT work well. I've heard the same complaints from friends and others. The connector where it hooks into the notebook is very weak. Even now, on my 3rd connector (about 3 months old) I need to wiggle sometimes, move it around, to get it to work. The first one caught on fire about 11 months after I had it--CAUGHT ON FIRE. The second one last about a year (after I was VERY careful with it, and actually put tape around it to hold it steady. The third one looks like it will have a similar lifespan. I hate hate hate the power connector.
Other than that, I love the powerbook!
Hear, hear to the etymotics! I've used a pair of ER6's and now ER6i's--I love them. Thanks to the sound isolation I listen at a much lower volume, and can actually here more details thanks to the higher quality. They're expensive but worth it. FWIW, other similiar "canalphones" inclue the "Shure" line, that I've seen sold at Apple stores.