Yeah. They are very professional. Don't get my statement wrong. I meant it a in begrudgingly admiring way. The Virginia State Police are very pleasant and professional about it when they toss you into the Greenville Penitentiary. Never give any lip to a Virginia trooper on a traffic stop because the judge will never believe that the trooper instigated any confrontation.
PS. It is "The Commonwealth of Virginia" not the "State of Virginia."
Wow, does that mean it still belongs to us [parliament.uk]?
Nope, but kick out Bush's lapdog Blair and we might give it back in kind. I'll throw in Tennessee (just had a tune-up and a new tires installed) and South Dakota (slightly used) for the hell of it.
As a gennilman raised in Vehjenya, I can tell you this, they do not fuck around. Illegal gun: 5 years. Use a firearm in commission of a felony: 5 years on top of 20 years for whatever you did. Simple pot possession: 12 months. Radar detector: fat fine, car searched and mucho points on the license. It goes on and on. The old joke is that Virginia has a law against everything and two laws against most things, and never get busted in a state where the flag has a woman standing on a man's chest wielding a spear.
If any spammers are reading this, let me tell you about the Virginia correctional system. If you are lucky you will go to the big house. If they put you on the farm you are fucked. Most penal farms in Va grow their own food and cut their own fire wood, etc. You will come out tan and fit, my friend. I taught literacy in Wise County at the facility there. No slack for misdemeanors and light felonies. They also operate road gangs (no chains. Work is time off from your sentence with good behavior) with the Boss standing over you with a 12-gauge full of rocksalt if you decide to make like Cool Hand Luke. Also, the Virginia State Police are ruthlessly efficient and will get you. This was the best state to implement anti-spam legislation if we want spammers to hurt.
PS. It is "The Commonwealth of Virginia" not the "State of Virginia." I didn't get my hands whacked with a ruler by Mrs. Underwood to have y'all malign my beloved home with the lowly name of "state."
Maybe he didn't have to pray at the altar of Carl Sauer in grad school and is, therefore, not a "trained" geographer, but he is a professor of geography at UCLA and has long been adopted by professional cultural and historical geographers. I caught him at AAG this year. Compelling stuff. I suggest you check out his linguistic geography of agricultural societies in this month's Science.
Historians like Diamond will always find cultural or geographical explanations for development and underdevelopment, but they will never examine too closely the role of colonialism, war and politics. That might be hitting too close to home.
Huh? This is a gross misreading of Diamond. He was talking in 'GGS' about why Europe in particular was able to conquer and colonize. Blaut would have agreed and did agree in 'The Colonizer's Model of the World' with much of this assertion.
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Actually, here is the Good Ole State of Tennessee, we have these things called "Police Contact Cards." Let's say you are standing around on the corner waiting for the bus. Officer Billy Bob rolls up and says "Come here." He can fill out a "contact card" on you and ask for your ID. Don't have ID? You are a vagrant. Trust me. Just dare and say, "I don't have to talk to you." That's disorderly conduct. Now, I am sure these things are unconstitutional, but the people they are meant to keep in line don't even know that what their rights are let alone know to say, "Piss off." Of course, in Virginia, telling a cop to "Piss off." is "Curse and Abuse" and a night in jail.
You are required to carry ID in the US as well. Big deal. Get stopped without a driver's license or some form of ID coming out of a bar or such, and they can hold you until they know who you are.
Also spracht CowboyNeal: I can't wait until we can attribute violence to the nightly news.
Current, mainstream TV news coverage of the invasion of Iraq is nothing more than pornography. No analysis. Simply as many different angles of view of the same act repeated over and over until it just is. I have cow-orkers who talk about nothing else couching what they could never understand in so many CNN/FoxNewsisms. Look at the way Chemical Ali was done on MSNBC: he face was plastered beside a Sid Meyersesque character description. His real name wasn't even used:
Name: Chemical Ali Atrocities: Gassed his own people Relation: Saddam's brother-in-law Threat Level: High on US list of wanted Iraqis
What's next?
Name: CmdrTaco Atrocities: Repeated Dupes; Applied Mind Clips to own people Relation: Preternatural with John Katz Threat Level: Eh, he's a pushover.
Look, even if it is just a shot in the dark to get a beta slot on this program, go ahead and fill out the form anyway and be sure to ask for OGG Vorbis support. Maybe they will look at it the stats and say "hmmm" there's something to that and support the open source format!
Sure, they need food and safe water first, but there is a future in Iraq that people can think and talk about. There's already huge aid packages being put together.
Sort of like driving your SUV to the WalMart to buy cheap shit made by sweated labor while talking on a cell phone to your therapist about the American Dream? Don't impose your cultural values on them. That is the worst kind of imperialism. But wait, we kicked their ass so they better buy in to the plan....
So fascinating that you get to read it twice. The interesting part is: now it is CmdrTaco duping Timothy. Now if Timothy "redupes" this article, and then they get a vicious cycle going, then we will all be so tuned into the Sun/Opteron story that when Sun/Opteron does happen it will seem like it had always been that way. Psychic Memesis, anyone?
I have seen too many people making references to Iraq by appending other country's values to it....
After all, Italy, Germany and Japan have it pretty well now!
Since they are all ethnically homogeneous nations they are similar to Iraq? Huh? I don't understand what you are saying. You are comparing mutually exclusive situations. You should be MORE worried that Iraq will dissolve into a factional mess, than whether or not the US can force "democracy" onto its people. The Kurds WILL NOT enter into some sort of half-assed ethnic federation with people who traditionally treat them as chattel. The Turks haven't had their say yet and who knows what Iran will do to stir up the Shias in the south. Notice the choice of the Brits to occupy that area. They are in for a jackpot, but luckily they are used to occupying land and playing religious sentinments of one group off another.
I would say that the Romans introduced total war a long time before Sherman did.
Well, Josephus points out that the Romans usually made the offer of "look, surrender and submit or we're putting everyone to the sword." A great deal of Roman conquests were made on the back of this tactic. Of course, old Josephus was a bit of a toady....
Just pointing it out. He introduced -- or first put it on the world stage -- the concept of total war against civilians to end a war. It is important to remember is that most of the opposition he faced was home guards (old men and boys). The siege of Savannah was no piece of cake though. And "bummers" -- irregulars who followed the army -- were a scourge of biblical proportions. Not a great legacy given the 20th Century.
Had the Confederacy won at Gettysburg and started a march across the heart of the Union, would that be a war crime?
Yes. There are no good guys in a civil war. Even Shelby Foote points this out. I am ashamed of the fact that the place I grew up in and I love for all its wonderful idiosyncracies, etc. was a place where other people were enslaved.
"War's Legitimate Object Is More Perfect Peace." William Tecumseh Sherman
You must not be from the South. Ole Sherm is considered by many a war historian to be a war criminal of the first order, and a proto-typical one to boot.
The example of the schools is that I do not have a basic public school education although I am studying for a PhD at a land-grant institution (paying for it out of my own pocket).
The rest of your rant, is at best, non-sensical. Americans carry some of the highest per capita debt ratios in the world. They have one of the lowest savings rates per capita in the industrialized world. Most of that debt is owed (by the middle classes) either to large corporations or, ironically, to themselves in terms of governmental deficit spending, something, again ironically, reversed under Slick Willy, but lustily abandoned by Bush when he got his fingers in the cookie jar. Corporation get fat handouts despite obvious market trends showing that thet should be out of business (Chrysler, US Airways, etc). This is not to protect jobs because they cut jobs in order to get the cash, which they weasel out of paying. It is to protect the assets of the wealthy who own the corporations. Sure, the middle classes invest (primarily in Mutual Funds, IRA, 401ks, etc) but their debt-to-savings ratios are upside-down. It is nothing but a maintenance situation capitalized upon by the rich and by corporations to pad their pockets. For every superrich, pulled themselves up by the bootstrap story, there are thousands of "I bent over to grab my bootstraps and got kicked in the ass" stories. Still, we can always dream.
Of course, the US could never do anything so monstrous. No! Never! Trust George Bush. "We are fighting evil. And this will take a long time." "The war against terror could take a very long time."
Education: Here and here.. So there goes your premise.
Yes. The "rags-to-riches" American Dream! Y'know, there are no classes in America, don't you? Well, not in the Marxist sense of classes. You do have the haves (The Bushes come to mind), the have-nots (the "missing" America that no-one is really a part of), and the have-debts (slaves to corporations ran by the haves who have been tricked into believing the are acutally part of the upper class).
and there's no reason at all I should lose 20% of my paycheck for income taxes.
You gotta have those roads to drive your SUV to the golf course that sorta looks like Augusta National so you can park it next to the guy who sorta looks a lot like you. Tee time is at 430!
Unemployment tax, insurace requirments, minimum wage, etc.
Minimum wages are only beneficial, except to cheapskate wannabe sweatshop tycoons. Name one detrimental effect of a minimum wage. Nope. They do not cause inflation. Unemployment tax is not regulation. Since when were companies required to offer anything more that worker's comp insurance? And bailing on committments to injured workers is an American institution.
Please take a couple of courses on business management or better yet, start a business and hire three full-time emploees.
First, one cannot teach a knack. Second, I gladly pay my employees' benefits and have enough in my pocket to go home happy.
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Yeah. They are very professional. Don't get my statement wrong. I meant it a in begrudgingly admiring way. The Virginia State Police are very pleasant and professional about it when they toss you into the Greenville Penitentiary. Never give any lip to a Virginia trooper on a traffic stop because the judge will never believe that the trooper instigated any confrontation.
Wow, does that mean it still belongs to us [parliament.uk]?
Nope, but kick out Bush's lapdog Blair and we might give it back in kind. I'll throw in Tennessee (just had a tune-up and a new tires installed) and South Dakota (slightly used) for the hell of it.
If any spammers are reading this, let me tell you about the Virginia correctional system. If you are lucky you will go to the big house. If they put you on the farm you are fucked. Most penal farms in Va grow their own food and cut their own fire wood, etc. You will come out tan and fit, my friend. I taught literacy in Wise County at the facility there. No slack for misdemeanors and light felonies. They also operate road gangs (no chains. Work is time off from your sentence with good behavior) with the Boss standing over you with a 12-gauge full of rocksalt if you decide to make like Cool Hand Luke. Also, the Virginia State Police are ruthlessly efficient and will get you. This was the best state to implement anti-spam legislation if we want spammers to hurt.
PS. It is "The Commonwealth of Virginia" not the "State of Virginia." I didn't get my hands whacked with a ruler by Mrs. Underwood to have y'all malign my beloved home with the lowly name of "state."
Historians like Diamond will always find cultural or geographical explanations for development and underdevelopment, but they will never examine too closely the role of colonialism, war and politics. That might be hitting too close to home.
Huh? This is a gross misreading of Diamond. He was talking in 'GGS' about why Europe in particular was able to conquer and colonize. Blaut would have agreed and did agree in 'The Colonizer's Model of the World' with much of this assertion.
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"You have offended my family and you have offended a Shaolin temple"
Actually, here is the Good Ole State of Tennessee, we have these things called "Police Contact Cards." Let's say you are standing around on the corner waiting for the bus. Officer Billy Bob rolls up and says "Come here." He can fill out a "contact card" on you and ask for your ID. Don't have ID? You are a vagrant. Trust me. Just dare and say, "I don't have to talk to you." That's disorderly conduct. Now, I am sure these things are unconstitutional, but the people they are meant to keep in line don't even know that what their rights are let alone know to say, "Piss off." Of course, in Virginia, telling a cop to "Piss off." is "Curse and Abuse" and a night in jail.
You are required to carry ID in the US as well. Big deal. Get stopped without a driver's license or some form of ID coming out of a bar or such, and they can hold you until they know who you are.
Look Ron Jeremy has been getting laid and masterminding acts of global terror and no one is saying a word!
It's the same US that
1. Propped up Saddam financially against his neighbors.
2. Abandoned the Kurds to genocide in 1974.
3. blah blah blah.
Damn, the trolls don't even try anymore.
Also spracht CowboyNeal: I can't wait until we can attribute violence to the nightly news.
Current, mainstream TV news coverage of the invasion of Iraq is nothing more than pornography. No analysis. Simply as many different angles of view of the same act repeated over and over until it just is. I have cow-orkers who talk about nothing else couching what they could never understand in so many CNN/FoxNewsisms. Look at the way Chemical Ali was done on MSNBC: he face was plastered beside a Sid Meyersesque character description. His real name wasn't even used:
Name: Chemical Ali
Atrocities: Gassed his own people
Relation: Saddam's brother-in-law
Threat Level: High on US list of wanted Iraqis
What's next?
Name: CmdrTaco
Atrocities: Repeated Dupes; Applied Mind Clips to own people
Relation: Preternatural with John Katz
Threat Level: Eh, he's a pushover.
Look, even if it is just a shot in the dark to get a beta slot on this program, go ahead and fill out the form anyway and be sure to ask for OGG Vorbis support. Maybe they will look at it the stats and say "hmmm" there's something to that and support the open source format!
Sure, they need food and safe water first, but there is a future in Iraq that people can think and talk about. There's already huge aid packages being put together.
Sort of like driving your SUV to the WalMart to buy cheap shit made by sweated labor while talking on a cell phone to your therapist about the American Dream? Don't impose your cultural values on them. That is the worst kind of imperialism. But wait, we kicked their ass so they better buy in to the plan....
So fascinating that you get to read it twice. The interesting part is: now it is CmdrTaco duping Timothy. Now if Timothy "redupes" this article, and then they get a vicious cycle going, then we will all be so tuned into the Sun/Opteron story that when Sun/Opteron does happen it will seem like it had always been that way. Psychic Memesis, anyone?
I have seen too many people making references to Iraq by appending other country's values to it. ...
After all, Italy, Germany and Japan have it pretty well now!
Since they are all ethnically homogeneous nations they are similar to Iraq? Huh? I don't understand what you are saying. You are comparing mutually exclusive situations. You should be MORE worried that Iraq will dissolve into a factional mess, than whether or not the US can force "democracy" onto its people. The Kurds WILL NOT enter into some sort of half-assed ethnic federation with people who traditionally treat them as chattel. The Turks haven't had their say yet and who knows what Iran will do to stir up the Shias in the south. Notice the choice of the Brits to occupy that area. They are in for a jackpot, but luckily they are used to occupying land and playing religious sentinments of one group off another.
Great reply. Thanks.
I would say that the Romans introduced total war a long time before Sherman did.
Well, Josephus points out that the Romans usually made the offer of "look, surrender and submit or we're putting everyone to the sword." A great deal of Roman conquests were made on the back of this tactic. Of course, old Josephus was a bit of a toady....
Dude, you just referenced two liberal rags claiming the Republicans are pulling the sky down.
Like, shaa, bro. You talkin' 'bout this den of commies or the pit of socialist vipers?
funnily no country has been in a war against good yet.
Yes. It started back in September of 1940, IIRC.
This whole thread is nothing more than a mindless, left-wing sponsored bash of President Bush, his administration, and Republicans in general.
... about ... now.
Yes, this is a fully sponsored bashing. I am expecing the residuals check right
BTW, nice troll, Trolly Trollerton!
Just pointing it out. He introduced -- or first put it on the world stage -- the concept of total war against civilians to end a war. It is important to remember is that most of the opposition he faced was home guards (old men and boys). The siege of Savannah was no piece of cake though. And "bummers" -- irregulars who followed the army -- were a scourge of biblical proportions. Not a great legacy given the 20th Century.
Had the Confederacy won at Gettysburg and started a march across the heart of the Union, would that be a war crime?
Yes. There are no good guys in a civil war. Even Shelby Foote points this out. I am ashamed of the fact that the place I grew up in and I love for all its wonderful idiosyncracies, etc. was a place where other people were enslaved.
"War's Legitimate Object Is More Perfect Peace." William Tecumseh Sherman
You must not be from the South. Ole Sherm is considered by many a war historian to be a war criminal of the first order, and a proto-typical one to boot.
We might have to wait on Chelsea for that one.
The example of the schools is that I do not have a basic public school education although I am studying for a PhD at a land-grant institution (paying for it out of my own pocket).
The rest of your rant, is at best, non-sensical. Americans carry some of the highest per capita debt ratios in the world. They have one of the lowest savings rates per capita in the industrialized world. Most of that debt is owed (by the middle classes) either to large corporations or, ironically, to themselves in terms of governmental deficit spending, something, again ironically, reversed under Slick Willy, but lustily abandoned by Bush when he got his fingers in the cookie jar. Corporation get fat handouts despite obvious market trends showing that thet should be out of business (Chrysler, US Airways, etc). This is not to protect jobs because they cut jobs in order to get the cash, which they weasel out of paying. It is to protect the assets of the wealthy who own the corporations. Sure, the middle classes invest (primarily in Mutual Funds, IRA, 401ks, etc) but their debt-to-savings ratios are upside-down. It is nothing but a maintenance situation capitalized upon by the rich and by corporations to pad their pockets. For every superrich, pulled themselves up by the bootstrap story, there are thousands of "I bent over to grab my bootstraps and got kicked in the ass" stories. Still, we can always dream.
Of course, the US could never do anything so monstrous. No! Never! Trust George Bush. "We are fighting evil. And this will take a long time." "The war against terror could take a very long time."
Education: Here and here.. So there goes your premise.
Yes. The "rags-to-riches" American Dream! Y'know, there are no classes in America, don't you? Well, not in the Marxist sense of classes. You do have the haves (The Bushes come to mind), the have-nots (the "missing" America that no-one is really a part of), and the have-debts (slaves to corporations ran by the haves who have been tricked into believing the are acutally part of the upper class).
and there's no reason at all I should lose 20% of my paycheck for income taxes.
You gotta have those roads to drive your SUV to the golf course that sorta looks like Augusta National so you can park it next to the guy who sorta looks a lot like you. Tee time is at 430!
Unemployment tax, insurace requirments, minimum wage, etc.
Minimum wages are only beneficial, except to cheapskate wannabe sweatshop tycoons. Name one detrimental effect of a minimum wage. Nope. They do not cause inflation. Unemployment tax is not regulation. Since when were companies required to offer anything more that worker's comp insurance? And bailing on committments to injured workers is an American institution.
Please take a couple of courses on business management or better yet, start a business and hire three full-time emploees.
First, one cannot teach a knack. Second, I gladly pay my employees' benefits and have enough in my pocket to go home happy.