I put in a debian cd (no redhat -- it angries up his blood) into the pooch's mouth and the next thing i know he has been up and running for over a month with 1.16 1.05 1.09 load average, which never happened with a microsoft pedigree.
please describe your installation problem more specifically. which distribution? how did you install? orally or rectally? did you notice anything wrong with linux prior to the dog's death? when you rebooted, did the dog kept dying over and over again? did you try recompiling with a newer glibc? and, of course, was there anything wrong with the dog prior to the installation? unusual sweating? fleas? has he ever tried to breed? if yes, was he using fork? if cp'ed, did he copy correctly?
forward the answers to these question to comp.os.canine.linux and see if any suggestions apply.
X3.3.3.1 supports it. I got a bunch of gateways with ATI's of all sorts (RAGE, RAGE II, RAGE IIc, RAGE Pro, RAGE Pro LT) and boy did I have a fun time digging up the right driver.
But they all worked in 16bit, and no larger than 1024x768 (some larger but it wasn't really worth it). I also had to fool X to recognize the chipset as something it knows it supports.
Although that worked, I must warn you that moving windows screwed up the whole fscking screen or just some horizontal lines, or just the border regions of the windows, but once the screen was stationary again, it all worked fine. Also I stopped having that problem after Xfree I did a clean reinstall of X3.3.3.1 instead of substituting XF86_Mach64 in the X3.3.3 distribution.
Don't know about dell's, never tried a machine with a different bios, but I think it could be done. The good thing about linux, is that if it is open source, then it will probably work on more things than you expect. A driver will support all cards with the chipset. In windows, you need a driver for a particular card.
I'd like to try it, but $50 is too much for a trial. plus noone i know has it. does anyone know if there are things i can download/install without the dough?
not that i don't understand the importance of the issue (which i probably don't), but I am getting a little bit sick of all these nerds/geeks articles.
i don't really consider myself one (nerd/geek), but i suspect that some people might see it in me, as well as I do not get offended if they simply refer to the fact that i program and find wit in s/([^c])ei/$1ie/g;. So I do think that JonKatz writes articles about me as well. But I certainly don't want someone writing article after article proclaiming me normal, different-but-good-different, etc. I already know that. I knew that long before these articles started. I've known that my whole life.
Please reply and tell if anyone else thinks that the subject is mostly finished. JonKatz has raised awareness for the computer age kids, but it is pushed as far as it can probably go.
Actually, you should see just what they did to the install program. I saw some of the packages that were updated, and too was not very enthusiastic about getting another 15megs of kde i could have downloaded (hypothetically of course, i run debian 2.1 and quite happy with apt -- thank you).
but two of my friends are switching to linux or at least trying it out for the first time, and they were impressed by the ease with which the install went. Even the sound worked right away (on one of them at least), but X was the real deal. RH even added a tcl message "are you seeing this correctly, click yes." and xdm prompt is more and more like something you could just sit down in front of and login to. Although, Xconfigurator, which I think is the selling point of redhat easy install, does not probe the cards and the monitor correctly yet, one can still easily specify the video ram info and the refresh rates if any.
really awfully close to a painless newbie install. a painless install being clicking yes or hitting enter about 15 times before you get a fresh and operational machine.
i am getting my diamond viper v770 as i type at pricewatch. $250 for a card that beats will beat the shit out of my current SiS6326 chipset. i consider it a bargain.
not that SiS is a bad chipset but the driver's buggy. never left beta when SuSe handed it over to Xfree86. and the most frustrating part is that under windows it is fine and even accelerated, even though most games can't look horrible. I should have waited instead of buying the first AGP card that was available in my price range. but not anymore. Q3 and HalfLife should look pretty good on my screen now.
if only I could afford getting a new monitor too. this interlaced shit is pissing me off.
p.s. i hope nVidia considers implementing the DVD-decoding driver for linux as well, since all TNT2 based cards seem to have the capability. that would be sweet. and ELSA i think is even going to have a video-in in their Erazor III (also tnt2 based).
Wouldn't it be great if you could get a TV-in/TV-out/SVGA-out/2D/3D/accelerator/DVD/decode r/128MB card which was integrated with a sound interface? I could finally get rid of two cards for one bundle of complete multimedia experience.
anyone know when I will actually be able to have X working on a tnt2? i mean does it make sense to go ahead and buy one as soon as they come out? apparently they should be in stores by like next week, and getting one before summer would be sweet!!!
anyone is going to confirm that? i was thinking of upgrading my video card, and with all these great games coming out, RIVA TNT2 sounds like a good choice for me. But everyone has got to be sure, right?
all the signs are there. bad grammar, sentences on the fringe of being run-on, every paragraph made up of a single sentence, 5 or 10 lines alike.
i really don't like this style of writing, and attribute it to lack of serious revision, just like my writing seminar teacher did. for comparison go to any ESR article and see that he actually has a structure in his writing. 8)
on usenet, he indeed would be a troll, but in chicago tribune he is yet another reporter who will be getting an invitation to the next geek party at bill gates' house.
what the hell is an "IT programmer"? I though IT is kinda separate from actual programming.
plus, how did he get an F1 McLaren? I am not sure if those are street-legal. at least in usa. a lot of sport/special edition cars do not fit the legal bill.
Developers don't write man pages for the newbies. They write them for those who want to use the program and need a starting point. this does not imply that an expert will just start the program and know what to do. if ipchains did not have a HOWTO, noone, and i mean NOONE would have an incentive to use it.
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I put in a debian cd (no redhat -- it angries up his blood) into the pooch's mouth and the next thing i know he has been up and running for over a month with 1.16 1.05 1.09 load average, which never happened with a microsoft pedigree.
please describe your installation problem more specifically. which distribution? how did you install? orally or rectally? did you notice anything wrong with linux prior to the dog's death? when you rebooted, did the dog kept dying over and over again? did you try recompiling with a newer glibc? and, of course, was there anything wrong with the dog prior to the installation? unusual sweating? fleas? has he ever tried to breed? if yes, was he using fork? if cp'ed, did he copy correctly?
forward the answers to these question to comp.os.canine.linux and see if any suggestions apply.
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X3.3.3.1 supports it. I got a bunch of gateways with ATI's of all sorts (RAGE, RAGE II, RAGE IIc, RAGE Pro, RAGE Pro LT) and boy did I have a fun time digging up the right driver.
But they all worked in 16bit, and no larger than 1024x768 (some larger but it wasn't really worth it). I also had to fool X to recognize the chipset as something it knows it supports.
Although that worked, I must warn you that moving windows screwed up the whole fscking screen or just some horizontal lines, or just the border regions of the windows, but once the screen was stationary again, it all worked fine. Also I stopped having that problem after Xfree I did a clean reinstall of X3.3.3.1 instead of substituting XF86_Mach64 in the X3.3.3 distribution.
Don't know about dell's, never tried a machine with a different bios, but I think it could be done. The good thing about linux, is that if it is open source, then it will probably work on more things than you expect. A driver will support all cards with the chipset. In windows, you need a driver for a particular card.
I'd like to try it, but $50 is too much for a trial. plus noone i know has it. does anyone know if there are things i can download/install without the dough?
not that i don't understand the importance of the issue (which i probably don't), but I am getting a little bit sick of all these nerds/geeks articles.
i don't really consider myself one (nerd/geek), but i suspect that some people might see it in me, as well as I do not get offended if they simply refer to the fact that i program and find wit in s/([^c])ei/$1ie/g;. So I do think that JonKatz writes articles about me as well. But I certainly don't want someone writing article after article proclaiming me normal, different-but-good-different, etc. I already know that. I knew that long before these articles started. I've known that my whole life.
Please reply and tell if anyone else thinks that the subject is mostly finished. JonKatz has raised awareness for the computer age kids, but it is pushed as far as it can probably go.
Actually, you should see just what they did to the install program. I saw some of the packages that were updated, and too was not very enthusiastic about getting another 15megs of kde i could have downloaded (hypothetically of course, i run debian 2.1 and quite happy with apt -- thank you).
but two of my friends are switching to linux or at least trying it out for the first time, and they were impressed by the ease with which the install went. Even the sound worked right away (on one of them at least), but X was the real deal. RH even added a tcl message "are you seeing this correctly, click yes." and xdm prompt is more and more like something you could just sit down in front of and login to. Although, Xconfigurator, which I think is the selling point of redhat easy install, does not probe the cards and the monitor correctly yet, one can still easily specify the video ram info and the refresh rates if any.
really awfully close to a painless newbie install. a painless install being clicking yes or hitting enter about 15 times before you get a fresh and operational machine.
i am getting my diamond viper v770 as i type at pricewatch. $250 for a card that beats will beat the shit out of my current SiS6326 chipset. i consider it a bargain.
e r/128MB card which was integrated with a sound interface? I could finally get rid of two cards for one bundle of complete multimedia experience.
not that SiS is a bad chipset but the driver's buggy. never left beta when SuSe handed it over to Xfree86. and the most frustrating part is that under windows it is fine and even accelerated, even though most games can't look horrible. I should have waited instead of buying the first AGP card that was available in my price range. but not anymore. Q3 and HalfLife should look pretty good on my screen now.
if only I could afford getting a new monitor too. this interlaced shit is pissing me off.
p.s. i hope nVidia considers implementing the DVD-decoding driver for linux as well, since all TNT2 based cards seem to have the capability. that would be sweet. and ELSA i think is even going to have a video-in in their Erazor III (also tnt2 based).
Wouldn't it be great if you could get a TV-in/TV-out/SVGA-out/2D/3D/accelerator/DVD/decod
anyone know when I will actually be able to have X working on a tnt2? i mean does it make sense to go ahead and buy one as soon as they come out? apparently they should be in stores by like next week, and getting one before summer would be sweet!!!
anyone is going to confirm that? i was thinking of upgrading my video card, and with all these great games coming out, RIVA TNT2 sounds like a good choice for me. But everyone has got to be sure, right?
with this comment JonKatz's article "Why Kids Kill" is going into the Slashdot Hall of Fame and the first story ever to get 1095 responses.
first of many, Jon! I am sure!
all the signs are there. bad grammar, sentences on the fringe of being run-on, every paragraph made up of a single sentence, 5 or 10 lines alike.
i really don't like this style of writing, and attribute it to lack of serious revision, just like my writing seminar teacher did. for comparison go to any ESR article and see that he actually has a structure in his writing. 8)
on usenet, he indeed would be a troll, but in chicago tribune he is yet another reporter who will be getting an invitation to the next geek party at bill gates' house.
what the hell is an "IT programmer"? I though IT is kinda separate from actual programming.
plus, how did he get an F1 McLaren? I am not sure if those are street-legal. at least in usa. a lot of sport/special edition cars do not fit the legal bill.
Developers don't write man pages for the newbies. They write them for those who want to use the program and need a starting point. this does not imply that an expert will just start the program and know what to do. if ipchains did not have a HOWTO, noone, and i mean NOONE would have an incentive to use it.