Ok, think about it this way. Humans are "gods" to the Cylons -- it is in the image of humans that Cylons were created. Boomer was established to be a Cylon in the miniseries pilot (glad you were paying attention). Helo, who was left behind on Caprica, is not a Cylon (also from the miniseries pilot). Helo impregnates a copy of Boomer that is still on Caprica (this is one of the many story arcs throughout the season, and it becomes obvious Boomer is pregnant long before she actually tells Helo -- again, if you're paying attention). Connect the dots.
Second, it becomes clear long before the season finale that it is one of the main goals of the Cylons, or at least some of the Cylons, to somehow synthesize humans and Cylons. It's clear that the human-looking Cylons are more than just human-looking; No. 6 suggests to Baltar several times they have children, and Caprica-Boomer becomes pregnant with the child of a human. That this is a very important event for both humanity and Cylon is strongly hinted at throughout the season.
You don't seem to be big on subtext; I imagine you're the sort who thinks 2001 is about a malfunctioning computer, or Fight Club is about guys punching each other. Anyhow, I'm done with this conversation. I really never intended to, you know, take it this far.
My first response is that there's nothing wrong with being topical. Issues like terrorism, paranoia, and catyclismic events are broader than just 9/11. They've been a large part of the 'modern' world for the past several decades. The issues they raise are fresh ground for thoughtful discussion, on and off the television. Nothing on Battlestar Galactica strikes me as being biased toward one political position or another.
Second, how it is "exploiting" 9/11 in such a scenario? It's a pretty common situation in any TV show or movie where there's a sneaky enemy who is going to try to break through enemy lines. I'm sure the media world is replete with examples of this before 9/11, it's just that 9/11 makes it all the more poignant. I don't believe that constitutes "exploiting."
Third, I actually knew that about certain Islamic sects, though I didn't recall it at the time. In any case, as I admitted in the previouis post, I'm not particularly familiar with Islam (though by no means only familiar with Christianity -- hey, are you spying on me?!?).
Anyways, Caprica-Boomer becomes pregnant (a not-so-virgin birth) and there's a glowing child in a crib, which Balter sees in a vision induced by the Cylon in his head (presumably). If there are similar motifs in Islam then I'm not aware, but feel free to correct me.
I have some special 3x-stength tinfoil you might want to buy. There's enough that you can coat the inside of your entire underground bunker. Guaranteed 100% to protect you from the brain-washing rays of FOX satellites.
No, it's fairly obvious that the Cylons' religion is meant to be Christian in nature. I'm not expert on Islam, but there is definitely an aspect of "necessary suffering" to reach salvation in the way Baltar's Cylon talks There are also episodes that talk about the relationship between man/Cylon and the Cylons' God. It's clearly something personal, a la, "personal relationship with the Lord". When she talks it sounds like she's reading from St. Augustine or Luther.
Not to mention the little Christ child or whatever in the final episode of the season. If you haven't seen the whole season, then sorry, but you're so adamant that I assumed you had.
If you had watched the series, it is much more apparent that the Cylons are the Christians and the humans are the heathens (i.e., pagans). There's even a scene in the last episode where there's a glowing child in a crib and the Cylon in Baltar's head says something to the effect of, "This is our future and our salvation." I'm suspicious of how close you've been paying attention, anyhow, since it's not at all clear that Baltar or the Cylon in his head is trying to destroy everyone. The Cylon detector he builds works and it identifies Boomer, though Baltar doesn't tell her or anyone else when he finds out. In fact, pretty much no matter how sinister Baltar is, it seems to work out well for the humans. It's as if, gasp, he's part of some large plan -- Satan in the service of the Lord.
And, to be honest, I'm suspicious of whether or not your post is sincere. It seems to be more paranoid than thoughtful -- the Republicans are trying to brainwash me! Egads!
As another poster said, the 'science' in science fiction doesn't have to mean high technology and funny-talking aliens. Dune, for example, was a universe with almost no technology and overt religious and political symbolism. You don't hear people complaining about Dune being "short on science and creative fiction." Gene Wolfe also writes excellent science fiction stories and the whole point of them is religion. Both 2001 and Blade Runner are considered to be two of the greatest science fiction films of all time, and they are both deeply religious films. Most people have nothing but high praise for these authors and films, so I think it's you who are off base when you imply that "politics and religion" don't belong in good science fiction.
I just checked. If you search google.fr for "Louis Vuitton" no ads are shown, while both google.com and google.co.uk display some ads.
So it seems google is complying with the court order using google.fr. It could be the case that nobody bought "Louis Vuitton" ads at google.fr, but that seems particularly unlikely as Louis Vuitton itself is a French company.
I don't have any numbers since I'm not in any way affiliated with Google, but these are my assumptions: first, that most of Google's revnue, or at least a very significant portion, comes from people purchasing ads; second, that most of these purchases come from companies whose primary focus is not France.
If this is the case, then it seems that it would make more sense for Google to stop business with France and French companies alltogether, either by blocking French IPs, or refusing money from companies who do significant business in France. If this ruling were to stand in every country in which Google was accessible then their ad business would essentially dry up. There is no longer any incentive to purchase an ad under search terms like "Ford Motors" because nobody but Ford Motors can. Ford can basically pay whatever it wants since there's going to be near zero demand for copyrighted keywords.
The revnue lost from ads, I would guess, is more than the revue gained by being able to do business is France, in the short or the long term. Of course, I'm not familiar with the economic politics of the EU, so the effect might have more impact than I thought, but, seriously, screw France. The companies who seem to be complaining and suing about this (e.g., Louis Vuitton) aren't even the sort who would be affected if they were delisted from Google alltogether, let alone if their ads were removed.
The parent says the show is vacuous, and then you respond saying "Yeah!!" but have this detailed list of allegories present in the show.
Personally, I always felt that the Cylons' religion would "win" in the end -- it's their very Christian monotheism ("Suffering! Suffering! Cross! Cross!") versus the human's devout paganism.
There are some obscure corners of CSS2 that the main non-IE browsers can't handle or don't handle well, but for the most part they're compliant. I've never needed something they don't support. CSS3 is an entirely different ballgame, though. No browser even suports half of it, AFAIK.
Everything else in the Galactica universe seems to be relatively low tech compared to "usual" science fiction. The fighters use bullets, pilots wear flight suits, there are no shields of any kind, etc. The cities themselves don't seem particularly futuristic, either. It doesn't seem improbable to me that jump technology is only a century or so old to me, though it honestly doesn't matter to me one way or the other.
A perhaps better explanation is that since the fleet has to stay together they must travel at the speed of the slowest ship. The fleet contains everything from military ships like Galactica, prison ships, etc., to luxury cruisers.
Also, Richard Hatch, who played Apollo in the original Battlestar, plays Tom Zarek in the new Battlestar. Zarek is actively trying to unseat the President, through force if necessary. In one episode he stages a prison riot (he has been imprisoned because he blew up some government buildings before the Colonies fell), takes several people hostage, and demands that the President abdicate her position and a new election be held immediately.
That doesn't happen, but in a later episode he hires people to assassinate the President while he runs for the position of Vice President, so that he'll be President by default.
---- DO NOT READ THIS POST IF YOU DON'T WANT INFORMATION ABOUT FUTURE EPISODES; IT CONTAINS SPOILERS!! ----
That said, here goes:
In the third episode Richard Hatch, who played Apollo in the original series, makes his first appearance of many in the series. He plays activist Tom Zarek-- terrorist to most, freedom fighter to some -- who stages a prison riot and hostage situation wherein an attempted rape and murder occur. The episode, appropriately, is called "Bastille Day." There are a bunch of lovely scenes where the new Apollo and Zarek interact (violently, sometimes).
Later on, Zarek runs for Vice President. Whether or not he wins, I won't say. Hyuk hyuk.
I don't know any 1980 Galactica fanboys, but I imagine this will cause them great...consternation.
I've heard that the creators wanted the space scenes to be completely silent but the higher-ups refused. You might notice, though, that the sound is extremely muted in fight scenes.
There is very little Marxist theory in the Manifesto. To understand the economic ideas behind Marxism you should read Das Kapital, and to understand the philosophical (and Hegelian) ideas behind Marxism you should read things like Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844, The German Ideology. and Marx's Theses of Feuerbach.
The Manifesto is designed, by and large, to be a sort of "primer" to the rest of Marx.
Of course, the default layout of the controls is Gnome mimics OS X, not Windows. There's a very vocal minority who whine about the "backwards button order" all the time.
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That's the network install, which includes every update since XP was released plus code to figure out what version of Windows you're actually running. If you download it from Windows Update it does all that before-hand and only sends you the stuff you need, which makes for a much smaller download.
Parody is protected. However, this is the same thing that happened with Penny Arcade and American Greetings, Inc. (or whoever) a while ago. Penny Arcade parodied the likeness of some character to satirize Todd McFarlane (I think). So it wasn't a parody of said character, but a satire of Todd McFarlane.
Likewise, JibJab used "This Land is Our Land" to satirize President Bush and Senator Kerry. If they had wrote a song that was merely a parody of "This Land is Our Land" then they would have been fine and it would have been protected. However, they used the song for other purposes, not covered under the provisions that protect parody.
Fortunately, the song was in the public domain and hence the restrictions didn't apply.
I think ctrl+right makes perfect sense, as long as you're from a country where you read left-to-right.
Anyhow, I just wanted to point out that the Gnome keyboard configuration panel does in fact have shortcuts for things like "Audio next", "Audio play", etc. I use them constantly.
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Ok, think about it this way. Humans are "gods" to the Cylons -- it is in the image of humans that Cylons were created. Boomer was established to be a Cylon in the miniseries pilot (glad you were paying attention). Helo, who was left behind on Caprica, is not a Cylon (also from the miniseries pilot). Helo impregnates a copy of Boomer that is still on Caprica (this is one of the many story arcs throughout the season, and it becomes obvious Boomer is pregnant long before she actually tells Helo -- again, if you're paying attention). Connect the dots.
Second, it becomes clear long before the season finale that it is one of the main goals of the Cylons, or at least some of the Cylons, to somehow synthesize humans and Cylons. It's clear that the human-looking Cylons are more than just human-looking; No. 6 suggests to Baltar several times they have children, and Caprica-Boomer becomes pregnant with the child of a human. That this is a very important event for both humanity and Cylon is strongly hinted at throughout the season.
You don't seem to be big on subtext; I imagine you're the sort who thinks 2001 is about a malfunctioning computer, or Fight Club is about guys punching each other. Anyhow, I'm done with this conversation. I really never intended to, you know, take it this far.
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You keep using that word "exploitation." To, uh, "exploit" another movie -- that word, I don't think it means what you think it means.
My first response is that there's nothing wrong with being topical. Issues like terrorism, paranoia, and catyclismic events are broader than just 9/11. They've been a large part of the 'modern' world for the past several decades. The issues they raise are fresh ground for thoughtful discussion, on and off the television. Nothing on Battlestar Galactica strikes me as being biased toward one political position or another.
Second, how it is "exploiting" 9/11 in such a scenario? It's a pretty common situation in any TV show or movie where there's a sneaky enemy who is going to try to break through enemy lines. I'm sure the media world is replete with examples of this before 9/11, it's just that 9/11 makes it all the more poignant. I don't believe that constitutes "exploiting."
Third, I actually knew that about certain Islamic sects, though I didn't recall it at the time. In any case, as I admitted in the previouis post, I'm not particularly familiar with Islam (though by no means only familiar with Christianity -- hey, are you spying on me?!?).
Anyways, Caprica-Boomer becomes pregnant (a not-so-virgin birth) and there's a glowing child in a crib, which Balter sees in a vision induced by the Cylon in his head (presumably). If there are similar motifs in Islam then I'm not aware, but feel free to correct me.
You presume you said anything worth rebutting substantively.
I have some special 3x-stength tinfoil you might want to buy. There's enough that you can coat the inside of your entire underground bunker. Guaranteed 100% to protect you from the brain-washing rays of FOX satellites.
No, it's fairly obvious that the Cylons' religion is meant to be Christian in nature. I'm not expert on Islam, but there is definitely an aspect of "necessary suffering" to reach salvation in the way Baltar's Cylon talks There are also episodes that talk about the relationship between man/Cylon and the Cylons' God. It's clearly something personal, a la, "personal relationship with the Lord". When she talks it sounds like she's reading from St. Augustine or Luther.
Not to mention the little Christ child or whatever in the final episode of the season. If you haven't seen the whole season, then sorry, but you're so adamant that I assumed you had.
If you had watched the series, it is much more apparent that the Cylons are the Christians and the humans are the heathens (i.e., pagans). There's even a scene in the last episode where there's a glowing child in a crib and the Cylon in Baltar's head says something to the effect of, "This is our future and our salvation." I'm suspicious of how close you've been paying attention, anyhow, since it's not at all clear that Baltar or the Cylon in his head is trying to destroy everyone. The Cylon detector he builds works and it identifies Boomer, though Baltar doesn't tell her or anyone else when he finds out. In fact, pretty much no matter how sinister Baltar is, it seems to work out well for the humans. It's as if, gasp, he's part of some large plan -- Satan in the service of the Lord.
And, to be honest, I'm suspicious of whether or not your post is sincere. It seems to be more paranoid than thoughtful -- the Republicans are trying to brainwash me! Egads!
As another poster said, the 'science' in science fiction doesn't have to mean high technology and funny-talking aliens. Dune, for example, was a universe with almost no technology and overt religious and political symbolism. You don't hear people complaining about Dune being "short on science and creative fiction." Gene Wolfe also writes excellent science fiction stories and the whole point of them is religion. Both 2001 and Blade Runner are considered to be two of the greatest science fiction films of all time, and they are both deeply religious films. Most people have nothing but high praise for these authors and films, so I think it's you who are off base when you imply that "politics and religion" don't belong in good science fiction.
I just checked. If you search google.fr for "Louis Vuitton" no ads are shown, while both google.com and google.co.uk display some ads.
So it seems google is complying with the court order using google.fr. It could be the case that nobody bought "Louis Vuitton" ads at google.fr, but that seems particularly unlikely as Louis Vuitton itself is a French company.
I don't have any numbers since I'm not in any way affiliated with Google, but these are my assumptions: first, that most of Google's revnue, or at least a very significant portion, comes from people purchasing ads; second, that most of these purchases come from companies whose primary focus is not France.
If this is the case, then it seems that it would make more sense for Google to stop business with France and French companies alltogether, either by blocking French IPs, or refusing money from companies who do significant business in France. If this ruling were to stand in every country in which Google was accessible then their ad business would essentially dry up. There is no longer any incentive to purchase an ad under search terms like "Ford Motors" because nobody but Ford Motors can. Ford can basically pay whatever it wants since there's going to be near zero demand for copyrighted keywords.
The revnue lost from ads, I would guess, is more than the revue gained by being able to do business is France, in the short or the long term. Of course, I'm not familiar with the economic politics of the EU, so the effect might have more impact than I thought, but, seriously, screw France. The companies who seem to be complaining and suing about this (e.g., Louis Vuitton) aren't even the sort who would be affected if they were delisted from Google alltogether, let alone if their ads were removed.
What a bunch of whiners.
The parent says the show is vacuous, and then you respond saying "Yeah!!" but have this detailed list of allegories present in the show.
Personally, I always felt that the Cylons' religion would "win" in the end -- it's their very Christian monotheism ("Suffering! Suffering! Cross! Cross!") versus the human's devout paganism.
I stopped reading once you confused copyrights and trademarks. I revoke your license to talk about IP issues.
In France, if someone did a comparative advertisement on some TV station, would it be the station that gets sued or the advertiser? Or could both be?
Is that where I can also send the "Please Do Cancel the Show" letters, too?
I'll leave the audience to ponder how the people who did this originally can rip themselves off by doing it for another show.
There are some obscure corners of CSS2 that the main non-IE browsers can't handle or don't handle well, but for the most part they're compliant. I've never needed something they don't support. CSS3 is an entirely different ballgame, though. No browser even suports half of it, AFAIK.
I'm not sure what sorts of flames I was inviting with my parent post, but I'll apologize anyhow. I didn't mean to hurt anyone, I promise.
Everything else in the Galactica universe seems to be relatively low tech compared to "usual" science fiction. The fighters use bullets, pilots wear flight suits, there are no shields of any kind, etc. The cities themselves don't seem particularly futuristic, either. It doesn't seem improbable to me that jump technology is only a century or so old to me, though it honestly doesn't matter to me one way or the other.
A perhaps better explanation is that since the fleet has to stay together they must travel at the speed of the slowest ship. The fleet contains everything from military ships like Galactica, prison ships, etc., to luxury cruisers.
--- SPOILER ALERT ---
-- DON'T READ THIS UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT TO --
Also, Richard Hatch, who played Apollo in the original Battlestar, plays Tom Zarek in the new Battlestar. Zarek is actively trying to unseat the President, through force if necessary. In one episode he stages a prison riot (he has been imprisoned because he blew up some government buildings before the Colonies fell), takes several people hostage, and demands that the President abdicate her position and a new election be held immediately.
That doesn't happen, but in a later episode he hires people to assassinate the President while he runs for the position of Vice President, so that he'll be President by default.
Get ready for some cognitive dissonance.
---- DO NOT READ THIS POST IF YOU DON'T WANT INFORMATION ABOUT FUTURE EPISODES; IT CONTAINS SPOILERS!! ----
That said, here goes:
In the third episode Richard Hatch, who played Apollo in the original series, makes his first appearance of many in the series. He plays activist Tom Zarek-- terrorist to most, freedom fighter to some -- who stages a prison riot and hostage situation wherein an attempted rape and murder occur. The episode, appropriately, is called "Bastille Day." There are a bunch of lovely scenes where the new Apollo and Zarek interact (violently, sometimes).
Later on, Zarek runs for Vice President. Whether or not he wins, I won't say. Hyuk hyuk.
I don't know any 1980 Galactica fanboys, but I imagine this will cause them great...consternation.
I've heard that the creators wanted the space scenes to be completely silent but the higher-ups refused. You might notice, though, that the sound is extremely muted in fight scenes.
There is very little Marxist theory in the Manifesto. To understand the economic ideas behind Marxism you should read Das Kapital, and to understand the philosophical (and Hegelian) ideas behind Marxism you should read things like Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844, The German Ideology. and Marx's Theses of Feuerbach.
The Manifesto is designed, by and large, to be a sort of "primer" to the rest of Marx.
Of course, the default layout of the controls is Gnome mimics OS X, not Windows. There's a very vocal minority who whine about the "backwards button order" all the time.
That's the network install, which includes every update since XP was released plus code to figure out what version of Windows you're actually running. If you download it from Windows Update it does all that before-hand and only sends you the stuff you need, which makes for a much smaller download.
Parody is protected. However, this is the same thing that happened with Penny Arcade and American Greetings, Inc. (or whoever) a while ago. Penny Arcade parodied the likeness of some character to satirize Todd McFarlane (I think). So it wasn't a parody of said character, but a satire of Todd McFarlane.
Likewise, JibJab used "This Land is Our Land" to satirize President Bush and Senator Kerry. If they had wrote a song that was merely a parody of "This Land is Our Land" then they would have been fine and it would have been protected. However, they used the song for other purposes, not covered under the provisions that protect parody.
Fortunately, the song was in the public domain and hence the restrictions didn't apply.
I think ctrl+right makes perfect sense, as long as you're from a country where you read left-to-right.
Anyhow, I just wanted to point out that the Gnome keyboard configuration panel does in fact have shortcuts for things like "Audio next", "Audio play", etc. I use them constantly.