They didn't need either to support a population of 10 million humans on this continent. But then again, what would I expect a European to understand that?
I don't care what you expect, but the idea that 10 million people living in N America is some kind of victory for a culture is silly.
The wheel and writing weren't needed to support those 10 million. They were needed to support millions that didn't make it, the millions that died in a primative, underdeveloped culture.
The wheel helps grow food. Private property helps grow food. Writing helps people transmit knowledge that keeps them alive. They're all great inventions that were unknown to Native North Americans.
Really? Which part don't you think exists, the hoarding or the homeless people? Both exist- the more money an individual has, the more land they own, just like homeless people exist.
There are plenty of poor people that own land. I live in a rural area full of people with little money, but lots of land.
And I don't deny homeless people exist. But come on. There are 300 million people in N American and nearly all have a place to live, despite bad ol' private propery.
Ah, another idiot who can't read the 2nd word and figure out what it means.
Maybe I should contact the spirits of your ancestors and they can enlighten me. OOOOmmmmm.
Shows what you know about it- it's neither. Oh sure, the original form of the theory is dead- Lenin killed it quite nicely, just as Stephen Gould killed Darwin's theories quite nicely- but neither Evolution nor Communalism is dead. They've just changed. Your narrow view of the world betrays why you think privatization of land is a good idea.
Yeah, as narrow as your ass.
Listen, anyone that invokes the wisdom of a failed pre-industrial culture or the "knowledge" of a crack-pot dead philosophy has very little to offer in the way of a "broader view".
I'm not sure privatization of LAND was a good idea (I have a great many ancestors on one side of the family that would consider the privatization of land to be the single stupidest idea that the White Man brought to America).
These wouldn't be the same ancestors that lacked the wheel and a written language, would they?
It has lead to hoarding and a large number of homeless people.
False on it's face.
It's just like a Marxist to deny reality.
Seriously, anyone that continues to be a Marxist might as well be an astrologer or alchemist. It's just another dead theory.
The paper leaves out an important alternate hypothesis: that punch card systems took votes from Bush in 2000 and Dole in 1996.
Keep in mind that punch card ballots require much more human involvement and that means more opportunity for error (fraud?). The technical knowledge needed for fraud is very minimal. A stiff wire through a stack of ballots is simple. Lying about the count as you report it via simple telephone is even simpler.
It's entirely possible the touch screens are preventing errors that occured under the punch card arrangement.
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Ozymandias
I met a traveler from an antique land Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand, Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read, Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed, And on the pedestal these words appear: "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings: Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
How is this going to hurt the economy? There will be a ton of new jobs, because it's going to create an entire new industry based on finding ways to use energy more efficiently.
You're argument is flawed. If it were a good argument, you could also argue people going around and burning houses down since that would presumable create more jobs in home construction.
Just because science doesn't have a conclusion, doesn't mean there isn't a consensus. Anyone saying the consensus is wrong should probably have some good evidence.
Anyone making an assertion, with or without a concensus, needs good evidence. Consensus brings very little support to a hypothesis. And often, as Crichton pointed out, concensus opposes, without evidence, better hypotheses.
People claiming that concensus justifies some belief are not bahaving like scientists and they aren't thinking for themselves.
Anyone who things science has a "conclusion"... well, you know the rest...
I never said science has a conclusion. What is being debated are the conclusions of certain scientists with regard to climate change.
And it's you that suggests that science has a conclusion here. Your very comment seems to say "how dare he question decades of research!" You seem to think the matter is settled.
But the conservative Right is more wrong than right. Media is driven by profit first and foremost, not by some "liberal bias".
The trouble is that the producers of content tend to be more left than right. When I say producers I mean writers, musicians, etc. The media need content created by such people in order to make money.
Does anyone really take that Crichton essay seriously? i love how he attempts to dispute decades of intensive research in Global Warming by a lot of hand-waving and mumbo-jumbo. I think he doesn't understand what true skepticism is.
And anyone that confuses "intensive research" with "conclusions" doesn't know what science is.
Sorry to break it to you but american media does nto have a "liberal" bias. To the rest fo the world, even your CNN has a "rightwind" bias. Thats how we perceive you.
#1 Western Europe isn't the rest of the world. #2 The Western European media is so leftist that even CNN seems right-wing.
Taxes are fine win me, as long as it's to pay for legitimate services. But I have a hard time seeing what additional government serives VoIP users need to pay for.
I think this is just a case of government seeing another opportunity to use people.
The more I see articles like this the more I think the software business is dead -- at least for small time outfits.
The question to programmers: have you been burned by traders of software? Have you released a program only to see it traded freely? Has it made you want to quit?
Um, you weren't up last night were you? CNN and most of the other major networks *REVISED* their exit polling numbers to match the election around 1 or 2:00am (PST). The poll numbers all day indicated Kerry was going to win almost all of the swing states. Then he doesn't, then the poll numbers were revised... I don't get it either
It's possible to explain this if you assume that late voters tended to vote Bush while early voters tended to vote Kerry.
If some voters are unemployed, they would be available to vote early for Kerry. In fact, those that thought the economy was the number one issue tended to vote Kerry.
People with jobs might think differently about the economy and vote Bush later after they get off work.
This might explain the shift over time. Like ballots, it takes time to process polling data. Early polling data get processed early and is made available early.
Miami-Dade was supposed to be incredibly Democratic and they only got a 54-46 margin.
Very suspect.
Not when you consider that Mel Martinez was running for senate. He's a Cuban-American that fled Castro's Cuba.
There are many Anti-Castro Cuban-Americans in Miami-Dade. I wouldn't be surprise to find that many more came to the polls this election just to vote for Martinez.
Mel Martinez may actually have helped get Bush elected by bringing more Cuban-Americans to the polls.
Maybe they aren't polling a good cross section of each state.
Most of Bush's support tends to come for more rural parts of the country, while Kerry's comes from cities.
So, you're doing a poll. Are you going to drive 30 miles to hicksville, USA or are you going to walk down the stairs from your hotel room to the precinct next door to do your polling?
"In Sandoval County, three Rio Rancho residents said they had a similar problem, with opposite results. They said a touch-screen machine switched their presidential votes from Bush to Kerry."
Of course the abstract for this story only mensions votes being switched from Kerry to Bush.
It's too bad all this energy isn't be directed at trying to correct the problems and fraud caused by paper ballots.
Punching extra holes in a punchcard, or filling in a bubble with a pencil is the easiest thing in the world.
Or how about simply lying about the numbers when you call to report them to the supervisors running the election?
Yes, it really is done that way is many places.
Okay, so you don't trust programmers writing voting software. But how then can you trust all these other people in the chain? What makes you think they're honest?
What about ballots mailed in? How do you know they even make it through the post office? How do the people counting these ballots even know it was you that really sent it? How do they know you're even a real person and not Fido T. Dog?
Vote fraud is real, and it goes way beyond miscalibrated touch screens.
There are ominous signs that the Earth's weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production- with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas - parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia - where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.
The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree - a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars' worth of damage in 13 U.S. states.
To scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world's weather. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic. "A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale," warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, "because the global patterns of food production and population that have evolved are implicitly dependent on the climate of the present century."
A survey completed last year by Dr. Murray Mitchell of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reveals a drop of half a degree in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968. According to George Kukla of Columbia University, satellite photos indicated a sudden, large increase in Northern Hemisphere snow cover in the winter of 1971-72. And a study released last month by two NOAA scientists notes that the amount of sunshine reaching the ground in the continental U.S. diminished by 1.3% between 1964 and 1972.
To the layman, the relatively small changes in temperature and sunshine can be highly misleading. Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin points out that the Earth's average temperature during the great Ice Ages was only about seven degrees lower than during its warmest eras - and that the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average. Others regard the cooling as a reversion to the "little ice age" conditions that brought bitter winters to much of Europe and northern America between 1600 and 1900 - years when the Thames used to freeze so solidly that Londoners roasted oxen on the ice and when iceboats sailed the Hudson River almost as far south as New York City.
Just what causes the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery. "Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data," concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. "Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions."
Meteorologists think that they can forecast the short-term results of the return to the norm of the last century. They begin by noting the slight drop in overall temperature that produces large
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A site that willfully becomes a source of trojans, exploits, and malware deserves to have all it's packets blocked at a high level or black holed.
Why can't this be done?
Just cut them off entirely.
The big players need to get together on this.
They didn't need either to support a population of 10 million humans on this continent. But then again, what would I expect a European to understand that?
I don't care what you expect, but the idea that 10 million people living in N America is some kind of victory for a culture is silly.
The wheel and writing weren't needed to support those 10 million. They were needed to support millions that didn't make it, the millions that died in a primative, underdeveloped culture.
The wheel helps grow food. Private property helps grow food. Writing helps people transmit knowledge that keeps them alive. They're all great inventions that were unknown to Native North Americans.
Really? Which part don't you think exists, the hoarding or the homeless people? Both exist- the more money an individual has, the more land they own, just like homeless people exist.
There are plenty of poor people that own land. I live in a rural area full of people with little money, but lots of land.
And I don't deny homeless people exist. But come on. There are 300 million people in N American and nearly all have a place to live, despite bad ol' private propery.
Ah, another idiot who can't read the 2nd word and figure out what it means.
Maybe I should contact the spirits of your ancestors and they can enlighten me. OOOOmmmmm.
Shows what you know about it- it's neither. Oh sure, the original form of the theory is dead- Lenin killed it quite nicely, just as Stephen Gould killed Darwin's theories quite nicely- but neither Evolution nor Communalism is dead. They've just changed. Your narrow view of the world betrays why you think privatization of land is a good idea.
Yeah, as narrow as your ass.
Listen, anyone that invokes the wisdom of a failed pre-industrial culture or the "knowledge" of a crack-pot dead philosophy has very little to offer in the way of a "broader view".
I'm not sure privatization of LAND was a good idea (I have a great many ancestors on one side of the family that would consider the privatization of land to be the single stupidest idea that the White Man brought to America).
These wouldn't be the same ancestors that lacked the wheel and a written language, would they?
It has lead to hoarding and a large number of homeless people.
False on it's face.
It's just like a Marxist to deny reality.
Seriously, anyone that continues to be a Marxist might as well be an astrologer or alchemist. It's just another dead theory.
The paper leaves out an important alternate hypothesis: that punch card systems took votes from Bush in 2000 and Dole in 1996.
Keep in mind that punch card ballots require much more human involvement and that means more opportunity for error (fraud?). The technical knowledge needed for fraud is very minimal. A stiff wire through a stack of ballots is simple. Lying about the count as you report it via simple telephone is even simpler.
It's entirely possible the touch screens are preventing errors that occured under the punch card arrangement.
Ozymandias
I met a traveler from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read,
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed,
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
-Percy Bysshe Shelley
1792-1822
How is this going to hurt the economy? There will be a ton of new jobs, because it's going to create an entire new industry based on finding ways to use energy more efficiently.
You're argument is flawed. If it were a good argument, you could also argue people going around and burning houses down since that would presumable create more jobs in home construction.
Of course, I may be biased, because the points made in the article are basically the same that underlie a language I'm currently designing. :-)
Well, let's hear more about it. Do you have a link?
Just because science doesn't have a conclusion, doesn't mean there isn't a consensus. Anyone saying the consensus is wrong should probably have some good evidence.
Anyone making an assertion, with or without a concensus, needs good evidence. Consensus brings very little support to a hypothesis. And often, as Crichton pointed out, concensus opposes, without evidence, better hypotheses.
People claiming that concensus justifies some belief are not bahaving like scientists and they aren't thinking for themselves.
Anyone who things science has a "conclusion" ... well, you know the rest...
I never said science has a conclusion. What is being debated are the conclusions of certain scientists with regard to climate change.
And it's you that suggests that science has a conclusion here. Your very comment seems to say "how dare he question decades of research!" You seem to think the matter is settled.
Naughty scientist.
But the conservative Right is more wrong than right. Media is driven by profit first and foremost, not by some "liberal bias".
The trouble is that the producers of content tend to be more left than right. When I say producers I mean writers, musicians, etc. The media need content created by such people in order to make money.
Does anyone really take that Crichton essay seriously? i love how he attempts to dispute decades of intensive research in Global Warming by a lot of hand-waving and mumbo-jumbo. I think he doesn't understand what true skepticism is.
And anyone that confuses "intensive research" with "conclusions" doesn't know what science is.
You do seem to know, however, what "hand-waving" and "mumbo-jumbo" mean.
Sorry to break it to you but american media does nto have a "liberal" bias. To the rest fo the world, even your CNN has a "rightwind" bias. Thats how we perceive you.
#1 Western Europe isn't the rest of the world.
#2 The Western European media is so leftist that even CNN seems right-wing.
The election has made it pretty obvious that we have a country divided into two groups... The Smart versus the Dumb.
Keep talking like that and you'll never win another election again.
Embeded systems and controllers jobs also seem easy to find.
Just curious, but where have you found these?
NOT.
What justifies this sort of taxation?
Taxes are fine win me, as long as it's to pay for legitimate services. But I have a hard time seeing what additional government serives VoIP users need to pay for.
I think this is just a case of government seeing another opportunity to use people.
You haven't lived until you've read RFC 864 in the original Microsoft.
The more I see articles like this the more I think the software business is dead -- at least for small time outfits.
The question to programmers: have you been burned by traders of software? Have you released a program only to see it traded freely? Has it made you want to quit?
Um, you weren't up last night were you? CNN and most of the other major networks *REVISED* their exit polling numbers to match the election around 1 or 2:00am (PST). The poll numbers all day indicated Kerry was going to win almost all of the swing states. Then he doesn't, then the poll numbers were revised... I don't get it either
It's possible to explain this if you assume that late voters tended to vote Bush while early voters tended to vote Kerry.
If some voters are unemployed, they would be available to vote early for Kerry. In fact, those that thought the economy was the number one issue tended to vote Kerry.
People with jobs might think differently about the economy and vote Bush later after they get off work.
This might explain the shift over time. Like ballots, it takes time to process polling data. Early polling data get processed early and is made available early.
Miami-Dade was supposed to be incredibly Democratic and they only got a 54-46 margin.
Very suspect.
Not when you consider that Mel Martinez was running for senate. He's a Cuban-American that fled Castro's Cuba.
There are many Anti-Castro Cuban-Americans in Miami-Dade. I wouldn't be surprise to find that many more came to the polls this election just to vote for Martinez.
Mel Martinez may actually have helped get Bush elected by bringing more Cuban-Americans to the polls.
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I just hope for all of the American people that Dubya doesn't do anything that will make rest of the world hate you even more.
Don't be so one-sided in your criticism. Sometimes hate is a choice.
Maybe they aren't polling a good cross section of each state.
Most of Bush's support tends to come for more rural parts of the country, while Kerry's comes from cities.
So, you're doing a poll. Are you going to drive 30 miles to hicksville, USA or are you going to walk down the stairs from your hotel room to the precinct next door to do your polling?
"In Sandoval County, three Rio Rancho residents said they had a similar problem, with opposite results. They said a touch-screen machine switched their presidential votes from Bush to Kerry."
Of course the abstract for this story only mensions votes being switched from Kerry to Bush.
What a surprise.
It's too bad all this energy isn't be directed at trying to correct the problems and fraud caused by paper ballots.
Punching extra holes in a punchcard, or filling in a bubble with a pencil is the easiest thing in the world.
Or how about simply lying about the numbers when you call to report them to the supervisors running the election?
Yes, it really is done that way is many places.
Okay, so you don't trust programmers writing voting software. But how then can you trust all these other people in the chain? What makes you think they're honest?
What about ballots mailed in? How do you know they even make it through the post office? How do the people counting these ballots even know it was you that really sent it? How do they know you're even a real person and not Fido T. Dog?
Vote fraud is real, and it goes way beyond miscalibrated touch screens.
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There are ominous signs that the Earth's weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production- with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas - parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia - where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.
The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree - a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars' worth of damage in 13 U.S. states.
To scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world's weather. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic. "A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale," warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, "because the global patterns of food production and population that have evolved are implicitly dependent on the climate of the present century."
A survey completed last year by Dr. Murray Mitchell of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reveals a drop of half a degree in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968. According to George Kukla of Columbia University, satellite photos indicated a sudden, large increase in Northern Hemisphere snow cover in the winter of 1971-72. And a study released last month by two NOAA scientists notes that the amount of sunshine reaching the ground in the continental U.S. diminished by 1.3% between 1964 and 1972.
To the layman, the relatively small changes in temperature and sunshine can be highly misleading. Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin points out that the Earth's average temperature during the great Ice Ages was only about seven degrees lower than during its warmest eras - and that the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average. Others regard the cooling as a reversion to the "little ice age" conditions that brought bitter winters to much of Europe and northern America between 1600 and 1900 - years when the Thames used to freeze so solidly that Londoners roasted oxen on the ice and when iceboats sailed the Hudson River almost as far south as New York City.
Just what causes the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery. "Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data," concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. "Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions."
Meteorologists think that they can forecast the short-term results of the return to the norm of the last century. They begin by noting the slight drop in overall temperature that produces large