This *is* what the users see when first presented with the program.
You've hit on the root cause of the problems with oversimplifying the problem of UI design.
What people see when they initially enocounter an interface is immaterial - I could call my terminal emulator icon "rxvt", "xterm", "terminal", "terminal emulator", "command line", "bash", "prompt", "command prompt", or "dos window", and it won't make a difference. Once a person learns what that button does, then they file that piece of information away and use it later.
The problem comes when you have different names for what's functionally the same thing all over the place - if you have menu entries for "xterm", "eterm", "rxvt", "asterm" and "gnome-terminal", you're going to cause confusion.
People are pretty good at learning new interfaces. There might be initial confusion at how things work in the new interface, but that is *not* meant to be taken as critisim of the interface.
It's like putting someone in a standard that has only ever driven an automatic. He's going to be confused, and have a hard time with learning it, all the while cursing and bitching about it. But in a week or two, the use of the interface *should* have faded to the background, and let him get on with driving.
The problem with a UI is if it *doesn't* "fade to the background" and become passively usable that you have a bad UI. The initial reaction is going to be negative regardless of how good it is.
This is nVidia. They've had fully functional drivers on Linux for a while now.
I play Team Arena every night under Linux beautifully on my GeForce2 GTS (with my USB Intellimouse Optical, even). Stuff Just Works under Linux now. It's awesome.
... now if only Loki would get thier ass in gear and get the Tribes 2 Linux Client out the door... --
It's the IP the server is running on, not the client.
If the server is on the net, and the client is behind a firewall, then the server will ask the client to authenticate. (This is the situation when I play Q3 online - my workstation has a 192.168 address, but I still have to do authentication because the public server on says I have to).
If the server you are connecting to is on your LAN (has a 192.168 address) and you are only connecting to it from your LAN, then it won't (shouldn't) try and authenticate.
If, however, anyone tries to join from a non-LAN IP address, then it will.
and maybe even certain stretches of dangerous highways in order to prevent accidents caused by drivers yapping on their phones too much to pay attention to the road.
And to prevent the people who get in the accidents from calling for help?
And has knowing the definition of this word, or having had an insigifigant insight onto Jewish culture made you a better person?
No, you're the same person as you were at 16:00, but with a small nugget of useless, idle knowledge.
Do you want to spend your lifetime with the constant temptation to go look up pieces of useless knowledge whenever you're reading something, rather than spending the time concentrating on what you're reading?
Of course, I'm talking about a slashdot comment here, not high literature or anything, but think about it for a while - it's a recipie for a culture of people who can't simply sit down and concentrate - people who'll break off and go do something else the first time they don't understand something.
The ability to concentrate and focus on what you're doing is worth a hell of alot more than a lifetime of small nuggets of useless, idle, transitory knowledge.
It's paid for in the Tuition. Or did you think University was free?
Oh, and alot of University's access sucks ass nowadays. Yeah, in 1991 when it was installed, it was l33t high speed, but hardly any more.
Of course, I'm only speaking from my university, but their access & their network both suck horrible ass - only thier email is remotely reliable.
The thing is, 6 years ago, that level of access kicked ass.
I honestly think that the whole "we give you free access, so you have to do everything we say" is a bullshit argument. Most students nowadays have thier own email accounts (hotmail or otherwise), and half of the compsci students I've talked to have cable. The thing is, is that they are forced by the university to use the university account to converse with thier profs - hardly anything is sent to external emails.
So, in my case, anyway, the argument has turned into "we give you a mediocre email account, and an unusably crappy dial up account, and shitty network access while on campus, and force you to use it do communicate with your professors, and everything you do on it are belong to us" .
Sorry if that doesn't exactly sound like they're bending over backwards.
make doesn't bail out at all - after I install & reboot, insmod bails out on pretty much everything with unresolved symbol errors. I'll try fucking around in the USB section and see.
and it's worse, because I'm being a dweeb and using Win2k's bootloader, I have to reboot to the 2.2.18 kernel so I can mount the windows drive (as the vfat module wouldn't load in 2.4.1) so I can update window's copy of the boot record of the drive I'm booting off of.
So... by you way of thinking open source operating system is bad because you can modify the source to your liking? Well open source has made linux stronger and more stable than windows.
... and GPL'ing Quake 1 killed it. Dead. TFC Cheating was already rampant, but when it was GPL'ed, there was no hope at all.
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This *is* what the users see when first presented with the program.
You've hit on the root cause of the problems with oversimplifying the problem of UI design.
What people see when they initially enocounter an interface is immaterial - I could call my terminal emulator icon "rxvt", "xterm", "terminal", "terminal emulator", "command line", "bash", "prompt", "command prompt", or "dos window", and it won't make a difference. Once a person learns what that button does, then they file that piece of information away and use it later.
The problem comes when you have different names for what's functionally the same thing all over the place - if you have menu entries for "xterm", "eterm", "rxvt", "asterm" and "gnome-terminal", you're going to cause confusion.
People are pretty good at learning new interfaces. There might be initial confusion at how things work in the new interface, but that is *not* meant to be taken as critisim of the interface.
It's like putting someone in a standard that has only ever driven an automatic. He's going to be confused, and have a hard time with learning it, all the while cursing and bitching about it. But in a week or two, the use of the interface *should* have faded to the background, and let him get on with driving.
The problem with a UI is if it *doesn't* "fade to the background" and become passively usable that you have a bad UI. The initial reaction is going to be negative regardless of how good it is.
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Umm, you aren't paying attention very well. That license applies to the site in general. It also has a neat little phrase in it :
"non-commercial internal use only unless specifically licensed to do otherwise by Empower Technologies Inc .
So, if I download a linux kernel, that is something that would have to be GPL'ed, which is a specific licence to do otherwise.
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There hasn't been a dominant development environment for the last 20 years (unless you consider the C language, which I guess you could).
But that was standard, free, and efficient.
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The Case Against Micropayments
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When he said 'compiled', he assuredly meant 'Python compiled to C', not 'Python compiled to C compiled to binaries'.
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This is nVidia. They've had fully functional drivers on Linux for a while now.
I play Team Arena every night under Linux beautifully on my GeForce2 GTS (with my USB Intellimouse Optical, even). Stuff Just Works under Linux now. It's awesome.
... now if only Loki would get thier ass in gear and get the Tribes 2 Linux Client out the door...
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So you're saying you wouldn't prefer the hot chick to a Palm?
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It's the IP the server is running on, not the client.
If the server is on the net, and the client is behind a firewall, then the server will ask the client to authenticate. (This is the situation when I play Q3 online - my workstation has a 192.168 address, but I still have to do authentication because the public server on says I have to).
If the server you are connecting to is on your LAN (has a 192.168 address) and you are only connecting to it from your LAN, then it won't (shouldn't) try and authenticate.
If, however, anyone tries to join from a non-LAN IP address, then it will.
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Wrong. It doesn't authenticate if the interface it's running on is a LAN address (192.168.* and such).
IPX is dead in terms of games. I can't remember the last time I ever even saw an IPX game. Diablo 1 was the last one I played.
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And to prevent the people who get in the accidents from calling for help?
Yeah, whatever.
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TV doesn't have RCA ins (it's old). DVD doesn't have COAX out.
End result? shelling out $50 (cdn) for a macrovision nuking box.
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Since when did "Engineer" mean "Tech support monkey" ?
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There's something in the kernel setup I've seen, but never enabled - Network Block Device.
It looks like it's intended to do exactly that - share a block device over the network.
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And has knowing the definition of this word, or having had an insigifigant insight onto Jewish culture made you a better person?
No, you're the same person as you were at 16:00, but with a small nugget of useless, idle knowledge.
Do you want to spend your lifetime with the constant temptation to go look up pieces of useless knowledge whenever you're reading something, rather than spending the time concentrating on what you're reading?
Of course, I'm talking about a slashdot comment here, not high literature or anything, but think about it for a while - it's a recipie for a culture of people who can't simply sit down and concentrate - people who'll break off and go do something else the first time they don't understand something.
The ability to concentrate and focus on what you're doing is worth a hell of alot more than a lifetime of small nuggets of useless, idle, transitory knowledge.
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Umm, "Free"!?!?!
It's paid for in the Tuition. Or did you think University was free?
Oh, and alot of University's access sucks ass nowadays. Yeah, in 1991 when it was installed, it was l33t high speed, but hardly any more.
Of course, I'm only speaking from my university, but their access & their network both suck horrible ass - only thier email is remotely reliable.
The thing is, 6 years ago, that level of access kicked ass.
I honestly think that the whole "we give you free access, so you have to do everything we say" is a bullshit argument. Most students nowadays have thier own email accounts (hotmail or otherwise), and half of the compsci students I've talked to have cable. The thing is, is that they are forced by the university to use the university account to converse with thier profs - hardly anything is sent to external emails.
So, in my case, anyway, the argument has turned into "we give you a mediocre email account, and an unusably crappy dial up account, and shitty network access while on campus, and force you to use it do communicate with your professors, and everything you do on it are belong to us" .
Sorry if that doesn't exactly sound like they're bending over backwards.
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make doesn't bail out at all - after I install & reboot, insmod bails out on pretty much everything with unresolved symbol errors. I'll try fucking around in the USB section and see.
and it's worse, because I'm being a dweeb and using Win2k's bootloader, I have to reboot to the 2.2.18 kernel so I can mount the windows drive (as the vfat module wouldn't load in 2.4.1) so I can update window's copy of the boot record of the drive I'm booting off of.
really fun.
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I'm not the person to ask, as I can't even load modules on my 2.4.1 kernel yet.
It looks like there are symbols in arch/i386/lib/mmx.o that the modules can't find. Fucking weird.
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The RIO has drivers in the kernel. I don't know if they work, but I've seen them enough trying to get 2.4.1 & USB working for the last 3 days...
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AC posts start at Zero.
They can be moderated down once before no more negative moderatino can be done.
They can be moderated up 5 times before no more positive moderation can be done.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the "real work" of a sysadmin exactly that - maintenence?
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Who is your favourite Shoto?
* Ken
* Ryu
* Satsui no Hadou Mezameta Ryu
* Akuma
* Dan Hibiki
* Makoto
* Sean
* CowboyNeal
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Anonymous Coward had over 2000 last time we were told. This has certainly increased.
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So is the movie.
Don't worry.
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Debian's menu system should do that.
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... and GPL'ing Quake 1 killed it. Dead. TFC Cheating was already rampant, but when it was GPL'ed, there was no hope at all.
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