That "massive bailout" was 150 Mil in non-voting stock. Neither massive, nor a bailout....that show 3 guys as the Mac creators. Gates is one of them. I think maybe you mistook Bill Atkinson for Gates.
This isn't as simple as Apple not flipping the iPod WMA bit just to flip off Microsoft, although that's the implication in the article.
Well yeah, the chip supports it. but that's just a small part of the total system. Apple would also have to integrate WMA into iTunes for Mac and Windows. To really do it right, it might be added at a lower level into Mac OS X as well.
That now ties Apple into paying M$ royalties on iTunes and iPod, perhaps even OS X, and having to continually disclose to M$ on the number of units sold and to who.
I think that Apple would want to avoid any further entanglements with M$ if they can be avoided. They know well what happens when you dance with the devil. Apple has probably suffered more from Microsoft's abusive practices than anyone.
And one more thing... Drop the constant whining about OGG. Please.
Although it may be an interesting discussion on what's fair and what's not, it's all a moot point. If you have enough money, you can shape the legal system in any way you see fit. This isn't insightful, or interesting, and certainly not funny. It's just the sad truth.
Besides, anyone with enough power and money to be involved with the decision making in Microsoft's predatory affairs almost certainly has shares of MSFT in their portfolio.
Microsoft isn't a bunch of sharks, they are the ocean we all swim in. Sucks, but that's how it is.
I didn't mean me. I could care less. I was responding to the comments of others in this thread. I've certainly just tasted the whine....
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I wish that there was a Special logo on every dollar and every paid invoice to these companies that would remind them that they do not own us and it is a privilege to serve it's valued customers instead of treating us like lambs waiting to be shorn, wearing retention collars and being fed confinement loaf.
I'm looking for a toilet tissue that's both soft and absorbant, but I don't want to pay a premium price. I've looked at the bargain brands, but I didn't think they would get my question posted on Slashdot.
Can you geeks tell me what your experiences are? I've recently come into some money and want to make the right choice, but being a poor college student, I still have to stay within a reasonable budget.
I was in on a conversation with Alias guys when they were building the first OS X ports. The biggest difficulty was getting the compiler and linker to handle its size and changes were made to the tools to handle it. Remember that there's lots of legacy code in there and it was added to being only concerned with making IRIX happy. Portability was not a primary concern. They said GCC was overcome at the time. That delayed release and also caused a great deal of tension at the time between the old school SGI guys and the upstart OS X unix box proponents.
Open Source Maya? The source code is huge, probably bigger than several Linux distros. Probably few could build it. Or even download it. Although you would like a free copy, open source isn't the answer to everything, especially large mission critical, highly complex applications.
Richard Kerris, tech diplomat extraordinaire and benefactor to the stars, was the exec at Alias that made the OS X port of Maya happen. He's now Apple's Senior Director of Pro Applications.
I spent a year in the late 80's on a three person team writing a paint package entirely in assembly for Truevision. It all ran on the TI graphics chip on the frame buffer. The result was fast, tiny, and surprisingly versatile, fast or faster than Gimp does today on your average Linux box, which is surprising considering the CPU speeds at the time.
I think that every CS student needs at least a couple semesters of asm before they can call themselves a computer scientist. There's no better training to teach you how to avoid bloatware and feature creep and how to approach things with simplicity in mind.
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You've made several very good points.
I agree that supporting more formats, including OGG would be good for all.
..they could drop the price on the iPods by not having to pay the MP3 licensing fee.
So you think they should drop mp3 support and just run ogg???
Wow, that's a business strategy. And they say Mac users are delusional....
next, I'm waiting for someone to bring up Xerox and one button mice.
That "massive bailout" was 150 Mil in non-voting stock. ...that show 3 guys as the Mac creators. Gates is one of them.
Neither massive, nor a bailout.
I think maybe you mistook Bill Atkinson for Gates.
This isn't as simple as Apple not flipping the iPod WMA bit just to flip off Microsoft,
although that's the implication in the article.
Well yeah, the chip supports it. but that's just a small part of the total system.
Apple would also have to integrate WMA into iTunes for Mac and Windows.
To really do it right, it might be added at a lower level into Mac OS X as well.
That now ties Apple into paying M$ royalties on iTunes and iPod, perhaps even
OS X, and having to continually disclose to M$ on the number of units sold and to who.
I think that Apple would want to avoid any further entanglements with M$ if they
can be avoided. They know well what happens when you dance with the devil.
Apple has probably suffered more from Microsoft's abusive practices than anyone.
And one more thing... Drop the constant whining about OGG. Please.
But you're Plastic people.
Oh, Baby, now you're such a drag
What?
Although it may be an interesting discussion on what's fair and what's not,
it's all a moot point. If you have enough money, you can shape the legal
system in any way you see fit. This isn't insightful, or interesting, and
certainly not funny. It's just the sad truth.
Besides, anyone with enough power and money to be involved with
the decision making in Microsoft's predatory affairs almost certainly
has shares of MSFT in their portfolio.
Microsoft isn't a bunch of sharks, they are the ocean we all swim in.
Sucks, but that's how it is.
I didn't mean me. I could care less. I was responding to the comments of others in this thread.
I've certainly just tasted the whine....
I wish that there was a Special logo on every dollar and every paid invoice to these companies that would
remind them that they do not own us and it is a privilege to serve it's valued customers instead of treating
us like lambs waiting to be shorn, wearing retention collars and being fed confinement loaf.
...his place was supposed to set a higher tone ..
The insult and injuries inflicted by episodes I & II run deep.
This is but meager payback.
I caught Larvasonic last summer, those guys rock.
Although comment understand your syntax mangled.
I can do pretty much anything
Mac OS X
You tell time with a sundial too? Spin your own wool?
Doesn't she mean sandbox architecture?
Not from what I've seen of most Java apps.
Although nobody wants to pay for handcrafted quality any more...
vi > C > sh > make > repeat
is the high art of software development.
I'm looking for a toilet tissue that's both soft and absorbant, but I don't want to pay a premium price.
I've looked at the bargain brands, but I didn't think they would get my question posted on Slashdot.
Can you geeks tell me what your experiences are? I've recently come into some money and want to
make the right choice, but being a poor college student, I still have to stay within a reasonable budget.
I was in on a conversation with Alias guys when they were building the first OS X ports.
The biggest difficulty was getting the compiler and linker to handle its size and changes were
made to the tools to handle it. Remember that there's lots of legacy code in there and
it was added to being only concerned with making IRIX happy. Portability was not a
primary concern. They said GCC was overcome at the time. That delayed release and
also caused a great deal of tension at the time between the old school SGI guys and
the upstart OS X unix box proponents.
Open Source Maya? The source code is huge, probably bigger than several Linux distros.
Probably few could build it. Or even download it. Although you would like a free copy,
open source isn't the answer to everything, especially large mission critical, highly complex applications.
It wouldn't likely be Microsoft.
They owned SoftImage for a while (Alias' main competition at the time) and it didn't work out.
Richard Kerris, tech diplomat extraordinaire and benefactor to the stars, was the exec at Alias
that made the OS X port of Maya happen. He's now Apple's Senior Director of Pro Applications.
Yes. White, shiny, mean looking robots. That play cricket.
Nope. That was SGI stuff, running the 'fsn' app. It was, indeed, a UNIX system.
I spent a year in the late 80's on a three person team writing a paint package entirely in assembly for Truevision.
It all ran on the TI graphics chip on the frame buffer. The result was fast, tiny, and surprisingly versatile,
fast or faster than Gimp does today on your average Linux box, which is surprising considering the CPU speeds at the time.
I think that every CS student needs at least a couple semesters of asm before they can call themselves
a computer scientist. There's no better training to teach you how to avoid bloatware and feature creep and
how to approach things with simplicity in mind.