The con- stancy of wind power costs justifies a relatively higher cost per kWh compared to the more risky future costs of conventional power due to volatile oil, coal and gas prices.
Whatever the truth is : MASSIVE investments in windpower is being done by big energy companies, so it can't THAT expensive methinks.
to produce power and both are horrifically inefficient
an electric engine is CERTAINLY NOT inefficient. In fact, replacing the gearbox of an ICE with an EVT (electric transmission : ICE engine --> electricity --> electric engines at the wheels) INCREASES the fuel efficiency of the car ! http://martinhoeijmakers.nl/publications/hoe2004b.pdf in fact, generating electricty from oil, and using it in electric cars also is more fuel efficient as the ICE. dumping batteries you say ? Why ? you can SELL them: a broken battery is worth a lot.
1/Tracks and buses are hardly cars, diesel/petrol vehicles are more fuel efficient the bigger they get. And even for those heavy vehicles engine effiency not fuel to wheel efficiency(think about transmission losses, brake losses, idling...) is not even 50%(how can you consider that a good number ???). 2/it seems you are the one worshipping diesels, I am not worshipping electric cars nor diesel/petrol cars. I am only saying diesel/petrol cars are horribly inefficient.
Sure, electric vehicles are currently limited by batteries(best is currently 300miles or so with the tesla), but NOT by their engine. The best solution would probably be cars with permanent links to the grid (like trains) but I don't see that happening.
yeah, well, the 25% quoted is also only for the oil in the tank, not for pumping it up, transporting it and refining it. (which would bring the 25% close to 10%...)
generating electricity (even with gasoline!) and transmitting the electricity, putting it in the battery, taking it out of the battery, and converting it to motion: is MORE efficient than burning the gasoline in an ICE... google it: Piles of links to support that statement.
STOP! european and US norms are apparently different... U-value (US) != U-value (EU) (and we also got Uw-value, K-value,... ) my new argon double-pane-windows are rated 1.1. (that's 4mm-15mm-4mm )
You have very badly insulated walls. the best windows on the market are triple pane with about U=0.5, the best double-panes are 0.8 or 0.9. a badly insulated wall starts at max U=0.6 (I think the building-standard(in Belgium) calls for U=0.35 walls) [LOWER is BETTER] [I think U = the # watts lost per hour per degree difference in Kelvin]
vote a bit more for the military-industrial complex, and the roles will be reversed. hint : with the democrats it will take a bit more time (but not much).
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subsidies you say ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price%E2%80%93Anderson_Nuclear_Industries_Indemnity_Act
"If the nuclear industry cannot have enough faith in its own technology to guarantee full responsibility for their own mishaps, then nuclear energy does not deserve these continued taxpayer subsidies. "
cost ?
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Cents_Per_Kilowatt-Hour
http://www.ewea.org/fileadmin/ewea_documents/documents/publications/factsheets/factsheet_economy2.pdf
The con-
stancy of wind power costs justifies a relatively
higher cost per kWh compared to the more risky
future costs of conventional power due to volatile
oil, coal and gas prices.
Whatever the truth is : MASSIVE investments in windpower is being done by big energy companies, so it can't THAT expensive methinks.
to produce power and both are horrifically inefficient
an electric engine is CERTAINLY NOT inefficient. In fact, replacing the gearbox of an ICE with an EVT (electric transmission : ICE engine --> electricity --> electric engines at the wheels) INCREASES the fuel efficiency of the car !
http://martinhoeijmakers.nl/publications/hoe2004b.pdf
in fact, generating electricty from oil, and using it in electric cars also is more fuel efficient as the ICE. dumping batteries you say ? Why ? you can SELL them: a broken battery is worth a lot.
here we go again with the baseload fairytale.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/efmh/winds/aj07_jamc.pdf
http://www.no-fuel.org/index.php?id=242
can you back that up with a few links to studies ?
forks down !
peacefully and lovingly help each other.
Die you commie !
What is liberal? conservative ?
censorship applies to opinions, hate is not an opinion.
1/Tracks and buses are hardly cars, diesel/petrol vehicles are more fuel efficient the bigger they get. And even for those heavy vehicles engine effiency not fuel to wheel efficiency(think about transmission losses, brake losses, idling ...) is not even 50%(how can you consider that a good number ???).
2/it seems you are the one worshipping diesels, I am not worshipping electric cars nor diesel/petrol cars. I am only saying diesel/petrol cars are horribly inefficient.
http://jagadees.wordpress.com/2007/10/20/ic-engine-efficiency/
ICE hitting 50% when the condition become right
NEVER in a car.
Sure, electric vehicles are currently limited by batteries(best is currently 300miles or so with the tesla), but NOT by their engine. The best solution would probably be cars with permanent links to the grid (like trains) but I don't see that happening.
yeah, well, the 25% quoted is also only for the oil in the tank, not for pumping it up, transporting it and refining it. (which would bring the 25% close to 10% ...)
That's a FULL 10 second search on google ... :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_vehicle
'electric motors often achieve 90% energy conversion efficiency[31] over the full range of speeds and power output and can be precisely controlled.'
my point? ICE's are (even after 100+ f&cking years!) awfully inefficient. 25% ? you've got to be kidding me ... ICE's have no claim to be ingenious.
generating electricity (even with gasoline!) and transmitting the electricity, putting it in the battery, taking it out of the battery, and converting it to motion: is MORE efficient than burning the gasoline in an ICE ...
google it: Piles of links to support that statement.
electric engines : >90%
'ingenious' maybe we shouldn't call an ICE an engine then, seeing that it wastes 75% of the energy provided to it ?
Maybe 'Science Fiction' is a major misnomer for all works currently filed under it.
Science fiction ? Star Wars is more like future fantasy, and Star Trek is more future fiction.
As an europen i say :
WTF ??? the right to carry concealed weapons ???
STOP! european and US norms are apparently different ... U-value (US) != U-value (EU) (and we also got Uw-value, K-value, ... )
my new argon double-pane-windows are rated 1.1. (that's 4mm-15mm-4mm )
You have very badly insulated walls. the best windows on the market are triple pane with about U=0.5, the best double-panes are 0.8 or 0.9. a badly insulated wall starts at max U=0.6 (I think the building-standard(in Belgium) calls for U=0.35 walls) [LOWER is BETTER]
[I think U = the # watts lost per hour per degree difference in Kelvin]
vote a bit more for the military-industrial complex, and the roles will be reversed. hint : with the democrats it will take a bit more time (but not much).
Yeah, al those other moon- mars- and other space-missions where a walk in the park ...