Are you saying the program on the card is run before the tallying and that's what "fixes" the totals?
Yes.
The card was touched before the open of the election. The card was validated at the start of the polling. The card was untouched through the election and after the election. The results were altered. Watch the film..
So the demonstration at the end showed how this could work - they voted in a fake election. They had six votes for "Yes" and two votes for "No". They put in the hacked memory card and it produces the initial printout which shows zero votes for no and zero votes for yes. After entering in the votes through the machine it comes out as seven for "Yes" and one for "No" (so I guess they had -5 "No" and +5 for "Yes" on the hacked card).
Just to set the record straight;
The vote was can the machine be hacked?
6 no votes were cast and 2 yes votes were cast.
The pre count showed no votes cast for either option and no votes cast.
After the count (optical scan) the official verified result was 7 yes and one no.
My question is - why did the initial printout show zero votes?
The initial votes on the card were zero..
The important question is.. How did the final count get altered?
Answer.. The card that does not contain a program actualy does contain a program. That program altered the result. Re-watch the film. The card contains much more than just the poll totals which is denied by the manufacture.
I would hope the machines would format any card at the start of an election and then write the encrypted count totals to the card and nothing else except a checksum and the machine ID number.
The only way they were able to get the machine to give incorrect results was basically to get the machine in private, and then reprogram the memory card.
WRONG!
No access to the machine needed during or after the election. Please re-watch the film. Access to the memory card before the election was all that was needed. What is important is who watches the cards the night before the election? The tampered card showed no votes registered before the election with no votes for either option. It passed as genuine. After the election the official tape print out showed the correct number of votes cast and to total votes for each choice did total to the total number of votes cast. However the official results did not represent the correct totals cast for each option.
Again, who has access to the cards before the election? Do you trust them?
Also, most of the movie focuses on this really mouthy woman I don't really care for.
If you want to stick with blockbuster hollywood entertainment, that's fine. This is a documentry. The content is the star of the show, not the lady's acting.
Alright people, there should be no talking for 1 hr 21 min 57 secs after the post, or else you didn't WTFM!
True, unless you are one of the people who already noticed it was posted to Google before Slashdot posted it.
I was in the educational videos last night watching the "Physics for Future Presidents" lectures. (great stuff!) I noticed the Dibold video in my search results. That was some pretty hot stuff and covered some pretty blarring problems including official records in the trash and other serious descrepancys.
The memory card hack was the most impressive with the test of the system with 8 votes. 2 for and 6 against votes cast in the test with the memory card hack. The offical results show serious problems with the result showing 7 yes and one no in the official verified total.
Also toss on flash. In Ubuntu it isn't as easy as clicking on the link in a web page that says "flash is required to view this content; get flash here". It would be nice to install it for them.
If you are visiting the seedier part of town and want some protection, may I interest you in a live CD?
I've used live CD's while on the road and had to use a hotel internet connection. Who knows what could be in the middle there. I fired up Ubuntu as a live CD and hit the web. Stayed away from e-mail and any finance sites while on the road. It was fine for checking mountain pass conditions for travel and entertainment via youtube and other sites.
At the end of the session, simply power off. Nothing is written to the hard drive.
they should wonder themselves what makes youtube so popular.
I think it would be funny if they simply disabled the audio track on any content with a sound track and replaced it with a random creative commons track with the same beat and left it that way to avoid a video having a copyrighted soundtrack of silence.
Then the submission page should include the "original content, not a copy" requirement. Any violations will include releasing uploader information to the copyright owner's lawyer.
It would be good to see new creative new works. It would make it painfuly clear that youtube is not going to do free promotions. Commercial trailers would be charged advertising rates simply because they are advertisements. I know it's harsh, but something has to give to make it work. Some of the best commercials are ones from Japan. The "Cog" commercial was fantastic along with other Rube Goldberg machines commercials.
Very true. Having unprotected connections with unknown providers of active content is risky.
It is risky to open an e-mail and it says use this key to open the attachment. I apply the same caution to any video which requires me to use this provided player to view the content.
If the video says it needs Quicktime, I should be able to go to Apple on my own and install Quicktime from the source (don't follow a provided link).
In Linux I run as a user, not an admin. It is difficult to get a drive by install on my Linux box. Running Linux does not make you invincable, but it goes a long way to putting up barriers to an infection. A condom and Linux put up barriers to infection though neither is 100% effective. Because it is not 100% effective is no reason to not use it unless you prefer abstinence as an alternative.
Windows upgrades have always worked on bare hard drives by inserting a CD (or floppy) for the product you are upgrading from, no need to have it actually installed.
I can tell you never did the Windows 95 upgrade. It does not boot. It does not install from DOS. It does require Windows 3.X which requires DOS. After that to get on the web, required installing a browser such as IE seprately. After my 3rd system rebuild, I swore off upgrades on upgrades and opted for fresh installs only.
I have a very can do attitude when it comes to Vista. As in, I can do without Vista.
I have learned from my past mistakes what the upgrade treadmill problems are.
I was running DOS. On top of that I installed Windows 3.1. On top of that I installed the Windows 95 Upgrade (the one without IE included) and installed IE as a seprate program. This process took several years and went through several hardware upgrades such as memory, hard drive, and later motherboard and CPU. Each re-instalation was a major pain. I learned quickly never to do upgrade upon upgrade again. It just takes too long. Windows 98 was a replacement, not an upgrade on top.
What I learned is the upgrade is nice IF the upgrade is a replacement, not an upgrade that requires a prior qualifying product to be already installed.
In a nutshell. If the upgrade is a stand alone fresh install, that if fine. Doing an install and then doing an install, and then doing an install... Forget it. You will regret it on your first hard drive replacement.
So.. To properly answer the question.. I need to know what kind of upgrade we are talking about. Does it do a fresh install, or does it require the prior qualified (auth per WGA perhaps) version installed? I would hate to do the recovery from a dead hard drive to include install, configure networking for phone home, patch, WGA auth, install service packs, upgrade, re auth with WGA, install applications such as MS office, re auth with WGA, etc.
To repeat the question, Will the upgrade install on a bare new hare drive or does it need a pre-qualified install of the prior version? Using the Genuine Windows sticker number is not a problem. Doing an endless install on install is a problem.
People entering the US on valid visas have few options but to submit their laptop or face denial of entry and possible revocation of their visa and denial of pending applications.
I wonder what they do with laptops with no configured e-mail client? I've gone completely to web based e-mail. When I clear my cache, history, and cookies, then compress my drive, there is little evidence left of e-mail.
"Sir, we're going to have to confiscate this laptop computer, our highly trained canine has detected the presence of a banned and extremely dangerous substance!"
Probably secure encryption. Check the US Export controls restricted technology list. Some of my software titles are not for export due to the technology they contain.
It's laughable. US encryption is a restricted export. The non-US encryption from Isreal isn't too bad.
noticed that, below the sticker that read "this CD does not conform to CD Audio specifications and may not play in all CD players" there was a Sony BMG logo.
SONY or not, I boycott non-CD's. As much as I like Wierd AL, the DRM is boycotted on this one. SONY is just a bonus reason to not buy it.
Yes. Laughing at the weird customs of foreigners brings us together as a human family.
What I miss is the magician. In the USA, the bigger and flashier the better. In Japan the smaller close-up but seemingly impossible magic is what I found interesting. Anyone else amazed at the glass trick where a salt shaker is passed up through a glass top table? How about tossing a playing card inside a fishtank, then reaching through the tank back glass to fetch the card? Another street magic trick is the one where he tapes a piece of paper onto a shop front window, then goes inside the shop, then comes out by tearing a hole through the paper and climbing through, then removing the paper showing an intact glass window. Wow. That leaves a lot of the US flashy magic tricks looking pretty pale.
I hate to get stuck on the upgrade treadmill, as you might notice...
Upgrade only if you have a compelling reason. If it works fine on your dial up connection for reading Slashdot, then there is no reason to upgrade. However if you want to play trackmania while talking on Skype on a broadband connection, then you might want to look into an upgrade.
My daughter had an online class. The class required IE, Flash, JS, and other holes in security counter to my web browsing guidelines. To prevent it becoming a melted down bot, I pointed it's network setting for DNS to localhost instead my residential gateway. (I know, I just broke the web) I then manualy put just the 7 required sites in the hosts file with correct URL addresses. The end result was the school sites worked and nothing else did. The online course worked like a charm without getting owned. The cavot is the machine could not be used for both homework and web browsing.
It also wouldn't let me format it. I used my mp3 player to format the card, but Windows still says it's write-protected.
SD cards have a dum dum switch on the side of the card. It didn't get bumped into the lock position by any chance? That little switch on the side of the card will cause all your symptoms as it prevents all writes including a format.
Write back and let us know if it was the dum dum switch.
The goal of the forthcoming Joint Economic Committee study is to help lawmakers understand the issues involved and head off any premature attempt to impose a tax on virtual economies,
How the heck would the government spend a few Neopoints from Neopets?
Maybe the game sites need to be sure the point system in the game is properly listed as having a cash value much like coupons did for a while. Remember when states wanted to charge a sales tax on cents off coupons? The coupons started having a cash value of 0.005 cents each in the USA. You would need to have 200 of them to have a cash value of a penny.
It would take a lot of coupons to have a taxable value of interest to the IRS. Expired coupons have no cash value.
are only sustainable because component makers such as Intel choose to prop up the business
Intel is in the chip business. They are in the chip business to make money. Other than getting a contract to sell Apple some chips, where is this prop up business thing? I do not have any knowledge of Intel using a bunch of Mac's on the desktop.
I have a feeling Intel may have many more Dell PC's than Apple PC's in their operations.
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Are you saying the program on the card is run before the tallying and that's what "fixes" the totals?
Yes.
The card was touched before the open of the election. The card was validated at the start of the polling. The card was untouched through the election and after the election. The results were altered. Watch the film..
So the demonstration at the end showed how this could work - they voted in a fake election. They had six votes for "Yes" and two votes for "No". They put in the hacked memory card and it produces the initial printout which shows zero votes for no and zero votes for yes. After entering in the votes through the machine it comes out as seven for "Yes" and one for "No" (so I guess they had -5 "No" and +5 for "Yes" on the hacked card).
Just to set the record straight;
The vote was can the machine be hacked?
6 no votes were cast and 2 yes votes were cast.
The pre count showed no votes cast for either option and no votes cast.
After the count (optical scan) the official verified result was 7 yes and one no.
My question is - why did the initial printout show zero votes?
The initial votes on the card were zero..
The important question is.. How did the final count get altered?
Answer.. The card that does not contain a program actualy does contain a program. That program altered the result. Re-watch the film. The card contains much more than just the poll totals which is denied by the manufacture.
I would hope the machines would format any card at the start of an election and then write the encrypted count totals to the card and nothing else except a checksum and the machine ID number.
The only way they were able to get the machine to give incorrect results was basically to get the machine in private, and then reprogram the memory card.
WRONG!
No access to the machine needed during or after the election. Please re-watch the film. Access to the memory card before the election was all that was needed. What is important is who watches the cards the night before the election? The tampered card showed no votes registered before the election with no votes for either option. It passed as genuine. After the election the official tape print out showed the correct number of votes cast and to total votes for each choice did total to the total number of votes cast. However the official results did not represent the correct totals cast for each option.
Again, who has access to the cards before the election? Do you trust them?
We read about these busts quite frequently, but I wonder what percentage of these guys are actually convicted and jailed.
I hope it is enough to reduce the number of e-mail messages I get telling me of problems with my non-existant e-bay account.
Also, most of the movie focuses on this really mouthy woman I don't really care for.
If you want to stick with blockbuster hollywood entertainment, that's fine. This is a documentry. The content is the star of the show, not the lady's acting.
The content is HOT!
Alright people, there should be no talking for 1 hr 21 min 57 secs after the post, or else you didn't WTFM!
True, unless you are one of the people who already noticed it was posted to Google before Slashdot posted it.
I was in the educational videos last night watching the "Physics for Future Presidents" lectures. (great stuff!) I noticed the Dibold video in my search results. That was some pretty hot stuff and covered some pretty blarring problems including official records in the trash and other serious descrepancys.
The memory card hack was the most impressive with the test of the system with 8 votes. 2 for and 6 against votes cast in the test with the memory card hack. The offical results show serious problems with the result showing 7 yes and one no in the official verified total.
My hats off to the lady who started it all.
Also toss on flash. In Ubuntu it isn't as easy as clicking on the link in a web page that says "flash is required to view this content; get flash here". It would be nice to install it for them.
WITH NO WAY TO CHANGE ANYTHING ON MY COMPUTER.
If you are visiting the seedier part of town and want some protection, may I interest you in a live CD?
I've used live CD's while on the road and had to use a hotel internet connection. Who knows what could be in the middle there. I fired up Ubuntu as a live CD and hit the web. Stayed away from e-mail and any finance sites while on the road. It was fine for checking mountain pass conditions for travel and entertainment via youtube and other sites.
At the end of the session, simply power off. Nothing is written to the hard drive.
they should wonder themselves what makes youtube so popular.
I think it would be funny if they simply disabled the audio track on any content with a sound track and replaced it with a random creative commons track with the same beat and left it that way to avoid a video having a copyrighted soundtrack of silence.
Then the submission page should include the "original content, not a copy" requirement. Any violations will include releasing uploader information to the copyright owner's lawyer.
It would be good to see new creative new works. It would make it painfuly clear that youtube is not going to do free promotions. Commercial trailers would be charged advertising rates simply because they are advertisements. I know it's harsh, but something has to give to make it work. Some of the best commercials are ones from Japan. The "Cog" commercial was fantastic along with other Rube Goldberg machines commercials.
Running Linux does not make you invincable.
Very true. Having unprotected connections with unknown providers of active content is risky.
It is risky to open an e-mail and it says use this key to open the attachment. I apply the same caution to any video which requires me to use this provided player to view the content.
If the video says it needs Quicktime, I should be able to go to Apple on my own and install Quicktime from the source (don't follow a provided link).
In Linux I run as a user, not an admin. It is difficult to get a drive by install on my Linux box. Running Linux does not make you invincable, but it goes a long way to putting up barriers to an infection. A condom and Linux put up barriers to infection though neither is 100% effective. Because it is not 100% effective is no reason to not use it unless you prefer abstinence as an alternative.
A fresh install after a hard drive install is fine.
When installig on a bare hard drive, the upgrade version might ask you to pop in the previous version's CD for proof.
I hope the pop in the prior CD works on the ghost image many vendors have provided in place of a Windows CD.
Windows upgrades have always worked on bare hard drives by inserting a CD (or floppy) for the product you are upgrading from, no need to have it actually installed.
I can tell you never did the Windows 95 upgrade. It does not boot. It does not install from DOS. It does require Windows 3.X which requires DOS. After that to get on the web, required installing a browser such as IE seprately. After my 3rd system rebuild, I swore off upgrades on upgrades and opted for fresh installs only.
I have a very can do attitude when it comes to Vista. As in, I can do without Vista.
I have learned from my past mistakes what the upgrade treadmill problems are.
I was running DOS. On top of that I installed Windows 3.1. On top of that I installed the Windows 95 Upgrade (the one without IE included) and installed IE as a seprate program. This process took several years and went through several hardware upgrades such as memory, hard drive, and later motherboard and CPU. Each re-instalation was a major pain. I learned quickly never to do upgrade upon upgrade again. It just takes too long. Windows 98 was a replacement, not an upgrade on top.
What I learned is the upgrade is nice IF the upgrade is a replacement, not an upgrade that requires a prior qualifying product to be already installed.
In a nutshell. If the upgrade is a stand alone fresh install, that if fine. Doing an install and then doing an install, and then doing an install... Forget it. You will regret it on your first hard drive replacement.
So.. To properly answer the question.. I need to know what kind of upgrade we are talking about. Does it do a fresh install, or does it require the prior qualified (auth per WGA perhaps) version installed? I would hate to do the recovery from a dead hard drive to include install, configure networking for phone home, patch, WGA auth, install service packs, upgrade, re auth with WGA, install applications such as MS office, re auth with WGA, etc.
To repeat the question, Will the upgrade install on a bare new hare drive or does it need a pre-qualified install of the prior version? Using the Genuine Windows sticker number is not a problem. Doing an endless install on install is a problem.
People entering the US on valid visas have few options but to submit their laptop or face denial of entry and possible revocation of their visa and denial of pending applications.
I wonder what they do with laptops with no configured e-mail client? I've gone completely to web based e-mail. When I clear my cache, history, and cookies, then compress my drive, there is little evidence left of e-mail.
"Sir, we're going to have to confiscate this laptop computer, our highly trained canine has detected the presence of a banned and extremely dangerous substance!"
Probably secure encryption. Check the US Export controls restricted technology list. Some of my software titles are not for export due to the technology they contain.
It's laughable. US encryption is a restricted export. The non-US encryption from Isreal isn't too bad.
noticed that, below the sticker that read "this CD does not conform to CD Audio specifications and may not play in all CD players" there was a Sony BMG logo.
SONY or not, I boycott non-CD's. As much as I like Wierd AL, the DRM is boycotted on this one. SONY is just a bonus reason to not buy it.
Get a system to be a domain controller.
Do not overlook the fact XP pro can join a Domain and XP home can not. Much more that a domain controller will be needed if the machines are XP Home.
Yes. Laughing at the weird customs of foreigners brings us together as a human family.
What I miss is the magician. In the USA, the bigger and flashier the better. In Japan the smaller close-up but seemingly impossible magic is what I found interesting. Anyone else amazed at the glass trick where a salt shaker is passed up through a glass top table? How about tossing a playing card inside a fishtank, then reaching through the tank back glass to fetch the card? Another street magic trick is the one where he tapes a piece of paper onto a shop front window, then goes inside the shop, then comes out by tearing a hole through the paper and climbing through, then removing the paper showing an intact glass window. Wow. That leaves a lot of the US flashy magic tricks looking pretty pale.
I'm going to miss the magic shows.
By the way, anybody know how he did that?
The vendor making all the money in the PC business is still...
The ink industry has been good to them. It's a PC product isn't it? They also make some printers, but the real money is in the ink.
I hate to get stuck on the upgrade treadmill, as you might notice...
Upgrade only if you have a compelling reason. If it works fine on your dial up connection for reading Slashdot, then there is no reason to upgrade. However if you want to play trackmania while talking on Skype on a broadband connection, then you might want to look into an upgrade.
I just re-read your comment. It's the CF not SD card that is write protected. Please disregard my parent post.
My daughter had an online class. The class required IE, Flash, JS, and other holes in security counter to my web browsing guidelines. To prevent it becoming a melted down bot, I pointed it's network setting for DNS to localhost instead my residential gateway. (I know, I just broke the web) I then manualy put just the 7 required sites in the hosts file with correct URL addresses. The end result was the school sites worked and nothing else did. The online course worked like a charm without getting owned. The cavot is the machine could not be used for both homework and web browsing.
It also wouldn't let me format it. I used my mp3 player to format the card, but Windows still says it's write-protected.
SD cards have a dum dum switch on the side of the card. It didn't get bumped into the lock position by any chance? That little switch on the side of the card will cause all your symptoms as it prevents all writes including a format.
Write back and let us know if it was the dum dum switch.
The goal of the forthcoming Joint Economic Committee study is to help lawmakers understand the issues involved and head off any premature attempt to impose a tax on virtual economies,
How the heck would the government spend a few Neopoints from Neopets?
Maybe the game sites need to be sure the point system in the game is properly listed as having a cash value much like coupons did for a while. Remember when states wanted to charge a sales tax on cents off coupons? The coupons started having a cash value of 0.005 cents each in the USA. You would need to have 200 of them to have a cash value of a penny.
It would take a lot of coupons to have a taxable value of interest to the IRS. Expired coupons have no cash value.
are only sustainable because component makers such as Intel choose to prop up the business
Intel is in the chip business. They are in the chip business to make money. Other than getting a contract to sell Apple some chips, where is this prop up business thing? I do not have any knowledge of Intel using a bunch of Mac's on the desktop.
I have a feeling Intel may have many more Dell PC's than Apple PC's in their operations.