Now feeling a bit smug about my move back to AMD. Pure dumb luck that it doesn't get Spectred of course, but this is just one reason I like Zen more than Core arch.
Pros: A much more sensible application packaging model than Windows or Linux, resulting in fewer conflicts and other surprises
I was startled to see how long it took to auto-install the High Sierra upgrade on a Macbook Air, an hour or so. What the heck was it doing? All this time just staring at me stupidly, an unusable brick. On Linux I am normally working (or the server is serving) all the way through an upgrade, typically don't even reboot when done.
I understand that the Macbook air I use for connectivity to a corporate customer, recently upgraded to High Sierra, took it upon itself to shut down overnight for no reason whatsoever. Not something that ever happens to my (numerous) Linux machines. My experience with Apple, such as it is, is that nothing they make is ever fully reliable. To varying extents of course, but this is consistently my experience.
Let's not even get into "it just works, provided you are willing to work exactly the way Apple wants you to work."
a tablet is not an acceptable replacement for a desktop, or,even a laptop...
With a bluetooth mouse and keyboard it comes close, however Google wants you to use your tablet for media and ad consumption, not general purpose computing, so they devote approximately zero effort to providing a usable windowing interface. And they sit like a pig on the project governance, so real users with real needs don't get to fill in that hole either. The gadget-style interface just doesn't cut it when you have real work to do.
I tried to get a couple of mac minis upgraded, replacing the HDD drive with a 256GB SSD. I was quoted at $1000 just for the drive . This doesn't even include the labour for taking the thing apart!
If I were to purchase a brand new Mac Mini, an upgrade to SSD is still $240.
You can get a complete Intel NUC including SSD for the price of Apple's SSD, why keep abusing yourself? And AMD 2700U based minis will land any time now.
People are still using Android 4.x tablets for example, which are NOT getting patched, and have multiple, much worse, known exploits out there.
Me for one, I just can't bear to retire my original Xoom with media dock. It never leaves the local network and doesn't get random apps installed on it now, so security isn't a concern. But apps that don't run on it is a problem. At least, the store still runs. The latest Firefox, chrome and Youtube don't run any more. But Opera does and plays Youtube just fine, keeping this super solid tablet alive as a mobile browser and media screen. Does not go on the road any more. Sigh. This smacks of planned obsolescence. Eventually I will play with third party firmware on it, nothing to lose.
I replaced my perfectly reliable Intel part with a bug ridden AMD part and I couldn't be more happy. Because the early production chip flaw was fixed by RMA and the lockups were tracked down to buggy acpi that could be circumvented. Bugs gone, but the spectacular power performance, cost performance and blessed quietness still remain.
Why wait? I am waiting because if is to pay a lot then I'll pick up something that has Threadripper performance for multitasking and also has more gaming performance than my current config, and maybe Zen+ or Zen2 will fulfill that goal.
You don't pay a lot for Ryzen right now, a 1700 costs $290 and a decent AM4 board runs around $90. That gets you into a highly respectable box that no doubt makes your current one look old and feeble, including in game performance. Your box is five years old, right? Has half the cores and one quarter the threads of Ryzen? You will be moving from DDR3 1333 to DDR4 2400 or better. Seems like a no-brainer.
To get into Threadripper you triple the cost at least, and you get a best on the block enthusiast machine, if that is what you are into. Threadripper is the only game in town at that level. I will go there when Zen+ comes out, any day now. I am instantly addicted to the dead silent Ryzen power performance with ordinary fans and I want more of that with the 12nm update. Zen2... believe it when you see it. I would not put off any upgrade plans in the hopes that 7nm is going to come online smoothly.
Also waiting for Zen+ to see it they will deliver enough performance to justify a change from my current CPU.
Why wait? Posting from a Ryzen 1700 with 32GB. This is a budget build that arguably out-muscles high end Intel workstations. It's not just the multi-core performance that rocks, but energy sipping power performance. And single threading performance is far from shabby. Intel can't match this for the money, and maybe can't match it even if money isn't a factor.
Next step up for me will be the Threadripper refresh. Not a budget proposition but the value is there, and currently is the performance king. Budget motherboards are not a thing in this segment, and that is kind of nice. I almost went Threadripper this build, but in the end, cheap won me over.
Python falls down because efficiency is not a first class member of the project culture, and because significant whitespace is idiotic. It is also incredibly stupid that it should have its own parallel set of libraries and package manager, so that implementation language is far from transparent to the user. Python, now at the height of its popularity, is doomed to be overtaken by more sensible projects like Go.
Heard the preview. I've heard worse, but that isn't saying much. Competently written, more than competently performed. Inspired? No. Cohesive? No. As tidily organized and precise in detail as any technical text he has published. Worth sitting through? Don't entirely know yet because the composition is not released, but at this point it seems safe to say, that would be more out of respect for the person who wrote it than the enjoyment of a masterpiece. On other fronts, I will be more than happy to attempt to wade through as much of the new AOCP as I can possibly manage, when available. I hope it does become available, at least, more so than the 6th volume of Ice and Fire.
Google made the same mistake with the Pixel. From where I sit, indistinguishable from Apple envy. Note the guy on the stage dressed head to toe in Steve Jobs black.
The problem to solve is why vendors, including Google's own Nexus devices
Indeed. My response: just stop buying phones. I used to get a new one every couple of years when I felt the vendors were actually on my side. Now, amazing how well an older phone works for me. If I do buy a phone, I will get a low spec one, obviously not from Google. My money goes into more satisfying products now, like Ryzen, and soon, Threadripper, which costs about as much as a flagship phone and does a lot more for me.
Please point to gas chambers. Your childish statement dishonors those who fought them, those who died, and trivializes the real seriousness of Nazism. Please grow up.
What kind of person are you, who minimizes the seriousness of newnazism getting a new foothold in America? You dishonor all mammals.
I'm the kind of person who's been to Dachau, and seen where real atrocities occurred. There is no comparison, but you can't be bothered with facts.
You misguided idiot. American neonazis are in essence the same people who perpetrated the holocaust. Just watch any video of Stephen Miller if you don't get it.
No. The tax cuts are going away. It's a REPUBLICAN tax plan. They are the ones who drafted it in secret and rammed it thru. YOUR tax cuts are going away. TRUMP's tax cuts are in place forever. Anything else you are thinking is "alternate facts".
And certain people are going to jail, hopefully including Trump and his spawn.
Bingo! Detected a Russian shitmod. Go to hell, Ivan.
When Trump Jr and his worthless-and-by-that-time-bankrupt father are cooling their heels in Riker's, come back and read this if you have somehow avoided gulag that is.
Trump will indeed go down in the history books: 1) worst president in the history of the USA 2) first president to be removed from office in handcuffs.
You Ivans never give up, must suck to be you.
See, each time you go trolling again through these old threads, it shows once again that there really are slithering creatures trolling the social networks with a pro-Russia agenda. No real person would do that. Each downmod is a new proof point of your agenda, as if we needed any more proof. Punishment coming, and I'm more than happy to be part of it.
Please point to gas chambers. Your childish statement dishonors those who fought them, those who died, and trivializes the real seriousness of Nazism. Please grow up.
What kind of person are you, who minimizes the seriousness of newnazism getting a new foothold in America? You dishonor all mammals.
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Now feeling a bit smug about my move back to AMD. Pure dumb luck that it doesn't get Spectred of course, but this is just one reason I like Zen more than Core arch.
Don't forget, Steve Jobs was responsible for the world's ugliest yacht And that hubcab of an office! Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Pros: A much more sensible application packaging model than Windows or Linux, resulting in fewer conflicts and other surprises
I was startled to see how long it took to auto-install the High Sierra upgrade on a Macbook Air, an hour or so. What the heck was it doing? All this time just staring at me stupidly, an unusable brick. On Linux I am normally working (or the server is serving) all the way through an upgrade, typically don't even reboot when done.
I understand that the Macbook air I use for connectivity to a corporate customer, recently upgraded to High Sierra, took it upon itself to shut down overnight for no reason whatsoever. Not something that ever happens to my (numerous) Linux machines. My experience with Apple, such as it is, is that nothing they make is ever fully reliable. To varying extents of course, but this is consistently my experience.
Let's not even get into "it just works, provided you are willing to work exactly the way Apple wants you to work."
a tablet is not an acceptable replacement for a desktop, or,even a laptop...
With a bluetooth mouse and keyboard it comes close, however Google wants you to use your tablet for media and ad consumption, not general purpose computing, so they devote approximately zero effort to providing a usable windowing interface. And they sit like a pig on the project governance, so real users with real needs don't get to fill in that hole either. The gadget-style interface just doesn't cut it when you have real work to do.
Went to Apple Store and the replacement batteries are so popular that they're backordered by two weeks. Have to go in again once mine arrives.
There being a limited supply of Apple diehards, this is clearly bad news for Apple's next quarter.
I tried to get a couple of mac minis upgraded, replacing the HDD drive with a 256GB SSD. I was quoted at $1000 just for the drive . This doesn't even include the labour for taking the thing apart!
If I were to purchase a brand new Mac Mini, an upgrade to SSD is still $240.
You can get a complete Intel NUC including SSD for the price of Apple's SSD, why keep abusing yourself? And AMD 2700U based minis will land any time now.
to survive Intel has had to cut memory prices by a factor of 360,000 !!! Don't know how they can make any money at those prices.
They lose a little bit on every one and make it up in volume.
People are still using Android 4.x tablets for example, which are NOT getting patched, and have multiple, much worse, known exploits out there.
Me for one, I just can't bear to retire my original Xoom with media dock. It never leaves the local network and doesn't get random apps installed on it now, so security isn't a concern. But apps that don't run on it is a problem. At least, the store still runs. The latest Firefox, chrome and Youtube don't run any more. But Opera does and plays Youtube just fine, keeping this super solid tablet alive as a mobile browser and media screen. Does not go on the road any more. Sigh. This smacks of planned obsolescence. Eventually I will play with third party firmware on it, nothing to lose.
I replaced my perfectly reliable Intel part with a bug ridden AMD part and I couldn't be more happy. Because the early production chip flaw was fixed by RMA and the lockups were tracked down to buggy acpi that could be circumvented. Bugs gone, but the spectacular power performance, cost performance and blessed quietness still remain.
Because Samsung is making cheaper, more power efficient parts and operating on a slimmer profit margin.
Why wait? I am waiting because if is to pay a lot then I'll pick up something that has Threadripper performance for multitasking and also has more gaming performance than my current config, and maybe Zen+ or Zen2 will fulfill that goal.
You don't pay a lot for Ryzen right now, a 1700 costs $290 and a decent AM4 board runs around $90. That gets you into a highly respectable box that no doubt makes your current one look old and feeble, including in game performance. Your box is five years old, right? Has half the cores and one quarter the threads of Ryzen? You will be moving from DDR3 1333 to DDR4 2400 or better. Seems like a no-brainer.
To get into Threadripper you triple the cost at least, and you get a best on the block enthusiast machine, if that is what you are into. Threadripper is the only game in town at that level. I will go there when Zen+ comes out, any day now. I am instantly addicted to the dead silent Ryzen power performance with ordinary fans and I want more of that with the 12nm update. Zen2... believe it when you see it. I would not put off any upgrade plans in the hopes that 7nm is going to come online smoothly.
I have seen nothing but game bugs, graphics corruption, instability and unoptimised drivers from ATI/AMD GPUs.
Hello, wizened story teller. Neolithic age called and wants you back.
Also waiting for Zen+ to see it they will deliver enough performance to justify a change from my current CPU.
Why wait? Posting from a Ryzen 1700 with 32GB. This is a budget build that arguably out-muscles high end Intel workstations. It's not just the multi-core performance that rocks, but energy sipping power performance. And single threading performance is far from shabby. Intel can't match this for the money, and maybe can't match it even if money isn't a factor.
Next step up for me will be the Threadripper refresh. Not a budget proposition but the value is there, and currently is the performance king. Budget motherboards are not a thing in this segment, and that is kind of nice. I almost went Threadripper this build, but in the end, cheap won me over.
AMD seems to have done it right with the latest designs, they're available now, and their performance is competitive...
Ryzen is a beast, and runs so cool. Bye Intel.
Python falls down because efficiency is not a first class member of the project culture, and because significant whitespace is idiotic. It is also incredibly stupid that it should have its own parallel set of libraries and package manager, so that implementation language is far from transparent to the user. Python, now at the height of its popularity, is doomed to be overtaken by more sensible projects like Go.
OK, don't tease me, just tell me. S as in "Sucks" ?
Just how many Knuth stories does Slashdot need?
As many as there are.
Heard the preview. I've heard worse, but that isn't saying much. Competently written, more than competently performed. Inspired? No. Cohesive? No. As tidily organized and precise in detail as any technical text he has published. Worth sitting through? Don't entirely know yet because the composition is not released, but at this point it seems safe to say, that would be more out of respect for the person who wrote it than the enjoyment of a masterpiece. On other fronts, I will be more than happy to attempt to wade through as much of the new AOCP as I can possibly manage, when available. I hope it does become available, at least, more so than the 6th volume of Ice and Fire.
Google made the same mistake with the Pixel. From where I sit, indistinguishable from Apple envy. Note the guy on the stage dressed head to toe in Steve Jobs black.
The problem to solve is why vendors, including Google's own Nexus devices
Indeed. My response: just stop buying phones. I used to get a new one every couple of years when I felt the vendors were actually on my side. Now, amazing how well an older phone works for me. If I do buy a phone, I will get a low spec one, obviously not from Google. My money goes into more satisfying products now, like Ryzen, and soon, Threadripper, which costs about as much as a flagship phone and does a lot more for me.
You doubt wrong.
Please point to gas chambers. Your childish statement dishonors those who fought them, those who died, and trivializes the real seriousness of Nazism. Please grow up.
What kind of person are you, who minimizes the seriousness of newnazism getting a new foothold in America? You dishonor all mammals.
I'm the kind of person who's been to Dachau, and seen where real atrocities occurred. There is no comparison, but you can't be bothered with facts.
You misguided idiot. American neonazis are in essence the same people who perpetrated the holocaust. Just watch any video of Stephen Miller if you don't get it.
No. The tax cuts are going away. It's a REPUBLICAN tax plan. They are the ones who drafted it in secret and rammed it thru. YOUR tax cuts are going away. TRUMP's tax cuts are in place forever. Anything else you are thinking is "alternate facts".
And certain people are going to jail, hopefully including Trump and his spawn.
Bingo! Detected a Russian shitmod. Go to hell, Ivan.
When Trump Jr and his worthless-and-by-that-time-bankrupt father are cooling their heels in Riker's, come back and read this if you have somehow avoided gulag that is.
Trump will indeed go down in the history books: 1) worst president in the history of the USA 2) first president to be removed from office in handcuffs.
You Ivans never give up, must suck to be you.
See, each time you go trolling again through these old threads, it shows once again that there really are slithering creatures trolling the social networks with a pro-Russia agenda. No real person would do that. Each downmod is a new proof point of your agenda, as if we needed any more proof. Punishment coming, and I'm more than happy to be part of it.
Please point to gas chambers. Your childish statement dishonors those who fought them, those who died, and trivializes the real seriousness of Nazism. Please grow up.
What kind of person are you, who minimizes the seriousness of newnazism getting a new foothold in America? You dishonor all mammals.