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Apple Might Discontinue the iPhone X This Summer (bgr.com)
BGR shares a startling prediction from Ming-Chi Kuo, the Apple analyst at KGI securities:
Kuo -- who we should note has an exemplary track record with respect to iPhone rumors -- adds that Apple may opt to discontinue the current iPhone X entirely if sales are underwhelming. "KGI also expects a trio of iPhone models in the fall of 2018," AppleInsider notes. "He predicts the iPhone X will be 'end of life' in the summer of 2018, instead of being retained as a lower-cost option in the following year." If Kuo's projection pans out, this would represent a marked shift in Apple's iPhone sales strategy. Going back nearly a decade, Apple has always positioned older iPhone models around as a wallet-friendly alternative for users who weren't keen on paying a premium for Apple's latest and greatest.
Apple has always positioned older iPhone models around as a wallet-friendly alternative for users who weren't keen on paying a premium for Apple's latest and greatest.
So, we're not all iDiots.
"Quick, buy one while it's available, after the deadline there will be NO MORE IPHONES EVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!"
VERY misleading title.
apple never admits they are wrong.
It works if and only if the way you want to use it the same is as apple says you should use it. Anything else doesn't work.
If you own apple stock, I'd be selling it.
As long as they keep the SE in the current form factor. The SE is basically the only iPhone that has good price/value ratio. I had the philosophy of getting my wifes old iPhone when she gets the latest model every two years. Last one she got was a 7 and, as such I got her old 6. Never again. These phones are so thin, I basically let it slip all the time, and within two weeks I let it fall, shatter the screen and TouchId was ruined too. Third party repair was so-so, and a half functioning phone sucks. So, I ponied up for the cheapest SE, getting back the 5 form factor. I couldn’t be happier. First time in over 10 years, I actually paid for a new phone.
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It's just an environmental nightmare. Phone hardware per se can last 10+ years, WHY do we have to buy the new shiny model again every 12 months? And what happens to the rest?
Apple being "environmentally friendly" is just a huge joke. They don't even pretend to greenwash anymore.
and considering this iphone X debacle I think I will stick with off-brand android phones, so far my samsung is doing okay, but i am not sure i want to continue blowing hundreds of bucks every couple of years just for a phone i only use for phone calls and txt msgs, hopefully china will flood the market with decent phones that sell for under a hundred that are comparable to samsung galaxy S# models
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I am loving my iPhone 8 I purchased in December. That is really the best iPhone out right now!
It's not surprising. The iPhone X is a terrible phone, and Apple has been caught trying to trick people into upgrading.
Face ID is a failed experiment. It manages to combine barely working with being insecure as hell: you have to hold the phone at very specific angles to get it to see your face, meaning that casually unlocking the phone is a chore. But it will also unlock using a simple folded photograph if held correctly, making it trivial for adversaries to unlock. Face ID needs to go away.
The removal of the home button is disastrous, if only because Apple already delegated a ton of functionality to it that now has to be redistributed across the rest of the phone. The home button used to perform different functions based on if you tapped it, or clicked it, or double-clicked it, or double-tapped it, or triple-clicked it. But now they've removed that button entirely and replaced it with ..... nothing. So now the power button has to take over for functions like accessing Apple Pay and Siri. Meaning that as simple a thing as turning off the phone now involves secret button combinations. (It's click volume up, click volume down, then hold the power button, in that order. I kid you not. Hold the power button briefly to bring up the power controls, longer to forcibly reboot.)
The new "home space" as the bottom means that a ton of apps now have UI that is right next to it, making triggering it incredibly annoying. Of course, "legacy" apps that aren't "optimized for iPhone X" have giant black bars on the top and bottom, meaning that the apps that place controls on top of the "home space" are in theory "optimized for iPhone X" but developers don't seem to have figured out how to deal with a giant dead area at the bottom of the screen.
And then there's the notch, transforming a somewhat nice looking display into a horned ugly mess. You'd think this being an Apple decision the status bar wouldn't have been an after-thought, but quite a few pieces of information are flat-out missing on the iPhone X because there flat-out isn't space. Don't believe me? Swipe up the control center and .... no, wait, it's now swipe down the control center, but only from the right horn, because the left horn handles the old "swipe down" gesture. Anyway, swipe down the control center, which will display the "old" iPhone status bar, and look at all the icons that used to be hidden. "Minor" things like bluetooth status and battery level, for those bluetooth headphones you now have to use because there is no headphone jack.
So, anyway, I'm not surprised. The iPhone X is a disaster even if you ignore the price.
"Apple" and "wallet friendly" in the same sentence simply does not compute. Really not. And I've got an MB Air myself.
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If the X is discontinued, that likely means that Apple has a on screen fingerprint recognition system, which is what they originally wanted for the X, IIRC. Maybe they keep the face recognition, maybe they don't. But I think it will be a new name to differentiate from any bad press the face recognition has gotten.
Apple takes risks to innovate. Apple customers sometimes choose to participate in those risks. It is not a catastrophe that sometimes some products are not as popular as Apple might hope, or do not meet customer needs. What that typically means is that Apple users are not hampered with bloated software that needs to support ancient technology. One problem that exists right now is that apple has so many different IOS products, given that a new one is made every year, that is significantly different, that we end up with buggy software. One thing that Apple is bad at, unlike MS, is supported a large number of devices at once.
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Your comment:
"The iPhone works well and thereâ(TM)s ecosystems built up that work. People donâ(TM)t want the form factor to change. Even the iPhone 7 headphone removal is still causing holdouts in upgrades from 6s users."
Can I assume your post is from your iPhone? (TM)
BGR, an Android boy-Army? LOL - BGR is about the biggest Apple enthusiast out there!
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
While there are plenty of people that hate Apple and the iPhone X (I prefer touch id and no notch myself), this isn't about the X as a concept being discontinued. Apple is just considering not selling the $1000 phone as the lower cost option, once the replacement models come out. Usually they will take the current flagship model and offer a cheaper lower memory version as the budget device when a new replacement is offered.
They could put a version of the 8 as the lower cost option, or the 8 itself if there's no replacement for it. There's also rumor of an SE coming out.
The replacements for the X are still slated to have FaceID (a possibly updated version) and a notch (though maybe smaller).
I would prefer to have a TouchID option on newer phones, and hopeful that Apple keeps that as an option as it seems FaceID is here for the long run.
I think buyers have more sense then to justify paying a grand or more for a iPhone X. Especially since the reports of Apple having to throttle old iPhone's and other questions about iPhone reliability and quality. I know myself, could never justify spending that much on any smartphone.
In other words, Apple introduced a major step change in its model line in 2017 with the X and when it introduces the next version of the X in 2018 it may not keep the previous version on sale as it has done for some less extensive model changes in the past.
Conclusion: Apple is DOOOOOOOOMED!
A case study in why just because you can doesn't mean you should.
The phrase that X haters are looking for is, âoenothing of value was lost.â
The thing is, as an X owner and a longtime Apple watcher, I can tell you exactly how this will play out â" because this isnâ(TM)t the first time Apple has revised their plans when the customer base failed to see the value in a product line. One other relatively recent example is the Mac Pro â" aka, the âoetrash can.â Yeah... it was pretty universally hated for a lot of reasons, and Apple has acknowledged that itâ(TM)s on the chopping block. Weâ(TM)re still waiting to see the outcome of that one.
But the outcome of the X might be a bit easier to predict. The X probably will be the only device of its specific design... but it wonâ(TM)t be the end of the line for most of the features that it introduced. Itâ(TM)s a way station; an intermediate experimental design, which will be revised incrementally.
And even though that means my X is going to be a rarity, thatâ(TM)s okay.
I wish they would discontinue all their cell phones.
"Smart" phones have turned people into antisocial idiots, antisocial in that they have forgot how to properly interact with people in their immediate physical surroundings as the people on the other side or the app they are in have taken their attention.
Sorry for the rant, but I just had an encounter with an idiot in the grocery store and I am still pissed. Not that it does not happen every day though.
"We mustn't be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology" -- Aldous Huxley
Yes. Now tell slashdot to get their shitty comment engine updates past 1997 standards.
I switched from a Galaxy S7 to the Iphone X. I'm a happy customer. It's great phone, period. After all of the investments that Apple has made to build the X, there is Zero chance that Apple would return to it's old, tired design. None.
Plenty of people want the iphone x, based on youtube comments. However, very few are willing to pay the exorbitant price ($1,000+). And that notch on the top of the screen is pretty ugly too.
I can attest to that. My 180EUR phone is an 8-core, 3GB RAM, 64GB internal storage, pretty much vanilla Android 7 (updates provided), 4500mAh 3-days-on-one-charge-with-permanent-wifi-on battery, *actual* IP-68 ruggedness beast, that can connect to my wifi from down the street, survives being thrown against walls and put through entire washing machine cycles, has an outstanding build quality, does 2 SIM *plus* an SD card, is completely unbrickable (yes, including wrecking the bootloader so it won't turn on ... you can upload new firmware anyway), has replacement batteries available on e-bay, and a complete disassembly and reassembly video on YouTube, *posted by the manufacturer*. Also it looks awesome, and not like a boring featureless slab/blade.
You literally get screwdrivers with he thing!
And this was two generations ago! :)
And it is just one of *many* many manufacturers and choices.
Your perfect pick *will* be among them, as sure as there will be porn of a thing.
Since we are talking about Apple, you might want to call it slashdot's 'IBM' engine*.
(* Mac zealots from ye olden times referred to any system that ran Windows or MS-DOS as 'IBM' and continued to do so long after IBM had abandoned the PC-DOS market. The Mac zealot army has always seen a need to face a single, large, monolithic target as their opponent, even though they really are up against all of 'the rest of us' on our open platforms)
They're making it a collector's item. Clever.
I miss the "But Photoshop runs faster" argument from the PowerPC/Motorola days.
I personally don't see the revolutionary feature or features that would make an iPhone Xbox desirable enough to spend computer prices on. The face ID thing is neat but it's not really new. Also, one rattionale for buying better computer hardware up front is it'll last longer. With Apple, the promise seems to be it'll be obsolete sooner because they'll slow it down. (Yes I know battery issues, but then can't they make them easier to change out if they're concerned?) I like Apple well enough, I've had iPhones before, but I am failing to see the appeal now... Everything the iPhone X does can be found in a competitors for cheaper. It's not like they hold a design victory still either.
Virtue-signal much?
Only it doesn't seem like signaling ignorance is much of a virtue. Unlike you, I've owned both Android and iPhones so I can see what both sides are like.
The iPhone X is exactly the opposite of a "debacle". It is by far the largest improvement in using a phone I have had, since the original iPhone first came out. FaceID is the future and I am not buying another mobile device (laptop, phone or tablet) that does not support FaceID (not facial recognition: 3D face authentication) - between that and the replacement of front buttons with gestures it is that much of a leap in UX improvement over even the best touch sensors. The OLED screen is like a distant second in comparison and is actually a mixed bag compared to a great LCD. It is amazing to think this is only the first version to FaceID, think of how the first touch sensors were - FaceID is so much more reliable than they were.
The thought that Apple would cancel the iPhone X is laughable; the only thing to wonder about is when does the rest of the line will get FaceID and join us in the future.
Those of you who do not have one, may find this hyperbolic... but someday you will understand.
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They sell it for more than double what it costs to make. Lower the profit margins and more people will buy it.
Personally, I miss the PPC days. CHRP/PPRP was a damned good platform. (The PowerMac line was technically, if only marginally, CHRP-compliant until the G3 came out. It was never PPRP compliant, which was a platform update that covered the PPC750, a.k.a. "G3", series and later. Apple made too many customizations to PowerMac G3's and later for them to be PPRP.) Too bad it never saw any support because everyone was too busy rimming Intel.
Once upon a time, I had an install disc of Windows NT 4.0 Workstation for PowerPC (CHRP, but not PPRP), Alpha, MIPS, and Intel x86. Yes, all on one CD (not DVD!). The system install footprint was in the low hundreds of MB range, and the running system memory footprint was in the low tens of MB range. I got it running on an old PPC604 system, one of the PowerComputing "Mac clones". It wasn't very useful, since there was basically no software for it.
Continuing that style of development would have made the "One Windows" thing MS has been pushing these past few years a nearly unstoppable juggernaut. It also would've given UWP a damned good reason to exist. As it is, UWP is mediocre for desktop apps, good enough for tablet-only apps, pretty decent for "ded" W10M apps, and good for XBO apps, but XBO is a gaming system and UWP can't really be used for games (at least not ones that actually use the XBO hardware well). But if UWP was made to easily cross-build for x86, ARM, PPC, Alpha, MIPS, and Sparc targets, as well as multiple layouts and interface types (CLI + GUI-kb/m + GUI-touch + GUI-controller all in one), that would be a fantastic boon to developers. And it would basically solve the "there's no software for Windows on non-x86" problem.
Too bad there was a two decade gap in between. We could've had nice things. Now we just have a lot of reasons we can't have nice things.
I think AppleInsider is where the most smarmy Apple fans hang out. They have a cadre mentality and a well formed routine for identifying, isolating and removing non-Apple zealots from their forum.
Cool story, bro.
for one of the newer Samsungs is they often have the latest Radio tech, so you might (might) get better signal out of it. If you're on T-Mobile they're going to be the only way to hop on the new bandwidth they bought in that big auction for a while. Them and LG, and both phones will be in the $700 range. Other than that anything in the $220 range has virtually all the performance save for 3D gaming and less than 1/2 the price.
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the iPhoneX was trying to solve. Namely that having an iPhone isn't a big deal anymore. The X was suppose to restore the iPhone to being a premium product you could show off your wealth with. Like expensive clothing, headphones and cars.
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Or even the summary.
The iPhone X might be deprecated as a low cost option. That means it wonâ(TM)t be around next year for cheap. Instead, the iPhone 8 will be the cheap option and the three new phones will effectively be 3 different updated iPhone X models.
There will still be Face ID on the new phones. They will still not have home buttons.
If you were hoping to get an X from Apple $200 cheaper next year, this might be disappointing to you, but it doesnâ(TM)t mean much else.
Um, what happened to 8 and 9? 7 was released just last year and I have hear nothing about the release of an iPhone 10.
What? This is the epitome of the "fake news" crowd. Here something they don't like, nope that's not true, let me list some features apple might be working on to help deflect.
Not realizing that the source are Apple fanboys themselves. Lul. Please stop being so loyal to companies. It's not a good look.
I thought whole room wireless charging was debunked on slashdot? The tech isn't there and it's still a long ways off.
Definitely. The real hard core apple rednecks hang out there.
They are the wealthiest and one of the most powerful companies on earth, not the plucky underdog to Microsoftâ(TM)s big brother...
itâ(TM)s like being a die hard Exxon fan... I really donâ(TM)t get the insane level of loyalty Apple gets, Itâ(TM)s creepy.
Posted from my iPhone of course
That was quick. Maybe go back to feature-complete phones like the 5 and 6... The X had several problems, including exorbitant price, even for Apple, and also it lacked a really important feature in an audio device: an AUDIO OUTPUT JACK. Kind of important, actually; I won't buy one lacking that. Ever.
You folks can pile on all you want. The iphone X is easily the best smartphone Iâ(TM)ve ever owned. And yes Iâ(TM)ve have android phones too. I am not Apple fanboy either. I think ther laptops and desktop are grossly overpriced and not worthy of the competition.
I just picked up a Huawei Mate 9 that was being sold overstock for $249 unlocked. Great 5.9" screen, blazing fast 8-cores and 4GB ram, zero lag, three days on a charge, dual-lens rear camera setup with very decent raw files, dual-sim, SD card slot, built like a tank, Gorilla Glass 3, and desperately thin and light at the same time.
There just isn't enough difference between "last year's overstock" and "the latest and greatest" any longer to justify paying 4x as much. When the first iPhone was launched everyone laughed at $499 for a phone, but it was the only game in town doing what it was doing. But now, Apple is trying to get people to pay twice that much for phones that are at best 5-15% better than its competitors who are priced at a fraction of the cost.
The actual apps are all the same for the most part, and for most use cases. It's all a bunch of third-party SaaS and e-commerce. The only difference is imperceptible screen differences (That one has more PPI than the human eye can detect and this other one has two times again as many pixels! Wooo?) and imperceptible processor differences (That one starts Chrome in 0.8 seconds and this other one in 0.7 seconds! Wooo?)
They're going to have to price more in line with the market or come out with something that is "revolutionary" once again (actually is, not just claims to be) if they're going to drive sales at the levels they want.
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SE iPhone is Best iPhone
Anybody who has a Windows NT 3.51 install CD-ROM has the installer for Power PC, MIPS, Alpha, and the Intel x86 processor. Because it's a multi-platform CD-ROM. My NT 3.51 CD is a Compaq OEM version, and even it supports all the platforms NT was ported to at the time.
I have used it to install Windows NT on an IBM PreP box, as well as an Alpha box. I am one of the very few who has run Windows on Power PC. It was very underwhelming, because there's zero third party software. I am pretty sure there isn't even a commonly available compiler for Windows NT/PPC so you can roll your own software.