So, done once before for the purpose of waterproofing. Now, done by LG for the purpose of having good audio quality (which the Kyocera did not) while saving front panel space. Why is that not genuine innovation?
My problem with this card is there's no DXR acceleration or DLSS. I want both, mostly because I do actual ray tracing.
Then you've been had by NVidia's hype. RTX is completely useless for actual ray tracing as opposed to the bag of cheap tricks they actually do for real time gaming, which involves shooting roughly three rays per pixel and trying to fake it from there. Usually only one bounce as well. So many unacceptable artifacts are apparent with anything more than a cursory look. Notice that anything reflected off a curved surface looks like it's been worked over with a ball peen hammer. I'm pretty sure the window reflections are being faked too, just so you don't immediately notice how broken up the actual raytraced reflections are. This isn't actual raytracing, it's a normal polygon render pass then they post process the scene by tracing a few rays off each reflective pixel and run it through some really weird and AI filtering to try to smooth with neighbour reflective pixels.
If you are doing actual ray tracing then you will do it with the usual GPU path, not with the RTX hardware, and it will be offline. If you tried to use RTX rendered frames in a video you would get laughed at.
Is it still written in Java instead of native C/C++?
It never was written in Java, even in part. It had a bogus dependency on Java added by Sun as part of the db interface which was one of the first things to be fixed when LibreOffice was forked away from Oracle.
Then you will be overjoyed to know that the Radeon VII draws roughly the same power as the RTX 2080. Further, it is likely to underclock very well, dropping into a sweeter spot of the 7nm power curve. At which point it will be not only a very powerful card, but a cool and quiet one too. Whereas in stock configuration, this reference card is known to be about twice as noisy as a typical 2080. That would be my only serious issue, and for that reason I will wait for the OEM cards to land, which they surely will because AMD has, by accident or design, left room for OEMs to differentiate with superior cooling solutions.
I guess this GPU is going to be a solid seller after the dust settles. It's already a hit in the Linux world. AMD will probably be selling as many as they can make for quite some time.
That is considering it purely as a gaming card. But with twice the memory, and 50% faster memory than the RTX 2080 it's not just a gaming card. And 16MB gives it a lot of longevity, maybe an uncomfortable fact for Nvidia, who prefers its products to go obsolete as quickly as possible.
I suspect the reason the VII was released is, AMD got a good price on HBM2 from Hynix. Well below the price touted int recent Fudzilla article which is the same as the price they quoted in May 2017. There is no way that HBM2 prices didn't come down in the intervening 20 months.
What are you talking about. Radeon VII is now widely understood to be roughly similar to GTX 1080 for games, if not faster especially at 4K. While being cheaper and twice the memory, which future-proofs it. Plus 50% higher internal memory bandwidth. Games crave these things.
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It's never Apple, according to Apple.
So, done once before for the purpose of waterproofing. Now, done by LG for the purpose of having good audio quality (which the Kyocera did not) while saving front panel space. Why is that not genuine innovation?
Sure beats round corners :)
Who did it before?
Genuine innovation. Why can't Apple with all its riches and self described innovative genius, come with anything the least bit interesting?
while this is an impressive demonstration worthy of praise, it is not any sort of record
I don't really give a crap whether it's a record or not, the point is to lose the current dependence on Russia.
Sounds like the land of Mordor. I can imagine fire and the smell of brimstone everywhere, and the big eye peering into all.
Apple has never tried to chase market share at any cost
Right, they seem more inclined to chase away market share with high prices.
Everybody knowledgeable agrees that relativity is peculiar.
Time and space are relative because velocity is finite. Velocity is finite because time and space are relative. It's beautiful.
FLOPS isn't a benchmark any more than clock speed is. You need to hand in your geek card.
High temperature singlet-based magnetism from Hund’s rule correlations
Not paywalled. Thank you very much, Nature.
Drivel. Nobody except you thinks 2070 can touch Radeon 7.
2070: 6.4 TFLOPS
2080: 8.9 TFLOPS
Radeon 7: 11.1 TFLOPS (non-boost)
Reddit has comment editing and it works fine. At least, comment editing should be supported for a short time after submit, this is the 21st century.
My problem with this card is there's no DXR acceleration or DLSS. I want both, mostly because I do actual ray tracing.
Then you've been had by NVidia's hype. RTX is completely useless for actual ray tracing as opposed to the bag of cheap tricks they actually do for real time gaming, which involves shooting roughly three rays per pixel and trying to fake it from there. Usually only one bounce as well. So many unacceptable artifacts are apparent with anything more than a cursory look. Notice that anything reflected off a curved surface looks like it's been worked over with a ball peen hammer. I'm pretty sure the window reflections are being faked too, just so you don't immediately notice how broken up the actual raytraced reflections are. This isn't actual raytracing, it's a normal polygon render pass then they post process the scene by tracing a few rays off each reflective pixel and run it through some really weird and AI filtering to try to smooth with neighbour reflective pixels.
If you are doing actual ray tracing then you will do it with the usual GPU path, not with the RTX hardware, and it will be offline. If you tried to use RTX rendered frames in a video you would get laughed at.
They look about the same, but you could be looking at an easy 20-30% difference between the card draws without the rest of the system.
No you won't, the GPU dominates the system power draw by far. Equivalent power performance is confirmed by multiple reviewers, not just this one.
Is it still written in Java instead of native C/C++?
It never was written in Java, even in part. It had a bogus dependency on Java added by Sun as part of the db interface which was one of the first things to be fixed when LibreOffice was forked away from Oracle.
small firms often do business with big firms, and any digital paperwork that gets passed around will almost certainly be in MS Office format
Funny, I find it's almost always PDFs these days.
Bleah! Roughly similar to RTX 2080. Slashdot really need to implement a comment edit feature.
Eh, roughly similar to GTX 2080. But with twice the memory and lower MSRP.
Then you will be overjoyed to know that the Radeon VII draws roughly the same power as the RTX 2080. Further, it is likely to underclock very well, dropping into a sweeter spot of the 7nm power curve. At which point it will be not only a very powerful card, but a cool and quiet one too. Whereas in stock configuration, this reference card is known to be about twice as noisy as a typical 2080. That would be my only serious issue, and for that reason I will wait for the OEM cards to land, which they surely will because AMD has, by accident or design, left room for OEMs to differentiate with superior cooling solutions.
I guess this GPU is going to be a solid seller after the dust settles. It's already a hit in the Linux world. AMD will probably be selling as many as they can make for quite some time.
That is considering it purely as a gaming card. But with twice the memory, and 50% faster memory than the RTX 2080 it's not just a gaming card. And 16MB gives it a lot of longevity, maybe an uncomfortable fact for Nvidia, who prefers its products to go obsolete as quickly as possible.
It is power inefficient
Only if you also call the RTX 2080 power inefficient, because they draw about the same power
over 500 watts
The Radeon VII draws approximately the same power as the RTX 2080, what are you blathering about?
Idiot.
I suspect the reason the VII was released is, AMD got a good price on HBM2 from Hynix. Well below the price touted int recent Fudzilla article which is the same as the price they quoted in May 2017. There is no way that HBM2 prices didn't come down in the intervening 20 months.
The 2070 is not comparable to the Radeon VII. Compare to 2080.
What are you talking about. Radeon VII is now widely understood to be roughly similar to GTX 1080 for games, if not faster especially at 4K. While being cheaper and twice the memory, which future-proofs it. Plus 50% higher internal memory bandwidth. Games crave these things.