They will be fine and I will have one when they are an order of magnitude more power efficient, are one quarter the volume, and have batteries with twice the power density.
Each part sold by an ARM licensee is royalty income for ARM and a lost sales prospect for Intel
Except for the 99% of ARM sales that are in markets where Intel doesn't sell a competing product.
Intel doesn't sell a competitive product, you mean. Intel certainly tried to break into the mobile market with Atom but was largely defeated by ARM. Looks like competing from where I sit.
ARM and Intel do not compete directly. At least not financially.
In what way do they not compete financially? Each part sold by an ARM licensee is royalty income for ARM and a lost sales prospect for Intel. And ARM clearly competes directly with Intel in engineering.
Java isn't supposed to be able to get out of its sandbox without permission, yet it's the source of many vulnerabilities. Why would we trust Rust to be any safer?
Maybe because Graydon Hoare designed it, the same guy who did Monotone, the ancestor of Git. Something about the Sun/Gosling attitude to systems design, seems like a lot of lather and little substance.
Einstein ignored quantum mechanics in the sense he left it out of GR as he could't reconcile the two. He later put forward theories for QM but never was able to update GR with them.
General physics is more or less solved. It makes sense.
Is this a troll? OK, if not, then explain to me why there are three generations of leptons, not two or four or some other number. Why do the elementary particles have the particular masses they do? What causes quark confinement? Why does velocity have a limit, and why does the limit have the value it does? Why do any of the fundamental physical constants have the values they do? What about these problems? Should we expect answers in a year of two?
There was a very good op-ed from the Usenet days which pointed out that an assembly programmer will always beat a high-level-language programmer on most performance metrics...
Dozens of posts so far and all missing the central point: in terms of determining popularity, tiobe's methodology is junk. People search when they have questions. Sure, more people have questions if more people are using a given language, but this is trumped by obscurity and steep learning curve. Really, there is little in the technology world more obscure or harder to master than machine level coding. If a language is well structured then you just go straight to the web resources, the many excellent C++ sites for example. When nothing makes sense and you don't know where to start, you ask the search engine. Therefore poorly documented and really hard to use languages tend to look excessively "popular" to tiobe. Nonsense.
Now, what really worries me... those people searching for answers about assembly language... they have no idea what they are in for, and what a hazard they are going to be if they actually try to apply the superficial level of knowledge you get from web answers to writing assembly level code of any complexity.
The RX 480 with less transistors, less clock speed, less performance for most things uses the same power as the GTX 1070, and I am asking why? I guess only insiders would really know why, but my one guess was some sort of issue with the 14nm process, hence my question.
Given that AMD's recent fix mainly lowered the operating voltage, it would seem that the parts were running over-volted, perhaps a conservative strategy adopted for yield reasons on the relatively new process node. So, indirectly it would be an issue with the process, the same as any new process: the yield curve. Otherwise, Samsung has been shipping the 14nm Snapdragon 820 in the S7 for some time, it seems the process node is pretty solid. There is some chatter out there that there is room to optimize the 14nm finfet design, so we can look forward to a refresh to further close the gap with Intel's process, which still has a slight advantage.
Anyway, we're discussing a few percent this way or that, which hardly changes the main equation: it's hard to argue about the RX 480 price point.
Actually, here's another theory: they were running the reference cards over-volted to be conservative, given that the yield ramp on the new process node likely created a shortage of parts that run reliably at lower voltage. Now, with a little more time to establish the safe operating limits, they sent out their update to reduce the operating voltage. Whatever, it's a niggle, the big news about this part is the price.
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I still ping yahoo.com when I want to test my dns.
These always struck me as a fad waiting to die
They will be fine and I will have one when they are an order of magnitude more power efficient, are one quarter the volume, and have batteries with twice the power density.
In my working closely with ARM, I honestly think that ARM Holdings does not view Intel as a competitor in most of their markets...
If that is true then they are naive, and it is a good thing for all of us that they will now be managed by an organization with more business sense.
In your wildest imagining, do you honestly think that Intel does not view ARM Holdings as a competitor?
Each part sold by an ARM licensee is royalty income for ARM and a lost sales prospect for Intel
Except for the 99% of ARM sales that are in markets where Intel doesn't sell a competing product.
Intel doesn't sell a competitive product, you mean. Intel certainly tried to break into the mobile market with Atom but was largely defeated by ARM. Looks like competing from where I sit.
ARM and Intel do not compete directly. At least not financially.
In what way do they not compete financially? Each part sold by an ARM licensee is royalty income for ARM and a lost sales prospect for Intel. And ARM clearly competes directly with Intel in engineering.
Company I've never heard of...
Says more about you than Softbank.
Yay.
Of course you are aware that legally a corporation is a person?
You come across as a bit on the psycho stalker side yourself.
Java isn't supposed to be able to get out of its sandbox without permission, yet it's the source of many vulnerabilities. Why would we trust Rust to be any safer?
Maybe because Graydon Hoare designed it, the same guy who did Monotone, the ancestor of Git. Something about the Sun/Gosling attitude to systems design, seems like a lot of lather and little substance.
A company doesn't have a right to civil disobedience.
[citation needed]
"Us" being the herd of luddites who did not learn object oriented programming in school and are too special to bother learning it now.
Wow, luddites are out in force with mod points.
...they first cause comment syntax to twist their panties into a bunch.
Huh, I thought it was tabs vs spaces first, comment formatting second.
80 character lines.
"Us" being the herd of luddites who did not learn object oriented programming in school and are too special to bother learning it now.
Don't give them ideas.
Einstein ignored quantum mechanics in the sense he left it out of GR as he could't reconcile the two. He later put forward theories for QM but never was able to update GR with them.
Not because he didn't try.
General relativity is very different than particle physics. That's why Einstein chose to ignore it.
OK, you are a troll or just ignorant. Einstein is one of the great contributors to quantum mechanics and received a Nobel prize for it.
General physics is more or less solved. It makes sense.
Is this a troll? OK, if not, then explain to me why there are three generations of leptons, not two or four or some other number. Why do the elementary particles have the particular masses they do? What causes quark confinement? Why does velocity have a limit, and why does the limit have the value it does? Why do any of the fundamental physical constants have the values they do? What about these problems? Should we expect answers in a year of two?
There was a very good op-ed from the Usenet days which pointed out that an assembly programmer will always beat a high-level-language programmer on most performance metrics...
Dozens of posts so far and all missing the central point: in terms of determining popularity, tiobe's methodology is junk. People search when they have questions. Sure, more people have questions if more people are using a given language, but this is trumped by obscurity and steep learning curve. Really, there is little in the technology world more obscure or harder to master than machine level coding. If a language is well structured then you just go straight to the web resources, the many excellent C++ sites for example. When nothing makes sense and you don't know where to start, you ask the search engine. Therefore poorly documented and really hard to use languages tend to look excessively "popular" to tiobe. Nonsense.
Now, what really worries me... those people searching for answers about assembly language... they have no idea what they are in for, and what a hazard they are going to be if they actually try to apply the superficial level of knowledge you get from web answers to writing assembly level code of any complexity.
The RX 480 with less transistors, less clock speed, less performance for most things uses the same power as the GTX 1070, and I am asking why? I guess only insiders would really know why, but my one guess was some sort of issue with the 14nm process, hence my question.
Given that AMD's recent fix mainly lowered the operating voltage, it would seem that the parts were running over-volted, perhaps a conservative strategy adopted for yield reasons on the relatively new process node. So, indirectly it would be an issue with the process, the same as any new process: the yield curve. Otherwise, Samsung has been shipping the 14nm Snapdragon 820 in the S7 for some time, it seems the process node is pretty solid. There is some chatter out there that there is room to optimize the 14nm finfet design, so we can look forward to a refresh to further close the gap with Intel's process, which still has a slight advantage.
Anyway, we're discussing a few percent this way or that, which hardly changes the main equation: it's hard to argue about the RX 480 price point.
WTF is Intel Vulkan? Is it anything like Vulkan?
It's the driver implementation of the Vulkan API for Intel chipsets. (Odd that this would need to be explained.)
And Radeon is the brand, not the company. The company is AMD.
Radeon in this context is the name of the open source driver for AMD's chipsets.
Oh, but wait! He started a Linux distro!
Not just any distro, but Debian. So you're right, beatification is the way to go.
from the now-inevitable buyout by Microsoft
Source?
His nether orifice.
Actually, here's another theory: they were running the reference cards over-volted to be conservative, given that the yield ramp on the new process node likely created a shortage of parts that run reliably at lower voltage. Now, with a little more time to establish the safe operating limits, they sent out their update to reduce the operating voltage. Whatever, it's a niggle, the big news about this part is the price.