I blame Windows for the whole antivirus idiotic ecology. See, that's life in Windows land. I know it's hard to comprehend for someone with no experience of something better, but I never need to deal with such stupidity myself with Linux.
And waking up in the middle of the night for a virus nag is just plain bonkers, however you look at it. Only on Windows.
I wish I had a "LIKE" button on this post. I wholeheartedly agree that the Nexus 7 tablet is awesome. I have the new 32gb model and it puts the iPad to shame.
I have a Xoom and an Nexus 7. I leave them lying around the house and my kid is always using one or the other of them. The Xoom gets used a lot because of its back facing camera, just the thing for making kiddy videos. (No, they don't get uploaded to Youtube, that will be a foggy day in hell.) The Nexus gets used a lot for various other reasons. On the whole, the Nexus will be grabbed in preference to the Xoom, perhaps because of the kid-friendly size, but I would call them both "widly popular". My mother has an iPad which basically got used as a full time Bookworm[tm] platform for a couple of months and now sits gathering dust because she gravitated back to her considerably more functional PC. Not apples-to-oranges by any means, but it seems somehow indicative.
Pffft... with that, Apple could barely construct and equip a nuclear aircraft carrier!
Oh yeah, you're right, and after their troll legal abuse strategy fails that's exactly what Apple will need to stop Android. Tim better start saving up.
If people are willing to use an ugly keyboard add-on with their iPad
iPad keyboard addons are not ugly, and I'm an Apple hater. iPad with a keyboard case is physically quite usable. iOS is a different story though, it's more a matter of working around it than working with it for keyboard centric tasks. Android also has its flaws in that regard, but I'll wager they get addressed first in Android. Just because of the massive takeup, including a look of geek hackers who know what they're doing.
Desktop Android would steal 30% of the market for new laptop installations from MS within just a few years.
Totally with you on that. Basically, all they need to do is implement "KDE for touchscreens" and call it Android. It's the Google brand that sells it, much more so than the wizzy-or-not dumbed down UI of the week.
You can bet the farm that because of this all major online retailers have already started work to change their registration and ordering systems to implement a clickthrough rather than ticking a checkbox that says 'I agree'.
Yes, piling idiocy on top of idiocy and making the Web a yet more unpleasant place to go about your business. The real problem is the idiodic culture of forcing web users to sign away their firstborn or whatever other terms suit the fancy of the online operator, in order to use their service. Do I have to sign a terms of service to buy groceries at a grocery store? No? Then what is this idiocy about needing to sign agreements in order to transact simple business on the web? Are the courts too lazy to start ruling on what is and is not fair, as has been the tradition for several hundred years of common law? (Rhetorical question of course.) Instead, the courts seem determined to make life as unpleasant as possible for average citizens, and they seize on this new internet thing as a marvelous new tool for achieving that. I say it's time to start replacing judges.
OK, I've done it. The majority of what's listed is articles asking the question "Is the iPad Mini Too Expensive" in their titles, and mostly concluding that no, as an Apple product it can probably do alright at that price. As Apple competes on quality, not cheapness.
Wow, you really have issues, don't you? Do you understand the concept of "the whole truth, and nothing but the truth"? Read the comments to the articles. Here, I'll do it for you. Very first comment to very first article:
Maria 7 days ago I read that it was going to be offered at $259 and I was seriously considering getting it, but not anymore. That is 3 tablets they will not sell.
Other comments to this and other articles are overwhelmingly similar. And that leaves you as the outlier, a belly crawling Apple astroturfer, sucks to be you.
Can't be absolutely sure, but it is the consensus, as witnessed by AAPL getting a 3 1/4% haircut that day.
Buy on the rumour, sell on the news. It's perfectly usual for AAPL to go up before an announcement and then fall on the day. It happens more often than not.
That's actually a bald faced lie that you're hoping nobody will check. Example: iPad 3 announced on March 7. AAPL continued to rise until Apr 5 when it turned south.
OK, it's ad hominem time. You really earned this. Look, there is no honesty in you or integrity. You are just an Apple apologist. Pretty much every word you say can be discounted that way. If you bothered to check your facts you might get some respect. As it is, you just make Apple look bad. Which is fine by me.
If you want more data on it, google "ipad mini too expensive" and you will find plenty of folks announcing their decision to go Android.
Anecdotes are not data. A few fandroids posting their perpetual Apple hatred means nothing.
Go ahead, do my search. I guarantee that you will find plenty of posters who own Apple devices and are buying Google this time. I hope it doesn't make your head explode. And I guarantee that Apple's "phenomenal growth" has hit a roadblock called Android. All but the most glazed eyed iCultists can see that. For further enrichment, learn the story of once omnipotent Microsoft and its phenomenal growth.
By the way, it's amazing how Apple groupies keep coming back to this aging post. It's like... obsession or something. You're not worried are you?
Result: iPad Mini preorder stock sold out in a couple of days, despite people supposedly "not buying and going Android".
Preorders are the new nightclub lineups. The club may well be empty, but there's still a long line outside because the club desperately needs to make it appear it's a really popular place. Wait for the quarterlies, my friend, Apple execs are required to sign those in blood. iPhone 5 had a nice initial bump which in fact came in well below the hype infused expectations. So much for that magical rocket booter that was supposed to take Apple to $1,000. iPad got clobbered, other product lines are weak. Apple's brand is well and truly tarnished by its sue the world strategy. Christmas is coming, the economy is still weak and Apple just priced itself out from under the Christmas tree. Next quarter will be interesting.
I'm not sure we're *quite* ready to know yet that the iPad mini's pricing is too high and that the product is consequently a failure.
Can't be absolutely sure, but it is the consensus, as witnessed by AAPL getting a 3 1/4% haircut that day. If you want more data on it, google "ipad mini too expensive" and you will find plenty of folks announcing their decision to go Android. Overpriced and underspecced, what was Tim Cook thinking?
Let me mention just one of the myriad of little madnesses that drove me batty while using Windows... it likes to come out of suspend in the middle of the night to nag you about upgrading its 3rd party antivirus bloatware.
And yeah, I found Windows to be a perfectly horrible experience for the week or so before I nuked it with a Kubuntu install. Now perfectly happy. Kubuntu is basically just better than Windows, true.
in Ubuntu 12.04 I had to find a hack to re-enable Hibernation because Canonical disables it by default in 12.04
I got a new computer with Windows on it. Hibernation was disabled, with no obvious way to re-enable short of registry hacks etc. In Ubuntu it was disabled in the menu but is still available via a simple command line interface... which crashed horribly. So I would guess that Ivy Bridge hibernate simply isn't there yet, not on Ubuntu and not on Windows. Canonical is right to disable it by default.
BTW, on Linux there is a pure software hibernate solution that works pretty well, I haven't tried it on this machine though. I'm perfectly happy that suspend works reliably, all the more so because this Ivy Bridge chipset was pretty much brand new when I put Ubuntu on it.
I bet you Apple will be down to 300 in 6 months to a year.
I would take your bet, not because I have any confidence in Apple governance (quite the contrary) but because it takes a while for the air to leak out of an operation that big. Just look at Microsoft. Or even Nokia, pre-Elop.
13.68 P/E... I wouldn't write them off just yet, the holiday season could do interesting things to the stock.
Yes, like maybe put a lot of Nexus Sevens and Nexus Fours under the Christmas tree. I know this is certainly the case amongst the folks I know, and these are not geeks. The geeks, they aren't waiting for Christmas.
Maybe he is not a micromanaging control freak and let/trusted a department head to make decisions to a degree. If your boss says "I'm not so sure" and you reply with "Trust me" there are some bosses that will let you have your way. However if things go poorly there may be consequences.
Give me a break. Tim Cook didn't know what price the iPad mini would be introduced at, and didn't understand how stupid that was? Didn't know that doing something about the fixed resolution problem is a top priority? Wasn't involved in the decision to drop Google maps? If he didn't, as you seem to be suggesting, then he certainly deserves to be fired. How many more failures does he need to preside over to prove his point?
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I blame Windows for the whole antivirus idiotic ecology. See, that's life in Windows land. I know it's hard to comprehend for someone with no experience of something better, but I never need to deal with such stupidity myself with Linux.
And waking up in the middle of the night for a virus nag is just plain bonkers, however you look at it. Only on Windows.
Google really screwed up with the naming of their devices.
Oh no way. I think my living room really needs a Nexus 80.
All you're saying is, there's a market for industrial Android tablets.
I wish I had a "LIKE" button on this post. I wholeheartedly agree that the Nexus 7 tablet is awesome. I have the new 32gb model and it puts the iPad to shame.
I have a Xoom and an Nexus 7. I leave them lying around the house and my kid is always using one or the other of them. The Xoom gets used a lot because of its back facing camera, just the thing for making kiddy videos. (No, they don't get uploaded to Youtube, that will be a foggy day in hell.) The Nexus gets used a lot for various other reasons. On the whole, the Nexus will be grabbed in preference to the Xoom, perhaps because of the kid-friendly size, but I would call them both "widly popular". My mother has an iPad which basically got used as a full time Bookworm[tm] platform for a couple of months and now sits gathering dust because she gravitated back to her considerably more functional PC. Not apples-to-oranges by any means, but it seems somehow indicative.
Pffft... with that, Apple could barely construct and equip a nuclear aircraft carrier!
Oh yeah, you're right, and after their troll legal abuse strategy fails that's exactly what Apple will need to stop Android. Tim better start saving up.
If people are willing to use an ugly keyboard add-on with their iPad
iPad keyboard addons are not ugly, and I'm an Apple hater. iPad with a keyboard case is physically quite usable. iOS is a different story though, it's more a matter of working around it than working with it for keyboard centric tasks. Android also has its flaws in that regard, but I'll wager they get addressed first in Android. Just because of the massive takeup, including a look of geek hackers who know what they're doing.
Desktop Android would steal 30% of the market for new laptop installations from MS within just a few years.
Totally with you on that. Basically, all they need to do is implement "KDE for touchscreens" and call it Android. It's the Google brand that sells it, much more so than the wizzy-or-not dumbed down UI of the week.
Especially if you can build at a profit something the contractor is willing to sell at a loss. That's a great market.
Isuppli says the Nexus 7 is sold at a modest profit. Not sure what your point is.
The more you tighten your grip, the more users will slip through your fingers...
Isn't it amazing just how predictive B movie screenwriting tends to be?
And touchscreens Linus, touchscreens.
What is it about laptops that means it is ok to leave them in the stone age in terms of usability? Oh... Microsoft.
You can bet the farm that because of this all major online retailers have already started work to change their registration and ordering systems to implement a clickthrough rather than ticking a checkbox that says 'I agree'.
Yes, piling idiocy on top of idiocy and making the Web a yet more unpleasant place to go about your business. The real problem is the idiodic culture of forcing web users to sign away their firstborn or whatever other terms suit the fancy of the online operator, in order to use their service. Do I have to sign a terms of service to buy groceries at a grocery store? No? Then what is this idiocy about needing to sign agreements in order to transact simple business on the web? Are the courts too lazy to start ruling on what is and is not fair, as has been the tradition for several hundred years of common law? (Rhetorical question of course.) Instead, the courts seem determined to make life as unpleasant as possible for average citizens, and they seize on this new internet thing as a marvelous new tool for achieving that. I say it's time to start replacing judges.
Go ahead, do my search.
OK, I've done it. The majority of what's listed is articles asking the question "Is the iPad Mini Too Expensive" in their titles, and mostly concluding that no, as an Apple product it can probably do alright at that price. As Apple competes on quality, not cheapness.
Wow, you really have issues, don't you? Do you understand the concept of "the whole truth, and nothing but the truth"? Read the comments to the articles. Here, I'll do it for you. Very first comment to very first article:
Maria 7 days ago
I read that it was going to be offered at $259 and I was seriously considering getting it, but not anymore. That is 3 tablets they will not sell.
Other comments to this and other articles are overwhelmingly similar. And that leaves you as the outlier, a belly crawling Apple astroturfer, sucks to be you.
Can't be absolutely sure, but it is the consensus, as witnessed by AAPL getting a 3 1/4% haircut that day.
Buy on the rumour, sell on the news. It's perfectly usual for AAPL to go up before an announcement and then fall on the day. It happens more often than not.
That's actually a bald faced lie that you're hoping nobody will check. Example: iPad 3 announced on March 7. AAPL continued to rise until Apr 5 when it turned south.
OK, it's ad hominem time. You really earned this. Look, there is no honesty in you or integrity. You are just an Apple apologist. Pretty much every word you say can be discounted that way. If you bothered to check your facts you might get some respect. As it is, you just make Apple look bad. Which is fine by me.
If you want more data on it, google "ipad mini too expensive" and you will find plenty of folks announcing their decision to go Android.
Anecdotes are not data. A few fandroids posting their perpetual Apple hatred means nothing.
Go ahead, do my search. I guarantee that you will find plenty of posters who own Apple devices and are buying Google this time. I hope it doesn't make your head explode. And I guarantee that Apple's "phenomenal growth" has hit a roadblock called Android. All but the most glazed eyed iCultists can see that. For further enrichment, learn the story of once omnipotent Microsoft and its phenomenal growth.
By the way, it's amazing how Apple groupies keep coming back to this aging post. It's like... obsession or something. You're not worried are you?
Non-removable battery put me off buying this device. I was on the verge. Good thing I checked.
No micro-sd slot is also a downer, but not a stopper.
Result: iPad Mini preorder stock sold out in a couple of days, despite people supposedly "not buying and going Android".
Preorders are the new nightclub lineups. The club may well be empty, but there's still a long line outside because the club desperately needs to make it appear it's a really popular place. Wait for the quarterlies, my friend, Apple execs are required to sign those in blood. iPhone 5 had a nice initial bump which in fact came in well below the hype infused expectations. So much for that magical rocket booter that was supposed to take Apple to $1,000. iPad got clobbered, other product lines are weak. Apple's brand is well and truly tarnished by its sue the world strategy. Christmas is coming, the economy is still weak and Apple just priced itself out from under the Christmas tree. Next quarter will be interesting.
Whoosh.
I'm not sure we're *quite* ready to know yet that the iPad mini's pricing is too high and that the product is consequently a failure.
Can't be absolutely sure, but it is the consensus, as witnessed by AAPL getting a 3 1/4% haircut that day. If you want more data on it, google "ipad mini too expensive" and you will find plenty of folks announcing their decision to go Android. Overpriced and underspecced, what was Tim Cook thinking?
AAPL has easily a couple more years of this growth rate.
Then spend all your money on AAPL, good luck with that. And welcome to the ass club.
Let me mention just one of the myriad of little madnesses that drove me batty while using Windows... it likes to come out of suspend in the middle of the night to nag you about upgrading its 3rd party antivirus bloatware.
And yeah, I found Windows to be a perfectly horrible experience for the week or so before I nuked it with a Kubuntu install. Now perfectly happy. Kubuntu is basically just better than Windows, true.
in Ubuntu 12.04 I had to find a hack to re-enable Hibernation because Canonical disables it by default in 12.04
I got a new computer with Windows on it. Hibernation was disabled, with no obvious way to re-enable short of registry hacks etc. In Ubuntu it was disabled in the menu but is still available via a simple command line interface... which crashed horribly. So I would guess that Ivy Bridge hibernate simply isn't there yet, not on Ubuntu and not on Windows. Canonical is right to disable it by default.
BTW, on Linux there is a pure software hibernate solution that works pretty well, I haven't tried it on this machine though. I'm perfectly happy that suspend works reliably, all the more so because this Ivy Bridge chipset was pretty much brand new when I put Ubuntu on it.
I bet you Apple will be down to 300 in 6 months to a year.
I would take your bet, not because I have any confidence in Apple governance (quite the contrary) but because it takes a while for the air to leak out of an operation that big. Just look at Microsoft. Or even Nokia, pre-Elop.
13.68 P/E... I wouldn't write them off just yet, the holiday season could do interesting things to the stock.
Yes, like maybe put a lot of Nexus Sevens and Nexus Fours under the Christmas tree. I know this is certainly the case amongst the folks I know, and these are not geeks. The geeks, they aren't waiting for Christmas.
Maybe he is not a micromanaging control freak and let/trusted a department head to make decisions to a degree. If your boss says "I'm not so sure" and you reply with "Trust me" there are some bosses that will let you have your way. However if things go poorly there may be consequences.
Give me a break. Tim Cook didn't know what price the iPad mini would be introduced at, and didn't understand how stupid that was? Didn't know that doing something about the fixed resolution problem is a top priority? Wasn't involved in the decision to drop Google maps? If he didn't, as you seem to be suggesting, then he certainly deserves to be fired. How many more failures does he need to preside over to prove his point?