Apples market share increased you fucking stupid dumbass.
Wow, you sound just like an Apple asshole. But the dumbass is you. In 2009 Apple's share of the smartphone market was 48%, today it is 17%. Thanks for playing.
There are so many things that make Linux less of a malware magnet than Windows. Just picking one off the top of the pile: don't attempt to hide URLs and file extensions. It's a lot harder to accidentally install and run a program in Linux. There is also a culture of security in Linux that tends to rub off on newbies. Somebody emails you a sob story that ends with wanting you to enter your email password on a web page? Thanks, but no thanks. Got email with links to click on? Don't, not before you verify that the link goes to where it pretends to go. Etc etc.
The problem is your free office program isn't 100% compatible with MS Office.
Nobody cares. LibreOffice is really sweet, and just like MS Office, it does way more than you really need. Gets better every release too, it's like Christmas twice a year.
Hmm, did I predict that Apple's share of the smartphone market would shrink, from as far out as six years ago? That makes me smart.
Now I'm predicting that Apple's share will shrink further. I will add the further prediction that Apple's issue with price resistance will become more serious, and cause a revenue decline by next year, in addition to losing more market share. Apple will probably increase it's app revenue, maybe even by enough to offset the revenue decline in handsets, but I wouldn't bet on that. Apple might manage to make gains in cloud services but that's a crap shoot too. From an investor's perspective Apple is looking decidely dodgy as of today.
There you go, save that one and confront me with it next year if I'm wrong. I'm not wrong.
Now there's some hyperbole for you. I'd be happy to take that "walking dead" off their hands (3.7M units).
Sony sold 2 million handsets and that is considered dead. I'd be happy to take that off their hands as well. Does not change the fact.
and the smartwatch market isn't meeting expectations
Who's expectations?
Apple's expectations. Apple has a big fat share price to feed and the small contribution from smartwatches is not anywhere close to enough. That market was expected to explode like the original iphone and it didn't.
I'd say that anyone in the chart is clearly a winner (as well as many who didn't make the chart), but who cares? If you've tied your self-worth to a particular brand's rise or fall, you need to break free from that.
The way Apple your fans stake out their fallback positions is really entertaining. Isn't there an Aesop's fable about that? Somebody about a fox and grapes...
I don't need for Samsung to fail to feel personally fulfilled, nor do I need Apple to succeed in the market for me to maintain some sense of self-worth. I'd advise you do similarly.
Apple's walled garden and its arrogance offend me, so sorry, not going to suddenly go all lovey dovey. Lose the arrogance and the walled garden then fine.
Metal was RELEASED nearly 2 YEARS before the Vulkan final SPEC was even announced. NOW who copied from whom?
Apple copied. Both Metal and Vulkan are derived AMD Mantle, as you know, but you're an asshole so you're trying to bluster your way past that. Afterwards, Apple leached off the Vulkan working group until they felt they were ready to pull off their Rambus-esque backstab. Apple is still leaching off the Vulkan working group today, which makes it especially funny when Autodesk kicks you in the teeth. May you lose many more teeth over that vile act of treachery.
And considering the Metal API is SIGNIFICANTLY different from the much harder to use Vulkan API
You lie again. Metal is vastly more similar to Vulkan than it is different, except for missing some key functionality like Geometry shaders and adding in adding in some memory management sugar that does not belong there, it should be a separate library in case somebody wants to implement their own memory management that suits their specific application better.
plus is more than twice as efficient
And you lie yet again. What an asshole.
I don't see how you can support a claim of "Freeloading"
Maybe because that is exactly what Apple did. And don't take it from me, everybody except you (aka asshole) thinks this. And you don't actually think it, you know what the truth is, but you are an asshole, so...
Apple is a "Promoter"-level member of the Kronos group.
So they can keep freeloading off the work of others.
if Apple is "Freeloading" from Kronos, then WTF are AMD, ARM, Google, Samsung, Qualcomm, Intel, NVidia, Sony and Valve (among SCORES of others) doing?
Supporting and improving the standard, unlike freeloader Apple. You know that, but you're too much of an asshole to admit it. Sucks to be you.
Now, do I think Apple should Open Source Metal 2?
Nobody wants it. Maybe, open source the memory management part of it as a library to be used with Vulkan. There isn't anything else of value in Metal that Vulkan doesn't already provide. Sure, open source the memory management as a library called "Metal" that sits on top of Vulkan. That would earn some karma. But trying to push Metal as a Vulkan alternative would just be a stupid disservice and Apple would get called on it.
with the lightweight MoltenVK translation-layer...
Which Valve had to force down Apple's throat because of Apple's bad acting, making Apple look like the petulant baby it actually is.
Apple looks really bad over this whole fiasco, and an asshole like you wading in and farting out talking points without any actual technical knowledge doesn't help. You're a salesman not a dev right? It shows. And you're a lying asshole.
Since you are having trouble understanding what could go wrong by trying to get more money out of each customer, let me spell it out for you: Apple did not add any differentialtion to its product, but raised the price anyway. How elastic is that price, really? Bad luck for Apple if the answer turns out to be "not very". Using myself as a data point, I dropped $400 on a new phone this cycle. If I had followed my normal practice of picking up a flagship phone it would have been $1000. But the phone I got is way better than the one it replaced and I just don't perceive any important difference between this and a flagship. I mean, what's the point? Even as a fashion accessory, a nice phone stopped being a status symbol some time ago and is just something everybody has. In fact there a kind of anti-status thing going on. Flashing the Apple logo around marks you as vain, status conscious, fiscally irresponsible, etc. It's a real thing.
Well. Apple will need to sell next year's model for $1200 to match this year's revenue increase, factoring in another 1% or so of market share decline. Think that will fly? I don't.
Samsung is not the sweetest kid on the block, I agree, but they are hardly the worst either. Cosy ties between government and chaebol has been a Korea thing since long before they got out from under their dictators. Impressive show of national spine that they tackled that one. Now its all hugs and kisses again. Koreans are justifiably proud of their Samsung. Compare to Apple who got nailed for blatant collusion over engineering hiring practices and has young workers jumping off the upper floors of their factory dorms.
Apple hasn't achieved market saturation until Windows is at 10% and macOS at 90%, and not until Android is at 7% and iOS is at 95%.
You live on a different planet than the rest of us. On the planet we live on, Apple's smartphone market share peaked in 2009 at 48% and has declined steadily ever since, to less than 17% today. There is no reason to suppose that that trend will stop. Maybe it will eventually stabilize around 5% like the MacOS share of the PC market.
AOL only did this much later in the 90's. Earlier on, no internet access, no AOL TCP/IP control panel.
I don't remember the exact dates, but I got an AOL account and used it purely for internet access just a year or two after the first mass distribution of AOL disks. You did not need to touch any control panel, you were in with nameservice etc right away on startup. Just ignore the popup window.
the real growth of Apple's business will be in services
Its rapidly shaping up as the only realistic avenue remaining. After all, can Apple realistically convince its diehard cultists to fork over $2000 of their retirement savings each upgrade instead of just $1000? IPad is shrinking, Macs are the walking dead, and the smartwatch market isn't meeting expectations. But there is only so much Apple can do with its walled garden services before users start walking and governments step in with well founded monopoly concerns. Basically, Apple will try to be the new AOL, but you know where that went.
So basically Huawei is also a Juggernaut is dead in the water and running on inertia
You wish. Huawei is still enjoying expontial growth driven by its value proposition at the low end. Should Apple worry? What happens to Apple's hopes for explosive growth in China?
Ya think? Another big winner is Android users, more value per dollar than ever. And the manufacturing ecosystem is doing great, including the ARM sector.
Realistically, AAPL is up only 2.5% vs same day last week. But if you think it's only going up and up, then by all means, mortgage your house and load up.
Why do you suppose that AAPL only only got a 2.5% bump when earnings went up almost 16%? Somebody smarter than you is a bit nervous.
I have always bought flagship phones in the past, but this cycle I bought a mid tier Motorola and it's awesome. It's plenty big, thin, lightweight, beautiful screen and camera, responsive, plenty of memory, not loaded with crapware, looks great. Exactly why do I need or want a flagship then?
The iPhone X was such a disaster that they were able to increase their phone margins and overall net income enough to lift their EPS and share price >3%. An unmitigated disaster that brought them closer to being the first trillion-dollar company in history.
Outsold by Huawei now. Nothing could possibly go wrong, right?
Nice summary of the Apple story. But you need to recognize Apple's dilemma: they painted themselves into a corner. Having reached market saturation and further numerical growth cut off by the Android hordes, Apple's now has to grow the price and the amount of aftermarket money it can squeeze out of each of its misty eye followers. Either that or invent something entirely new that everybody wants, but that isn't going to happen under the Tim Cook culture.
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Apples market share increased you fucking stupid dumbass.
Wow, you sound just like an Apple asshole. But the dumbass is you. In 2009 Apple's share of the smartphone market was 48%, today it is 17%. Thanks for playing.
There are so many things that make Linux less of a malware magnet than Windows. Just picking one off the top of the pile: don't attempt to hide URLs and file extensions. It's a lot harder to accidentally install and run a program in Linux. There is also a culture of security in Linux that tends to rub off on newbies. Somebody emails you a sob story that ends with wanting you to enter your email password on a web page? Thanks, but no thanks. Got email with links to click on? Don't, not before you verify that the link goes to where it pretends to go. Etc etc.
Rather ironic your sig is this when you think that all malware starts to look like a problem for Linux to solve.
My sig is about your thumb.
The problem is your free office program isn't 100% compatible with MS Office.
Nobody cares. LibreOffice is really sweet, and just like MS Office, it does way more than you really need. Gets better every release too, it's like Christmas twice a year.
Support costs for Linux tend to exceed those of Microsoft.
Lie detector triggered.
Hmm, did I predict that Apple's share of the smartphone market would shrink, from as far out as six years ago? That makes me smart.
Now I'm predicting that Apple's share will shrink further. I will add the further prediction that Apple's issue with price resistance will become more serious, and cause a revenue decline by next year, in addition to losing more market share. Apple will probably increase it's app revenue, maybe even by enough to offset the revenue decline in handsets, but I wouldn't bet on that. Apple might manage to make gains in cloud services but that's a crap shoot too. From an investor's perspective Apple is looking decidely dodgy as of today.
There you go, save that one and confront me with it next year if I'm wrong. I'm not wrong.
Macs are the walking dead
Now there's some hyperbole for you. I'd be happy to take that "walking dead" off their hands (3.7M units).
Sony sold 2 million handsets and that is considered dead. I'd be happy to take that off their hands as well. Does not change the fact.
and the smartwatch market isn't meeting expectations
Who's expectations?
Apple's expectations. Apple has a big fat share price to feed and the small contribution from smartwatches is not anywhere close to enough. That market was expected to explode like the original iphone and it didn't.
I'd say that anyone in the chart is clearly a winner (as well as many who didn't make the chart), but who cares? If you've tied your self-worth to a particular brand's rise or fall, you need to break free from that.
The way Apple your fans stake out their fallback positions is really entertaining. Isn't there an Aesop's fable about that? Somebody about a fox and grapes...
I don't need for Samsung to fail to feel personally fulfilled, nor do I need Apple to succeed in the market for me to maintain some sense of self-worth. I'd advise you do similarly.
Apple's walled garden and its arrogance offend me, so sorry, not going to suddenly go all lovey dovey. Lose the arrogance and the walled garden then fine.
Metal was RELEASED nearly 2 YEARS before the Vulkan final SPEC was even announced. NOW who copied from whom?
Apple copied. Both Metal and Vulkan are derived AMD Mantle, as you know, but you're an asshole so you're trying to bluster your way past that. Afterwards, Apple leached off the Vulkan working group until they felt they were ready to pull off their Rambus-esque backstab. Apple is still leaching off the Vulkan working group today, which makes it especially funny when Autodesk kicks you in the teeth. May you lose many more teeth over that vile act of treachery.
And considering the Metal API is SIGNIFICANTLY different from the much harder to use Vulkan API
You lie again. Metal is vastly more similar to Vulkan than it is different, except for missing some key functionality like Geometry shaders and adding in adding in some memory management sugar that does not belong there, it should be a separate library in case somebody wants to implement their own memory management that suits their specific application better.
plus is more than twice as efficient
And you lie yet again. What an asshole.
I don't see how you can support a claim of "Freeloading"
Maybe because that is exactly what Apple did. And don't take it from me, everybody except you (aka asshole) thinks this. And you don't actually think it, you know what the truth is, but you are an asshole, so...
Apple is a "Promoter"-level member of the Kronos group.
So they can keep freeloading off the work of others.
if Apple is "Freeloading" from Kronos, then WTF are AMD, ARM, Google, Samsung, Qualcomm, Intel, NVidia, Sony and Valve (among SCORES of others) doing?
Supporting and improving the standard, unlike freeloader Apple. You know that, but you're too much of an asshole to admit it. Sucks to be you.
Now, do I think Apple should Open Source Metal 2?
Nobody wants it. Maybe, open source the memory management part of it as a library to be used with Vulkan. There isn't anything else of value in Metal that Vulkan doesn't already provide. Sure, open source the memory management as a library called "Metal" that sits on top of Vulkan. That would earn some karma. But trying to push Metal as a Vulkan alternative would just be a stupid disservice and Apple would get called on it.
with the lightweight MoltenVK translation-layer...
Which Valve had to force down Apple's throat because of Apple's bad acting, making Apple look like the petulant baby it actually is.
Apple looks really bad over this whole fiasco, and an asshole like you wading in and farting out talking points without any actual technical knowledge doesn't help. You're a salesman not a dev right? It shows. And you're a lying asshole.
Since you are having trouble understanding what could go wrong by trying to get more money out of each customer, let me spell it out for you: Apple did not add any differentialtion to its product, but raised the price anyway. How elastic is that price, really? Bad luck for Apple if the answer turns out to be "not very". Using myself as a data point, I dropped $400 on a new phone this cycle. If I had followed my normal practice of picking up a flagship phone it would have been $1000. But the phone I got is way better than the one it replaced and I just don't perceive any important difference between this and a flagship. I mean, what's the point? Even as a fashion accessory, a nice phone stopped being a status symbol some time ago and is just something everybody has. In fact there a kind of anti-status thing going on. Flashing the Apple logo around marks you as vain, status conscious, fiscally irresponsible, etc. It's a real thing.
Well. Apple will need to sell next year's model for $1200 to match this year's revenue increase, factoring in another 1% or so of market share decline. Think that will fly? I don't.
Samsung is not the sweetest kid on the block, I agree, but they are hardly the worst either. Cosy ties between government and chaebol has been a Korea thing since long before they got out from under their dictators. Impressive show of national spine that they tackled that one. Now its all hugs and kisses again. Koreans are justifiably proud of their Samsung. Compare to Apple who got nailed for blatant collusion over engineering hiring practices and has young workers jumping off the upper floors of their factory dorms.
You've been posting Apple doom stuff since at least 2012.
Nice to hear from a fan!
Apple hasn't achieved market saturation until Windows is at 10% and macOS at 90%, and not until Android is at 7% and iOS is at 95%.
You live on a different planet than the rest of us. On the planet we live on, Apple's smartphone market share peaked in 2009 at 48% and has declined steadily ever since, to less than 17% today. There is no reason to suppose that that trend will stop. Maybe it will eventually stabilize around 5% like the MacOS share of the PC market.
AOL only did this much later in the 90's. Earlier on, no internet access, no AOL TCP/IP control panel.
I don't remember the exact dates, but I got an AOL account and used it purely for internet access just a year or two after the first mass distribution of AOL disks. You did not need to touch any control panel, you were in with nameservice etc right away on startup. Just ignore the popup window.
I'm in dire need of a new Mac Pro and a new MacBook Pro.
Why bother? Get a Linux box and a Pixelbook. More better.
the real growth of Apple's business will be in services
Its rapidly shaping up as the only realistic avenue remaining. After all, can Apple realistically convince its diehard cultists to fork over $2000 of their retirement savings each upgrade instead of just $1000? IPad is shrinking, Macs are the walking dead, and the smartwatch market isn't meeting expectations. But there is only so much Apple can do with its walled garden services before users start walking and governments step in with well founded monopoly concerns. Basically, Apple will try to be the new AOL, but you know where that went.
So basically Huawei is also a Juggernaut is dead in the water and running on inertia
You wish. Huawei is still enjoying expontial growth driven by its value proposition at the low end. Should Apple worry? What happens to Apple's hopes for explosive growth in China?
Google may be the real winner here.
Ya think? Another big winner is Android users, more value per dollar than ever. And the manufacturing ecosystem is doing great, including the ARM sector.
"Third" is what I had intended to say. Thanks for the correction.
Third place sounds like teh kinda suck, n'est ce pas?
The reason Apple dropped to second is because Huawei has been knocking it out of the park at Samsung’s expense.
Apple dropped to third, not second. Samsung did well to hold onto first place in the face of truly aggressive competition. And don't forget that Samsung makes a bunch of moulah every time Apple sells an iPhone.
In the meantime, AAPL is up and up and up.
Realistically, AAPL is up only 2.5% vs same day last week. But if you think it's only going up and up, then by all means, mortgage your house and load up.
Why do you suppose that AAPL only only got a 2.5% bump when earnings went up almost 16%? Somebody smarter than you is a bit nervous.
I have always bought flagship phones in the past, but this cycle I bought a mid tier Motorola and it's awesome. It's plenty big, thin, lightweight, beautiful screen and camera, responsive, plenty of memory, not loaded with crapware, looks great. Exactly why do I need or want a flagship then?
The iPhone X was such a disaster that they were able to increase their phone margins and overall net income enough to lift their EPS and share price >3%. An unmitigated disaster that brought them closer to being the first trillion-dollar company in history.
Outsold by Huawei now. Nothing could possibly go wrong, right?
Cook probably couldn't sink Apple even if he deliberately set out to do just that.
Watch what happens to Cook if the stock trends down.
Nice summary of the Apple story. But you need to recognize Apple's dilemma: they painted themselves into a corner. Having reached market saturation and further numerical growth cut off by the Android hordes, Apple's now has to grow the price and the amount of aftermarket money it can squeeze out of each of its misty eye followers. Either that or invent something entirely new that everybody wants, but that isn't going to happen under the Tim Cook culture.