AOL actually provided unfiltered access to the internet. You could just ignore the entire AOL portal if you wanted, which many people did, the only drawback being that AOL email address, which marked you as an AOLer. But at that time, nearly everybody used their ISP's domain for their email address, so not a huge issue. Everything was dial-up at that time so it was impractical to run your own server, though that started to be a thing amongst the cognoscenti just a few years later.
Amusing thinking about what kind of games the Nokos might approve for distribution. Pacman with ghosts that look like Great Leader? (But if you eat one you lose and go to jail for real.)
While the Android makers continue to lose money, selling less and less of their crappy phones, instead of staying flat. That's the wrong kind of winning
Why would an Apple asshole care what kind of winning the Android phone makers are doing? (Rhetorical question.)
Even if it were true that Android makers are losing money, which it isn't. High end Android phones have big fat margins just like Apple's products. Low end Android phones like the ones that are flooding India are certainly not loss leaders. The makers make them because it makes them make money, see? Even an Apple asshole like you should be able to see that. (BTW, if you don't want to be called an asshole then consider keeping that dumbass word to yourself.)
Then there is the fantastic amount of money that flows through the entire Android engineering, manufacturing and distribution ecosystem. And the Android app ecosystem, now far larger than Apple's walled garden. So many companies benefiting, so many employees taking home good salaries. The Android industry is actually a significant portion of the world economy now, regardless of how much it infuriates an Apple asshole.
As an alpha asshole, you are a great ambassador for Apple. And like a typical Apple camp follower you are a barefaced liar. Apple freeloaded on the Vulkan working group to build its own incompatible API, as any fool can see. Yes it was a plan, however idiotic. Doesn't change the slimy intent. Doesn't matter how a lying fucktard like you tries to spin it. Apple stays on the Vulkan working group to freeload on more of their great work. Just the kind of thing we have come to expect from Apple. Sweet that Autodesk rubbed your face in it, looking forward to more of that.
What an asshole. OK, tell us how many byte equivalents the human genome stores. Let's see your flacid mind attempt to go to work, this will be amusing. Safe to say, your mother didn't bequeath you anything between the ears other than compulsion to insult and scant talent for doing it.
Not that I can really think of any other way for AAPL to keep its share price flying high. But anybody who isn't high on Apple Kookaid can see where it goes.
Keyboard, Mouse, Cut n Paste, Multi Window. Classic desktop usability requirements with well known and familiar solutions These suck donkey balls on both Android and Chromebook.
Cut and paste... it's just maddening, that's the only word for it. Why do I need to hunt around for a paste option that is a menu option, different in every application if it even exists? Come on you guys, you know you hacked this thing together in a couple days back in the dim history of early Android. So spend a couple more weeks and fix it, ok?
Mouse does almost work except crappy. I'm not going to go into it, try it. While at it, try to cut and paste with the mouse. Compare to how it works in Windows or Linux.
Keyboard shortcuts... unmitigated disaster. Coordination between mouse and keyboard, even worse.
Multiwindow support, don't get me started. This is not rocket science.
Hey Google smart people: IF YOU SAY THAT CHROMEBOOK DOES NOT SUFFER FROM BAD USER EXPERIENCE THEN YOU ARE LYING AND YOU KNOW IT
Stop being idiots and fix these two arbitrary and stupid restrictions:
* Rotate to upside down. It never makes sense to forbid it, maybe have an option to disable for that one person who thinks it's a great feature to not be able to do it
* Rotate home screen on handset. Come on, there are a significant number of users who use their gigantic phones in landscape, not portrait. Maybe have an option to disable that for the one person who thinks its a great feature to be unable to do it.
Thanks guys, Remember, you are are smart people right? So act like it. I know I can get these by installing an app, but just don't be jerkoff micromanagers ignoring the wishes of users ok? At least, try to keep that down to a dull roar.
Window dragging support PogChamp. Oh it's tucked away in developer mode
Because Google management isn't yet sure they want android devices to be full computers. Control freak Google views that as possibly giving users a way to be less dependent on Google's services, maybe ultimately consuming less advertising or feeding back less telemetry. But on the other hand they know that many users want it, and those who want it tend to be thought leaders. And it's maybe a great way to bang another nail into the Microsoft coffin. So some powerpoint team at Google is conflicted. The solution is, implement it and put it out there for QA, but do not make it official until some PHB committee comes down the mountain with a grand vision.
Yes, it's stupid, and par for the course in network effect monopoly land.
I also have Windows for gaming, but as soon as Win7 goes out of service, gaming is the only thing I will be doing on Windows
I already have more AAA titles on Linux than I have time to play and a PS4 in case that somehow isn't enough. So this is a Windows-free zone, there is never a reason to run Windows here. It's also a great time to be a professional artist or musician on Linux. Sure, some tools are immature but some are awesome. I just discovered Liquidsynth and its galaxy of LADSPA plugins. And JACK. And Lillypond, mmmm nice. And there is Krita, best in class for digital painting, Blender, competitive with Maya for professional 3D modelling but thousands of dollars cheaper ($0.00) and Inkscape, already the best SVG editor and well on its way to being the best object drawing program. All for free, and all getting great new features every few months. It's like Christmas all the time. Now I'm getting into Vulkan+OpenCL, with a view to running softsynth on the GPU. It's like, Vulkan was made in heaven to suit this application. Sure, you can get things on Windows that Linux doesn't have, but these days the reverse is true just as often, plus you get the stability, security etc etc, all for no money down and none per month. Well, I also spend money when I want to. Steam gets money from me, and Humble Bundle. Sometimes I donate to projects, it just feels good.
Don't miss Windows a bit. I do have a Windows 10 laptop but it's been off for months. I have a Macbook too, also off. Those machines just don't give me anything I actually need or use. I used to end up with a spare Windows drive every time I bought a new desktop, I thought maybe keep the disk in case I actually need to boot Windows on the Linux workstation sometime. Never happened. I eventually end up formatting those. This isn't an issue any more because it's more satisfying to order the parts and build exactly what I want with the satisfaction of no Windows tax. Wetted my appetite with a Piledriver, then a Ryzen box, now speccing out a serious Threadripper monster. 16 or 32 cores? Hmm, decisions decisions. Life is good in Linux land.
Twenty years for me. Linux was crude back then, but never as bad as early versions of Windows, not even close. And never locked up or needed reboot, just like now. And relatively easy to update, remember the rpmfind days? (Still exists actually.) Star Office was the office suite and Navigator was the browser. For many people, the mailer too. KDE was largely unknown and the Gnome guys were just getting started on their successful jihad to force KDE into full GPL and their less successful struggle to build a usable desktop after that. Even then, you could get by with Linux instead of Windows. I did. Sometimes there would be difficulties, PDF had not yet displaced.doc for business communication so that sometimes caused issues. But nothing remotely close to the major issue of having to put up with Microsoft and its insecure, unstable excuse for an operating system.
Twenty years later, here we are. Two decades of being able to escape any time they want, and we see with something between horror and amusement, all those Microsoft victims still huddling in squalor in the Windows dungeon. Stockholm syndrome or what?
That would be ChromeOS, which already has window dragging support coyly tucked away in developer options. Also now runs Android apps and full Linux distros (in a vm in a container, how's that for paranoia).
One additional comment: I ran Civ V from the LXDE desktop, where it had thoughtfully placed the icon all by itself. Civ didn't start, but eventually when I logged out of LXDE, Civ immediately started on the KDE desktop. Other apps didn't have any problem figuring out where and when they should start, so this is a Steam bug. The concept of parallel desktop sessions is a foreign concept to the mind of a game developer? Or more respectfully: nobody thought to try this so nobody noticed that whatever hack they did in to make the launcher work isn't quite right.
What is the value add of the Ubuntu part? Honest question.
Repositories, packages known to work without extra fiddling, and the most forum support.
Which packages are those, that are supposed to require extra fiddling on Debian but not Ubuntu?
And what the heck is a "software channel"?
Repositories.
So why doesn't Ubuntu say that? What is this "software channel" newspeak? Are Ubuntu users supposed to be too stupid to know what a repository is?
Sysadmin here.... Don't use update-manager. Waste of time. There is no difference without it.
Not exactly. The Ubuntu way of upgrading to a new version is update-manager, which edits sources.list and who knows what else it does. The Debian way is, edit sources.list, which has been highly robust for me, unlike Ubuntu update-manager.
When LXQT lands in Debian I will certainly try it and see how it stacks up against KDE, it's just an apt install away.
So, a few years ago? Install and try it out. You really should be on stretch and not jessie. Several critical security problems have been flagged as not getting a fix prior to stretch. Worse than anything microsoft has done in years. Dozens of man-hours pinning processes using split repos or portables to get around those problems. Terrible.
LXQT works fine on Buster. I installed and ran in a parallel session without rebooting or even logging out. Don't you just love Linux? Anyway, LXQT is a bit rough around the edges compared to KDE. Application windows look and work about the same but the task bar is just a black rectange. It probably has a bunch of features I didn't try, but I did drop an icon onto it as suggested by the prompt and it worked as expected. Dragged some windows around fiddled with settings, tried a few tray things. Yes, seems serviceable. But no obvious reason why I should run it instead of KDE.
I doubt that anyone can explain anything to you, your farted out your post without even reading what you replied to. You saw "video game" and you reacted, much like a toddler. The video game assets reference is merely to give a sense of scale for those who don't have a well defined intuition for how much information you can express in a given number of bits. You clearly lack that intuition and more. Everybody who reads your post will be more stupid than before they read it, nice work.
apparently thirty three language communities decided to bind to Gtk+, sometimes in multiple implementations, but only fourteen language communities decided to bind to Qt5 (of course some bindings are missing from the list, but that happened to both sides) - which is rather telling, isn't it?
It does tell you something: the vast majority of GUI apps are written in OO languages now. But even without a binding you can easily put a QT GUI on a C program if you want to. You compile main() as C++, add your GUI there, then the rest of your C code is compiled and called as standard C. Alternatively, you can make the small changes required to compile your C code as C++. Far easier than gritting your teeth and dealing with endless GTK crappiness, and a slicker end result.
I doubt anybody will lose sleep over not being able to call QT from Tcl or Fortran. If somebody really does want Fortran+QT then they can do it the same way as C.
Whatever they were already using, nobody was screaming for a change, especially not a proprietary lock-in change. Lets not make stupid mistakes because of being in a rush over a fictitious deadline. But you know perfectly well that Apple concocted the Metal scheme in hopes of creating lock in, and not because of any timing thing. Instead, they succeeded at creating a lock-out scheme as any fool could have predicted.
I note that IOS game revenue is now behind Android, just one more number that Apple cultists used to love trotting out and can't any more. What's the next fallback? Apple makes more profit on games than anybody? Until that isn't true either.
IIRC, Devs. were QUITE whining about the state of OpenGL on Apple's platforms.
Entirely Apple's doing, a transparently obvious of the whole sleazy plan. Apparently, Apple's intentionally broken OpenGL support will be fixed by MoltenVK. MoltenVK is the new reality that means no developer needs to waste resources on Metal to target Mac. Initial Vulkan Performance On macOS With Dota 2 Is Looking Very Good
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Apple’s average selling price is way up from a year ago
What could possibly go wrong with that?
Leash, Tracking Device AND a Bug!
Just to be clear, you aren't just talking about North Korea, are you.
I presume that only party members can afford them, and most probably, are required to have them.
AOL actually provided unfiltered access to the internet. You could just ignore the entire AOL portal if you wanted, which many people did, the only drawback being that AOL email address, which marked you as an AOLer. But at that time, nearly everybody used their ISP's domain for their email address, so not a huge issue. Everything was dial-up at that time so it was impractical to run your own server, though that started to be a thing amongst the cognoscenti just a few years later.
Amusing thinking about what kind of games the Nokos might approve for distribution. Pacman with ghosts that look like Great Leader? (But if you eat one you lose and go to jail for real.)
Maybe switch to Linux. How many more times does this need to happen before somebody gets a clue?
While the Android makers continue to lose money, selling less and less of their crappy phones, instead of staying flat. That's the wrong kind of winning
Why would an Apple asshole care what kind of winning the Android phone makers are doing? (Rhetorical question.)
Even if it were true that Android makers are losing money, which it isn't. High end Android phones have big fat margins just like Apple's products. Low end Android phones like the ones that are flooding India are certainly not loss leaders. The makers make them because it makes them make money, see? Even an Apple asshole like you should be able to see that. (BTW, if you don't want to be called an asshole then consider keeping that dumbass word to yourself.)
Then there is the fantastic amount of money that flows through the entire Android engineering, manufacturing and distribution ecosystem. And the Android app ecosystem, now far larger than Apple's walled garden. So many companies benefiting, so many employees taking home good salaries. The Android industry is actually a significant portion of the world economy now, regardless of how much it infuriates an Apple asshole.
As an alpha asshole, you are a great ambassador for Apple. And like a typical Apple camp follower you are a barefaced liar. Apple freeloaded on the Vulkan working group to build its own incompatible API, as any fool can see. Yes it was a plan, however idiotic. Doesn't change the slimy intent. Doesn't matter how a lying fucktard like you tries to spin it. Apple stays on the Vulkan working group to freeload on more of their great work. Just the kind of thing we have come to expect from Apple. Sweet that Autodesk rubbed your face in it, looking forward to more of that.
What an asshole. OK, tell us how many byte equivalents the human genome stores. Let's see your flacid mind attempt to go to work, this will be amusing. Safe to say, your mother didn't bequeath you anything between the ears other than compulsion to insult and scant talent for doing it.
Apple beats earrings most quarters, because blah blah blah
No. Apple beat earnings this quarter for exactly one reason: The 41.3 million iPhones shipped during the third quarter is basically flat from the year-ago period, but the ASP of $724 is a notable jump from the year-ago period. In otherwords, squeezed more money from each brain-damaged Apple cultist. with only one possible result: Apple's 17% slice of the smartphone pie will get smaller.
Not that I can really think of any other way for AAPL to keep its share price flying high. But anybody who isn't high on Apple Kookaid can see where it goes.
Keyboard, Mouse, Cut n Paste, Multi Window. Classic desktop usability requirements with well known and familiar solutions These suck donkey balls on both Android and Chromebook.
Cut and paste... it's just maddening, that's the only word for it. Why do I need to hunt around for a paste option that is a menu option, different in every application if it even exists? Come on you guys, you know you hacked this thing together in a couple days back in the dim history of early Android. So spend a couple more weeks and fix it, ok?
Mouse does almost work except crappy. I'm not going to go into it, try it. While at it, try to cut and paste with the mouse. Compare to how it works in Windows or Linux.
Keyboard shortcuts... unmitigated disaster. Coordination between mouse and keyboard, even worse.
Multiwindow support, don't get me started. This is not rocket science.
Hey Google smart people: IF YOU SAY THAT CHROMEBOOK DOES NOT SUFFER FROM BAD USER EXPERIENCE THEN YOU ARE LYING AND YOU KNOW IT
Stop being idiots and fix these two arbitrary and stupid restrictions:
* Rotate to upside down. It never makes sense to forbid it, maybe have an option to disable for that one person who thinks it's a great feature to not be able to do it
* Rotate home screen on handset. Come on, there are a significant number of users who use their gigantic phones in landscape, not portrait. Maybe have an option to disable that for the one person who thinks its a great feature to be unable to do it.
Thanks guys, Remember, you are are smart people right? So act like it. I know I can get these by installing an app, but just don't be jerkoff micromanagers ignoring the wishes of users ok? At least, try to keep that down to a dull roar.
Window dragging support PogChamp. Oh it's tucked away in developer mode
Because Google management isn't yet sure they want android devices to be full computers. Control freak Google views that as possibly giving users a way to be less dependent on Google's services, maybe ultimately consuming less advertising or feeding back less telemetry. But on the other hand they know that many users want it, and those who want it tend to be thought leaders. And it's maybe a great way to bang another nail into the Microsoft coffin. So some powerpoint team at Google is conflicted. The solution is, implement it and put it out there for QA, but do not make it official until some PHB committee comes down the mountain with a grand vision.
Yes, it's stupid, and par for the course in network effect monopoly land.
I also have Windows for gaming, but as soon as Win7 goes out of service, gaming is the only thing I will be doing on Windows
I already have more AAA titles on Linux than I have time to play and a PS4 in case that somehow isn't enough. So this is a Windows-free zone, there is never a reason to run Windows here. It's also a great time to be a professional artist or musician on Linux. Sure, some tools are immature but some are awesome. I just discovered Liquidsynth and its galaxy of LADSPA plugins. And JACK. And Lillypond, mmmm nice. And there is Krita, best in class for digital painting, Blender, competitive with Maya for professional 3D modelling but thousands of dollars cheaper ($0.00) and Inkscape, already the best SVG editor and well on its way to being the best object drawing program. All for free, and all getting great new features every few months. It's like Christmas all the time. Now I'm getting into Vulkan+OpenCL, with a view to running softsynth on the GPU. It's like, Vulkan was made in heaven to suit this application. Sure, you can get things on Windows that Linux doesn't have, but these days the reverse is true just as often, plus you get the stability, security etc etc, all for no money down and none per month. Well, I also spend money when I want to. Steam gets money from me, and Humble Bundle. Sometimes I donate to projects, it just feels good.
Don't miss Windows a bit. I do have a Windows 10 laptop but it's been off for months. I have a Macbook too, also off. Those machines just don't give me anything I actually need or use. I used to end up with a spare Windows drive every time I bought a new desktop, I thought maybe keep the disk in case I actually need to boot Windows on the Linux workstation sometime. Never happened. I eventually end up formatting those. This isn't an issue any more because it's more satisfying to order the parts and build exactly what I want with the satisfaction of no Windows tax. Wetted my appetite with a Piledriver, then a Ryzen box, now speccing out a serious Threadripper monster. 16 or 32 cores? Hmm, decisions decisions. Life is good in Linux land.
Twenty years for me. Linux was crude back then, but never as bad as early versions of Windows, not even close. And never locked up or needed reboot, just like now. And relatively easy to update, remember the rpmfind days? (Still exists actually.) Star Office was the office suite and Navigator was the browser. For many people, the mailer too. KDE was largely unknown and the Gnome guys were just getting started on their successful jihad to force KDE into full GPL and their less successful struggle to build a usable desktop after that. Even then, you could get by with Linux instead of Windows. I did. Sometimes there would be difficulties, PDF had not yet displaced .doc for business communication so that sometimes caused issues. But nothing remotely close to the major issue of having to put up with Microsoft and its insecure, unstable excuse for an operating system.
Twenty years later, here we are. Two decades of being able to escape any time they want, and we see with something between horror and amusement, all those Microsoft victims still huddling in squalor in the Windows dungeon. Stockholm syndrome or what?
That would be ChromeOS, which already has window dragging support coyly tucked away in developer options. Also now runs Android apps and full Linux distros (in a vm in a container, how's that for paranoia).
So, like a Chromebook except expensive, crappy and insecure? Got it.
Just when you thought Windows can't get any worse they pull this out. I'm not weeping I'm chuckling.
One additional comment: I ran Civ V from the LXDE desktop, where it had thoughtfully placed the icon all by itself. Civ didn't start, but eventually when I logged out of LXDE, Civ immediately started on the KDE desktop. Other apps didn't have any problem figuring out where and when they should start, so this is a Steam bug. The concept of parallel desktop sessions is a foreign concept to the mind of a game developer? Or more respectfully: nobody thought to try this so nobody noticed that whatever hack they did in to make the launcher work isn't quite right.
What is the value add of the Ubuntu part? Honest question.
Repositories, packages known to work without extra fiddling, and the most forum support.
Which packages are those, that are supposed to require extra fiddling on Debian but not Ubuntu?
And what the heck is a "software channel"?
Repositories.
So why doesn't Ubuntu say that? What is this "software channel" newspeak? Are Ubuntu users supposed to be too stupid to know what a repository is?
Sysadmin here .... Don't use update-manager. Waste of time. There is no difference without it.
Not exactly. The Ubuntu way of upgrading to a new version is update-manager, which edits sources.list and who knows what else it does. The Debian way is, edit sources.list, which has been highly robust for me, unlike Ubuntu update-manager.
When LXQT lands in Debian I will certainly try it and see how it stacks up against KDE, it's just an apt install away.
So, a few years ago? Install and try it out. You really should be on stretch and not jessie. Several critical security problems have been flagged as not getting a fix prior to stretch. Worse than anything microsoft has done in years. Dozens of man-hours pinning processes using split repos or portables to get around those problems. Terrible.
LXQT works fine on Buster. I installed and ran in a parallel session without rebooting or even logging out. Don't you just love Linux? Anyway, LXQT is a bit rough around the edges compared to KDE. Application windows look and work about the same but the task bar is just a black rectange. It probably has a bunch of features I didn't try, but I did drop an icon onto it as suggested by the prompt and it worked as expected. Dragged some windows around fiddled with settings, tried a few tray things. Yes, seems serviceable. But no obvious reason why I should run it instead of KDE.
I doubt that anyone can explain anything to you, your farted out your post without even reading what you replied to. You saw "video game" and you reacted, much like a toddler. The video game assets reference is merely to give a sense of scale for those who don't have a well defined intuition for how much information you can express in a given number of bits. You clearly lack that intuition and more. Everybody who reads your post will be more stupid than before they read it, nice work.
I'm actually mostly interested in putting a Qt GUI on a Common Lisp or Chez program.
You're in luck
apparently thirty three language communities decided to bind to Gtk+, sometimes in multiple implementations, but only fourteen language communities decided to bind to Qt5 (of course some bindings are missing from the list, but that happened to both sides) - which is rather telling, isn't it?
It does tell you something: the vast majority of GUI apps are written in OO languages now. But even without a binding you can easily put a QT GUI on a C program if you want to. You compile main() as C++, add your GUI there, then the rest of your C code is compiled and called as standard C. Alternatively, you can make the small changes required to compile your C code as C++. Far easier than gritting your teeth and dealing with endless GTK crappiness, and a slicker end result.
I doubt anybody will lose sleep over not being able to call QT from Tcl or Fortran. If somebody really does want Fortran+QT then they can do it the same way as C.
Whatever they were already using, nobody was screaming for a change, especially not a proprietary lock-in change. Lets not make stupid mistakes because of being in a rush over a fictitious deadline. But you know perfectly well that Apple concocted the Metal scheme in hopes of creating lock in, and not because of any timing thing. Instead, they succeeded at creating a lock-out scheme as any fool could have predicted.
I note that IOS game revenue is now behind Android, just one more number that Apple cultists used to love trotting out and can't any more. What's the next fallback? Apple makes more profit on games than anybody? Until that isn't true either.
Give it a rest, willya?
Stop being sleazy, willya?
IIRC, Devs. were QUITE whining about the state of OpenGL on Apple's platforms.
Entirely Apple's doing, a transparently obvious of the whole sleazy plan. Apparently, Apple's intentionally broken OpenGL support will be fixed by MoltenVK. MoltenVK is the new reality that means no developer needs to waste resources on Metal to target Mac. Initial Vulkan Performance On macOS With Dota 2 Is Looking Very Good