That's nothing. Get into Epyc and you won't have onboard sound either, and you probably won't care. You will have a 9 pin serial port for power management.
Linux itself still works on 386 processors (as far as I know)
The mainline Linux kernel no longer supports the 386, the architecture was removed in at kernel 3.8 in 2012. However, nothing stops you from building a 386 kernel from source for 3.7 or earlier. These are capable kernels, after all most of modern big tech was built on these. You are highly unlikely to hit any kernel bugs in a stable kernel from that era. If you want to support newer hardware that those older kernels do not know about, or close the latest security holes, you should probably be using a more recent processor.
This is actually not true—the Google contract is pretty explicit and it's not all one-sided.
Show me who has successfully sued Google for violating its terms of service and I might believe you. As compared to the countless Google customers who have had their service cut off with no compensation whatsoever and usually not even an apology. Not one sided? Give me a break.
Whoosh. The GP's point was the Google never contractually obligates itself to customers, because it can get away with that, flouting the norms of commerce. They can get away with this because their customers are stupid.
You can forgive smaller startups for going with what looks like the easier route. But when the business is well on its way, that is when to get out of the cloud, in the interest of minimizing risk and expense.This is also the point in the lifecycle where the business is most likely to believe that their judgment is infallible, simply because they are successful so far. Basically, it was this attitude that doomed Yahoo, do you want to be the next Yahoo?
When you push out the revisions twice a year, somethings will always go wrong for some devices.
Riddle me this: how does Linux manage to push out revisions at more than ten times that rate while almost never regressing on any device? Not to mention that Linux tends to support devices forever, unlike Windows.
Having spinning disks in a laptop is just irresponsible and should come with large warning signs.
Give me a break. This has been the status quo for thirty years and is only changing now, not because it doesn't work, but because something better finally arrived. And don't get the idea that laptops suddenly stopped shipping with hard disks last week. It's going to end soon, but as of today many or most of the low end laptops still have them.
I don't put in traditional SSD any more either, I don't know about you but it's been M.2 for me in everything except legacy upgrades. I suppose you can loosely call that SSD, but it isn't really, it is a block device but it is not SATA. Goodbye disk, it's no longer trying to act like one.
I mean, maybe, but I bought a cheap HP Stream 11 a year or two ago. 4 GB RAM, 64 GB MMC. Not fast. Not a big screen. Not a great laptop. But it was $200, and it's extremely lightweight. So... if even the $200 machines have given up spinning rust, how much place does it really still have for that use case?
Couldn't be bothered to go on Amazon or Newegg and see what is actually being sold? OK, you blathered on about what you bought and you have plenty of company. But as of today, your basic cheap laptop has a 1TB spinning disk. Go cheap than that and you find Chromebooks, that's about it. A Chromebook is not normally considered a laptop.
Everybody knows that hard disks will be disappearing from laptops sooner or later, but as of today it has not happened. By the way, it's a stretch to call an 11" machine a laptop. Notebook at best.
By the way, those super cheap notebooks are crap for running Windows, half the time they crash on update, but they run Linux just fine.
this is a kind of Rowhammer attack, which Apple mitigated in 2015
If Apple says they mitigated it years ago, even without knowing about current research, then we can rest assured that they told the truth just as always, right? Right?
And Apple cultists with mod points will not stand for any criticism. No, none. Nor have any concept of ethical use of moderation, just like Apple itself has no concept of ethics.
There is a lot of competition in the SSD space, and prices are falling faster than HDD. But spinning magnetic media is still cheaper to produce per bit, but a factor of 7-8 or so now. That is a lot of gap close even in just the last year. Eventually, SSD will take so much market away from HDD that economies of scale will weaken. They already have, actually.
It is possible that prices will eventually reach parity, but more likely they will just keep getting asymptotically closer for the next decade or two. But for personal use, the tipping point was already reached some time ago - there are far more computing devices now shipping with SSD than spinning disk. The holdouts are just ultra cheap laptops and desktops, and even there, a new wave of Chromebook-like devices is taking over. Maybe just two or three years until you just won't see any PCs with root fs on HDD are as rare as floppies.
Soon, consumer HDD will only be for backup and media archive. In that role, you will probably be more interested in 5400rpm drives, which makes the mechanical parts cheaper, quieter and less power hungry, so I don't see HDD completely disappearing for home use any time soon. But we will continue to see many users who just don't care about backup, or who think that backing up to the cloud is a good idea. Maybe in a couple of years you will be seeing HDD in less than a quarter of home PCs, and nonexistent in the office. At that point, SSD will still be at least 5 times more expensive per bit than HDD and that won't be enough of a gap to move most people.
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Remember when somebody sunk $40 million into Gnome and ended up with one new theme?
I presume he meant some sort of motherboard with a graphics chip on the board, which I'm guessing exists still
I haven't seen one.
That's nothing. Get into Epyc and you won't have onboard sound either, and you probably won't care. You will have a 9 pin serial port for power management.
Linux itself still works on 386 processors (as far as I know)
The mainline Linux kernel no longer supports the 386, the architecture was removed in at kernel 3.8 in 2012. However, nothing stops you from building a 386 kernel from source for 3.7 or earlier. These are capable kernels, after all most of modern big tech was built on these. You are highly unlikely to hit any kernel bugs in a stable kernel from that era. If you want to support newer hardware that those older kernels do not know about, or close the latest security holes, you should probably be using a more recent processor.
This is actually not true—the Google contract is pretty explicit and it's not all one-sided.
Show me who has successfully sued Google for violating its terms of service and I might believe you. As compared to the countless Google customers who have had their service cut off with no compensation whatsoever and usually not even an apology. Not one sided? Give me a break.
Whoosh. The GP's point was the Google never contractually obligates itself to customers, because it can get away with that, flouting the norms of commerce. They can get away with this because their customers are stupid.
You can forgive smaller startups for going with what looks like the easier route. But when the business is well on its way, that is when to get out of the cloud, in the interest of minimizing risk and expense.This is also the point in the lifecycle where the business is most likely to believe that their judgment is infallible, simply because they are successful so far. Basically, it was this attitude that doomed Yahoo, do you want to be the next Yahoo?
In a word: arrogance. We see this way too much with Google, the new evil.
When you push out the revisions twice a year, somethings will always go wrong for some devices.
Riddle me this: how does Linux manage to push out revisions at more than ten times that rate while almost never regressing on any device? Not to mention that Linux tends to support devices forever, unlike Windows.
Not within the lifetime of anyone alive right now.
Haha. Idiot.
Modded down by an idiot with mod points? I hear they stick together.
We will never see 128TB SD cards. Never. I would even be willing to wager money on it.
Maybe even you can see how ridiculous that statement is. In case you still don't see it... supposing you win, when do you collect?
Having spinning disks in a laptop is just irresponsible and should come with large warning signs.
Give me a break. This has been the status quo for thirty years and is only changing now, not because it doesn't work, but because something better finally arrived. And don't get the idea that laptops suddenly stopped shipping with hard disks last week. It's going to end soon, but as of today many or most of the low end laptops still have them.
The M.2 SATA is 100% SATA-compatible, complete with slow transfer speeds and everything!
The only possible reason for wanting that would be some lame version of Windows or something like that. Otherwise, avoid.
By the way, that "physical internal storage" you speak of is typically just a SD card with BGA instead of pins.
But has anybody ever needed more than that in one's phone or tablet or camera?
Yes.
2 years at most.
Not within the lifetime of anyone alive right now.
Haha. Idiot.
I don't put in traditional SSD any more either, I don't know about you but it's been M.2 for me in everything except legacy upgrades. I suppose you can loosely call that SSD, but it isn't really, it is a block device but it is not SATA. Goodbye disk, it's no longer trying to act like one.
I mean, maybe, but I bought a cheap HP Stream 11 a year or two ago. 4 GB RAM, 64 GB MMC. Not fast. Not a big screen. Not a great laptop. But it was $200, and it's extremely lightweight. So... if even the $200 machines have given up spinning rust, how much place does it really still have for that use case?
Couldn't be bothered to go on Amazon or Newegg and see what is actually being sold? OK, you blathered on about what you bought and you have plenty of company. But as of today, your basic cheap laptop has a 1TB spinning disk. Go cheap than that and you find Chromebooks, that's about it. A Chromebook is not normally considered a laptop.
Everybody knows that hard disks will be disappearing from laptops sooner or later, but as of today it has not happened. By the way, it's a stretch to call an 11" machine a laptop. Notebook at best.
By the way, those super cheap notebooks are crap for running Windows, half the time they crash on update, but they run Linux just fine.
this is a kind of Rowhammer attack, which Apple mitigated in 2015
If Apple says they mitigated it years ago, even without knowing about current research, then we can rest assured that they told the truth just as always, right? Right?
And Apple cultists with mod points will not stand for any criticism. No, none. Nor have any concept of ethical use of moderation, just like Apple itself has no concept of ethics.
Good thing somebody was on the ball. The market is full of 512gb memory cards right now, how far away do you think 2TB is?
There is a lot of competition in the SSD space, and prices are falling faster than HDD. But spinning magnetic media is still cheaper to produce per bit, but a factor of 7-8 or so now. That is a lot of gap close even in just the last year. Eventually, SSD will take so much market away from HDD that economies of scale will weaken. They already have, actually.
It is possible that prices will eventually reach parity, but more likely they will just keep getting asymptotically closer for the next decade or two. But for personal use, the tipping point was already reached some time ago - there are far more computing devices now shipping with SSD than spinning disk. The holdouts are just ultra cheap laptops and desktops, and even there, a new wave of Chromebook-like devices is taking over. Maybe just two or three years until you just won't see any PCs with root fs on HDD are as rare as floppies.
Soon, consumer HDD will only be for backup and media archive. In that role, you will probably be more interested in 5400rpm drives, which makes the mechanical parts cheaper, quieter and less power hungry, so I don't see HDD completely disappearing for home use any time soon. But we will continue to see many users who just don't care about backup, or who think that backing up to the cloud is a good idea. Maybe in a couple of years you will be seeing HDD in less than a quarter of home PCs, and nonexistent in the office. At that point, SSD will still be at least 5 times more expensive per bit than HDD and that won't be enough of a gap to move most people.
So true, 128TB cards could be ten years away, how dare anybody plan for it now.
Mandatory predator reference.
Redundant, what? Some dunce with mod points?