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ComputerWorld Says Newest Windows 10 'Isn't Ready for Prime Time' (computerworld.com)

"Despite Microsoft's assurances, Windows 10 1803 isn't ready for prime time," writes ComputerWorld's Woody Leonhard, adding "Microsoft's patches in June took on some unexpected twists..." Win10 1803 was declared fully fit for business, a pronouncement that was followed weeks later by fixes for a few glaring, acknowledged bugs -- and stony silence for other known problems. We're continuing the two-big-cumulative-updates-a-month pace for all supported versions of Windows 10. The second cumulative update frequently fixes bugs introduced by the first cumulative update. Microsoft may think that Win10 (1803) is ready for widespread deployment, but there are a few folks who would take issue with that stance...

Tuesday, Microsoft finally released a fix for two big bugs that have dogged Win10 1803 since its inception... In practice, life isn't so simple. WSUS (the Windows Update Server software) isn't "seeing" KB 4284848, as of late Wednesday afternoon -- which may be a good thing. Along with the second cumulative update this month, there are additional releases to fix the Servicing Stack, and a new "Compatibility update" that, per the documentation, is designed to make it easier to upgrade Win10 1803 Enterprise to Win10 1803 Enterprise (not a typo)...

One problem that has been acknowledged -- but only by a Microsoft Agent on an Answers Forum post -- says that installing 1803 can clobber your peer-to-peer network. That certainly matches my experience.

Woody concludes, "If you think Win10 1803 is ready for prime time, you're welcome to give it a try."

200 comments

  1. No Windows... by jawtheshark · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No version of Windows was ever ready for prime time..

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    1. Re:No Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Windows... The Gates Project" was on prime time TV 40 years ago.

    2. Re:No Windows... by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

      No version of Windows was ever ready for prime time..

      Kind of like Tesla Autopilot.

    3. Re:No Windows... by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      What about the version in the movie "Pirates of Silicon Valley," is that ready for prime time? I don't think it was ready for the box office, surely it is ready for prime time though? Probably not ready for daytime viewing, though.

    4. Re:No Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Kind of like Tesla Autopilot"

      Now that the hype and vaporware are dead, from now on Tesla's Autopilot will be referred to as a Driver-Assistance system, or driver-assist for short.

    5. Re:No Windows... by vtcodger · · Score: 1

      "Now that the hype and vaporware are dead, from now on Tesla's Autopilot will be referred to as a Driver-Assistance system, or driver-assist for short."

      At long last, a tool that will help those who are unable to run into fire-trucks on their own to achieve their life-long goal.

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      You can't see ANYTHING from a car, You've got to get out of the goddamned contraption and walk...Edward Abbey
    6. Re:No Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Bullshit. Windows 7 was, and is, just fine.

    7. Re:No Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows 8 is better than Windows 7 in almost every way.

    8. Re:No Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows 7 is buggy as hell. It's a terrible operating system.

    9. Re:No Windows... by antdude · · Score: 1

      How so? Its usability is crap!

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    10. Re:No Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No version of Windows was ever ready for prime time..

      It shouldn't be, with the ads for Viagra & Cialis scrolling across the screen.

    11. Re:No Windows... by Luckyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Windows 7 is like modern liberal democracy. It's a terrible system for the purpose, except when compared to all the other systems that were tried for the same purpose.

    12. Re:No Windows... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      better than Windows 7 in almost every way

      He did say "almost". The missing ways include usability and performance.

      Disclaimer: I have not used any version of Windows since 7, and have never even seen Windows 10 - everyone I know has stuck with 7 or uses Linux.

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    13. Re:No Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually Windows 8 has better performance and backward compatibility than Windows Vista/7 across the board. The *only* area that Windows 8 is worse is the start screen, which is easily remedied by using a third party start menu, such as Classic Shell or Start8, or simply by adding your start menu directory to the taskbar as a toolbar. It really was such a silly thing for people to feign outrage over compared to the likes of the Windows Vista/7 single monitor taskbar and laggy UI or Windows 10's spyware.

      People who claim that Windows 8 is this horrible piece of crap haven't ever actually used it or given it a chance. It's the best version of Windows to date because it improves performance and compatibility over Windows Vista/7, it adds basic features that Windows Vista/7 doesn't have, such as true multi-monitor support and it doesn't have the built-in spyware or forced updates and reboots of Windows 10.

    14. Re:No Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A start menu, especially one that is easily replaced, is a trivial thing to get upset over.

      Windows Vista/7, on the other hand, has poor multi-monitor support, a laggy bling-first UI, lower performance and lower compatibility.

    15. Re:No Windows... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      No version of Windows was ever ready for prime time..

      Well, XP functioned pretty well, and Windows 7 is pretty stable.

      But Windows 10 is the biggest steaming pile of shit of an OS, the only thing it does well is make Vista and Windows 8 look good.

      Even then, it could be salvageable if Microsoft ditched it's BOHICA based update process. I have a network of Windows 10 machines that has functioned well for a couple years now. Then again, it is airgapped by several miles, and hasn't been updated - which means no Microsoft mandated failures.

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    16. Re:No Windows... by jawtheshark · · Score: 1
      The XP you remember is SP2... SP2 worked pretty well, but at release? What a mess.

      7 was ok, but do remember that 7 is actually Vista SP2.

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    17. Re:No Windows... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      The XP you remember is SP2... SP2 worked pretty well, but at release? What a mess.

      7 was ok, but do remember that 7 is actually Vista SP2.

      No argument there. Unfortunately, W10 is not getting better.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    18. Re: No Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What "stupid app screens"? You mean from the apps you can easily remove and that you never see if you simply don't use the start screen?

      The reason you are upset and resort to childish schoolyard insults is because I have made a valid case and you have nothing to counter with. You're just a hater. Grow up.

    19. Re:No Windows... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      The missing ways include usability, performance reliability, nice red uniforms and an almost fanatical devotion to The Pope.

      I'll come in again.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    20. Re:No Windows... by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Windows 7 could use the "Windows Classic" theme, the only good-looking and most usable skin ever created for Windows. Windows 8 and later are too sophisticated to do what Windows could do 20 years ago.

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    21. Re:No Windows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh ffs keep this childish and inaccurate rhetoric in the 1990's

  2. Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 2

    the fact that I deleted windows 10 and went back to windows 7 should be enough to say what I think about windows 10 "be ready to use"...

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    1. Re:Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      INFIDEL !

    2. Re:Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by alvinrod · · Score: 2

      I've found that the install disc makes a perfectly good coaster. Seems plenty ready for use to me.

    3. Re:Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bought a new computer recently, a Dell XPS that came with Windows 10. I had done my homework, collected drivers, etc. and upgraded it to Windows 7. This was particularly tricky, thanks to the need to install on a system with USB 3.0 hardware, but I managed. The result is a stable, fast system I know how to use without any of MS's typical "where did they move thing X in the UI to now???" garbage, and zero worries about it phoning home.

      W7 will likely go down in history as the high water mark for Windows releases, from a user viewpoint. That's sad on multiply levels...

    4. Re: Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Windows 7 comes with phone-home upgrades now.

      I recently bought a legit retail-box copy of Win7 pro on eBay to replace the retail box copy of Windows 10 I put on the system I built from parts last year. I paid $110 for the Win10 at a local retail store, and it was just that bad on a full desktop system. Good for 'light' use on a laptop, piss poor on a real work box with EDA tools and development stuff.

      You've gotta buy a legit Win7 at this point, because Microsoft is hammering warez installs now with WGA. I got tired of fighting that and made the terrible mistake of buying the Win10 retail box. Shoulda bought the 7 right then and not messed around. Microsoft has probably ramped up the WGA to drive people off 7.

    5. Re: Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by cdsparrow · · Score: 2, Interesting

      None of the pirated win7 installs I come across have any issues... Most of the activation cracks that are out now are pretty solid from what I've seen, including on win10.

    6. Re:Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Aighearach · · Score: 3, Funny

      In `98 they sent me a free copy of Windows Server 2000, and it was very stable platform for my coffee for years. I hated coding without it there by my side, it just really enhanced my experience! And it wasn't like a cheapo from AOL that would lose the printing right away; it was really printed solid, like a powder-coat or something.

    7. Re: Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Jesus+H+Rolle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In `98 they sent me a free copy of Windows Server 2000, and it was very stable platform for my coffee for years.

      Windows 2000 was the first and last version worth installing. Microsoft almost got it right. Shame there was no 64 bit release.

    8. Re:Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows XP/2003 was the high water mark for Windows. It has been steadily downhill since.

    9. Re: Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In 2001, there was Windows Advanced Server Limited Edition

      Technically, it's an early 64-bit release of Server 2003.

    10. Re:Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by geoskd · · Score: 1

      Windows XP/2003 was the high water mark for Windows. It has been steadily downhill since.

      Ubuntu 16.04 is the high water mark for Windows...

      Those who know use Debian or BSD. Those that don't use Ubuntu

      Those that will happily send a check to the prince of Nigeria use Windows.

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    11. Re:Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Completely agree, fellow anon.

      I'm forced to use Windows at work. Power user here, heavy, heavy text especially, also spreadsheets. No simple stupid one page correspondence letters here. Instead, slamming the OS and the office suite all day long.

      XP after Service Pack 3, with Office 2003, was at least tolerable. It worked. A five-thousand page document? No sweat, it handled it very easily.

      Everything Windows since then has been complete shite. People claim they like Windows 7. They're either lying/shilling, or they're the type of people who just essentially play on their computers, don't really use them for real work.

      Windows 7 is awful, an absolute bugfest. And each version since is worse and worse.

    12. Re: Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      It does not in fact come with such "upgrades", unless you got a slipstreamed disk where someone actually put those upgrades. Otherwise, you actually need to download them from windows update.

      And unlike win10, 7 actually asks you which updates you want, and which you don't. And if you're in doubt, you're a simple google search away from a comprehensive list of all of the "phone home upgrades" that you can just not install, or if you got that disk with them on it, uninstall said "upgrades".

      That moment when you remember that 7 actually acts like an operating system, and not malware. Shocking to current win10 pushing MS shills, I know.

    13. Re: Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The difference is that you can skip or uninstall those spyware updates from Windows 7 and Windows 8, then hide them so they never install again. You can't do that with Windows 10.

    14. Re: Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah did the same.... itâ(TM)s pretty stable as a coaster.... but it doesnâ(TM)t absorb moisture so itâ(TM)s still pretty shit as a coaster.

    15. Re: Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Gonoff · · Score: 1

      Windows 2000 was the first and last version worth installing. Microsoft almost got it right. Shame there was no 64 bit release.

      Microsith has done its very best to make the world forget that Windows 2000 even existed. Like many of Stalins co-conspirators, it has been airbrushed from history!

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    16. Re: Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      itâ(TM)s

      doesnâ(TM)t

      Fix your computer, pleb.

    17. Re: Win10 1803 is ready for prime time? Nope by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      The server version at that time (prior to public release of the consumer 2k) was actually NT4 with the new control panels, pretending to be the new OS. They were sending it out free to consultants because they wanted to fight against *nix on the server.

      But the Year of Windows on the Server never happened.

  3. Doesn't matter, it's happening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Beta testers of the world be forewarned.

  4. Think about Microsoft's real purpose. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe Microsoft is not a software company. Maybe Microsoft is primarily interested in being abusive.

    1. Re:Think about Microsoft's real purpose. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds plausible. I certainly have the rectal injuries to back up that claim.

    2. Re:Think about Microsoft's real purpose. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sure that's not caused from shoving your iPhone 7 Plus up your ass too many times?

    3. Re:Think about Microsoft's real purpose. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a three-year-old Android, you insensitive clod!

    4. Re:Think about Microsoft's real purpose. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it's not what you shove up your ass. That's what your iPhone is for.

    5. Re:Think about Microsoft's real purpose. by greenwow · · Score: 1

      Well their president is a lawyer and also their chief legal officer.

    6. Re:Think about Microsoft's real purpose. by geoskd · · Score: 1

      But it's not what you shove up your ass. That's what your iPhone is for.

      I saw that App, but I didn't want to shell out 5 bucks for the ad-free version...

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    7. Re:Think about Microsoft's real purpose. by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      I made the comment years ago that Microsoft's main business was maintaining their monopoly. Even though their monopoly has been seriously weakened, I don't think much else has changed. Most of the front-end changes made since Windows 7 have been to benefit Microsoft, not their users.

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  5. Windows 10 is ready by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For the trash can. Switch to linux or macOS instead.

    1. Re:Windows 10 is ready by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure my next desktop is going to be OSX running inside ESXi. Enable GPU passthrough and you're good to go.

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    2. Re: Windows 10 is ready by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could always go back to deadwood and a filing cabinet. Just sayin

    3. Re:Windows 10 is ready by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Linux -- Designed by nerd faggots for nerd faggots. Usability? Fuck You.

      This, ladies and gents, is how you know Linux has won. Windows users have no more ammunition left save random insults and invectives.

      Have fun wallowing in your self inflicted pain, fear and sorrow, freedomhaters. Windows have reached the terminal stage, the future belongs to Linux. Ironic that the company referring to free software as "cancer" on their own accord let their flagship succumb to the cancer of incompetence, arrogance, ignorance and stupidity.

    4. Re:Windows 10 is ready by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Windows users have no more ammunition left save random insults and invectives.

      I'm a Linux user ( ~ 99% of the time) and I mostly agree with him.

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    5. Re:Windows 10 is ready by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Windows have reached the terminal stage,

      No, only Linux and MacOS have Terminal. Windows has Command Prompt. I'm not certain many Windows users know about it.

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    6. Re:Windows 10 is ready by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      Windows users have no more ammunition left save random insults and invectives.

      I'm a Linux user ( ~ 99% of the time) and I mostly agree with him.

      They are suffering badly from Stockholm Syndrome.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    7. Re:Windows 10 is ready by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Is that an anagram of systemd something?

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    8. Re:Windows 10 is ready by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Is that an anagram of systemd something?

      Stockholm Syndrome is when you start to identify with whoever is harming you? The old example is of Patty Hearst, who was kidnapped by a group of kooks that called themselves the Symbionese Liberation Army. She ended up participating in their crimes, after starting to identify with them. Windows fans, long abused by Microsoft, , will defend them vociferously, like the guy I was replying to who was saying that 'you get used to it". I guess that's true.

      You eventually get used to hanging as well.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    9. Re: Windows 10 is ready by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I too use Linux as my daily driver, but see value in Windows 10 like I see value in downhill cycling, parkour, street racing and college coed strippers. Stability is sometimed just boring.

    10. Re:Windows 10 is ready by Gonoff · · Score: 0

      ... Windows fans, long abused by Microsoft, , will defend them vociferously, like the guy I was replying to who was saying that 'you get used to it". I guess that's true.

      I would also include a lot of Apple enthusiasts when describing this sort of thing.

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    11. Re:Windows 10 is ready by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      ... Windows fans, long abused by Microsoft, , will defend them vociferously, like the guy I was replying to who was saying that 'you get used to it". I guess that's true.

      I would also include a lot of Apple enthusiasts when describing this sort of thing.

      I'll bite - what abuse do Apple enthusiasts take other than the blind white hot hatred of Windows fans?

      I've owned, used and supported Windows and, Mac, for years, and more recently Linux. Very little to complain about on the OSX/MacOS side, other than the old but functioning Final Cut Studio Suite being made non-functional. But 10+ year old software? Meh.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    12. Re:Windows 10 is ready by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      what abuse do Apple enthusiasts take other than the blind white hot hatred of Windows fans?

      There's the dongle tax for starters.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    13. Re:Windows 10 is ready by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      what abuse do Apple enthusiasts take other than the blind white hot hatred of Windows fans?

      There's the dongle tax for starters.

      Come on - The headphone adapter being abuse is a little bit of a stretch. Kind of specious the concept of me having to sped 800 some dollars on dongles, when I haven't spent anyting other than whatever cost of purchasing the phone. My iphone 7 came with the dreaded thing, and I only used it once to check out the ear buds. They were nice, but I don't go wireless to wear the ultimate wired dongle - the wired headphones.

      I suspect that you are an Android fan, and if you want that headphone jack, and if you demand to be tethered to your wireless phone, then there are plenty of non-Apple options for you.

      A whole lot of us simply use Bluetooth, and experience wireless wireless. Your calling the dongle abuse is a non-starter for many (most?) of us.

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    14. Re:Windows 10 is ready by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I wish any of the mobile OSen was good enough to be a fan of, to be honest.

      I was expecting Android to be like Linux[1], and I've been rather disappointed.

      [1] INb4 the aspies: no it isn't, unless you can't tell the difference between an egg and an omelet.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    15. Re:Windows 10 is ready by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      I wish any of the mobile OSen was good enough to be a fan of, to be honest.

      I was expecting Android to be like Linux[1], and I've been rather disappointed.

      [1] INb4 the aspies: no it isn't, unless you can't tell the difference between an egg and an omelet.

      Ain't that the truth! MacOS and Linux are closer to each other than Linux and Android. Now people are really gonna go nuts.

      But yeah it seems a shame that the operating systems on the phones couldn't have been made compatible with the desktop OSs respectively.

      That's about all the typing for me today - I ran a wood chisel through my hand, and one handed typing sucks. Fortunately it hit bone and not tendons. Still made a bloody mess in the garage and kitchen.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
  6. Win 10's WHY I left MS products... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & instead went to Kubuntu 18.04 (KDE Plasma ROCKS & so does FreePascal + Lazarus IDE 1.8.2 which is ALL I really need). When my Win7 64-bit install media finally "bit it" & 2 disks (Raptor HDD & Intel SSD) blew out after ~4++ yrs.? I gave it a go (glad I did).

    * Very pleased & EXTREMELY impressed w/ how nice Linux really is now - that mythical/legendary "year of the Linux desktop"? NOT "outta the question" now imo...

    (Yes, it's THAT good!)

    Per the old Virginia Slims cig ads? "You've come a LONG ways, baby..." (sure has).

    APK

    P.S.=> ... & I'm out to help make it BETTER w/ the FUTURE (or did DOS beat out Windows + why does X/Wayland & KDE/Gnome/xfce exist w/ apps on them (that's for those of you who surfed here using Lynx (lol)) via the tools I note above & https://apple.slashdot.org/com... & I have an ODD FEELING that the BEST WORK I'm ever going to do in FREEWARE over time (hobby of mine I've done pretty ok on thru the decades) is going to be BETTER (it is already per that link) than it EVER WAS in Windows... apk

    1. Re:Win 10's WHY I left MS products... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KDE? Good luck. You must have a lot of patience with your new system. I've been running Linux since the early 90's and running almost all the DE's during that time. I can tell you that KDE is unstable as hell. The whole Qt environment is quite unstable sort of like Java. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Qt developer myself but I won't gloss over how buggy it is.

      XFCE or GNOME-Flashback are the most viable options at this time.

    2. Re:Win 10's WHY I left MS products... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      liar, liar, pants of fire.

    3. Re:Win 10's WHY I left MS products... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do know that "Ubuntu" is Swahili for "I don't really know anything about Linux, I just want people to think I'm hip," don't you?

    4. Re:Win 10's WHY I left MS products... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always thought it was Swahili for "Slackware is too hard"

  7. Doesn't matter by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ready for prime time or not, I'm sure it's going to show up real soon on my system in another ambush upgrade.

    (Hint to MS: I set the computer to "Hibernate" because I was expecting to come back and pick up where I left off *quickly*. I specifically did not want to come back to find "Windows is finishing updates. Do not turn off your PC" for 45 minutes instead, followed by having to recover all of the open files that got trashed.)

    1. Re:Doesn't matter by Wolfrider · · Score: 2

      --If you have at least a dual-core PC with 6+GB of RAM, you might consider going with a lightweight Linux+XFCE host OS (or Mac) and Win10 as a guest VM**. Virtualbox is free and can do ~95% of what Vmware is capable of. Veeam Agent for Windows and AOMEI are both free-as-in-beer and will restore to different hardware. Snapshots are your friend, and when you hibernate a VM ain't NOTHING waking it up unless you want it to.

      **Unless you need realtime speedy graphics or somesuch, for games/CAD

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      == WolfriderV6 == I'm willing to admit that *I just might* be wrong... Are you??
    2. Re:Doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol why do you still use windows? you guys put up with so much shit.

    3. Re:Doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft is well-aware that people hate the forced updates, and further that people will put up with them.

      If you want the automated updates to stop, then you must get a Pro (or higher) license so you can adjust the group policy to set automatic updates to notify.

      Giving "hints" to Microsoft will accomplish absolutely nothing.

    4. Re:Doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or you can just stop the windows update service and delete the service definition in the registry. Been update free for some time now.

    5. Re:Doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because Linux is even shittier in comparison.

    6. Re:Doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They need to add a "No piss-fucking around, lets install these quickly" setting for the bloody updates. Everytime Microsoft "improves" it they make it take twice as long as it used to take to install.

      Plus now it "Gets Ready" about 5 times, "Prepares to Install" about 15 times, "Downloads" with no disk or network I/O about six times, actually downloads twice, "Installing" about seven times, and then it asks to reboot ...

    7. Re:Doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm STOOOOOOOPID and can't learn anything new, and mah gamez!"

      You sound like a 5-year-old who keeps falling off his bike. "STUPID BIKE!" lol

    8. Re:Doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And now you've shown the second reason: Linturds are smug asshats.

    9. Re:Doesn't matter by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      Giving "hints" to Microsoft will accomplish absolutely nothing.

      Indeed.

      Nuke from high orbit - its the only way to be sure!

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    10. Re:Doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Let me tell you one thing sunshine, "Respect is a two way street".

      The way you behave simply gives me no reason to respect you, like at all. People like you who does nothing but sit on their ass wailing and flinging poo at anyone who as much as dares to suggest that much of the problems are self inflicted and can be pretty easily ameliorated does nothing but fill me with contempt.

      I don't care if I piss all over you, because you and spoiled rotten people like you were never going to change anyway. You are too incompetent and too scared of anything different to break out, you just want daddy Microsoft to spoon feed you the same diet you've always had. Turns out that they have no interest in doing that, so now you're throwing a tantrum.

      Also, interesting that you chose the word "smug" as if there would be anything wrong in being "contentedly confident of one's ability", as opposed to cry loudly and continously keep throwing the toys out of the pram.

    11. Re:Doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Hint to MS: I set the computer to "Hibernate" because I was expecting to come back and pick up where I left off *quickly*. I specifically did not want to come back to find "Windows is finishing updates. Do not turn off your PC" for 45 minutes instead, followed by having to recover all of the open files that got trashed.)

      My last Windows reboot plus the mandatory update was so slow, I had to drive in to work to check my email on the computers there.

      It was in the morning on my day off, and I really didn't want to go in, but there was a time critical issue, so I turned on my laptop figuring I would just check my email from home over the VPN.

      Then I saw the dreaded update message.

      After a bit, it was clear the update was taking forever, and even after taking a shower and dressing it was STILL going, so I ended up getting the car out and driving to work.

      We need to treat operating systems like highways - i.e. a public utility - and use eminent domain to make the source code fully owned by the public.

    12. Re: Doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And when it does update, it changes everything back to default. Or just
      Never update and have a bug filled system. Your choice! Thanks Microsoft.

  8. Surprised???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is anyone surprised? No version of Windows has EVER been "ready for prime time." It has always been amateurish and slapped together with duck tape, and always will be, like every piece of software Microsoft has ever made.

    1. Re:Surprised???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And given all that, it's still better than any version of Linux or the crap freeware you can run on Linux.

    2. Re: Surprised???? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Hay, be fair now. Linux is held together with gaffer's tape. Much more expensive than 'duck' tape and it doesn't leave tape residue when you have to untape and retape it, over and over.

      Also: "Now with SystemDee (tm)"

  9. Re:Trump is ready for prison however. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Actual Americans? No, it's the certified brain dead SJW's (like you) that support impeachment.

  10. Microsoft pushing out junk now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you push out the revisions twice a year, somethings will always go wrong for some devices. Given the vast differences in devices and installed software. This ideal of cranking out releases every six months just isn't going to result in a stable platform no matter what Microsoft does. Besides even PC makers are dropping support early for releases officially. Even though Microsoft will gladly install it on your PC no matter what.

    1. Re:Microsoft pushing out junk now by Tough+Love · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When you push out the revisions twice a year, somethings will always go wrong for some devices.

      Riddle me this: how does Linux manage to push out revisions at more than ten times that rate while almost never regressing on any device? Not to mention that Linux tends to support devices forever, unlike Windows.

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    2. Re: Microsoft pushing out junk now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Black magic. No other answer will be accepted.

    3. Re:Microsoft pushing out junk now by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      When you push out the revisions twice a year, somethings will always go wrong for some devices.

      Riddle me this: how does Linux manage to push out revisions at more than ten times that rate while almost never regressing on any device? Not to mention that Linux tends to support devices forever, unlike Windows.

      Exactly, even though My Linux and MacOS machines let me decide when to run updates, I could let them auto-update. I have had exactly one Mac update that made the computer a little flakey - but still functional - and no problems with any Linux updates

      Meanwhile BOHICA Microsoft bitches something up with each W10 update.

      I guess the fans can console themselves with the knowledge of their beloved large installed user base when their machine BSODs, loses half it's drivers, or doesn't boot after an update

      Security through inoperability..

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    4. Re:Microsoft pushing out junk now by walllaby · · Score: 0

      I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

    5. Re:Microsoft pushing out junk now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linux itself still works on 386 processors (as far as I know), but I don't think any of the bigger distros support even the first generation Pentiums anymore.

      Debian dropped support for the 486 in 2014 (Squeeze). Intel stopped manufacturing the 80486 in 2007. That's seven year old hardware (with a 18 year long lifespan, mind you).

    6. Re:Microsoft pushing out junk now by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Linux itself still works on 386 processors (as far as I know)

      The mainline Linux kernel no longer supports the 386, the architecture was removed in at kernel 3.8 in 2012. However, nothing stops you from building a 386 kernel from source for 3.7 or earlier. These are capable kernels, after all most of modern big tech was built on these. You are highly unlikely to hit any kernel bugs in a stable kernel from that era. If you want to support newer hardware that those older kernels do not know about, or close the latest security holes, you should probably be using a more recent processor.

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      When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
  11. Windows must stop being yet another Linux distro by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 2

    Windows used to be great when it had actual versions and you could install it and forget it for years. Now, with rolling releases, you're playing a roulette with your data and applications every six months. Luckily 7 and 8.1 are still supported and once they Microsoft abandons them, I will update the PCs I'm responsible for to Windows 10 LTSB Enterprise - the last remaining sensible Windows ... distribution. Yes, nowadays we have actual Windows distributions.

  12. Hell, Windows 7 isn't even ready 4 primetime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buggiest P.O.S. operating system I've ever used.

  13. Re:Windows must stop being yet another Linux distr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I think I see where you're going here. Basically you're predicting that 2019 will be the year of Windows 10 (1803) on the Desktop? :)

  14. We have dozens of Dell Precision laptops... by snapsnap · · Score: 2

    that show the Windows loading screen and then a blank screen after this upgrade. We have Dell's highest level of support, and they don't even have a solution other than to reformat and reinstall Windows. It's not just not ready for prime time. It's simply not ready.

    1. Re:We have dozens of Dell Precision laptops... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      that show the Windows loading screen and then a blank screen after this upgrade. We have Dell's highest level of support, and they don't even have a solution other than to reformat and reinstall Windows. It's not just not ready for prime time. It's simply not ready.

      But you have to admit they were really secure after that update.

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  15. Yes, Windows 10 is annoying by GoTeam · · Score: 1

    Sure, it is very annoying. The thing is, you learn to deal with it. My Windows 10 does not install updates until I allow it to. You can work around the problems. Going back to Windows 7 is not the answer. Windows 7 was great, but people still bitched about it for a couple years after it came out claiming they'd never quit using Windows XP. In my job I have to work with Windows, LINUX, and macOS. I don't bitch about any of them because that won't solve anything. I just learn how to deal with the stupid crap that each OS throws at me. Open tickets with the company that makes the OS when you find an issue. Either they'll fix it or they won't. If they don't, find your own workaround and get on with your life. I won't install 1803 until I feel its stable. If you're still pissed off, give yourself a hug... it might help.

    1. Re:Yes, Windows 10 is annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Talk about bowing to mediocrity! I convinced some of my colleagues to switch to Linux and now there is less hate in the room, _that_ solves things. Also they had exactly the same argument you will likely have "But my softwares i needs them and they only run on windows", that is until they switched and suddenly those pieces of software didn't seem as important as they were.

    2. Re:Yes, Windows 10 is annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my job I have to work with Windows, LINUX, and macOS. I don't bitch about any of them because that won't solve anything.

      You do realise you are bitching and moaning about not bitching and moaning, FWIW I've found people who actually try to move away from windows absolutely can, no need to put up with it. Push for it and people will follow you, if something needs windows find a way to not use it.

    3. Re:Yes, Windows 10 is annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Sure, getting ass-raped is annoying. The thing is, you learn to deal with it. You can work around the problems of being ass-raped. Going back to not being ass-raped is not the answer. Not being ass-raped was great, but people still bitched about it. In my job, I have to work with ass-rapists, LINUX and macOS. I don't bitch about any of them because that won't solve anything. i just learn how to deal with the stupid crap that each OS throws at me in between ass-rapings. Open tickets with the company that provides the ass-rapists when you find you aren't being ass-raped enough. Either they'll fix it or they won't. If they don't, find your own ass-rapist and get on with your life. If you're still pissed off, ass rape yourself... it might help you get used to it.

    4. Re: Yes, Windows 10 is annoying by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      When you run real business software that only has Windows clients, and you want to just freeze your workstations in place because they are just data appliances, old Windows boxes make sense.

      For your ego box in your 2 bedroom apartment (now that you don't live in a dorm anymore) whatever OS suits you is fine. You're just browsing and playing games, not trying to find out how many p/n 10040-7345 cables are in stock (or pulling up a BOM to determine how soon production can make more) while a customer waits on the phone.

    5. Re:Yes, Windows 10 is annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +5 funny.

    6. Re: Yes, Windows 10 is annoying by r1348 · · Score: 1

      I do all of that - through a browser. In the era of cloud OSes are becoming irrelevant.

    7. Re:Yes, Windows 10 is annoying by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      Sure, it is very annoying. The thing is, you learn to deal with it. My Windows 10 does not install updates until I allow it to. You can work around the problems. Going back to Windows 7 is not the answer. Windows 7 was great, but people still bitched about it for a couple years after it came out claiming they'd never quit using Windows XP. In my job I have to work with Windows, LINUX, and macOS. I don't bitch about any of them because that won't solve anything. I just learn how to deal with the stupid crap that each OS throws at me. Open tickets with the company that makes the OS when you find an issue. Either they'll fix it or they won't. If they don't, find your own workaround and get on with your life. I won't install 1803 until I feel its stable. If you're still pissed off, give yourself a hug... it might help.

      Ladies and gentlemen, we have here the very definition of Stockholm syndrome. The slave being punished and beaten daily but has learned to love his tormentors, perhaps even worship them, because ....... well, Stockholm syndrome.

      Meanwhile, have fun with that. You are still in the age where getting your computer to simply work is your version of a participation trophy. Yay for you! You're needing that hug, man,

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    8. Re:Yes, Windows 10 is annoying by GoTeam · · Score: 1

      It seems like you were unable to read past the 14th word I wrote. You may need to adjust your screes size or locate the scroll bar. Anyone who works on systems for any period of time knows that each OS has its pain points. I pointed out that I was able to mitigate the main complaints with Windows 10 and I made it work for the employees here. No getting beaten daily. No random reboots. No unplanned for UI changes. The same goes for macOS, LINUX, and older systems like HPUX and tru64. You find the pain points and mitigate them. I'm happy and the other employees are happy. Seems to work for us.

    9. Re:Yes, Windows 10 is annoying by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      It seems like you were unable to read past the 14th word I wrote. You may need to adjust your screes size or locate the scroll bar. Anyone who works on systems for any period of time knows that each OS has its pain points. I pointed out that I was able to mitigate the main complaints with Windows 10 and I made it work for the employees here. No getting beaten daily. No random reboots. No unplanned for UI changes. The same goes for macOS, LINUX, and older systems like HPUX and tru64. You find the pain points and mitigate them. I'm happy and the other employees are happy. Seems to work for us.

      Yes - I understand that some folks have learned to work with Lucas Electric systems on old Sports cars. Your mitigation and fussing and farting to make W10 "operable" then defending it as "learning to deal with it" then claiming that those who don't share your views "need a hug" - I stand on my point, You are suffering from Stockholm syndrome. If you believe that Windows 10 is every bit as trouble free as those other OS', you are suffering from Stockholm syndrome .

      You are also proving that you will put up with whatever amount of shit Microsoft will give you. A subset of Stockholm syndrome.

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    10. Re:Yes, Windows 10 is annoying by GoTeam · · Score: 1

      I doubt we're going to agree. You've got your point of view and it works for you, so that's great. My point of view is that the world is not made especially for me. Life is great, but it requires adjustments to really enjoy it. That works for me. You can go out and find that OS that is built perfectly for you. You'll likely have to build or modify your own. If that brings you joy, go forward with joy in your heart.

  16. Just this verson? by quonset · · Score: 1

    Windows 10 as a whole isn't ready for prime time. It's a huge leap backwards in usability with more eye candy than a strip club.

    It's almost as if the developers who wrote this steaming pile have no idea what they're doing.

    1. Re:Just this verson? by GrumpySteen · · Score: 3, Funny

      Windows 10 as a whole isn't ready for prime time. It's a huge leap backwards in usability with more eye candy than a strip club.

      It also offers access to a much wider variety of viruses than a strip club.

    2. Re:Just this verson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What eye candy? UI is made of four colours, even my C64 and Windows 3.0 had more intuitive and better looking user interface.

    3. Re:Just this verson? by Nkwe · · Score: 1

      Windows 10 as a whole isn't ready for prime time. It's a huge leap backwards in usability with more eye candy than a strip club.

      I think maybe we go to different strip clubs.

    4. Re:Just this verson? by BLToday · · Score: 1

      Windows 10 as a whole isn't ready for prime time. It's a huge leap backwards in usability with more eye candy than a strip club.

      I think maybe we go to different strip clubs.

      He goes to the strip clubs for the blind.

    5. Re:Just this verson? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [...] It's a huge leap backwards in usability with more eye candy than a strip club. [...]

      'Eye-candy' that is plus-sized is NOT 'eye-candy'. What galaxy are you from?

  17. Software as a Service doesn't work for OSes. by devslash0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd bet that having one-os-to-rule-them-all and OS as a Service are the ideas to which Microsoft execs are waxing their carrots to every day. Unfortunately, this model doesn't work for operating systems which are not like any other software.

    I expect my OS to be an embodiment of stability and security. Software that I can trust won't go down even if every other process in the system decided to go tits up. Most of all, however, I expect to be in full control of it. It shouldn't make the faintest ping (fart) unless I ask it to.

    Windows is the complete opposite. It runs a ton of of things without your permission, spies on you, reconfigures your system to its liking whenever it so pleases (hello system services) and dictates when and if at all you can shut it down.

    This is an absolute lack of respect for your will and time. I do not understand how can anyone hope to build a stable business on Windows.

    1. Re:Software as a Service doesn't work for OSes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Microsoft's biggest failure is not doing what would be very simply and satisfy the majority of users complaining about stability. They could offer Windows 10 Home Long Term Servicing Branch, as they offer Windows 10 Enterprise Long Term Servicing Branch.
      Instead, they falsely insist we all need 2 major upgrades each year that continuously break systems. They also put themselves to the trouble of creating numerous features that almost nobody uses. If Nadella can't see this as a problem, then he should come down from on high in "the cloud" to see a few of the problems normal mortals face here on earth.

    2. Re:Software as a Service doesn't work for OSes. by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, this model doesn't work for operating systems which are not like any other software

      Of course it does. This model is not very different from Linux which also goes through continuous rolling updates and feature movements everytime you run apt update && apt upgrade

      What doesn't work is having absolutely zero frigging quality control, focusing your coding efforts on irrelevant shit like the colour of the UI rather than how the OS works, and then pushing out software to meet a deadline even when your foolish beta testers tell you your software isn't even beta quality much less ready for release.

    3. Re:Software as a Service doesn't work for OSes. by Required+Snark · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Monopolies always end up with a rent-not-buy model. There is even a term for this: rent seeking behavior.

      Collecting rent makes a lot more money in the long run and is a very natural extension of monopoly power. It also leads to lower value for renters and larger profits for the landlords, or SAS providers in this case. Plus market stagnation.

      Welcome to the USA in the 21st century. You have no viable choices and you've been commodifed.

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    4. Re:Software as a Service doesn't work for OSes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the only people that can build a business on windows is those charged with maintaining it or fixing it when it breaks.

      but as microsoft continues down this nightmarish road, fewer and fewer households and businesses will use it... so it won't be a 'stable business' for much longer.

      and then microsoft will go by way of the cable companies. eyeing lower viewership (user base) and lower profits, they'll jack up the price (including turning it into a subscription model. and in microsoft's case that is already happening with some features moved to 'enterprise' edition) instead of actually improving the product to regain those lost customers.

    5. Re:Software as a Service doesn't work for OSes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft's biggest failure is not doing what would be very simply and satisfy the majority of users complaining about stability. They could offer Windows 10 Home Long Term Servicing Branch, as they offer Windows 10 Enterprise Long Term Servicing Branch.
      Instead, they falsely insist we all need 2 major upgrades each year that continuously break systems. They also put themselves to the trouble of creating numerous features that almost nobody uses. If Nadella can't see this as a problem, then he should come down from on high in "the cloud" to see a few of the problems normal mortals face here on earth.

      Don't be stupid. If they let the riff raff run the good (for certain values of the word "good") shit, who would they get to be the beta (and alpha) testers? Face it, you're doing their work for them finding the bugs, for a "free" as in herpes copy of Windows.

    6. Re:Software as a Service doesn't work for OSes. by danomac · · Score: 1

      Microsoft has beta testers? I find that hard to believe...

    7. Re:Software as a Service doesn't work for OSes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Microsoft's biggest failure is not doing what would be very simply and satisfy the majority of users complaining about stability.

      You clearly cannot spot a conspiracy when it is staring you in the face.

      Linux has learned from the fate of Nokia, and some Linux users have made it to high places in MS, The ship is now holed below the waterline, and steering towards the icebergs.

      Expect mass migration away from Seattle. Rats have no need of email.

      Software as a Service doesn't work for OSes.
      Windows doesn't work as an OS.
      FTFY.

    8. Re:Software as a Service doesn't work for OSes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This model is not very different from Linux which also goes through continuous rolling updates and feature movements everytime you run apt update && apt upgrade

      That depends on the distro. Debian stable patches vulnerabilities and leaves feature upgrades for the next major release. You get a 1 year time window for choosing your own moment to upgrade to new features.

    9. Re:Software as a Service doesn't work for OSes. by Gonoff · · Score: 1

      Microsoft has beta testers? I find that hard to believe...

      Their beta testers are all the people "out there" with MS software on their computers.

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  18. Microsoft should be forced to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Release versions of Windows 10 that you can pernemently disable updates and telemetry. I would support legal action if necessary. Same goes with other apps and oses that do the same.

  19. This is great news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The sooner Microsoft bricks the globe's computers the sooner they can die formally.

    What a piece of shit legacy monolith. Good riddance.

  20. Excel bug will not save any old .XLS files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Accounting department has some reference file created way back and since 1803 they are untouchable. You cannot save them anymore excel just quits on you.
    Do not forget about the new Keyboard driver introduction that randomly enable or disable the num lock .

    1. Re:Excel bug will not save any old .XLS files by LVSlushdat · · Score: 4, Informative

      Dunno WHY I'm replying to an AC, but in the case of said XLS that Windows has decided it doesn't want to handle anymore, you might try LibreOffice. I deal with some small businesses that, for one reason or another, have to continue to use Windows/Office. One of them a while back had an Excel spreadsheet that was older than the hills, and the Office2013 installed on the machine in question, did not like this spreadsheet AT ALL.. Since I only use Linux/Opensource stuff on my personal systems, I decided to copy the xls to a memstick and tried opening/saving in LibreOffice 6.. Was able to open/modify/save said xls just fine, and as a bonus, WHATever Office didnt like about the xls before, once LibreOffice did its thing, the "fixed" xls was now working fine under Office... Go figure..

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    2. Re:Excel bug will not save any old .XLS files by BLToday · · Score: 1

      Use Google Sheets and Libre Office to load old XLS files. Somewhere in the last few versions of Office loading old XLS has been problematic.

    3. Re:Excel bug will not save any old .XLS files by Calydor · · Score: 1

      At a guess it must have been some long deprecated setting or code snippet which Office2013 doesn't know ever existed and craps its pants over, but LibreOffice knows what it was SUPPOSED to do and saves to however it's done now.

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    4. Re:Excel bug will not save any old .XLS files by labnet · · Score: 1

      I keep trying to get people to use Libre, but within a day there is always whining about incompatibilities. So paying the micro$oft tax is cheaper than the productivity loss.

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  21. Windows 10 is an abomination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Windows 10 is simply a dreadful interface. The single worst interface I have ever seen on any computing device ever.

    It's not fit for purpose... never mind prime time.

    Windows 95 had a better GUI than 10.

    1. Re:Windows 10 is an abomination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows 10 is simply a dreadful interface. The single worst interface I have ever seen on any computing device ever.

      It's not fit for purpose... never mind prime time.

      Windows 95 had a better GUI than 10.

      They made how many billions off of it's predecessors already? They don't care. It would take a complete re-write to compete with Linux now.

  22. I have no Windows 10 issues at all by magzteel · · Score: 1

    I use it every day with no issues. I don't like the design of some things but overall the OS has been very stable.

    1. Re:I have no Windows 10 issues at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Me neither. When I first installed it (during the 'get it free' era), it suddenly maxed my 'net connection; after 15 minutes or so of continuous, unauthorized, unexplained, massive net traffic, I powered the system down. I then scrubbed the drive and reinstalled Windows 7 from backup (I use commercial CAD software, gotta have Windows, no choice. 7 works fine, no changes required minimum of newly undiscoverable UI BS ).

      I have no problems with W10 and don't foresee having any until such time as i am forced to install it.

    2. Re:I have no Windows 10 issues at all by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Same here, but: a) I consider myself quite lucky, and b) I postpone feature updates for as long as I can so the bugs are sorted out by those poor people with Windows 10 home before they get to me.

      #privilage.

  23. The Only Things Worse Than Running Windows Is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Not running Windows!

    HEAD! EXPLODES!

  24. Same (slackware 1.02 in 1994 onward) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup, me too (since Slackware 1.02 in 1994 - weak in hardware/software but was a baby only), then 1999 Redhat (better but still weak on BOTH fronts noted (better in hardware range though)) & Kubuntu in 2010 (was CLOSE but stlll "no cigar" yet) - not now though imo (purely arbitrary personal as is your opinion).

    Sounds as IF you know more though having "stuck it out" vs. being like me & leaving/coming back etc. for decades.

    ON USING Kubuntu/KDE:

    It's been REALLY good to me (stable vs. how it collapsed on me in 2010, a bad patch made it "shit the bed" then & that's what drove me from it then truth be told).

    SOMETIMES?

    I get this periodic "lag" around 2x a day (attributing it to either auto-update checks, some "telemetry" UBUNTU does (it does but I opted out of it via new MINIMAL install Kubuntu has that I like (I add things as I need later instead)) - SO, that said, can YOU shed some light on WHAT THAT MAY BE? It may be DNSCrypt I use (systemlog shows it unable to start & I think systemd is trying to KICK IT ON again) OR ext4 journalling filesystem idiosyncracies (like cache flush).... I dunno.

    ON DEVELOPMENT under Kubuntu/KDE:

    I almost went Qt on the program I put up a link to of mine I ported but DECIDED on GTK3 but a recompile & retargetting wouldn't be much difficulty IF needed - so far, it's not AFAIK!

    QUESTION/IMPORTANT: Does it MATTER or ADVERSELY AFFECT ANYTHING if I do 1 or the other (Qt vs. GTK) & how so...?

    APK

    P.S.=> THANKS MUCH FOR FEEDBACK (especially when you've been @ THAT side of things longer than I on Linux (new to development in it but I had an EASY port from Delphi to FreePascal ObjectPascal though))... apk

  25. Re:Trump is ready for prison however. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Idiot AC. Forty two percent support impeachment; but then 47% say they will not support anyone who votes for impeachment. So more people will punish politicians who support impeachment as compared to people who support impeachment. Not a winning hand - but you go ahead and run on that!

  26. It’s not all bad, GeForce Experience works n by BLToday · · Score: 1

    For over a year, GeForce Experience crashes if it’s not the first application I loaded. But now VirtualBox doesn’t work and new installation keeps failing. So double win for me. Less work and more play. SMH

  27. Computer games work by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    GeForce Experience updates.
    Kaspersky anti virus works.
    Windows 10 is ready.

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    1. Re:Computer games work by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Kaspersky anti virus works.

      AVPoo? It was totally awesome when it first came out, but these days it's the biggest turd in AV.

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  28. Re: You're a bit late (they're there now)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wasn't talking to you and I don't recall asking for your input. Therefore, you are actually stalking me, and your posts aren't welcome.

  29. Truth's you FEAR me advertiser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You advertisers FEAR my hosts program blocking ads that infect/track/slow us & you try CENSORSHIP hiding my posts downmodbombing 'em (I run you DRY of 'em in the end every single time)!!

    * You'll ALWAYS fail vs. me & you know it - give up - you have NO POWER over me (you know - the thing "your kind" CRAVES because you've always been powerless whimps, lol)

    (HOWEVER - I quite CLEARLY have POWER over you - FEAR, proven by you STALKING ME constantly via your UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts proving you DO indeed, FEAR me...)

    MORE PROOF that "your kind" FEARS my program AND me:

    You VAINLY tried to "downmod hide" THIS post last time I posted it https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    (No matter - I nullify your MULTIPLE SOCKPUPPET farmed "downmodpoint" EFFETE useless 'weapon' EASILY since I have UNLIMITED posting ability vs. most AC posters - you LOSE again as ALWAYS as I run you DRY of your "downmodpoints" inevitably by REPOSTING... lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> THANK YOU Jesus for keeping WEEZILS like him on the low end of the food chain since God HELP us if "your kind" (the 'not-men' UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous DO-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" JEALOUS "Lil' Jowies" (lol) in LIFE) ever DO get power - you're the WRONG KIND to have it - as you ABUSE it since you've NEVER had it or responsibility that COMES w/ it & you never will & you KNOW it (vainly seeking it online & there you FAIL too & I'm the PROOF thereof))... apk

    1. Re:Truth's you FEAR me advertiser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One thing I like about Slashdot is that there are some wonderful people who post here. People who take your spam, insults and threats and who respond with genuine recommendations that you seek help. Seeing another human being in distress is enough cause for them to want to help.

      Characterising people like that as 'advertisers' is just one technique in a suite of similar cognitive patterns that you use to ignore information that is too difficult to deal with.

      You very clearly cannot deal with criticism on any level. you are never wrong (except when you have already changed and can refer to your previous state). You are better than everyone else. No-one may criticise what you say unless they meet some standard you set.

      The only consistent failure is yours. For nearly 3 decades you've been told much he same thing in various forums and communities. Were they all advertisers. Such a coincidence. Why aren't there similar patterns of interactions on the forums of people who write software that is far more popular and far more effective at stopping ads?

      No one 'fears' you. You are powerless and ineffectual. Your spamming, here, caused OrangeTide to stop using your product. One of the few people who do and your behaviour drove them away.

      Well done.

      Did you even apologise? Acknowledge their complaint?

      APK. NPD makes it impossible to accept criticism, external or internal. Without being able to identify faults, there is no way to grow. Sound familir?

  30. They broke calculator in a previous update by PrimaryConsult · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wasn't the only one, but after a recent large update, no one at work had a functioning windows calculator - it was gone from the start menu, and running calc.exe resulted in nothing. I thought our IT department had f-'d up, but no, I saw the same complaints online. How do you break calculator??

    If anyone is wondering the fix is some sort of powershell command to remove the "windows feature" of calculator, then re-add it from the Windows Store. Obviously only works for those with admin rights to their machine...

    But yeah. What next, break paint and notepad??

    1. Re:They broke calculator in a previous update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They broke paint a while ago, you just didn't notice. Likewise, they decided it should no longer be part of windows and should be delivered through the app store.

    2. Re:They broke calculator in a previous update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if Visicalc still runs.

    3. Re:They broke calculator in a previous update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had the opposite problem. I didn't realize that something had reenabled the prefetch service and one of the things it does is keep calculator constantly running in the background.

    4. Re:They broke calculator in a previous update by PrimaryConsult · · Score: 1

      I wonder if that's a related issue, I never checked to see if it was already running. And who the hell wants it running in the background? It's a 400kb exe, it loads instantly!

    5. Re:They broke calculator in a previous update by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      I still have paint as an desktop app.

  31. "not a typo" = [sic] by PJ6 · · Score: 1
  32. Actually I looked up its meaning... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I am because of you" or "humanity" is what I found in Swahili which does explain what I've always called Linux: A socio-technological phenomenon that proves folks the world over CAN work together & produce something cool + useful that works...

    * "I am, because you are"

    APK

    P.S.=> Thus, today's NOT a wasted day - I learned a NEW THING & thanks to you (ya bullshitter, lol)... apk

  33. Windows 10 - buggy and half-finished by assholes by brxndxn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More than any other OS, I would say Windows 10 has a buggy and half-finished feel to it. The way it puts 'unidentified' SID's all through the registry - and Microsoft says you can ignore the numerous errors in the system logs.. or the way it always seems to decide to interrupt your work and install gigabytes of updates - and keep extra gigabytes of 'backups' in the windows.old folder..

    I swear the biggest problem is people not holding Microsoft accountable enough. Microsoft should be getting their asses sued off by everyone and their mother. Whether it's 'software as a service' or not, they should not be able to override user preferences with impunity - or shut down industrial or medical systems because they miscalculated on an update. It's one thing if they install updates automatically - it's a totally different thing if someone disables those updates and Microsoft overrides it and returns all user settings back to their default every update. Or, if Microsoft just decides they're entitled to all of your screenshots, keystrokes, and contacts list.

    Besides the bugs, the GUI is inconsistent and has shitty performance. It feels like you're opening a web page browser window when you navigate any of the new style of menu. There are at least 3 different distinct styles of menus and certain settings are in some or all of them. For example, there are mouse settings in the old style control panel and the new settings menu - and they aren't even the same settings - so you have to go to both.

    It cannot get the resolution perspective correct in any manner.. And, if you set it the way you want, it might be returned to shit after a reboot - or you plug in a different monitor - or you remote desktop from a 4k monitor on a tablet that THEY designed. The fonts are hard to read no matter what - unless you have an old shitty low resolution monitor. Also, updates cause you to lose settings.. like you cannot make fonts bold in the menus after the latest Windows update.

    Windows 10 forgets and re-arranges user settings. Did you move the 'documents' folder? Windows 10 might just decide to delete wherever you moved it to and move them back. If you use OneDrive, plan on re-installing at least once a month.

    The snipping tool is a big flaming piece of shit. If you capture a screenshot and then click 'new' screenshot, your existing screenshot right in front of you disappears.. So you can't just have multiple screenshots sitting on your screen at the same time - unless you take the time to save each one. Fuck that. Nothing should ever delete your existing work just because you clicked 'new.' Instead, it should open in a NEW window and keep your existing one.

    The way they install updates as if they are entitled to controlling you is unacceptable. Everything about it is the opposite of common sense. For example, updates typically install when you want to turn off your laptop and take it home - nope.. sorry.. you gotta fucking wait. Don't turn off your computer or we'll break it. Have a laptop you use only once or twice a week? It'll decide to waste your battery doing a bunch of bullshit rather than just let you get your work done. I know it's not supposed to interrupt you in the middle of anything - but I have had it interrupt me in the middle of playing a PC game against friends. WHAT THE FUCK.

    I use it since I have to support it (secondary to Mac OSX). It pisses me off every day. No one on the Windows 10 team should feel proud of the shit they help create. It's taking computing in the wrong direction. It's making computing less reliable. The philosophy of Windows 10 is shit. The fundamental design is shit. The people that work on it are shitty people. The people that stick up for it are ineffective people who have never experienced software that was designed well.

    The really sad thing is that almost all of it could be fixed by doing the following:
    1. Allow the user to have control over his or her computer again
    2. Allow the user to HAVE CONTROL OVER HIS OR HER COMPUTER AGAIN
    3. FUCKING ALLOW THE USER TO BE IN CONTROL

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    --- We need more Ron Paul!
  34. Registered /.ers disagree w/ you stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    I do use APK's host file on all my systems at home by OrangeTide December 01 2017

    (APK) is still right a hosts file really does work. It even blocked a some of the video ads that were inserted into a stream OrangeTide February 10 2016

    I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

    * Best part = Linux 64-bit model's faster/more efficient (2x the work in 1/2 the time)

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject: You don't speak for everyone & were speaking of me you that stalks me... apk

  35. Re:Windows must stop being yet another Linux distr by rtb61 · · Score: 1

    I see you left out the bit where to avoid being fucked over by M$, crappy updates, and privacy invasion, you have to pay $7 per month for the rest of your life and absolutely 100% guaranteed to rise far faster than the inflation rate, protection and extortion fee, stop paying and they kill your box. Ahh windows anal probe 10 delivering exactly what everyone warned M$ would deliver, renting access to your own computer. Refuse to pay and the shit version of windows is all they will sell you, still demand that you pay for it. What a piece of shit company, ESAD M$ (that would be eat yourself M$).

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    Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
  36. Says the UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Yet again stalking me OFF TOPIC yet again - save your wannabe "SiDeWaLk-ShRiNk of /." bs & NPD "HOWL of INJURED "ne'er-do-wells"" crap too - you've got DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR that make you somehow, in your deluded mind, you're qualified to JUDGE anyone, you jackass.

    Do you have a degree in psychiatry & are you licensed for it? Have you performed a formal examination of myself to make your "snap prognosis" or "diagnosis" scumbag? No.

    You're libeling me (goldwater).

    * Sounds like you've been STALKING me for a LONG time & are NOT telling it how it really is (as usual, with SUCH "integrity" (not) you display NOT STANDING BEHIND YOUR BS WORDS identifying yourself too - Such "courage" (not)).

    THREATS? Do you have ANY IDEA what kind I've gotten?? THREATS to KILL me (try it & it'll be the LAST thing the moron who does ever does), calling me a PEDO (I am not) etc. - et al!

    (Everyone's SEEN what "your kind", the 'not-men' slinking WEEZILS do my way so do you REALLY think you're "fooling anyone" but yourself? Please, lol...).

    Face facts: Nothing YOU CAN DO can stop ME from doing as I please - accept that. You're powerless vs. me (especially your 'downmod bombings' I nullify w/ ease & run you DRY of your "downmodpoints" you SOCKPUPPET farm here (& don't even TRY tell me it doesn't go on-> Zontar The Mindless = TrollingForHostsFiles https://slashdot.org/comments.... SPECIFICALLY to harass me with... ))

    APK

    P.S.=> I must've REALLY "busted you up" @ SOME POINT that you WASTE SO MUCH TIME (in your wasted life) that you STALK me so much (I take heart in that as it shows itself & that I really "got to you" when you SHOULD blame yourself - I don't start shit, but I finish it (especially SHIT like you, inevitably))... apk

    1. Re:Says the UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stalking is illegal and covered by many laws in different states, territories and nations. If this were stalking, you could cite the relevant law that I am breaking. If this were stalking, you could report my behaviour to the owners of this site or even your local law enforcement.

      It's not stalking. You haven't reported my behaviour because you'd be treated like a crank. Probably sent away and told to record anything you thought was stalking.

      You complain that I am offtopic, but ignore (or more usually attack) anyone who asks you to stop spamming in threads that have nothing to do with your ad.

      You complain of both stalking and being offtopic, yet you quote arguments with Zontar from 4 years ago. You lack the integrity to even recognise the double standard.

      are you licensed for it

      No. It's an opinion. One I back with reason and argument. One I am happy to discuss. Do you have a criticism of my reasoning, or are you simply going to engage in your usual ad hominems?

      If it walks like a duck, 'quacks' like a duck and looks like a duck, I don't need to be an ornithologist to opine that I'm observing a duck. Unless you have something better than your usual whining, I'll continue to observe that your behaviour is consistent with someone with NPD. That you have no stronger argument than to attack me, I'll accept that as tacit agreement. Thank you.

      You're libeling me

      Really. Well, then you'd better report me and have me arrested and tried. No? Do you, perhaps, realise that you're full of shit?

      ... integrty ... courage ...

      Says the man who cannot accept any criticism.

      I've been on Slashdot since the early 00s. I saw you arrive, was surprised at your behaviour. I've tried to engage you several times over the years. On one occasion you kept harping on about 'anonymous users' and knowing that some people find social interaction a challenge, I offered to identify the anonymous posts that were mine. I did so out of trust and a sincere hope to assist in communication. All you did was use that to attack me.

      I have, since then, come across links to your interaction on other sites and observed your behaviour, here, on Slashdot.

      The most charitable explanation is that you have NPD. If you don't, then you're simply a self obsessed, empathically retarded asshole with a persecution complex, an inability to deal with criticism and some significant cognitive defects.

      Your call.

      ... threats...

      Yes. You have made threats. And rather than acknowledge that you ranted about being threatened. Typical of NPD. You are incapable of admitting fault or accepting responsibility for your own actions. Everything is someone else's fault. Don't like my opinion? Disprove it. Argue against it. But you won't and can't. Instead you'll attack me. Claim I can't have an opinion because I'm not qualified - never mind your claims regarding security with neither qualifications nor experience in the security field. Hypocrite.

      ...powerless ...

      Interesting you should raise that. I've no illusions about what I can or cannot do. I cannot stop you posting. Cannot make you look at yourself. Cannot even get you to read what I write. You seem to be under the illustion that spamming forums is wanted; is going to get more people to download your software or is some battle against the forces of evil.

      Tell me, how many people use your software? Not total downloads. Hell I downloaded the POS to see what it was like, years ago. I can suggest metrics that would allow you to assess actual user-base, but I'll let you pick the metric you use. You are tracking users, aren't you? Not just total downloads?

      ...blah blah blah [rant about persecution and what a hero

    2. Re: Says the UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmmmm, someone hand this man a dictionary.

  37. Re:Windows 10 - buggy and half-finished by asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree with you.

    But most of what you said could also be said of any Microsoft operating system after Windows XP, especially the atrocious Windows 7.

  38. I long ago spoke to local law enforcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Since you won't tell me your REAL name (or your FAKE one you use on /. yet STALK me as AC 'brave guy' w/ NO integrity not standing behind your words identifying yourself OR using your registered account you ADMIT having here (fake name, & probably SEVERAL SOCKPUPPET ACCOUNTS you use)) how CAN I report you? Are you stupid?? Obviously you are - As you STALK me by unidentifiable anonymous posts!

    I was told to record WHEN you do by them.

    This happened LONG ago & I've done recording of each occurence (since DICE owned /. in fact + I spoke to their personnel about it too).

    Your opinion comes from a cowardly little bastard in yourself stalking me & hiding from me - that's fact, not just opinion.

    WHAT THREAT HAVE I MADE & TO WHOM? Some FAKE NAME for a FAKE LIE of a "so-called 'life'" that's WASTED LIKE YOURS IS by you STALKING ME by ANONYMOUS posts? CLUE: They do NOT qualify as PEOPLE dummy - & I never do so UNLESS THREATENED or STALKED CONSTANTLY (as you do me) 1st.

    * Make me laugh more, loser... who are you trying to fool? Yourself?? You're doing a good job there but you don't fool myself OR anyone else.

    APK

    P.S.=> I do have CONTROL over MY behavior & I'll continue doing what I do, no change & I CONTROL YOU - FEAR - you fear posting using your FAKE NAME online even, lol, & instead STALK ME by anonymous - such "integrity" (not) & "bravery" (especially not that) & willingness to "stand behind your words" (you don't & hide from me) - grow up, loser - HOW BADLY did I floor you in some tech debate that your PSYCHO ASS is still "butthurt" over it, eh? It's obvious that's the case... apk

    1. Re: I long ago spoke to local law enforcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Slashdot logs IP addresses, which they almost certainly do, law enforcement could request the IP address of a stalker or someone else breaking laws here. With that information, law enforcement can then request the user's ISP to disclose which subscriber was using the IP address at the time the post was made. If you are knowledgeable on security, you should be well aware of this.

      However, you know that your allegations of stalking are baseless. Additionally, the AC you're replying to is in Sydney, Australia. He has said so in other posts. His writing style is recognizable, including how he spells words, and the use of the NPD acronym. It would be harder to get an Australian ISP to comply with requests from US law enforcement than if the AC was posting from a US ISP. However, if the alleged crimes are serious enough, international treaties can still apply. However, your allegations of stalking are so flimsy that it's highly unlikely law enforcement would pursue this matter at all, let alone request the cooperation of a foreign ISP.

      You'd have a much stronger case for harassment if this user followed you to other websites or contacted you by other means. However, the only such allegation I've seen you make of such behavior is against Zontar, who openly admits he once mailed you a postcard with a reasonably polite message. You are alleging that users are stalking you on this website by making anonymous replies to your AC posts. That's frivolous and you know it. That's no more stalking than looking up the posting history of a logged-in user and replying to one of his or her posts in another article.

      Your behavior is outlandish and unreasonable. You are projecting your own behavior onto others. Your actions are consistent with serious mental illness.

      If mental illness is, indeed, responsible for your behavior here, reasonable people would not hold that against you. You make light of mental illness, labeling people "mental loons" when they criticize you. However, mental illness is not a joking matter and not something to ridicule. If your behavior is due to mental illness, that's not actually your fault. For your sake, you would need to be treated, and it would certainly improve your quality of life. I'd say your actions would be forgivable, but this wouldn't even be a matter of forgiveness because that would imply intentional wrongdoing that's inconsistent with serious mental illness. However, if you're not mentally ill, then your actions are altogether reprehensible and they would speak volumes about your lack of character.

    2. Re: I long ago spoke to local law enforcement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, wholeheartedly, with the A/C, above.

      I'm sincere in my suggestion that you seek an evaluation. Your behaviour is so consistent over so many years that you look as though you are unable to change it. Whatever the root of that, it's preventing you from making the connections and developing the relationships you need - indeed, that every person needs.

      I'm not angry, upset or fearful of you. I'd genuinely like to see you happier and healthier. I think you'd have a lot better quality of life and be a welcome member of many communities if you could address some of the issues that have plagued your interactions with others.

      But at the same time, your behaviour is not acceptable. Ideally, I would have liked to have seen you respond to constructive criticism, but absent that, it's important to maintaining community standards to call out unacceptable behaviour, even if the person doesn't or cannot stop. In part, I object because your actions are objectionable, not out of a realistic hope that you might change - although, who knows, the horse may learn to sing.

      APK. I still think that talking to someone would be of benefit to you

  39. Re:Windows 10 - buggy and half-finished by asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    More than any other OS, I would say Windows 10 has a buggy and half-finished feel to it.

    Clearly you're too young to remember Windows ME. Not that this invalidates your points at all, just saying Microsoft has certainly done worse.

  40. Technical Prview? by BeemanIT · · Score: 1

    I'm curious as to what advice has Microsoft ever implemented from their technical preview program for Windows 10? Or was that just a show to try to get admins to buy in?

  41. Considering Linux by rally2xs · · Score: 1

    The last update to Windows 10 irrevocably broke my computer. I was about to roll back to the previous version when I saw a link to Microsoft Support. Was with them for an extended time, and there's no solution to my memory management BSOD except to do what I was about to do and roll it back to the previous version.

    Soooo... the computer is frozen in time, no more updates, with the cure appearing to be a new computer, or at least a new motherboard using different hardware that hopefully doesn't have the same characteristics that cause my current one to crash.

    Considering Linux, but still want to be able to use the same software, including the games, that I'm currently using. Finding different ways that all have the same bottom line, that this or that sort of program, such as games, don't work well because of one thing or another. Games don't work because this VM has limited video emulation, or so forth.

    So... the bottom line appears to be that, for being able to continue with the same familiar software as always, then every last OS on the planet sucks doggie dicks. There is no solution.

    So... the cheapest thing to do that also doesn't involve 100's of hours of learning a new OS and simply trading one set of problems for another is to keep on with my frozen-in-time computer until it no longer works in a modern environment, or explodes from the stress like a 155 mm artillery shell and kills me outright. Love computers, love to hate computers, sometimes wish they'd never have been invented, but not really.

    Upgrading the computer to avoid being hosed by the updated OS is going to be expensive. This computer cost me about $4K to build. Next one will probably be store-bought, since I can get the equivalent for about the same money, and have an additional level of support besides going directly to Microsoft to find out there's no solution to the problem. And if I get it from a company and it does BSOD from this latest update, I can send it back to said company. Since I built this one, there's nobody to send it back to.

    But... overall... computers are wonderful and computers suck all at the same time. Kinda makes you want to be stranded on that S. Pacific island... no computer, no need for a computer...

  42. derebbolc? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...installing 1803 can clobber your peer-to-peer network."

    Which is the complete opposite of what happened. The local network didn't work until 1803.

    In that case, something must be very, very wrong with my configuration.

    Windows networking has never worked properly for me, especially when meticulously following directions on configuring things.

  43. Says the UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing baseless in what I say. Why not use a REGISTERED 'luser' account u admit u have vs. STALKING ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous?

    * You won't because you KNOW you're stalking me & caught red-handed.

    (Don't even TRY feed me any bullshit otherwise - you're not to be believed in ANYTHING you say).

    APK

    P.S.=> Quit STALKING me... apk

  44. The butler did it, his name is MS Bob by Contract+Gypsy · · Score: 0

    Yes, someone still has a copy of MS Bob, don't be ashamed, it was the most stable version of Windows ever after all. Perhaps that's because Bob hardly did anything. Bringing up Bob is my revenge on the latest Windows 10 update. Yep, all network settings were grenade, so I fixed those. On two machines, after fixing the network settings, after a reboot Windows came up with a safe mode style display 640x480, it never said it was in safe mode and the network stuff still worked. I removed the update and things went back to normal. So, I ask why would any safe mode require 640x480 for safe mode? Displays of that low resolution went away when Leisure Suit Larry got shot in the head! I still miss my 640x480 amber monochrome Torch monitor, it was a good monitor up until the day it lived up to its name TORCH... set off the smoke detector and torched itself internally to the point the plastic housing melted! After that it was 40 pounds of crap, kinda like the old windows they keep building on... bad foundation.

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    Life is in a state of dynamic equilibrium, it both blows and sucks
  45. Re:Registered /.ers disagree w/ you stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortuantly APK is not functional nor well.
    His software should not be trusted as it provides a false sense of security.

  46. Answer my question UNIDENTIFIABLE ac stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not use a REGISTERED 'luser' account u admit u have vs. STALKING ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts you're doing?

    APK

    P.S.=> Was a pleasure making you out a TOTAL FOOL here too wannabe "jailhouse lawyer" https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... ... apk

    1. Re: Answer my question UNIDENTIFIABLE ac stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize that multiple people post AC replies to you, don't you? Surely you're smart enough to know your replies aren't just coming from a single person.

      You have a history of following logged-in users around after they criticize you, and replying to their posts in other articles with offtopic spam. That behavior isn't acceptable, and people have learned to reply to you anonymously to avoid your bad behavior. Don't whine that people reply to you anonymously. You brought this on yourself.

  47. LOL! Says UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Says UNIDENTIFIABLE ac stalker JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" who can't show he's done better vs. /. registered peers saying https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... yet vainly TRYING to put my ware down?

    * Vs. your notware/hotair windbag BLOWHARD vaporware too??

    (Please - RoTfLmAo!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts work vs. a plethora of online threats & speed you up 2 ways vs. slowing you doing MORE for LESS (good engineering is less complex as that leads to exploit) for FREE, natively in faster kernelmode operation vs. slower usermode layered on "Bolt-on-'MoAr'" ILLOGIC-LOGIC full of security issues, resource hogging, sold out to not work in full by default, inefficient redundant junk vs. hosts superiority on all fronts & more noted... apk

    1. Re:LOL! Says UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your registered peers say you are an asshole

  48. I'll let others speak 4 me, others can judge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid - by JazzLad on Wednesday April 20, 2016

    that APK guy, I use his host file by rogoshen1 (2922505) on Tuesday March 03, 2015

    APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat (756137) on Wednesday June 21, 2017

    I support APK's stand on the hosts file - by Trax3001BBS (2368736)

    ABP is insufficient as a solid hosts file does everything APK reminds us about fast turtle September 17 2013

    You need APK's hosts file - by Teun (17872) on Wednesday August 06, 2014 @08:59AM (#47613163)

    * See subject!

    APK

    P.S.=> Learn to read... apk

    1. Re:I'll let others speak 4 me, others can judge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to learn to read as they do way you are an asshole, but you just don't want people to see that. Keep hiding what people actually think of you and your software.

  49. Re:Windows 10 - buggy and half-finished by asshole by walllaby · · Score: 1

    The snipping tool is a big flaming piece of shit.

    I'll take it over "print screen."

    The way they install updates as if they are entitled to controlling you is unacceptable.

    Most non-technical users have proven themselves incapable of maintaining their own systems, so automatic updates are a response to the "Windows gets viruses" schtick. Granted, they could do it better, but I haven't hard a problem telling my machine "put off these updates until later" and my game doesn't get interrupted.

  50. 1803 sucks and I wish Linux would move past the pr by highinthemountains · · Score: 1

    1803 must have been released so customers could beta test it, because it sure wasnâ(TM)t ready for general release. I had 8 laptops in my shop that were bricked by 1803. Microsoft's âoefixâ is a clean install. When I asked the tech how Iâ(TM)m supposed to explain to the customer that a Microsoft update broke their computer, but theyâ(TM)re going to have to pay me to fix it. (In 4 cases the customer paid, the other 4 they werenâ(TM)t worth putting that much money into and the customer went to Wally World to buy a new one.) The tech said that theyâ(TM)d fix it for free if the customer had another computer and a flash drive. Uh huh, Iâ(TM)m sure that someone with a heavy accent telling someone who can barely turn on their computer how to fix it over the phone will really work. I truly wish that Linux would move past the propeller head stage and make it easy for regular people to use it and get productive work done. Mint is almost there, but itâ(TM)s still not as easy as Windoze is.

  51. Re:Windows 10 - buggy and half-finished by asshole by toddestan · · Score: 1

    I don't know about that. Windows ME had some stability issues, but it at least respected my settings. I could turn something off or change a default and it stayed that way. Windows Update only ran when I told it to. Windows wouldn't change a driver because it thought it knew better. Applications didn't randomly disappear. The UI was much better too - responsive, consistent, and easy to get around once you knew the basics (granted, Windows ME didn't try anything radical in the UI department - it was basically the same familiar 98SE/2000 UI).

    The big difference is with Windows ME, it was still my computer and I had control over it. With Windows 10 I may have bought the hardware, but it's Microsoft's computer and Windows will do what it wants and there's fuck all I can do about it short of wiping and installing another OS.

  52. Re:Windows must stop being yet another Linux distr by sad_ · · Score: 1

    Windows used to be great when it had actual versions and you could install it and forget it for years.

    eh? install windows and forget about it for years? how? when you put the pc back in the box and store it on the attic? when the pc is disconnected from any network (would not even qualify in this case)? if there ever was an OS that required constant hand holding it would be windows, my god. if you use windows, it requires attention.

    --
    On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
  53. If W10 didn't spy on you / commit data theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    then things might work better and we could trust microsoft.

  54. Dear "Dr. Quack"... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear "Dr. Quack" the "SiDeWaLk-ShRiNk of /.": Why should I take advice from a crackpot w/ delusions of grandeur in you? Your evals didn't fix you.

    APK

    P.S.=> Go away now JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" who STALKS ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts, "shoo" - you've been dismissed... apk

  55. No, you do & take your dyslexia meds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, you do & take your dyslexia meds + put on your glasses. Everyone sees what people said here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... as to what people think of my software there, JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" (lol) that STALKS ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts...

    * See subject & 1st line above!

    APK

    P.S.=> You WISH you were me (Proven by all the times you've also IMPERSONATED me & kept it up today here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & here too https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... + here also https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... in another article thread... apk

  56. Re:Windows 10 - buggy and half-finished by asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Nothing should ever delete your existing work just because you clicked 'new.' Instead, it should open in a NEW window and keep your existing one."

    That depends on the type of application. If it is a SDI (single document interface) application (eg. Wordpad), then choosing "New" should clear the existing document (asking first ofc).

  57. Re:Windows must stop being yet another Linux distr by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 2

    You're doing something very wrong if you need to attend to your Windows installation(s) all the time.

    I've got a few friends of mine whose Windows (7) installations have been churning along completely unattended for over seven years now - no issues whatsoever.

    You just ask them not to install anything they absolutely don't need and to keep an eye on their AV. That's it.

  58. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  59. Re:Windows must stop being yet another Linux distr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I run my Win 7 box 24/7 and haven't seen so much as a single crash in a decade. Reboots are once every 2-3 weeks on average.

  60. Re:Windows 10 - buggy and half-finished by asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you feeling a tad frustrated with Windows 10?

    I'll give you a developer's point of view. I'm working on developing a device driver for Windows 10, and you have no idea of just how mind-blowingly bad some of the kernel and developer tools are. A typical error message can read: "An error has occurred." That's it. No error code, no location, no pointer to logging, and no hint of what the error was. You're now on your own to debug the Microsoft kernel, which is something nobody outside of Microsoft should be doing, but I assure you, everyone ends up doing because: WTF. To blindly trust the Microsoft documentation is to be led into out-dated specifications that WILL bluescreen you. Not fun.

    Oh well. Back to work.

  61. YMMV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > "If you think Win10 1803 is ready for prime time, you're welcome to give it a try."

    Meh. I never had any reason to doubt it wasn't going to be, and so I've upgraded every one of my Win10 machines to it shortly after it became available. Except for one that's already had problems with 1709, all machines were upgraded in-place pretty much flawlessly.

    YMMV of course, but I don't see it as any better, or worse, than any previous update.