Oh, I have. They are not good at it, but if you set things up right, it can xerox the original and spit out a ragged looking facsimile. They usually have a storage compartment or "bag" to catch the copies.
Oh yeah, I can tell you've been working for a long time. Right... The hacker makes the company run. Without them, the company would die. Riiiight.
Get a clue. While upper management has been getting a bad rap as of late, the fact remains: They make the decisions that make the company work.
Yes, they need the support of talented people, but they make the decisions that shape the future of the company.
It sucks, but after many years of thinking I was the reason my company was doing well, I found out that it wasn't the case. I helped, but I didn't have the experience or knowledge to make correct decisions for the company as a whole. Maybe one day...
Well, not to drag this out, but authentication (or security) is in the eye of the beholder. People set a different "height" for their security wall. I'm not saying that Inertia did a smart thing putting that file there, but the fact remains that Reuters fished for it since it was not being "advertised" as public.
If reuters can fish for information by non-standard means (i.e. inventing url's), then I can fish for items on a website by non-standard means too. Some interesting scripts come to mind.
Yes, I'd be circumventing your idea of authentication (and mine), but that is our idea, not the hacker's.
Finally, my point is that both parties were are fault here. Inertia for being dumb, and Reuters for fishing. Dumb shouldn't put you in jail (if you only hurt yourself), and asking "questions" (i.e. trying url's) shouldn't either.
Thats why you're stupid. Publically accessible webservers have one purpose, to publically give out documents. If you don't want something to be publically accessible, you don't put it on your webserver. House and store analogies are just stupid. Reuters asked their webserver for a document and they received it. There is nothing illegal or fishy there.
Since you are too young to understand home ownership, let's talk webserver ownership.
If your public webserver serves me your password list or any other file by way of a hack, then by your logic, it is serving me this information publically. Where do you draw the line?
I will second this. It is absolutely worth the money. Virtually all telemarketing calls have ended.
And, if you have an answering machine that can store voice messages in different mailboxes based on ring type, they will also get their own mailbox if they decide to actually leave a message.
BMW (if not others) have had easter eggs in their cars for some time now.
One example is on my '99 MZ3: if you do the right things when turning on the car, you can get all the gages to move through their entire range of motion.
Another is to play with the radio and modify internal settings./greg
Remember when there was emacs-18 and lucid emacs? RMS couldn't co-exist with the Jamie and the Lucid folks and now we have xemacs and fsf emacs.
Present day: galeon has been around and is a well developed lightweight browser. The mozilla folks *had* to do their own rather than adopting something that is already out there and accepted.
I guess it is always good to have options, but it seems like such a waste of effort in this case...
I sync my Zaurus with linux box everyday via my 802.11 card. It works well.
However, that is not the syncing issues that people have been complaining about. The problems are poor syncing software in terms of its intelligence. The protocol does not support enough variations and causes data to be lost because it can't figure out what has changed in all cases.
I'm glad to see that the Zaurus is getting some positive press. I've been working with one (developer version) since last November and it has come a long way. It still suffers from the OSS development process, i.e. there is some wicked cool stuff out there, but there are also gaping holes in functionality (like syncing).
Sharp has done a pretty good job, but it is companies like The Kompany that are really making the Zaurus a quality pda.
It hasn't been smooth, but it has been moving forward.
Well, true, in the "default" configuration and with your definition of "storage". But it is linux... My 5000D has 32mb of storage (like 28 or so in reality).
Yes, I read the article, but actually, I was thinking that the robots could perform human tasks. However, why not have it go beyond that as well? Your best option for survival is more options, so wouldn't it follow that restricting the robot to only human capabilities would limit its usefulness?
You've got to wonder why they chose the human form for this? It isn't very efficient in this environment.
How about something that can old on with one arm, use two or more arms to actualy do work. Add a camera to each arm, plus a central camera, etc. The options are endless, so why human?
Hang on... M$'s only existance is Windows. Sony, IBM, etc. may be able to toss around hundreds of billions of dollars, but they have much larger business models that need to support many more diversified products.
M$ can put that $20b behind windows. IBM, Sony, etc. cannot necessarily do that.
And... M$ took much longer because they didn't care about getting it out sooner at that time.
Maybe IBM/(GNU)Linux is M$'s biggest threat, but that can be equated to saying that David is Goliath's biggest threat. Sure, once in a while David will win, but what are the odds as they stand now?
Let's just hope that Linux wins the same one that David did.
Ok, you got me. Now, let's apply a common sense filter to my original post.
Of course "one off, disposable code" doesn't need the same degree of "analness" applied to it as does mission critical code.
However, "fast enough" is a really bad metric to use. Yes, utility "X" is fast enough. But oh, I didn't realize it was going to be used in conjunction with utility "Y" and "Z". Now, everything is really slow. Hey, can you say Microsoft?
Fortune telling is not part of any programming job description I've ever seen.
Worldcom is a big company and it will be difficult to topple.
Look at IBM... Not quite the same situation, but it was doing pretty bad there for a while. Wish I bought some of their stock then... Hmm... Maybe Worldcom would be a good buy now @ $0.22 / share? Man, for $500 bucks you could have some 2200 shares.
Bottom line is that if they manage the situation properly, they will survive.
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Oh, I have. They are not good at it, but if you set things up right, it can xerox the original and spit out a ragged looking facsimile. They usually have a storage compartment or "bag" to catch the copies.
The trouble is trying to find the original.
Oh yeah, I can tell you've been working for a long time. Right... The hacker makes the company run. Without them, the company would die. Riiiight.
Get a clue. While upper management has been getting a bad rap as of late, the fact remains: They make the decisions that make the company work.
Yes, they need the support of talented people, but they make the decisions that shape the future of the company.
It sucks, but after many years of thinking I was the reason my company was doing well, I found out that it wasn't the case. I helped, but I didn't have the experience or knowledge to make correct decisions for the company as a whole. Maybe one day...
What you mean is they "hacked" the url. It is a "hack", albeit, a trivial one.
Like I said, authentication is in the eye of the beholder. Same holds true for hacks.
Don't be so nit picky... Try to understand the point I'm making and discuss that instead!
Well, not to drag this out, but authentication (or security) is in the eye of the beholder. People set a different "height" for their security wall. I'm not saying that Inertia did a smart thing putting that file there, but the fact remains that Reuters fished for it since it was not being "advertised" as public.
If reuters can fish for information by non-standard means (i.e. inventing url's), then I can fish for items on a website by non-standard means too. Some interesting scripts come to mind.
Yes, I'd be circumventing your idea of authentication (and mine), but that is our idea, not the hacker's.
Finally, my point is that both parties were are fault here. Inertia for being dumb, and Reuters for fishing. Dumb shouldn't put you in jail (if you only hurt yourself), and asking "questions" (i.e. trying url's) shouldn't either.
Thats why you're stupid. Publically accessible webservers have one purpose, to publically give out documents. If you don't want something to be publically accessible, you don't put it on your webserver. House and store analogies are just stupid. Reuters asked their webserver for a document and they received it. There is nothing illegal or fishy there.
Since you are too young to understand home ownership, let's talk webserver ownership.
If your public webserver serves me your password list or any other file by way of a hack, then by your logic, it is serving me this information publically. Where do you draw the line?
Am I make myself for you clear? Sheesh.
How could it possibly be considered private if it was accessable by url?
Well, your house is accessable by simply moving some little pieces of metal in the lock tumbler that are clearly accessable from the outside.
So by that logic, I guess the contents of your house are public.
It was dumb to put the file on the webserver, but reuters was clearly snooping.
I will second this. It is absolutely worth the money. Virtually all telemarketing calls have ended.
And, if you have an answering machine that can store voice messages in different mailboxes based on ring type, they will also get their own mailbox if they decide to actually leave a message.
It rocks!
BMW (if not others) have had easter eggs in their cars for some time now.
/greg
One example is on my '99 MZ3: if you do the right things when turning on the car, you can get all the gages to move through their entire range of motion.
Another is to play with the radio and modify internal settings.
Remember when there was emacs-18 and lucid emacs? RMS couldn't co-exist with the Jamie and the Lucid folks and now we have xemacs and fsf emacs.
Present day: galeon has been around and is a well developed lightweight browser. The mozilla folks *had* to do their own rather than adopting something that is already out there and accepted.
I guess it is always good to have options, but it seems like such a waste of effort in this case...
Remember when your G.I. Joe's arm was melting and pieces of it were dripping off?
Will your skin make that same cool sound as it drips to the ground using this machine?
I sync my Zaurus with linux box everyday via my 802.11 card. It works well.
However, that is not the syncing issues that people have been complaining about. The problems are poor syncing software in terms of its intelligence. The protocol does not support enough variations and causes data to be lost because it can't figure out what has changed in all cases.
I'm glad to see that the Zaurus is getting some positive press. I've been working with one (developer version) since last November and it has come a long way. It still suffers from the OSS development process, i.e. there is some wicked cool stuff out there, but there are also gaping holes in functionality (like syncing).
Sharp has done a pretty good job, but it is companies like The Kompany that are really making the Zaurus a quality pda.
It hasn't been smooth, but it has been moving forward.
Well, true, in the "default" configuration and with your definition of "storage". But it is linux... My 5000D has 32mb of storage (like 28 or so in reality).
The Zaurus offers 32megs of storage
SL-5000D (developer's version) was 32mb.
The commercial version, the SL-5500 is 64mb.
Yes, I read the article, but actually, I was thinking that the robots could perform human tasks. However, why not have it go beyond that as well? Your best option for survival is more options, so wouldn't it follow that restricting the robot to only human capabilities would limit its usefulness?
You've got to wonder why they chose the human form for this? It isn't very efficient in this environment.
How about something that can old on with one arm, use two or more arms to actualy do work. Add a camera to each arm, plus a central camera, etc. The options are endless, so why human?
Microsoft is a house of cards
:-)
While I don't agree with the above, you do make valid points.
But, then again, I'm biased.
Hang on... M$'s only existance is Windows. Sony, IBM, etc. may be able to toss around hundreds of billions of dollars, but they have much larger business models that need to support many more diversified products.
M$ can put that $20b behind windows. IBM, Sony, etc. cannot necessarily do that.
And... M$ took much longer because they didn't care about getting it out sooner at that time.
I believe M$ is still the Goliath in this case.
Maybe IBM/(GNU)Linux is M$'s biggest threat, but that can be equated to saying that David is Goliath's biggest threat. Sure, once in a while David will win, but what are the odds as they stand now?
Let's just hope that Linux wins the same one that David did.
Recall the recent slashdot article where it was stated that cable companies do NOT like wifi sharing. I wonder how this will workout?
Ok, you got me. Now, let's apply a common sense filter to my original post.
Of course "one off, disposable code" doesn't need the same degree of "analness" applied to it as does mission critical code.
However, "fast enough" is a really bad metric to use. Yes, utility "X" is fast enough. But oh, I didn't realize it was going to be used in conjunction with utility "Y" and "Z". Now, everything is really slow. Hey, can you say Microsoft?
Fortune telling is not part of any programming job description I've ever seen.
Profiling, in one form or another, is ABSOLUTELY necessary. There is no other way to find out why (and where!) your code is running slowly.
Does gprof do everything we need? No. Are there better tools? Yes.
But, the bottom line is that if you don't profile your code (and unit test it, and integration test it, and...), you are not writing good code.
It's like debating if "breathing" is necessary or not.
Worldcom is a big company and it will be difficult to topple.
Look at IBM... Not quite the same situation, but it was doing pretty bad there for a while. Wish I bought some of their stock then... Hmm... Maybe Worldcom would be a good buy now @ $0.22 / share? Man, for $500 bucks you could have some 2200 shares.
Bottom line is that if they manage the situation properly, they will survive.
Becareful when you mix Church and State!! There was a recent ruling about this!! :-)
Interesting to note that sf.net is not blocked. Of course, it gets redirected to sourceforge.net.