That link seems like BS. I've never even heard of AYI, and can't imagine what kind of idiot would use a Facebook app for dating. Everyone these days uses Tinder, OKCupid, and a few others like match.com, eharmony, etc. OKC has by far the best data analyses.
Secondly, your claim is contradicted by your link. Your link states that Asian women are most popular. You claimed that southeast Asian women were the most popular. There's a LOT more to Asia (and even far-east Asia) than SE Asia. Most notably, you're leaving out Korea, Japan, and China, by far the most populous parts of the far East! My main objection was your claim about SE Asians.
Finally, your link is a.uk link, so it's not representative of the US or western Europe.
As an aside, that article really sucked because it didn't show the relative popularities of the different linkings. How much more popular are Asian women with white men than white women, for instance? It doesn't say. It could be huge, or it could be 0.1%. And it kept saying something about "there times more often". If someone can't even figure out how to spell the word "three" (not just one typo, they misspelled it multiple times), I really don't have any faith in the rest of their writing.
Anyway, I won't deny that (non-specific) Asian women are disproportionately more popular, and that black women are the most unpopular comes as no surprise at all as I've seen that statistic many, many times. But given how many white-man-Asian-woman vs. white-man-white-woman couples I see, combined with the actual numbers of Asian women here in the US (there really aren't that many, compared to white, black, and Latino; they're easily the smallest group), this just seems rather contrived.
Are you seriously comparing male circumcision to female genital mutilation?
I never said one was just as bad as the other, but they're both of the same mentality. They both involve mutilating the sexual organs of an unconsenting child for purely religious purposes (even if people refuse to admit that's the reason). It's just like comparing Erdogan with Hitler; one is clearly worse than the other, but this doesn't mean you can't draw comparisons, and also condemn both as bad.
Vasectomies do not protect a man from false accusations of sexual harassment, stalking, assault, rape, etc.
This is extremely rare, and only shows your paranoia. In fact, here in the US I'd bet that the *vast* majority of false rape accusations come from wives in contested divorces (it happened to a friend of my ex-wife's; it didn't go far because the police didn't believe it, probably because it's so common for women like this to cry rape to try to get more out of the divorce proceedings).
Nor do they protect a man from losing most of everything he has earned in a divorce.
No one's forcing you to marry. I just recommended a vasectomy. If you're so obviously paranoid about getting screwed over by women, but then you're dumb enough to agree to marry one, then I don't know what to tell you.
Believe it or not, a vasectomy doesn't always protect a man from child support payments, both in a live-together-then-breakup situation (where he inherits financial obligations for kids that were born before they ever met) or blatant false fathership claims.
Bullshit. Citation needed. The only time I've heard of men being forced to pay child support for kids that weren't theirs is when they were married, and didn't contest the paternity early on. If you're just living with a girlfriend and she turns up pregnant and you contest the paternity right away (and you're proven right by a DNA test), and then kick her out for cheating, there's pretty much no way you'll get stuck with child support. Most of this kind of thing comes from the old days before DNA testing anyway.
And besides, just like getting married, letting someone move in with you is your own choice. If you're really this paranoid, it's pretty simple: get a vasectomy, don't marry anyone, and don't move in with anyone. The legal system is not going to saddle you with obligations to any women if all you do is screw them and are completely unable to make a baby with them. Of course, with an attitude like yours, I have a hard time imagining what women would ever want to date you, unless she's an obvious gold-digger, or horribly desperate and stupid.
Yes, the media and advertising made a difference, but it's kinda irrelevant: the People are ultimately responsible for their own votes.
As for them "doing so much better", how so? I don't think they could have found anyone who's more of a sell-out to certain moneyed interests than Hillary.
This is what I came here to say too. These male employees should be thankful they were forced out early! That company is a resume stain these days. All the women who stuck with it to the end are going to have a harder time getting a job with that black mark on their resumes.
Not true, in the US (and I believe Western Europe too), studies show women of South East Asian descent get the most positive reaction on dating apps. White men, and SE Asian women have the advantage on dating apps.
Citation needed; I've never heard of such a thing. SE Asian women usually means Filipinos, and I have tons of them messaging me on OKC all the time. I just ignore them, because they're all gold-diggers looking for a way to emigrate to the US. I rarely see SE Asian women already living here, and on dating sites. When I do, they're usually a nanny, and again seem to be looking for a set-up.
The women who seem to be most popular and thus picky are the 20-30-something white women who are pretty, in shape, and well-employed (college educated). Of course, this seems to go to their heads because then I also see a bunch of late-30s and 40s women just like this, who apparently never "settled" for anyone and now they're getting lonely and wanting to have kids before they're biologically unable to, and they're starting to seem pretty desperate.
Here in the west no race are forced to mutilate their genitalia.
Actually, this is doubly false.
Male babies are still frequently mutilated in the USA, and the medical establishment still backs up this practice even though the European medical establishment gave up on this decades ago.
Female Muslim babes, usually in places like the UK, are frequently flown to Africa by their families and mutilated. There's starting to be more action against this, but it's slow because the families and parents are complicit, along with anyone else in the religion (so if they only see Muslim doctors, no one might find out).
Truth is the social justice stuff is basically a way for big business to sell more shit to white women.
There's a good reason for this: women in the US today control more money through household spending than men. Women have jobs and earn almost as much as men now, so if they're single, they of course control all their own money, but then if they're married, they also have disproportionate control of the household money (which usually comes from two earners, the wife and the husband). The only time men have full control over finances and spending is when 1) they're single, or 2) they're extremely conservative religious nuts (and even this one I question; it's usually women who push religion and are more religious).
I had a boss that was man angry after 3 failed divorces and purged all men from managerial positions.
Ok, I have to ask: how exactly do you fail at a divorce, let alone three of them?
People have failed marriages all the time, but I've never heard of a failed divorce. I've heard of people changing their mind and deciding to stay together, but I wouldn't call that a "failed divorce".
Hillary didn't need the superdelegates to win; she had enough votes and delegates to win without them. It's true that the DNC rigged things, along with the mainstream media (esp. WaPo) spinning things in her favor as much as possible, but in the end, it was the Democratic voters who picked her. And unlike the GOP side where the vote was badly split among SO many candidates, allowing Trump to win with a minority of votes, the Dem side didn't have this: O'Malley, Chafffee and Webb barely got any votes at all and two of those dropped out very early on.
Basically, in this election the GOP proved that it's incompetent at getting their establishment pick selected, and the DNC proved that they're masters of it. But still, the ultimate responsibility on the Democrat side (NOT the Republican side) is with the voters themselves. *They* made the choice for Hillary.
(The same is not true on the Republican side; the voters there are not responsible, because of the first-past-the-post voting system, and the fact that Trump only got a minority of votes. The nomination of Trump really shows that FPTP voting systems should be banned everywhere, and anyone who thinks they're a good system should be summarily executed so that their stupidity does not spread.)
And many more will vote for her simply because the Republican nominee is so ridiculously horrible.
Honestly, why couldn't the Republicans have re-nominated Romney or McCain? Either one of those guys would be far preferable to these two clowns we have running this year. I'll even take bimbo Palin as VP nominee again. She may have thought Africa was a country, but she's still better than Pence.
Ridiculous. There's nothing in the Constitution that I know of that says anything about that, so there's nothing stopping Congress from passing laws making the use of cash more difficult or even illegal.
What makes you think that'll always be there? It only takes a small change to the printing presses to fix that, or they could just shut down the presses altogether and pass a law requiring all transactions to be electronic.
It's probably not a big problem in Japan because people there actually care about their society. Consequently, you don't see a lot of stuff there like littering, cutting in line, etc. Even the mobsters have a sense of serving their community.
It's just a sign of the times in America. We simply can't get anything done any more, unless it only involves a single company. If it involves regulation at all, forget it, it just won't get done or it'll be completely broken.
They can only use equipment and solutions that are actually available on the market. Merchants don't have the ability to make their own card-readers and make them conform to standards, just like you're unlikely to be able to build your own car that meets all emissions and crash-safety standards. If driving on public roads suddenly requires having new cars that meet certain standards, and you have 6 months to upgrade, but there's no carmakers actually selling these cars, what do you do?
It looks like they found a solution anyway: ditch the card reader and use an internet payment processor like Stripe.
Either Bernie or Warren could easily beat Trump, I think. There's so much dislike of Trump all around, even from within the GOP itself; the only reason he has a shot at all is because Hillary is so disliked. Almost anyone who's seen as somewhat reasonable, and not plagued with scandals, would easily win against him.
I still think Bernie would have the election in the bag if Hillary dropped out; one big reason a lot of people on the right keep voting GOP against all self-interest is the gun issue, and that's one thing where Bernie isn't that bad on (if you're pro-gun), and was attacked a lot by Hillary for. He can genuinely claim he has the interests of rural Vermont voters at heart there, as he has for years; Hillary can't.
The vaccine thing seems to be arguable, but you're right about the whole Green party and their anti-nuclear hysteria.
However, she still seems very preferable compared to Johnson, who just seems to be a burned-out pothead who believes in a bunch of extremist libertarian lunacy.
Worse yet, both of these two clowns are far preferable to the two mainstream candidates, one being a complete loon and the other being a corporate whore and war-hawk.
Both mainstream candidates make the 3rd party candidates look like the competent ones.
Which is really bad considering one is a brain-fried pothead and the other appears to either be a quack doctor who's an anti-vaxxer or at least panders to that crowd.
I really wish we could have someone who's both an outsider and reasonably competent, like Ralph Nader.
You went from bad to the very worst because the others weren't good enough for you apparently. Verizon is easily the worst of the telecoms. There is not good telecom; they're all horrible. But Verizon is the worst, and most expensive to boot.
My suggestion for cellular service: sign up for service with Ting and get yourself a Spring phone (though T-mo phones work too). It's much cheaper than going direct with the big companies, you get the same quality of service (coverage) as Sprint since you're using their towers, but much better tech support if you need it. What you won't get is a fancy store to visit in person; it's all web-based. If you're the kind of person who can buy their own phone and deal with any issues by chatting with a tech online, it's a great service in my experience. (If you're a tech-clueless person who needs to talk to people in person and have them hold your hand, it's definitely not the way to go.)
Cultural extreme left don't listen to reason, they only listen to their ideology. It doesn't matter how flawed that ideology, they are not open to criticism.
How is the cultural left flawed? There's a few issues with certain wings opposing free speech ("safe spaces") in very, very recent years, but for the most part they're socially libertarian. The only way you can oppose that ideology is if you're an authoritarian asshole who wants to push your own values or religion on other people by force.
Of course, leftist economic principles are a different matter; I'm only talking about social principles, including things like gay marriage. If you don't like gay marriage, no problem, don't get one.
Boeing isn't just a defense contractor; they're one of the two largest companies in the world that makes passenger aircraft. When you consider that long-distance travel (on either Boeing or Airbus jets) is cheaper than any point in aviation history, they're obviously doing something right.
Lockheed, and the portion of Boeing the does defense contracting, OTOH, is another story. But that can really be blamed on the government and how it does those projects.
Before you try to blame defense contracting for subsidizing the commercial side, remember that their big competitor, Airbus, doesn't have this so much, and the two seem to be roughly comparable in terms of technology and price.
KDE4 is still maintained for a long time, very stable and usable. Why not just keep using that?
Because you have to use whatever your chosen distro decides to ship with and maintain. Putting your own DE on a distro isn't that easy usually, and ends up with rough edges. All the distros seem to have finally switched to KDE5 (Mint just now switched, with the recently-released Mint 18 KDE Edition). If I have to go to extra trouble to use KDE4, I might as well just jump ship and use XCFE, since there's distros that feature that instead.
Did you do validation? I think spending time in validation is some serious "earning your stripes" stuff compared to other groups I worked in.
Yep, I started in compatibility validation for RAID cards and then moved to pre-silicon validation (Verilog simulation) of mobile processors. It (the pre-silicon side at least, the compatibility stuff not so much) was definitely a great way of learning how processors work. Note that I never worked in the desktop chip groups, but rather in what ended up getting sold off to Marvell.
When I popped in a few years ago, the tools were _way_ more advanced. They added distributed computing (netbatch) and used some pretty sophisticated formal verification software from Cadence.....
Yep, I was using Netbatch back around 2003 for simulation tests. They tried to get us into using Specman; I thought it was crap. The internally-created tools we used were great and all ran in Perl and C++, so they didn't need specialized and non-transferrable training or special tools and licenses. They were looking a lot at SystemVerilog and SystemC when I left.
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That link seems like BS. I've never even heard of AYI, and can't imagine what kind of idiot would use a Facebook app for dating. Everyone these days uses Tinder, OKCupid, and a few others like match.com, eharmony, etc. OKC has by far the best data analyses.
Secondly, your claim is contradicted by your link. Your link states that Asian women are most popular. You claimed that southeast Asian women were the most popular. There's a LOT more to Asia (and even far-east Asia) than SE Asia. Most notably, you're leaving out Korea, Japan, and China, by far the most populous parts of the far East! My main objection was your claim about SE Asians.
Finally, your link is a .uk link, so it's not representative of the US or western Europe.
As an aside, that article really sucked because it didn't show the relative popularities of the different linkings. How much more popular are Asian women with white men than white women, for instance? It doesn't say. It could be huge, or it could be 0.1%. And it kept saying something about "there times more often". If someone can't even figure out how to spell the word "three" (not just one typo, they misspelled it multiple times), I really don't have any faith in the rest of their writing.
Anyway, I won't deny that (non-specific) Asian women are disproportionately more popular, and that black women are the most unpopular comes as no surprise at all as I've seen that statistic many, many times. But given how many white-man-Asian-woman vs. white-man-white-woman couples I see, combined with the actual numbers of Asian women here in the US (there really aren't that many, compared to white, black, and Latino; they're easily the smallest group), this just seems rather contrived.
Are you seriously comparing male circumcision to female genital mutilation?
I never said one was just as bad as the other, but they're both of the same mentality. They both involve mutilating the sexual organs of an unconsenting child for purely religious purposes (even if people refuse to admit that's the reason). It's just like comparing Erdogan with Hitler; one is clearly worse than the other, but this doesn't mean you can't draw comparisons, and also condemn both as bad.
Vasectomies do not protect a man from false accusations of sexual harassment, stalking, assault, rape, etc.
This is extremely rare, and only shows your paranoia. In fact, here in the US I'd bet that the *vast* majority of false rape accusations come from wives in contested divorces (it happened to a friend of my ex-wife's; it didn't go far because the police didn't believe it, probably because it's so common for women like this to cry rape to try to get more out of the divorce proceedings).
Nor do they protect a man from losing most of everything he has earned in a divorce.
No one's forcing you to marry. I just recommended a vasectomy. If you're so obviously paranoid about getting screwed over by women, but then you're dumb enough to agree to marry one, then I don't know what to tell you.
Believe it or not, a vasectomy doesn't always protect a man from child support payments, both in a live-together-then-breakup situation (where he inherits financial obligations for kids that were born before they ever met) or blatant false fathership claims.
Bullshit. Citation needed. The only time I've heard of men being forced to pay child support for kids that weren't theirs is when they were married, and didn't contest the paternity early on. If you're just living with a girlfriend and she turns up pregnant and you contest the paternity right away (and you're proven right by a DNA test), and then kick her out for cheating, there's pretty much no way you'll get stuck with child support. Most of this kind of thing comes from the old days before DNA testing anyway.
And besides, just like getting married, letting someone move in with you is your own choice. If you're really this paranoid, it's pretty simple: get a vasectomy, don't marry anyone, and don't move in with anyone. The legal system is not going to saddle you with obligations to any women if all you do is screw them and are completely unable to make a baby with them. Of course, with an attitude like yours, I have a hard time imagining what women would ever want to date you, unless she's an obvious gold-digger, or horribly desperate and stupid.
Yes, the media and advertising made a difference, but it's kinda irrelevant: the People are ultimately responsible for their own votes.
As for them "doing so much better", how so? I don't think they could have found anyone who's more of a sell-out to certain moneyed interests than Hillary.
This is what I came here to say too. These male employees should be thankful they were forced out early! That company is a resume stain these days. All the women who stuck with it to the end are going to have a harder time getting a job with that black mark on their resumes.
If you're that paranoid, all you need to do is get a vasectomy. It can be done in a short office visit.
Not true, in the US (and I believe Western Europe too), studies show women of South East Asian descent get the most positive reaction on dating apps. White men, and SE Asian women have the advantage on dating apps.
Citation needed; I've never heard of such a thing. SE Asian women usually means Filipinos, and I have tons of them messaging me on OKC all the time. I just ignore them, because they're all gold-diggers looking for a way to emigrate to the US. I rarely see SE Asian women already living here, and on dating sites. When I do, they're usually a nanny, and again seem to be looking for a set-up.
The women who seem to be most popular and thus picky are the 20-30-something white women who are pretty, in shape, and well-employed (college educated). Of course, this seems to go to their heads because then I also see a bunch of late-30s and 40s women just like this, who apparently never "settled" for anyone and now they're getting lonely and wanting to have kids before they're biologically unable to, and they're starting to seem pretty desperate.
Here in the west no race are forced to mutilate their genitalia.
Actually, this is doubly false.
Male babies are still frequently mutilated in the USA, and the medical establishment still backs up this practice even though the European medical establishment gave up on this decades ago.
Female Muslim babes, usually in places like the UK, are frequently flown to Africa by their families and mutilated. There's starting to be more action against this, but it's slow because the families and parents are complicit, along with anyone else in the religion (so if they only see Muslim doctors, no one might find out).
Truth is the social justice stuff is basically a way for big business to sell more shit to white women.
There's a good reason for this: women in the US today control more money through household spending than men. Women have jobs and earn almost as much as men now, so if they're single, they of course control all their own money, but then if they're married, they also have disproportionate control of the household money (which usually comes from two earners, the wife and the husband). The only time men have full control over finances and spending is when 1) they're single, or 2) they're extremely conservative religious nuts (and even this one I question; it's usually women who push religion and are more religious).
I had a boss that was man angry after 3 failed divorces and purged all men from managerial positions.
Ok, I have to ask: how exactly do you fail at a divorce, let alone three of them?
People have failed marriages all the time, but I've never heard of a failed divorce. I've heard of people changing their mind and deciding to stay together, but I wouldn't call that a "failed divorce".
Hillary didn't need the superdelegates to win; she had enough votes and delegates to win without them. It's true that the DNC rigged things, along with the mainstream media (esp. WaPo) spinning things in her favor as much as possible, but in the end, it was the Democratic voters who picked her. And unlike the GOP side where the vote was badly split among SO many candidates, allowing Trump to win with a minority of votes, the Dem side didn't have this: O'Malley, Chafffee and Webb barely got any votes at all and two of those dropped out very early on.
Basically, in this election the GOP proved that it's incompetent at getting their establishment pick selected, and the DNC proved that they're masters of it. But still, the ultimate responsibility on the Democrat side (NOT the Republican side) is with the voters themselves. *They* made the choice for Hillary.
(The same is not true on the Republican side; the voters there are not responsible, because of the first-past-the-post voting system, and the fact that Trump only got a minority of votes. The nomination of Trump really shows that FPTP voting systems should be banned everywhere, and anyone who thinks they're a good system should be summarily executed so that their stupidity does not spread.)
And many more will vote for her simply because the Republican nominee is so ridiculously horrible.
Honestly, why couldn't the Republicans have re-nominated Romney or McCain? Either one of those guys would be far preferable to these two clowns we have running this year. I'll even take bimbo Palin as VP nominee again. She may have thought Africa was a country, but she's still better than Pence.
Ridiculous. There's nothing in the Constitution that I know of that says anything about that, so there's nothing stopping Congress from passing laws making the use of cash more difficult or even illegal.
What makes you think that'll always be there? It only takes a small change to the printing presses to fix that, or they could just shut down the presses altogether and pass a law requiring all transactions to be electronic.
It's probably not a big problem in Japan because people there actually care about their society. Consequently, you don't see a lot of stuff there like littering, cutting in line, etc. Even the mobsters have a sense of serving their community.
It's just a sign of the times in America. We simply can't get anything done any more, unless it only involves a single company. If it involves regulation at all, forget it, it just won't get done or it'll be completely broken.
They can only use equipment and solutions that are actually available on the market. Merchants don't have the ability to make their own card-readers and make them conform to standards, just like you're unlikely to be able to build your own car that meets all emissions and crash-safety standards. If driving on public roads suddenly requires having new cars that meet certain standards, and you have 6 months to upgrade, but there's no carmakers actually selling these cars, what do you do?
It looks like they found a solution anyway: ditch the card reader and use an internet payment processor like Stripe.
Either Bernie or Warren could easily beat Trump, I think. There's so much dislike of Trump all around, even from within the GOP itself; the only reason he has a shot at all is because Hillary is so disliked. Almost anyone who's seen as somewhat reasonable, and not plagued with scandals, would easily win against him.
I still think Bernie would have the election in the bag if Hillary dropped out; one big reason a lot of people on the right keep voting GOP against all self-interest is the gun issue, and that's one thing where Bernie isn't that bad on (if you're pro-gun), and was attacked a lot by Hillary for. He can genuinely claim he has the interests of rural Vermont voters at heart there, as he has for years; Hillary can't.
The vaccine thing seems to be arguable, but you're right about the whole Green party and their anti-nuclear hysteria.
However, she still seems very preferable compared to Johnson, who just seems to be a burned-out pothead who believes in a bunch of extremist libertarian lunacy.
Worse yet, both of these two clowns are far preferable to the two mainstream candidates, one being a complete loon and the other being a corporate whore and war-hawk.
Both mainstream candidates make the 3rd party candidates look like the competent ones.
Which is really bad considering one is a brain-fried pothead and the other appears to either be a quack doctor who's an anti-vaxxer or at least panders to that crowd.
I really wish we could have someone who's both an outsider and reasonably competent, like Ralph Nader.
Yeah, that username looks like "dmb" (that's "D M B" since Slashdot text is so unreadable) to me.
That said, I'm completely in shock that the poster offered his apologies. This is the internet: we don't do that kind of thing here!!
You went from bad to the very worst because the others weren't good enough for you apparently. Verizon is easily the worst of the telecoms. There is not good telecom; they're all horrible. But Verizon is the worst, and most expensive to boot.
My suggestion for cellular service: sign up for service with Ting and get yourself a Spring phone (though T-mo phones work too). It's much cheaper than going direct with the big companies, you get the same quality of service (coverage) as Sprint since you're using their towers, but much better tech support if you need it. What you won't get is a fancy store to visit in person; it's all web-based. If you're the kind of person who can buy their own phone and deal with any issues by chatting with a tech online, it's a great service in my experience. (If you're a tech-clueless person who needs to talk to people in person and have them hold your hand, it's definitely not the way to go.)
If they're claiming it's sapphire, and there's no sapphire in it, and it scratches just as easily as regular glass, that's called "false advertising".
Cultural extreme left don't listen to reason, they only listen to their ideology. It doesn't matter how flawed that ideology, they are not open to criticism.
How is the cultural left flawed? There's a few issues with certain wings opposing free speech ("safe spaces") in very, very recent years, but for the most part they're socially libertarian. The only way you can oppose that ideology is if you're an authoritarian asshole who wants to push your own values or religion on other people by force.
Of course, leftist economic principles are a different matter; I'm only talking about social principles, including things like gay marriage. If you don't like gay marriage, no problem, don't get one.
This is BS.
Boeing isn't just a defense contractor; they're one of the two largest companies in the world that makes passenger aircraft. When you consider that long-distance travel (on either Boeing or Airbus jets) is cheaper than any point in aviation history, they're obviously doing something right.
Lockheed, and the portion of Boeing the does defense contracting, OTOH, is another story. But that can really be blamed on the government and how it does those projects.
Before you try to blame defense contracting for subsidizing the commercial side, remember that their big competitor, Airbus, doesn't have this so much, and the two seem to be roughly comparable in terms of technology and price.
KDE4 is still maintained for a long time, very stable and usable. Why not just keep using that?
Because you have to use whatever your chosen distro decides to ship with and maintain. Putting your own DE on a distro isn't that easy usually, and ends up with rough edges. All the distros seem to have finally switched to KDE5 (Mint just now switched, with the recently-released Mint 18 KDE Edition). If I have to go to extra trouble to use KDE4, I might as well just jump ship and use XCFE, since there's distros that feature that instead.
Did you do validation? I think spending time in validation is some serious "earning your stripes" stuff compared to other groups I worked in.
Yep, I started in compatibility validation for RAID cards and then moved to pre-silicon validation (Verilog simulation) of mobile processors. It (the pre-silicon side at least, the compatibility stuff not so much) was definitely a great way of learning how processors work. Note that I never worked in the desktop chip groups, but rather in what ended up getting sold off to Marvell.
When I popped in a few years ago, the tools were _way_ more advanced. They added distributed computing (netbatch) and used some pretty sophisticated formal verification software from Cadence. ....
Yep, I was using Netbatch back around 2003 for simulation tests. They tried to get us into using Specman; I thought it was crap. The internally-created tools we used were great and all ran in Perl and C++, so they didn't need specialized and non-transferrable training or special tools and licenses. They were looking a lot at SystemVerilog and SystemC when I left.