RedHat has a TERRIBLE history of changing their contracts. After purchasing many support contracts for RH9, and paying $60 each for them (workstation grade) they announced they would no longer support 9 after ONE year, and all my contracts were worthless. This was just after they released 9, 6 months after releasing version 8 (which was a big enough pain in the ass as it is!). Of course, I could RUN up2date and it would just TELL me that everything was updated already, even though it was dangerously OUT of date.
I still have two boxes using RH products (Fedora, unfortunately), the rest are being phased out. Already installing SuSE on my personal boxes, and looking at BSD for some servers (DNS for example).
Sad since I have used RH since the 5.1 days, and toyed with it since the 4.x days. I still have a boxed copy of every major release, but feel majorly screwed by them, enough that I can't ever see me changing back. They can't seem to figure out how they want to support Linux, and while they are finally making a profit in the short term, IBM/Novell/SuSE have a much better chance of getting my dollars, and the dollars of the other people RH has jacked around.
Perot didn't take any that many votes from Dole. You are thinking the PRIOR election, when Perot killed GB 41's chances of re-election by capturing 20% of the national vote. Perot was pretty marginalized by the 1996 election. I can't think of any state that Clinton won by less than the margin that Perot recieved, thus making Perot's showing irrelevent.
I was one of those that voted for him in 92 and worked for United We Stand as a founding member. Before discovering he was basically a nut, and wasn't just acting like one...
Bob Dole was a nice guy and excellent Senator, just not a good Prez. candidate. Maybe his wife will do better.
Just for the record, very VERY few people actually go to jail for SMOKING pot in the US. Perhaps for a few hours to post bail, but most cities make you pay a fine, and even under the worst situation, its a years probation. Everywhere in the US, smoking pot is a misdomeanor, not a felony. Yes, the laws on pot are very stupid, but lets not blow it out of preportion.
Now, federal sentencing guidelines REQUIRE that a person who GROWS pot (even a few plants) must get a 5 year minimum sentence, so remember, its better to support gangs and terrorists by purchasing pot rather than growing it... Yes, that has got to be the all time dumbest law on the books, but its still not mandated to go to jail for just smoking pot.
Since you become a citizen of the US simply by being born here, are you suggesting we put "click through" banners in hospitals? Something like "By breathing, you agree to the following terms:"
Actually, I think its a good idea to have a group that doesn't make AV software, or operating systems, reverse engineer a virus.
While I think Symantec, et al, are honest companies, I don't think they are working a way to make viruses obsolete (and themselves obsolete as well). MS is working on adding new features more than security, because you will buy it anway. My experience in life tells me that an educated outsider's opinion, if well researched, can be pretty damn insightful.
I actually read the report (skipping over the assembly parts I dont understand) and saw a very methodical approach to it. They clearly state what software they use, why they picked Bagle, and said it was a very simple virus, and is a good candidate to learn on if you want to move on and learn more about malware. All and all, a good read.
Think about Space Ship One. They could have said "well, NASA already knows about space, why should we bother?" but they didn't. To me, this is the same thing. An outsider looking in. Oh, and Lucent is not exactly new to computing, either.
Sun gave them 9 millions and nobody is accusing them
Sure they have. Hell, _I_ have openly and often. The big difference is the fact that Sun isn't a 800 pound gorilla like Microsoft (more of a 45 pound chimp nowadays). Sun is doing the same thing Microsoft is doing: subsidizing FUD against Linux while protecting themselves from lawsuits.
If the payments protected them from lawsuits (both Sun and MSFT) but did NOT hurt Linux, do you really think they would have handed over the cash so eagerly?
Now, this doesn't make the action illegal. Hell, I would have done the same thing perhaps. But lets call a spade a spade, and not fool ourselves. Its dirty pool, winner take all, for both Sun and MSFT.
It's time people in the US stood up and said "ENOUGH!"
We did, and Bush was re-elected. Just a few days ago. With the largest majority since Reagan in 1988. With the most votes in US history.
You don't have to like it, but the majority of US citizens PREFER Bush and the status quo. You can make excuses or try to blame it away, but it doesn't hold water because he won, fair, by EVERYONE's definition (no lawsuits, no disputes). WHY people can't accept that the people HAVE spoken is beyond me.
Just because YOU disagree with the majority, doesn't mean the majority have not spoken and expressed their will. You're just pissed because everyone doesn't agree with you. Deal with it.
Thank you! I have no problem with people who are obviously and outspoken about being biased (Limbaugh and Moore come to mind) but when you are biased, and try to hide behind "non-partisan" purely to mislead people into thinking your point of view is the majority view, then it is beyond dishonest. It took an entire 3 minutes to see that yes, the truth is on this site, but it is almost hidden and obviously skewed toward Kerry.
It's the old "Of course I am unbiased, it is just that one candidate is a crook and the other is not" bullshit.
It seems to me that if you have something worth saying, you should be honest enough to admit your bias. If you are hidding your bias, then I have no option but to think you are lying about everything else, be you Dem or GOP.
Oh, and yes, I am not voting this year. About to puke on political lies from both sides, ESPECIALLY local issues in N.C. Besides, there are no conservatives running, only two guys who swear they are, depending upon what state they are visiting.
No, he would not. Its not a liberal or conservative thing, its a power thing. Its about campaign contributions and power.
I don't care for Kerry, but that doesn't matter because he is not any less corrupt than any other politician (read as: 100%)
So no, Kerry would not do anything that would take money away from his power, just as Bush or any other life long politician would not. And people ask why I am not voting this year....
In a strange way, this is why AIDS is so devistating in the real world. A virus that simply made you explode when infected would be short lived (or instantly formatting your hard drive in the computer world), but a virus that can go virtually undetected because of a lack of symptoms for years while it spreads to others, has a better chance of replicating itself onto as many hosts as possible.
You are correct, the most successful organisms (worms/viruses in this case) preserve the host in order to spread, while consuming enough to survive but not enough to kill the host or get noticed.
So, careers involving handling sewage, manure or garbage are actually BETTER than being an IT manager?
I thought they were the same: putting up with peoples shit, the bullshit the users feed you (No, I never went to THAT site...), and the trashed hard drives they create when checking out Viagra links.
Only difference is how you smell when you get home. IT Managers usually smell worse.
You're not. The thugs at TVL might make you think that, but (as TVL evasion is a civil offence IIRC), there is a ballance of probabilities. You have a TV but no CCTV system, VCR, DVD or computer, and it's plugged into an aeriel, tuned in, and theres a copy of the radio times by the control, then you'll be found liable for the fine. Dont have an aeriel, have it wired up to CCTV, and even on the off chance the goons come round, and then get a search warrant and the police, and you'll still be found not liable.
I appreciate your perspective on this issue, but as an American, the whole idea that a search warrant can be issued and my home searched to verify how I use my television is more than a little disturbing. It really does bring up images of 1984. We get our TV for free (a few channels) or pay for it from several different sources, cable, satalite, etc. It isn't the Govt.'s business how we use them. Here, only the Govt. can obtain a search warrant, after all.
While this may be acceptable in the UK, I am telling you people would be rioting in the streets here in the US. In a country with 280 million people, and 280 million handguns, I don't think this type of enforcement would last long, and I am not exaggerating the point. The last time someone mentioned requiring registering GUNS (rather than TVs) the public went crazy and was protesting that this was an invasion of their Rights and privacy. I don't feel that registering TVs would be any more popular here. I would have to agree with the majority on both issues.
Thank you for pointing that out. I listen to both Fox and BBC daily, and can testify that while Fox may lean right, they always put both sides on to give their arguements. The BBC feels it only needs to give you one perspective, theirs.
Their reporting on non-political events is good, although they always seem to find a way to work politics into them, but anything that has political ramifications leans so far left that even most Liberals/Labor will admit the bias. This is part of why they like the BBC.
The BBC used to be one of the most objective and comprehensive news sources in the world, with equal respect from all sides of the political spectrum. Now, however, they have become more tabloid, choosing to represent a singular point of view, with more concern to promoting a political philosophy than getting to the truth. All we can do is hope that this is a short term problem with their current management.
As an American, I can't help but to feel that the BBC is now dangerously anti-American, so yes, I still listen to BBC radio every day, but for different reasons that I used to: Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
The Pro version of 9.1 has Gnome 2.4 but I don't care for it (then again, I have always prefered KDE). I checked their website, and their Personal Edition of 9.1 doesn't have Gnome, so I think this would indicate that yes, they have a preference for KDE. This is one reason I have changed from RH to SuSE on my Linux desktops. RH's magically disappearing support options (even if you have PAID for support) being the other reason.
Yes, I am sure you would, which is why you will be sitting at home when it DOES happen, and you will be the one yelling at the TV, saying how stupid they are to take such a risk.
Not everyone is afraid to dream. I have spent my entire adult life taking risks (although nothing like space travel). The risk takers either reach the moon or die young. Old, crotchity people like you just sit on the sidelines, telling the rest of us everything is impossible, and that we are stupid for trying.
I guess it takes all kinds.
I guess going to the moon, breaking the sound barrier, and flying solo over the Atlantic were stupid, too, huh? I am sure others said it was stupid to even DREAM of flying in an aeroplane across the country, or the ocean, and even if we could, only the rich would ever be able to afford it.
I guess the key to being a successful dreamer is to understand that to obtain your goal, you will have to use inventions that do not exist, find money that you don't have, take risks you don't even understand, but have the vision to see it through.
But you're right, its much easier to simply say that it is impossible, and eventually watch others prove you wrong, on TV, from the comfort of your rocking chair. Thank god we are not all as smart as you are.
Today does not herald in the age of zero-G convention centers.
I would argue that the first manned flight in space was the first step toward zero-G convention centers. Today is just one rung of a very tall ladder.
A very important rung, because it is civilian, privately funded, done on the cheap, was done on the first attempt, has attracted more venture capital, uses a safer fuel, and more importantly it sparks the imagination of millions of kids, of all ages.
Space hotels (of some sort) are not likely in the next 5 years, but as a 40 year old, they just MIGHT be in my lifetime. I had not thought so until recently.
Modded Funny but I see more insight than humor. Americans have been forced to quit listening to most of the world due to their decisions to protest against the actions of other countries, but do nothing about it. Passing an empty resolution is hardly the same as taking action.
Perhaps that is considered normal in the rest of the world, but in America, if you're going to bitch about something, you are expected to do something about it. I understand that this can intimidate some, but they must understand that to US, bitching without taking action looks very cowardly, or in the least, dishonest.
Complaining about a dictator is easy. Removing him when you KNOW its going to cost lives requires a tad more moral character, will, and resolve, especially when you know its going to piss some people off who are making money off that dictatorship.
Actually, the rest of the world had concluded that Iraq DID have WMDs, including some plans to build nukes (save for the aluminum pipes). This is not even in dispute. France, Russia, Germany all agreed that Iraq had and was building WMDs, and voted for sanctions. Even Seria voted for the resolutions. Again, google it and see that this is not in dispute.
But then again, why should be let the facts get in the way of a good US bashing, right?
They've been deforesting pretty hard over there for a long time, for cooking and building wood.
sorry, but bullshit. There are MORE trees now than 200 years ago.
The US has a major logging industry, but they have to plan more than they cut, plus the dust bowl in the 30s led to millions of trees being planted in the midwest, which previously had very few trees.
You guys go ahead and rag the US, the read your history. Yes, we use more fuel than anyone else, about 4x the average, but we also have the strictest air laws for cars, were first to ban aerosols, and the majority of major cities have cleaner drinking water than they did 20 years ago.
But its much more fun to just bash the US, using conjecture and assumptions, without getting the facts. Don't bother replying, just go google it yourself.
I have had that yahoo account since the mid 90s, but would love to compare the two. Have heard so much about gmail, its all moot if you don't actually have an account to compare to. The 1gig storage would be super cool as well, as would the ability to get a decent name instead of "pharmboy98324@gmail.com"
IBM makes great products. IBM sucks at marketing, and always has. The only smart thing they have done in marketing is to embrace Linux.
Microchannel, PS/2, OS/2, etc. All superior products that they could not get enough people to try or were closed and too expensive because they didn't see the marketing advantage to bringing it to the masses.
I love their products IN SPITE of their ability to market them properly.
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RedHat has a TERRIBLE history of changing their contracts. After purchasing many support contracts for RH9, and paying $60 each for them (workstation grade) they announced they would no longer support 9 after ONE year, and all my contracts were worthless. This was just after they released 9, 6 months after releasing version 8 (which was a big enough pain in the ass as it is!). Of course, I could RUN up2date and it would just TELL me that everything was updated already, even though it was dangerously OUT of date.
I still have two boxes using RH products (Fedora, unfortunately), the rest are being phased out. Already installing SuSE on my personal boxes, and looking at BSD for some servers (DNS for example).
Sad since I have used RH since the 5.1 days, and toyed with it since the 4.x days. I still have a boxed copy of every major release, but feel majorly screwed by them, enough that I can't ever see me changing back. They can't seem to figure out how they want to support Linux, and while they are finally making a profit in the short term, IBM/Novell/SuSE have a much better chance of getting my dollars, and the dollars of the other people RH has jacked around.
Perot didn't take any that many votes from Dole. You are thinking the PRIOR election, when Perot killed GB 41's chances of re-election by capturing 20% of the national vote. Perot was pretty marginalized by the 1996 election. I can't think of any state that Clinton won by less than the margin that Perot recieved, thus making Perot's showing irrelevent.
I was one of those that voted for him in 92 and worked for United We Stand as a founding member. Before discovering he was basically a nut, and wasn't just acting like one...
Bob Dole was a nice guy and excellent Senator, just not a good Prez. candidate. Maybe his wife will do better.
Just for the record, very VERY few people actually go to jail for SMOKING pot in the US. Perhaps for a few hours to post bail, but most cities make you pay a fine, and even under the worst situation, its a years probation. Everywhere in the US, smoking pot is a misdomeanor, not a felony. Yes, the laws on pot are very stupid, but lets not blow it out of preportion.
Now, federal sentencing guidelines REQUIRE that a person who GROWS pot (even a few plants) must get a 5 year minimum sentence, so remember, its better to support gangs and terrorists by purchasing pot rather than growing it... Yes, that has got to be the all time dumbest law on the books, but its still not mandated to go to jail for just smoking pot.
Since you become a citizen of the US simply by being born here, are you suggesting we put "click through" banners in hospitals? Something like "By breathing, you agree to the following terms:"
Actually, I think its a good idea to have a group that doesn't make AV software, or operating systems, reverse engineer a virus.
While I think Symantec, et al, are honest companies, I don't think they are working a way to make viruses obsolete (and themselves obsolete as well). MS is working on adding new features more than security, because you will buy it anway. My experience in life tells me that an educated outsider's opinion, if well researched, can be pretty damn insightful.
I actually read the report (skipping over the assembly parts I dont understand) and saw a very methodical approach to it. They clearly state what software they use, why they picked Bagle, and said it was a very simple virus, and is a good candidate to learn on if you want to move on and learn more about malware. All and all, a good read.
Think about Space Ship One. They could have said "well, NASA already knows about space, why should we bother?" but they didn't. To me, this is the same thing. An outsider looking in. Oh, and Lucent is not exactly new to computing, either.
Sun gave them 9 millions and nobody is accusing them
Sure they have. Hell, _I_ have openly and often. The big difference is the fact that Sun isn't a 800 pound gorilla like Microsoft (more of a 45 pound chimp nowadays). Sun is doing the same thing Microsoft is doing: subsidizing FUD against Linux while protecting themselves from lawsuits.
If the payments protected them from lawsuits (both Sun and MSFT) but did NOT hurt Linux, do you really think they would have handed over the cash so eagerly?
Now, this doesn't make the action illegal. Hell, I would have done the same thing perhaps. But lets call a spade a spade, and not fool ourselves. Its dirty pool, winner take all, for both Sun and MSFT.
Maybe its like "Animal Farm", where "No animal shall sleep in a bed" becomes "No animal shall sleep in a bed.....with sheets".
Now the new 1st law of robotics is "No robot shall harm a human being.....on our side."
It's time people in the US stood up and said "ENOUGH!"
We did, and Bush was re-elected. Just a few days ago. With the largest majority since Reagan in 1988. With the most votes in US history.
You don't have to like it, but the majority of US citizens PREFER Bush and the status quo. You can make excuses or try to blame it away, but it doesn't hold water because he won, fair, by EVERYONE's definition (no lawsuits, no disputes). WHY people can't accept that the people HAVE spoken is beyond me.
Just because YOU disagree with the majority, doesn't mean the majority have not spoken and expressed their will. You're just pissed because everyone doesn't agree with you. Deal with it.
Thank you! I have no problem with people who are obviously and outspoken about being biased (Limbaugh and Moore come to mind) but when you are biased, and try to hide behind "non-partisan" purely to mislead people into thinking your point of view is the majority view, then it is beyond dishonest. It took an entire 3 minutes to see that yes, the truth is on this site, but it is almost hidden and obviously skewed toward Kerry.
It's the old "Of course I am unbiased, it is just that one candidate is a crook and the other is not" bullshit.
It seems to me that if you have something worth saying, you should be honest enough to admit your bias. If you are hidding your bias, then I have no option but to think you are lying about everything else, be you Dem or GOP.
Oh, and yes, I am not voting this year. About to puke on political lies from both sides, ESPECIALLY local issues in N.C. Besides, there are no conservatives running, only two guys who swear they are, depending upon what state they are visiting.
actually, been using the calculator available in my.yahoo.com for many years now. and its a bit more intuitive.
Euler's formula is what his mum fed him ...
Euler's Formula is breast milk??
No, he would not. Its not a liberal or conservative thing, its a power thing. Its about campaign contributions and power.
I don't care for Kerry, but that doesn't matter because he is not any less corrupt than any other politician (read as: 100%)
So no, Kerry would not do anything that would take money away from his power, just as Bush or any other life long politician would not. And people ask why I am not voting this year....
In a strange way, this is why AIDS is so devistating in the real world. A virus that simply made you explode when infected would be short lived (or instantly formatting your hard drive in the computer world), but a virus that can go virtually undetected because of a lack of symptoms for years while it spreads to others, has a better chance of replicating itself onto as many hosts as possible.
You are correct, the most successful organisms (worms/viruses in this case) preserve the host in order to spread, while consuming enough to survive but not enough to kill the host or get noticed.
So, careers involving handling sewage, manure or garbage are actually BETTER than being an IT manager?
I thought they were the same: putting up with peoples shit, the bullshit the users feed you (No, I never went to THAT site...), and the trashed hard drives they create when checking out Viagra links.
Only difference is how you smell when you get home. IT Managers usually smell worse.
Please name a web site that you absolutly have to have MSIE for it to work on, and I will show you a better alternative.
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
You're not. The thugs at TVL might make you think that, but (as TVL evasion is a civil offence IIRC), there is a ballance of probabilities. You have a TV but no CCTV system, VCR, DVD or computer, and it's plugged into an aeriel, tuned in, and theres a copy of the radio times by the control, then you'll be found liable for the fine. Dont have an aeriel, have it wired up to CCTV, and even on the off chance the goons come round, and then get a search warrant and the police, and you'll still be found not liable.
I appreciate your perspective on this issue, but as an American, the whole idea that a search warrant can be issued and my home searched to verify how I use my television is more than a little disturbing. It really does bring up images of 1984. We get our TV for free (a few channels) or pay for it from several different sources, cable, satalite, etc. It isn't the Govt.'s business how we use them. Here, only the Govt. can obtain a search warrant, after all.
While this may be acceptable in the UK, I am telling you people would be rioting in the streets here in the US. In a country with 280 million people, and 280 million handguns, I don't think this type of enforcement would last long, and I am not exaggerating the point. The last time someone mentioned requiring registering GUNS (rather than TVs) the public went crazy and was protesting that this was an invasion of their Rights and privacy. I don't feel that registering TVs would be any more popular here. I would have to agree with the majority on both issues.
Thank you for pointing that out. I listen to both Fox and BBC daily, and can testify that while Fox may lean right, they always put both sides on to give their arguements. The BBC feels it only needs to give you one perspective, theirs.
Their reporting on non-political events is good, although they always seem to find a way to work politics into them, but anything that has political ramifications leans so far left that even most Liberals/Labor will admit the bias. This is part of why they like the BBC.
The BBC used to be one of the most objective and comprehensive news sources in the world, with equal respect from all sides of the political spectrum. Now, however, they have become more tabloid, choosing to represent a singular point of view, with more concern to promoting a political philosophy than getting to the truth. All we can do is hope that this is a short term problem with their current management.
As an American, I can't help but to feel that the BBC is now dangerously anti-American, so yes, I still listen to BBC radio every day, but for different reasons that I used to: Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
The Pro version of 9.1 has Gnome 2.4 but I don't care for it (then again, I have always prefered KDE). I checked their website, and their Personal Edition of 9.1 doesn't have Gnome, so I think this would indicate that yes, they have a preference for KDE. This is one reason I have changed from RH to SuSE on my Linux desktops. RH's magically disappearing support options (even if you have PAID for support) being the other reason.
I'd love to think that all of the problems ...
Yes, I am sure you would, which is why you will be sitting at home when it DOES happen, and you will be the one yelling at the TV, saying how stupid they are to take such a risk.
Not everyone is afraid to dream. I have spent my entire adult life taking risks (although nothing like space travel). The risk takers either reach the moon or die young. Old, crotchity people like you just sit on the sidelines, telling the rest of us everything is impossible, and that we are stupid for trying.
I guess it takes all kinds.
I guess going to the moon, breaking the sound barrier, and flying solo over the Atlantic were stupid, too, huh? I am sure others said it was stupid to even DREAM of flying in an aeroplane across the country, or the ocean, and even if we could, only the rich would ever be able to afford it.
I guess the key to being a successful dreamer is to understand that to obtain your goal, you will have to use inventions that do not exist, find money that you don't have, take risks you don't even understand, but have the vision to see it through.
But you're right, its much easier to simply say that it is impossible, and eventually watch others prove you wrong, on TV, from the comfort of your rocking chair. Thank god we are not all as smart as you are.
Today does not herald in the age of zero-G convention centers.
I would argue that the first manned flight in space was the first step toward zero-G convention centers. Today is just one rung of a very tall ladder.
A very important rung, because it is civilian, privately funded, done on the cheap, was done on the first attempt, has attracted more venture capital, uses a safer fuel, and more importantly it sparks the imagination of millions of kids, of all ages.
Space hotels (of some sort) are not likely in the next 5 years, but as a 40 year old, they just MIGHT be in my lifetime. I had not thought so until recently.
The future is getting closer all the time.
Modded Funny but I see more insight than humor. Americans have been forced to quit listening to most of the world due to their decisions to protest against the actions of other countries, but do nothing about it. Passing an empty resolution is hardly the same as taking action.
Perhaps that is considered normal in the rest of the world, but in America, if you're going to bitch about something, you are expected to do something about it. I understand that this can intimidate some, but they must understand that to US, bitching without taking action looks very cowardly, or in the least, dishonest.
Complaining about a dictator is easy. Removing him when you KNOW its going to cost lives requires a tad more moral character, will, and resolve, especially when you know its going to piss some people off who are making money off that dictatorship.
Actually, the rest of the world had concluded that Iraq DID have WMDs, including some plans to build nukes (save for the aluminum pipes). This is not even in dispute. France, Russia, Germany all agreed that Iraq had and was building WMDs, and voted for sanctions. Even Seria voted for the resolutions. Again, google it and see that this is not in dispute.
But then again, why should be let the facts get in the way of a good US bashing, right?
They've been deforesting pretty hard over there for a long time, for cooking and building wood.
sorry, but bullshit. There are MORE trees now than 200 years ago.
The US has a major logging industry, but they have to plan more than they cut, plus the dust bowl in the 30s led to millions of trees being planted in the midwest, which previously had very few trees.
You guys go ahead and rag the US, the read your history. Yes, we use more fuel than anyone else, about 4x the average, but we also have the strictest air laws for cars, were first to ban aerosols, and the majority of major cities have cleaner drinking water than they did 20 years ago.
But its much more fun to just bash the US, using conjecture and assumptions, without getting the facts. Don't bother replying, just go google it yourself.
PS: You want a gmail account?
Actually, yes.
pigypigy
*at*>
yahoo.youalreadyknowthispart
I have had that yahoo account since the mid 90s, but would love to compare the two. Have heard so much about gmail, its all moot if you don't actually have an account to compare to. The 1gig storage would be super cool as well, as would the ability to get a decent name instead of "pharmboy98324@gmail.com"
Thx in advance.
IBM makes great products. IBM sucks at marketing, and always has. The only smart thing they have done in marketing is to embrace Linux.
Microchannel, PS/2, OS/2, etc. All superior products that they could not get enough people to try or were closed and too expensive because they didn't see the marketing advantage to bringing it to the masses.
I love their products IN SPITE of their ability to market them properly.