ust so you know, the original poster posts for exactly this kind of response. We'd all be better off if we just realized that he's a fucktard and ignored him.
after following the full thread, ic what you mean.
I had actually read the article, and figured that he had too. Obviously, this was stupid of me to expect people to actually read the article before commenting. stupid me.
This mindless promotion of Linux is getting annoying.
You are obviously a troll, but I figured I would give you a thrill anyway.
Its not mindless promotion of anything. It just so happens that he used Linux, because he had an old computer and it was better suited for the task, especially since he would either have to pay for a copy of windows or be pirating it, all for a bus schedule.
NTL are the only ISP I know of that had their own hate site in the form of NTHell [nthellworld.com]. Which they then bought out, employed it's creator and turned it into a customer services forum thing.
aolsucks.org has been up for years, although now it routes to aolwatch.com, but still is devoted to why aol sucks.
I know/.ers have a habit of commenting without reading the article (ya think?) but this article is worth reading.
I am not sure if you have to register with NYTimes (I registered years ago) but its worth registering for free if needed. Its a well thought out article.
Re:The ./ obsession with a cashless society?
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t reminds me of the "computers will solve all your paperwork problems. We will be a paperless society in 25 years." Cash is not going away anytime soon just because some money-geeks think they found an alternative.
I agree, especially here in the US, for a few reasons.
One, cash is tangible. You can see it. Thats a nice feeling. Outside of being mugged, you know you have it.
Two, deep inside us, we still don't fully trust everyone. I have used my credit card for everything from gas to groceries for MANY years. But I still prefer to have some cash in my pocket, and I will never fully trust my gubmint or bank. Hell, I wont even use the drive through. I use the lobby, thank you...
Three, there is a LARGE "grey" market in the US, and i assume everywhere. This is where only cash is accepted. From the flea market to your local drug dealer. Or maybe I don't want a paper trail showing how much I spent at the bar or bordello.
I can see CHECKS becoming obsolete, and using plastic for most purchases, but I don't see hard currency EVER just disappearing.
I certainly wasnt trolling and appreciate your reply. I have a few linux servers setup. one for a web server, one for internet router, and a couple for game servers. plus i ssh in to manage other web sites. I am comfortable with linux, but christ, I am not a "beowulf" expert.
more importantly, im the one who decides what OS and applications our company uses. Now, im an older timer at/. so i am used to it, but many geeks end up INSULTING the very people they want to switch to OSS. I don't get paid to know everything about linux, just enough to do basics and hire others.
I honestly believe that SOME (minority) of people who profess they want M$ to die, really want everything to stay so complicated that only THEY understand it. I can expand on this, but I think you get the general idea. They are the ones that actually reply to all that 'increase your penis' spam.
Remember kiddies: slow ass microsoft support is still considered better than asking about linux and getting flamed in an "open" forum. You might not think so, but those of us that make the decisions to purchase DO.
Not 1024 CPUs in one box. Each CPU sits on a "blade" card and acts like a seperate system. It's a bug cluster
ahhhh. ok. thanks for an intellegent and simple answer. amazing how others will just "god, you dont know everything? wtf is wrong with you!". 'specially here on/.
I think ALL cable systems should be REQUIRED to have a local access channel.
Most cities that I have lived in do. I am not sure if the cities force them to when signing a contract allowing the monopoly, or what, but like I said, most cities I have lived in do.
Now, with that said: The quality of programming on public access TV is almost scary. The majority I have seen is either borderline racist (usually against whites), REALLY bad Karioki (swear to god), drunk 21 year olds with a video camera showing others how drunk they are (in the guise of some form of entertainment)or religion based programming by pastors who have 12 people in their "flock".
Im not exaggering (God, I wish I were). I would have to be more medicated that I care for in order to find it amusing. Here in central NC (metro area of near 1 million) they advertise for people to use it, because there isn't enough garbage to fill all 24 hours.
Many of you are making it sound as if it is a software project. Everyone puts in how it should work and then majority rules. Sadly, that is how it may turn out.
What open source needs is MARKETING. It is no longer whether or not its better or not, its the fact that not enough decision makers understand what OSS really is. We often focus too much on factual representation, and not enough on presentation.
Put it in whatever format the market dictates, write it to be easy to read by the persons you want to read it. Give examples that apply to their situation. This means that people that are already OSS advocates will probably not like the book, which is fine. The goal, it appears, is NOT to reaffirm what hackers think, its to expose decision makers to an alternative to proprietary systems where licensing can change with every necessary update.
If you and I love it, then its probably not written very well for its intended market.
any safer. Remember that the 911 terrorists had valid Saudi (and other) papers. This scheme would not have saved any lives had it been implemented before 911.
It smells like pork barrel to me.
Good point. Making it harder for legal aliens isn't the answer, but it gets votes and makes them look like they care.
Our freedom is, and always has been, due to the citizens, not the government. When I fly (a few times per year) I don't think about how the gubmint is protecting me, I look around at my fellow passengers. Not of fear or see who looks "arab", but so I can see who is going to help if things go wrong. I would rather be on a plane with a dozen construction workers from Philly than a plane full of gubmint agents.
During a trip to an INS regional office, I was briefly shown the green card printing machine. (The cards aren't green and they look similar to a drivers licence.)
Taped to the window was a very official looking green card for a Mrs. Janet Reno.
So the system is for aliens not from this planet, too?
Not to be picky, but not all software that runs on Linux has to be Open Source.
You are correct. Perhaps I muddled the point a bit. When I refered to running their "gadgets" I meant using Linux proper, the kernel, not Linux/GNU as a group of software.
My point was that if they write software that runs the device (my sloppy way of saying it has an OS that is Linux Kernel based) then they would be obligated to open the source.
There is an article on/. right now about a company that just did that, is up to be sued. Ironic timing. I read it one minute after posting and wished I could have linked to it, since it was exactly what I was talking about. Read it here
You have a fairly low UID, so I would normally lean towards giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Thanks for vote of confidence, but as you know a low UID is like a college degree. Just because someone has one, doesnt mean they are smart:-)
Many of the small devices that have any type of computing power run on Linux or proprietary software. Seeing as how open source software is already out there and developed to the point of using without as much modification, it is much cheaper that development from scratch. Since they do have such a high piracy rate they don't have to worry as much about licensing and other legal complications.
Not to be picky, but Linux DOES have a license to deal with, the GNU/GPL. This means that their software would have to be open source as well.
If they wanted to create a "*nix like" OS to power their gadgets, but didn't want to open up their software for others to look at (perhaps to hide really sloppy code), they may be looking more into BSD. There also remains the chance that some company (probably small) will end up using Linux in a device, and not releasing their code, resulting in a lawsuit from Linus. Odds are, this is more of a "when" than a "if".
nope nope nope. you guys have it all wrong. Ive been married 10 years to a lady who never complains about being romantic, and its so freaking easy.
Rule one: You should not be romantic on one day of the year, then sit around watching football and scratching your ass the rest of the time.
Rule two: No matter what she says, its not the big things that matter. Its not the present, or the dinner. Its the thought.
Rule three (and the final rule): Do little nice things several times a year. Get her a card that says shes special, 3 to 6 times, randomly, per year. Just go to Hallmark, find a sappy one, and write a single line about how lucky you are. Leave it on her pillow. Don't make a big deal out of it. Make her dinner at least once a month. Preferably once per week. Rub her feet at least once a month, a really really good rub. with lotion or oil. Tell her you love her daily, but always word it different, so it doesnt sound like you are just saying it out of habit. Let her know how your life is better WITH her than it was before, at least once every few weeks.
Let her be useful. Let her feel that you are helpless without you. Don't actually become a helpless idiot, just let her think she is smarter than you when it comes to everything that is not a computer. Despite what you think, she is probably right anyway.
You getting the idea? You can't be a spaz all year, and just make up for it on one day, and expect her to be happy.
Women generally don't need alot of love, they just need a steady supply. Little things that say you care, on a regular basis. Then on Valentines, shes not so worried about what she does, just who she spends it with.
As someone who lives here and owns a business in Guilford county, I have reservations about finding students to pass the certification. NC ranks 37th in the US for quality schools, and the Greensboro area itself is far from the best the state offers. Its not a matter of kids not being smart, its a matter of politics ruining a school system. We see both high school and college kids regularly in our business, and their lack of basic knowlege is disturbing.
Im glad to see Red Hat investing in the future here, just 90 miles from its corporate headquarters, in the Research Triangle.
There's something about this that I don't quite understand. Perhaps someone who IAL could set the record straight for me.
Wouldn't precedent only be set in the event of an actual judgement? SBC is probably hoping that the little guys will cave and agree to their liscensing terms, but a settlement doesn't actually set any precedent for a later case... at least that's what I thought.
You are correct sir.
But you can use a settlement of a little fish to manipulate other small fish, and then some medium fishes, until a big fish knocks tries to knock you on your ass. *If you don't actually take the big fish to court*, then the "contracts" you have with the small fish are valid, and you get $$$ each month. They are still legally binding contracts/licenses.
You and I can't sue them just because we don't like their patent. We don't have a cause of action until they say we can't use those links and try to get an injuction to get us to stop.
If they never actually go to court, they can go and bullshit any company that is willing to give them money.
1. File broad patent covering a concept rather than a technology. 2......... 3. Profit!
Re:good stroy lines... where are you!?
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We were comparing to FF3, NOT 6. 6 is part of the problem, not the solution.
The point stressed that many makers are focusing more on eye candy than story line and fluidity of play. This is evident in movies and other media as well (bigger explosions, less viable story).
The fact is, many of us believe that game play has been sacrificed to "looks" by MANY companies. The FF franchise is just one example. I have owned all the FF's, including gameboy versions, up to FF7, so my comparisons are based upon actually paying for and playing the games.
As an avid gamer, I have seen this too often. I still have 4 TFC servers, for example, and still love to play TFC. Its not because the graphics are great (although in 1997 they rocked) but because the "game play", meaning controls, fluidity, how instictive the game plays, etc. are superior to say, Soldier of Fortune 2, which is pretty good, with great graphics, but clunkier game play.
You said:
Higher storage allows for greater narrative license in the unfolding of the story itself, whereas older RPG's had to skip over many of the backgrounds and details of the people and towns.
but this misses the whole point. Good stories don't need higher storage. A good story takes no more storage than a bad story. The theater of the mind can always create better images than any graphics card, and a good story is one that helps the user create those images mentally, and the images on the screen simply support this.
I would rather play a game with a GREAT story, and good graphics, than a game that has a good story and GREAT graphics.
Not every 16 year old agrees, but some of us old men still have a better imagination that most of the graphics artists. Some of us even read books, even though TV has "better graphics".
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haven't seen a GOOD story line since FFIII on Snes
Amen. The whole FF series (and other games as well) have gotten much better looking, and much worse playing over the years. Story is a big part of this.
It also explains why NES and SNES games sell so well on Ebay.
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ust so you know, the original poster posts for exactly this kind of response. We'd all be better off if we just realized that he's a fucktard and ignored him.
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after following the full thread, ic what you mean.
I had actually read the article, and figured that he had too. Obviously, this was stupid of me to expect people to actually read the article before commenting. stupid me.
someone mod me down, i deserve it
Its not mindless promotion of anything. It just so happens that he used Linux, because he had an old computer and it was better suited for the task, especially since he would either have to pay for a copy of windows or be pirating it, all for a bus schedule.
And moderator, feel free to mod the parent down.
NTL are the only ISP I know of that had their own hate site in the form of NTHell [nthellworld.com]. Which they then bought out, employed it's creator and turned it into a customer services forum thing.
aolsucks.org has been up for years, although now it routes to aolwatch.com, but still is devoted to why aol sucks.
I know /.ers have a habit of commenting without reading the article (ya think?) but this article is worth reading.
I am not sure if you have to register with NYTimes (I registered years ago) but its worth registering for free if needed. Its a well thought out article.
I agree, especially here in the US, for a few reasons.
One, cash is tangible. You can see it. Thats a nice feeling. Outside of being mugged, you know you have it.
Two, deep inside us, we still don't fully trust everyone. I have used my credit card for everything from gas to groceries for MANY years. But I still prefer to have some cash in my pocket, and I will never fully trust my gubmint or bank. Hell, I wont even use the drive through. I use the lobby, thank you...
Three, there is a LARGE "grey" market in the US, and i assume everywhere. This is where only cash is accepted. From the flea market to your local drug dealer. Or maybe I don't want a paper trail showing how much I spent at the bar or bordello.
I can see CHECKS becoming obsolete, and using plastic for most purchases, but I don't see hard currency EVER just disappearing.
lol, ok, i had to reply.
/. so i am used to it, but many geeks end up INSULTING the very people they want to switch to OSS. I don't get paid to know everything about linux, just enough to do basics and hire others.
I certainly wasnt trolling and appreciate your reply. I have a few linux servers setup. one for a web server, one for internet router, and a couple for game servers. plus i ssh in to manage other web sites. I am comfortable with linux, but christ, I am not a "beowulf" expert.
more importantly, im the one who decides what OS and applications our company uses. Now, im an older timer at
I honestly believe that SOME (minority) of people who profess they want M$ to die, really want everything to stay so complicated that only THEY understand it. I can expand on this, but I think you get the general idea. They are the ones that actually reply to all that 'increase your penis' spam.
Remember kiddies: slow ass microsoft support is still considered better than asking about linux and getting flamed in an "open" forum. You might not think so, but those of us that make the decisions to purchase DO.
Not 1024 CPUs in one box. Each CPU sits on a "blade" card and acts like a seperate system. It's a bug cluster
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ahhhh. ok. thanks for an intellegent and simple answer. amazing how others will just "god, you dont know everything? wtf is wrong with you!". 'specially here on
My god, I thought they had trouble scaling Linux that far. Seriously. How the hell do you do that when "stock" linux doesnt like 8 CPUs?
Most cities that I have lived in do. I am not sure if the cities force them to when signing a contract allowing the monopoly, or what, but like I said, most cities I have lived in do.
Now, with that said: The quality of programming on public access TV is almost scary. The majority I have seen is either borderline racist (usually against whites), REALLY bad Karioki (swear to god), drunk 21 year olds with a video camera showing others how drunk they are (in the guise of some form of entertainment)or religion based programming by pastors who have 12 people in their "flock".
Im not exaggering (God, I wish I were). I would have to be more medicated that I care for in order to find it amusing. Here in central NC (metro area of near 1 million) they advertise for people to use it, because there isn't enough garbage to fill all 24 hours.
Many of you are making it sound as if it is a software project. Everyone puts in how it should work and then majority rules. Sadly, that is how it may turn out.
What open source needs is MARKETING. It is no longer whether or not its better or not, its the fact that not enough decision makers understand what OSS really is. We often focus too much on factual representation, and not enough on presentation.
Put it in whatever format the market dictates, write it to be easy to read by the persons you want to read it. Give examples that apply to their situation. This means that people that are already OSS advocates will probably not like the book, which is fine. The goal, it appears, is NOT to reaffirm what hackers think, its to expose decision makers to an alternative to proprietary systems where licensing can change with every necessary update.
If you and I love it, then its probably not written very well for its intended market.
Good point. Making it harder for legal aliens isn't the answer, but it gets votes and makes them look like they care.
Our freedom is, and always has been, due to the citizens, not the government. When I fly (a few times per year) I don't think about how the gubmint is protecting me, I look around at my fellow passengers. Not of fear or see who looks "arab", but so I can see who is going to help if things go wrong. I would rather be on a plane with a dozen construction workers from Philly than a plane full of gubmint agents.
So the system is for aliens not from this planet, too?
So as long as Microsoft sends someone else to break your legs, its ok?
Not to be picky, but not all software that runs on Linux has to be Open Source.
/. right now about a company that just did that, is up to be sued. Ironic timing. I read it one minute after posting and wished I could have linked to it, since it was exactly what I was talking about. Read it here
:-)
You are correct. Perhaps I muddled the point a bit. When I refered to running their "gadgets" I meant using Linux proper, the kernel, not Linux/GNU as a group of software.
My point was that if they write software that runs the device (my sloppy way of saying it has an OS that is Linux Kernel based) then they would be obligated to open the source.
There is an article on
You have a fairly low UID, so I would normally lean towards giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Thanks for vote of confidence, but as you know a low UID is like a college degree. Just because someone has one, doesnt mean they are smart
Japanese president: Oh, no! Thank you! Another chance to be in same room with big American penis!
Thank you. Thats all, just thank you.
And if anyone doesn't get it, then you get out too much.
thanks for an intellegent reply.
As to whoever modded my sincere question as flamebait, perhaps you should read the articles before you moderate.
Not to be picky, but Linux DOES have a license to deal with, the GNU/GPL. This means that their software would have to be open source as well.
If they wanted to create a "*nix like" OS to power their gadgets, but didn't want to open up their software for others to look at (perhaps to hide really sloppy code), they may be looking more into BSD. There also remains the chance that some company (probably small) will end up using Linux in a device, and not releasing their code, resulting in a lawsuit from Linus. Odds are, this is more of a "when" than a "if".
nope nope nope. you guys have it all wrong. Ive been married 10 years to a lady who never complains about being romantic, and its so freaking easy.
Rule one: You should not be romantic on one day of the year, then sit around watching football and scratching your ass the rest of the time.
Rule two: No matter what she says, its not the big things that matter. Its not the present, or the dinner. Its the thought.
Rule three (and the final rule): Do little nice things several times a year. Get her a card that says shes special, 3 to 6 times, randomly, per year. Just go to Hallmark, find a sappy one, and write a single line about how lucky you are. Leave it on her pillow. Don't make a big deal out of it. Make her dinner at least once a month. Preferably once per week. Rub her feet at least once a month, a really really good rub. with lotion or oil. Tell her you love her daily, but always word it different, so it doesnt sound like you are just saying it out of habit. Let her know how your life is better WITH her than it was before, at least once every few weeks.
Let her be useful. Let her feel that you are helpless without you. Don't actually become a helpless idiot, just let her think she is smarter than you when it comes to everything that is not a computer. Despite what you think, she is probably right anyway.
You getting the idea? You can't be a spaz all year, and just make up for it on one day, and expect her to be happy.
Women generally don't need alot of love, they just need a steady supply. Little things that say you care, on a regular basis. Then on Valentines, shes not so worried about what she does, just who she spends it with.
As someone who lives here and owns a business in Guilford county, I have reservations about finding students to pass the certification. NC ranks 37th in the US for quality schools, and the Greensboro area itself is far from the best the state offers. Its not a matter of kids not being smart, its a matter of politics ruining a school system. We see both high school and college kids regularly in our business, and their lack of basic knowlege is disturbing.
Im glad to see Red Hat investing in the future here, just 90 miles from its corporate headquarters, in the Research Triangle.
the story of the spamming refered to some people claiming they could not delete the "post watershed" program (whatever the hell that is).
I would like any follow ups anyone has on that point. did they have to send a signal to allow deleting or what?
Anything that can be explained away as an accident, while it makes your competition looks bad, sounds like the old Microsoft we know and love.
Just like how they are whinning that because of open source, they may have to lower prices. Poor guys.
In MS case, it looks like a good offense IS a good defense.
You are correct sir.
But you can use a settlement of a little fish to manipulate other small fish, and then some medium fishes, until a big fish knocks tries to knock you on your ass. *If you don't actually take the big fish to court*, then the "contracts" you have with the small fish are valid, and you get $$$ each month. They are still legally binding contracts/licenses.
You and I can't sue them just because we don't like their patent. We don't have a cause of action until they say we can't use those links and try to get an injuction to get us to stop.
If they never actually go to court, they can go and bullshit any company that is willing to give them money.
1. File broad patent covering a concept rather than a technology.
2.........
3. Profit!
The point stressed that many makers are focusing more on eye candy than story line and fluidity of play. This is evident in movies and other media as well (bigger explosions, less viable story).
The fact is, many of us believe that game play has been sacrificed to "looks" by MANY companies. The FF franchise is just one example. I have owned all the FF's, including gameboy versions, up to FF7, so my comparisons are based upon actually paying for and playing the games.
As an avid gamer, I have seen this too often. I still have 4 TFC servers, for example, and still love to play TFC. Its not because the graphics are great (although in 1997 they rocked) but because the "game play", meaning controls, fluidity, how instictive the game plays, etc. are superior to say, Soldier of Fortune 2, which is pretty good, with great graphics, but clunkier game play.
You said:but this misses the whole point. Good stories don't need higher storage. A good story takes no more storage than a bad story. The theater of the mind can always create better images than any graphics card, and a good story is one that helps the user create those images mentally, and the images on the screen simply support this.
I would rather play a game with a GREAT story, and good graphics, than a game that has a good story and GREAT graphics.
Not every 16 year old agrees, but some of us old men still have a better imagination that most of the graphics artists. Some of us even read books, even though TV has "better graphics".
Amen. The whole FF series (and other games as well) have gotten much better looking, and much worse playing over the years. Story is a big part of this.
It also explains why NES and SNES games sell so well on Ebay.