But yeah, like OP says, you can't expect him to want to code just because he loves to game.
Just as you can love to drive cars and not want to be a mechanic. Or love sex but not want to be a father. Or love food and not want to be a chef. etc. etc. etc.
Dell mobility has those motorola's for a dollar...
Thank you! I hit my 2 year mark in a month, and the wife and I both have our eyes on the Droid: me so I can ssh in and work from remote, the wife because, well, she just like shiny new toys. Now I can go buy a bunch of $25 games with the $200 I will save;)
Every GM is a government produced car, as the US owns 60% of GM right now. That is scheduled to be sold off, but as of today, it is still a true fact.
And while my Libertarian self doesn't like what is going on in DC right now, your last sentence is just pure FUD. It isn't like the GOP is any better than the Dems when it comes to trying to find ways to interfere with your life, they just try to interfere with different aspects.
I only buy primary systems every 4-5 years as well, and tend to buy high quality, although not the fastest processor or video. My one year old system runs a Q9550, which I bought just after the i7s came out. Video is a Radion HD4600, not top end but still quite good. While it wasn't highest end, a Q9550 is still a damn good processor by today's standards, as is the HD4600. The rest of the system is solid quality, dual DVD burners, 8mb ram, etc. I DO tend to upgrade the video card about 3 years in. Before discounts, I had about $1800 in the system with a 24" LCD, which is upper middle price range.
By delaying gratification, I am mainly talking about software, games, although it did apply to my hardware to a lesser degree. It only makes sense to buy quality hardware, although the fastest isn't usually the best value.
That is a valid point for someone under 25, but I'm in my 40s, albeit not typical, as I still game regularly and enjoy new technology on a regular basis. I also fish and garden a bit to make sure I get some exercise. I don't game socially (multi-player) very often simply because the demands of family and work make it difficult to schedule gaming, but I still play at least an hour a day. For most of us over 30, delaying gratification works out to save some money. This means when the rare something new comes out and I just MUST HAVE IT NOW, I don't feel so bad spending the money, as that is the exception rather than the rule.
The use of "Howard" is a quote from the movie "Heros" with Henry Winkler and Sally Fields, in Winkler's first post-Happy Days movie. Yes, very old reference, 1977.
I concur. I just set my watch back one year and save thousands of dollars on everything. New games $50? Nope, mine are $25. New processor $300? Nope, mine are $100 and runs my one year old games perfectly. My last "new" car was $30k new but I bought it with 8k miles and just under 1 year old for $20k with full warranty. I'm about to buy a pair of Motorola Droids, which I can get for $99-$199 for both (2y contract, yes). It doesn't always pay off, but on average it saves up tremendously without sacrificing anything but a little time.
The net results is that I actually can buy MORE toys for the same money. Delayed gratification can be a beautiful thing.
Okay, I'll bite. If DRM can't last, why is it still common more than 3 decades into the PC era?
Why did Prohibition last for years? Why is marijuana still illegal yet more available than ever? And as you point out, the Cuban Embargo is still in effect. Just because a bunch of companies are doing something, that doesn't mean it isn't stupid, nor does it mean they will continue to do it forever.
I do expect they will always have some form of DRM to prevent casual pirating, such as this method of one time registration, which is fine as that doesn't affect the ongoing playability of the game. What I expect will disappear is the Ubisoft style that actually can kick you out of the game while you are playing because of a 2 second glitch in your internet connection.
hank your deity that Google doesn't have the same draconian control over their store as Apple.
More fanboy trolls. Even Steve Jobs says that Google doesn't have the same "draconian control", leading him to the famous, "if you want porn, get an Android" comment. I can see why you posted this FUD as AC.
So Google and Firefox should have to use Windows Update? Perl, Cygwin should too? This is patently absurd. Perhaps then Microsoft could just say "No, we don't like you, so no updates from our servers, which means no updates".
These companies don't "code for Windows", they write software that runs on multiple platforms, such as Linux, OS X and Windows. They don't need to "work with Microsoft" because it isn't Microsoft's fucking business, only the operating system is. They are COMPETITORS to Microsoft. Firefox competes with IE. Google competes with IE, Bing, MSN, and even Windows itself on multiple platforms. iTunes is owned by Apple, who competes with the iPod (vs. Zune) and OS X.
If I were Google and MS said I had to go through WU for patches, I would have them in court before you could snap your fingers. That or just laugh in their faces. All the software that runs on your system isn't a single thing, to be controlled by a single company. This more than silly, it is unworkable, intolerable and likely illegal. You need to think it about it just a bit more.
Can't Microsoft put their foot down and ask anybody who want to do update to work with them ?
Oh yea, MS should put their foot down and tell them "if you want your 3rd party program to be installed on customer's computers, you have to go through us. No more 3rd party applications installed unless it is through us or at least done our way". No, that wouldn't perk up the DOJ. And I'm sure that everyone on/. and every other blog would say "yes, that sounds like a good idea".
Once they did that, the thread on/. would have 1000 comments in less than an hour bashing "Teh Micr0$ucks!"
That's pretty funny. Yes, the act of accelerating doesn't change the mass, assuming we aren't approaching the speed of light. There would be a slight increase in the discreet number of pieces after it hits the ocean, however.
I still don't like the idea of not getting the test platform back. Some museum would be happy to show one of these someday, after 20 or 30 years when the technology is less classified. And you would have to think that they would get more info by putting their hands on the spent vehicle. There is no way you can have sensors for every square inch of the platform. The idea that they ditch and forget the platform just doesn't sound right.
Not only that, but you can't always be sure which part is the weak link, what will break. A few tests at hypersonic is guaranteed to make an engineer say "ok, that's an issue we weren't aware of", and confirm much of what they already knew. They may have to make some part that they *thought* would be ok out of a different, stronger alloy, etc. Of course, at this speed, every tiny error in engineering is amplified, as at Mach 6, you cross a lot of real estate in just a few seconds, so the word "precision" doesn't adequately describe the level of perfection required in the test system build.
Being a pioneer at anything guarantees surprises, and best of all, learning new things.
Transmission of information through labels.....that is news for nerds, since when?
Since it concerns Sir Tim, the guy who literally invented the web. If Linus Torvald was hired to design the new Chevy Camero, it would also be news worthy on/. When important people in the technology industry do interesting things that may or may not be directly related to actually compiling code, some of us nerds like to know.
Really? They used to charge manufacturers for every computer they sold whether or not it had windows, this is a fact. They have already said that Linux infringes on their patents, this is a fact. Assuming they would continue to charge manufacturers or pursue lawsuits on their "intellectual property" if they weren't restrained in some way isn't FUD, it is logical deduction.
Most people on/. are technical persons, and I wouldn't have to give them these direct links. Most people, including people like myself who actually use some Microsoft products, already have come to the same conclusion, that Microsoft has abused it's monopoly in the past and would likely do so even more if not for being partially restrained. No fear mongering needed, history speaks for itself.
They are still on the hook for infringement already committed - or at least could be, if the copyright holders want to pursue it.
I would think that the FSF wants to encourage people to use the GPL and distribute software with the license, which increases mind share. That in mind, I can't ever see them suing a company if they will quickly rectify the problem with (preferably) keeping the software available but also the source and other rights to be granted, or (less preferable) to quit distributing the software. I don't see Apple trying to argue or drag this out for some protracted period anyway. There is no advantage for the FSF to get nitpicky about previous distribution if the mistake was innocent enough and quickly taken care of, and it would actually work against them in the long run to be jerks about it, as Apple and others may just avoid all GPL software, thus making developers less likely to use a free license.
When will we end the hypocrisy? Leave Microsoft alone, and go after the real evil... Apple.
This is the same logic that got us involved in Iraq, when the big problem was in Afghanistan. If Microsoft were left to its own devices, every computer maker would still be paying for a copy of a Windows license, even on computers that didn't have a copy of Windows on it. Like they already did before DOJ got on them. And yes, they would also be spending those billions in cash to sue Linux software makers for "patent infringing", just to put them out of business, and lock the server side up even tighter than the desktop side.
Obviously, you didn't VTFA, as there was car references, as to the fact that you can't copyright the exterior design of them. The analogy regarding OSS having no copyright protection was a bit flawed, but considering the idea behind the GPL is to be copyleft, it was an understandable misinterpretation.
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But yeah, like OP says, you can't expect him to want to code just because he loves to game.
Just as you can love to drive cars and not want to be a mechanic. Or love sex but not want to be a father. Or love food and not want to be a chef. etc. etc. etc.
Dell mobility has those motorola's for a dollar...
Thank you! I hit my 2 year mark in a month, and the wife and I both have our eyes on the Droid: me so I can ssh in and work from remote, the wife because, well, she just like shiny new toys. Now I can go buy a bunch of $25 games with the $200 I will save ;)
Every GM is a government produced car, as the US owns 60% of GM right now. That is scheduled to be sold off, but as of today, it is still a true fact.
And while my Libertarian self doesn't like what is going on in DC right now, your last sentence is just pure FUD. It isn't like the GOP is any better than the Dems when it comes to trying to find ways to interfere with your life, they just try to interfere with different aspects.
I only buy primary systems every 4-5 years as well, and tend to buy high quality, although not the fastest processor or video. My one year old system runs a Q9550, which I bought just after the i7s came out. Video is a Radion HD4600, not top end but still quite good. While it wasn't highest end, a Q9550 is still a damn good processor by today's standards, as is the HD4600. The rest of the system is solid quality, dual DVD burners, 8mb ram, etc. I DO tend to upgrade the video card about 3 years in. Before discounts, I had about $1800 in the system with a 24" LCD, which is upper middle price range.
By delaying gratification, I am mainly talking about software, games, although it did apply to my hardware to a lesser degree. It only makes sense to buy quality hardware, although the fastest isn't usually the best value.
However it leads to being a social outcast.
That is a valid point for someone under 25, but I'm in my 40s, albeit not typical, as I still game regularly and enjoy new technology on a regular basis. I also fish and garden a bit to make sure I get some exercise. I don't game socially (multi-player) very often simply because the demands of family and work make it difficult to schedule gaming, but I still play at least an hour a day. For most of us over 30, delaying gratification works out to save some money. This means when the rare something new comes out and I just MUST HAVE IT NOW, I don't feel so bad spending the money, as that is the exception rather than the rule.
The use of "Howard" is a quote from the movie "Heros" with Henry Winkler and Sally Fields, in Winkler's first post-Happy Days movie. Yes, very old reference, 1977.
I concur. I just set my watch back one year and save thousands of dollars on everything. New games $50? Nope, mine are $25. New processor $300? Nope, mine are $100 and runs my one year old games perfectly. My last "new" car was $30k new but I bought it with 8k miles and just under 1 year old for $20k with full warranty. I'm about to buy a pair of Motorola Droids, which I can get for $99-$199 for both (2y contract, yes). It doesn't always pay off, but on average it saves up tremendously without sacrificing anything but a little time.
The net results is that I actually can buy MORE toys for the same money. Delayed gratification can be a beautiful thing.
I thought the deity's name was "Howard", as in "Our Father who 'art in heaven, Howard be thy name".
Okay, I'll bite. If DRM can't last, why is it still common more than 3 decades into the PC era?
Why did Prohibition last for years? Why is marijuana still illegal yet more available than ever? And as you point out, the Cuban Embargo is still in effect. Just because a bunch of companies are doing something, that doesn't mean it isn't stupid, nor does it mean they will continue to do it forever.
I do expect they will always have some form of DRM to prevent casual pirating, such as this method of one time registration, which is fine as that doesn't affect the ongoing playability of the game. What I expect will disappear is the Ubisoft style that actually can kick you out of the game while you are playing because of a 2 second glitch in your internet connection.
hank your deity that Google doesn't have the same draconian control over their store as Apple.
More fanboy trolls. Even Steve Jobs says that Google doesn't have the same "draconian control", leading him to the famous, "if you want porn, get an Android" comment. I can see why you posted this FUD as AC.
woosh!
You aren't really smarter than other people, you just think you are.
So Google and Firefox should have to use Windows Update? Perl, Cygwin should too? This is patently absurd. Perhaps then Microsoft could just say "No, we don't like you, so no updates from our servers, which means no updates".
These companies don't "code for Windows", they write software that runs on multiple platforms, such as Linux, OS X and Windows. They don't need to "work with Microsoft" because it isn't Microsoft's fucking business, only the operating system is. They are COMPETITORS to Microsoft. Firefox competes with IE. Google competes with IE, Bing, MSN, and even Windows itself on multiple platforms. iTunes is owned by Apple, who competes with the iPod (vs. Zune) and OS X.
If I were Google and MS said I had to go through WU for patches, I would have them in court before you could snap your fingers. That or just laugh in their faces. All the software that runs on your system isn't a single thing, to be controlled by a single company. This more than silly, it is unworkable, intolerable and likely illegal. You need to think it about it just a bit more.
And honestly, how long would it take a computer to bruteforce a 4-digit numeric password???
Forever! There must be like a million possible combinations!
"If you have information which leads to the arrest or conviction of a distributor of child porn you will be rewarded 500,000 yen."
Might want to up the reward, that's less than $5k American, which won't rent you a crappy apartment in downtown Toyko for a month.
So, Windows should be more like Linux then?
Can't Microsoft put their foot down and ask anybody who want to do update to work with them ?
Oh yea, MS should put their foot down and tell them "if you want your 3rd party program to be installed on customer's computers, you have to go through us. No more 3rd party applications installed unless it is through us or at least done our way". No, that wouldn't perk up the DOJ. And I'm sure that everyone on /. and every other blog would say "yes, that sounds like a good idea".
Once they did that, the thread on /. would have 1000 comments in less than an hour bashing "Teh Micr0$ucks!"
Or connect the drive inside any computer running a Prescott P4 with 100% CPU utilization.
That's pretty funny. Yes, the act of accelerating doesn't change the mass, assuming we aren't approaching the speed of light. There would be a slight increase in the discreet number of pieces after it hits the ocean, however.
I still don't like the idea of not getting the test platform back. Some museum would be happy to show one of these someday, after 20 or 30 years when the technology is less classified. And you would have to think that they would get more info by putting their hands on the spent vehicle. There is no way you can have sensors for every square inch of the platform. The idea that they ditch and forget the platform just doesn't sound right.
Not only that, but you can't always be sure which part is the weak link, what will break. A few tests at hypersonic is guaranteed to make an engineer say "ok, that's an issue we weren't aware of", and confirm much of what they already knew. They may have to make some part that they *thought* would be ok out of a different, stronger alloy, etc. Of course, at this speed, every tiny error in engineering is amplified, as at Mach 6, you cross a lot of real estate in just a few seconds, so the word "precision" doesn't adequately describe the level of perfection required in the test system build.
Being a pioneer at anything guarantees surprises, and best of all, learning new things.
One of the few programming languages that requires you have a Ph.D. to write a 'hello world' script.
WTF could be easier? And with a UID that low, I have to wonder if you bought it off Ebay after you said that.
Transmission of information through labels.....that is news for nerds, since when?
Since it concerns Sir Tim, the guy who literally invented the web. If Linus Torvald was hired to design the new Chevy Camero, it would also be news worthy on /. When important people in the technology industry do interesting things that may or may not be directly related to actually compiling code, some of us nerds like to know.
Really? They used to charge manufacturers for every computer they sold whether or not it had windows, this is a fact. They have already said that Linux infringes on their patents, this is a fact. Assuming they would continue to charge manufacturers or pursue lawsuits on their "intellectual property" if they weren't restrained in some way isn't FUD, it is logical deduction.
Most people on /. are technical persons, and I wouldn't have to give them these direct links. Most people, including people like myself who actually use some Microsoft products, already have come to the same conclusion, that Microsoft has abused it's monopoly in the past and would likely do so even more if not for being partially restrained. No fear mongering needed, history speaks for itself.
They are still on the hook for infringement already committed - or at least could be, if the copyright holders want to pursue it.
I would think that the FSF wants to encourage people to use the GPL and distribute software with the license, which increases mind share. That in mind, I can't ever see them suing a company if they will quickly rectify the problem with (preferably) keeping the software available but also the source and other rights to be granted, or (less preferable) to quit distributing the software. I don't see Apple trying to argue or drag this out for some protracted period anyway. There is no advantage for the FSF to get nitpicky about previous distribution if the mistake was innocent enough and quickly taken care of, and it would actually work against them in the long run to be jerks about it, as Apple and others may just avoid all GPL software, thus making developers less likely to use a free license.
When will we end the hypocrisy? Leave Microsoft alone, and go after the real evil... Apple.
This is the same logic that got us involved in Iraq, when the big problem was in Afghanistan. If Microsoft were left to its own devices, every computer maker would still be paying for a copy of a Windows license, even on computers that didn't have a copy of Windows on it. Like they already did before DOJ got on them. And yes, they would also be spending those billions in cash to sue Linux software makers for "patent infringing", just to put them out of business, and lock the server side up even tighter than the desktop side.
Obviously, you didn't VTFA, as there was car references, as to the fact that you can't copyright the exterior design of them. The analogy regarding OSS having no copyright protection was a bit flawed, but considering the idea behind the GPL is to be copyleft, it was an understandable misinterpretation.