I've run OS/2 in 4mb of ram. It was laughable. It would boot fine, as long as you didn't run apps. It was adequate with 8mb of ram, but only that. If you had the RAM, OS/2 kicked ass, it was just ahead of its time vs. what was affordable in the hardware to run it. Way better, and earlier than Win95, too bad IBM has a history of shooting itself in its own marketing foot.
Half of the money for interstates comes from the state, not the feds. And the feds are fine helping with some interstates, the Constitution grants that authority under the "interstate commerce" clause. I drive a lot in NC, TX, VA, and the state highways aren't bad, so not sure where you live.
It used to be that scientific research was done by Universities (state supported) and private enterprise. I don't think that is such a bad thing. After the fiasco with the govt. "investing" in solar technology, I think they have demonstrated they aren't very good at "investing", only at padding the pockets of whoever is padding theirs.
Everything in your list is something that the individual states provide, NOT the federal government. Or at least it used to be that way.
If I have a problem with local roads, police, schools, etc. then I should be able to go to my city, or at the very worst, my state capital to protest. When the Federal government takes stuff over, no one will listen unless I pad their pockets with cash.
Maybe the problem is that the federal government has too many employees to start with. They don't generate wealth or create jobs, so maybe we could start with getting rid of a bunch of those jobs. Starting with the TSA. Next we move to the Drug Czar's office, then the Department of Education.
Nostalgia is a deceptive mistress. It tends to glorify things that weren't objectively good but carry sentimental feelings.
Very true, like how we remember the good things a relative did when they pass away, and forget how they used to bop you in the head to take your place on the couch. Or worse. We do tend to glorify our own past, to romanticize it. And again, I don't want to go back there, but I'm certainly glad I got to experience it first hand. I would like to think it makes be a better technician, at the very least, because I understand that behind the pretty do-clickies is just a bunch of copper and iron, swapping out 0s and 1s.
And I think it gives me a deeper appreciation than someone whose first computer was running XP, and came out of a pretty box that had a large sign showing you how to connect the power cable, and to plug the green plug into the green port, purple cable into the purple port, etc. From my experience, younger people are quicker to accept the stated "limitations" of a given system, instead of having a curiosity about it, and a desire to work around those limitations. They are less likely to dig into the startup section of the registry and disable half the crap you really don't need. They are more likely to have multiple toolbars in their browser. They tend to think that the power of the system is limited only by the CPU, the GPU and the RAM, instead of the chipsets, the running services, and the devices. Not all, but way too many that actually try to make a living working on the same computers they don't really understand.
I don't think it really matters where you are in time, you'll look much the same on the past, present and future.
Yes and no. While 47, I always had a computer, but I was always in the minority until around 2000. I'm at a perfect age (and profession) that I remember when the company I work for, and have since 1993 (I was 29), first went online in 1997. Then we went full ecommerce in 2000 and changed the entire structure of the company, from being a local seller, to a regional power, to a manufacturer, to now being one of the largest in our industry and selling in all 50 states, and we still have the rest of the globe to work on (not easy for our products). Back in 1993, no one knew what email was except those of us that ran a FidoNet link.
Someone who is 29 today isn't going to be able to have the same experiences at all, nor learn the same lessons. Every two bit company is on the internet at one level or another, but back then, we were cutting edge, and compared to the rest of our industry, we still are. Anyone can be "global" by putting crap on eBay now. It isn't the same. Around 1995-2005 began an era that is unique in history, where MOST people have a computer, and MOST people can access the Internet. Where it went from an obscure hobby for nerds, to being a major part of how housewives live their normal lives. And that isn't even covering "the cell phone" which came to rise in the same era.
Yes, computers will get faster, and they look back at our i5-2500k CPUs and laugh, but it isn't about speed, it is about society and how we do every day things. Not just computers, but cheap, powerful HOME and BUSINESS computers (and now phones) plus cheap Internet access combined, changed the way we do business, entertainment, the way we do everything. Even porn. Those kind of changes don't come along every 10 years. To find another "product" that literally changed everything, you have to go back to the TV, then Radio, and perhaps the refrigerator (yes, the frig, which jumped up life expectancy dramatically). It might be 10 years, or 50 years before something comes along that changes everything again, until then, we are just improving what we have. Adding color to TVs, FM to radios. Ice makers to refrigerators. Right now, Facebook, iPads, and supersmart phones are just extensions of this ongoing era that began at the lucky intersection when computer speed met the availability of the Internet for the public.
I remember installing OS/2, the bullet proof OS. I wanted to see how long it took to crash it. Not long, I found. Less than 3 seconds. But still, it was cool. But it wasn't command line, justifying every single byte of memory, using EzyCom BBS software and creating a RAM drive exactly the same size as the overlay, so the three instances could share it. OS/2 was cool if you have too much RAM, and it started the whole "the operating system is an application" era, more so than even Windows did, in my view. That was the beginning of the end of computers as pure hobby, imho.
Yes you can. Public domain means you give up all rights: period. This means anyone can copyright a modified version of your work, or technically, an unmodified version as well. They can't take away your giving it into the Public Domain, but once you put it in the Public Domain you have ZERO RIGHTS to enforce it, because it is no longer licensed by you. Only those "harmed" could ever sue for their right to use Public Domain. Do your homework AC. Public Domain means it is owned by EVERYONE, and EVERYONE can do ANYTHING they want with it. Including copyrighting their own version of it.
PD isn't exactly anti-copyright. Technically, you can take a Public Domain work, change it (even a little, add a space), and copyright it yourself. It is more of a "copyright irrelevant" non-license. You don't have to worry or think about copyright at all, if you choose. Literally, you, me, and everyone here can all claim copyright on virtually the same Public Domain work, legally.
Of course, if you copyright it, you can't take away anyone's right to copy or use the Public Domain version all they want.
Depends, if they were Evangelical Kopimists, then the GNU/GPL is the only TRUE gospel. Not only do you accept It into your life, but you must spread the word in all your earthly works.
The ones that follow the Creative Commons are like the people who only go to church on Christmas and Easter. They aren't real believers, they are "just in case it is true, at least I will get into heaven" believers.
I am, so that likely brings the total of excited people up to 6, maybe 7. Everyone else is busy marveling over their iPad and iPhone (oooh, round corners....) and other walled gardens. Like you, I miss being able to actually communicate directly to the hardware, from the command line. I miss hand tweaking my config.sys and autoexec.bat files to squeeze out an extra 500 bytes (yea readers, 1/2 of a kb) of lower RAM. Using QEMM and DesqView to quazi-multitask by multiple line BBS on my 486 with 4mb of ram. (3 lines, but I still have plenty of ram left for a prompt to do maintenance while monitoring chat) There was a certain empowerment that came from operating a computer back then. We actually knew exactly how much power the system had, because we easily found ways to saturate it, just to get every ounce of power out of it. Back then, we did things just because we COULD, and we enjoyed learned from crashing and burning stuff.
I also remember the good old days when the Internet was hard to use. THOSE were the days. No spam, no popups, and if you could find a website, likely it had real information on it because only computer "experts" and universities had servers. The days before the "Browser Wars", when every Congressman didn't know what the Internet was, instead of now where they know what it is, but still have no idea what it is. And who could forget BBSes, Gopher, and Veronica, Archie, and password protected FTP accounts brimming with goodies like Wolfenstein....:)
That said, I don't MISS those days, but at 47, I'm glad I got to be a part of those days, and the days before that with CPM, portable computers with 8086s that weighed 50 pounds, original Macs, and even a VIC 20 with no storage device. You can't recreate them, or duplicate them, so those days are gone for good. It's up to us to create new ideas to eventually become "the good old days".
That is true, there are exceptions on Steam. They have to walk the line between satisfying customers and getting vendors to use their system. On the whole, they have been able to reduce the DRM burden for games, but not for all games. What matters most is they are using their market position to reduce DRM hassles for gamers. Gabe has been on the record more than once saying that he doesn't worry about piracy so much as he worries about providing a good platform that people are willing to pay for. He (and thus, Steam) has his priorities in the right order. It's a good start, and hopefully others who want to copy his success may consider copying his methods.
You don't have to create a unix user for every user in order to use PAM or the other utilities to hash a password, it only has to be PAM-aware. And I wasn't really looking porn sites, I was talking about sites like Slashdot, CNet, NYT, you know, real sites with arguably real programmers behind the scene. If you are dumb enough to get a user account on a porn website (like there isn't enough free porn on the web...) then that is your problem.
I was going to say something similar. I don't like DRM, but at least Steam puts the user first and DRM second. It may sound like a fanboy, but I buy lots of Steam games under $5 that I typically play for a few hours and get bored with. You know what? I got my $5 worth out of them, and helped support the least oppressive method of DRM out there.
I "get" that game producers need some way to insure they make a profit and not make pirating too easy. Yes, they should make better games, yes, many of them have prices that are ridiculous, and obviously one pirated game does NOT equal one sale lost, blah blah blah. I just choose not to buy those games that use oppressive DRM and try to buy games with little or none. (they are out there) But for main stream games, at least Steam makes the experience seemless and supports the games after the sale. I still play TFC and HL1 once in a blue moon, they are from over a decade ago, and they are still supported. I have pirated a few games in my almost 50 years, but now it is "cheaper" to buy them on Steam, if you consider the value of my time to keep the games up to date, find, patch, install, patch, etc.
At least Steam is trying to bridge the gap between producers and consumers, without shafting the consumers. And yes, it is hard to beat their sale price. Well, gotta go and play Plants vs. Zombies, bought it from them for $3.39 earlier this week....
Try reading the FAQ here, like you would any site if you were wondering the source of the site, at http://slashdot.org/faq , in the Editorial section. I clearly asks and answers:
Note: Slashdot seems to be very U.S.-centric. [snip]
Reply: Slashdot is U.S.-centric. We readily admit this, and really don't see it as a problem.
What are you basing this on? A guess? Most websites use *nix, and all versions of *nix have built in facilities for storing passwords as hashes. It would take more effort to make them store the passwords as words.
Most websites don't store your password, just a hash of it. When you enter the password, it hashes what you just entered then compares the hashes. Reverse engineering the password when you only have the hash isn't trivial.
I know lots of Tea Partiers, and even attended one of their rallies. I'm not one of them but at least I know wtf I'm talking about. None of ones I know are 1%ers. 5%ers perhaps, but not 1%ers. None are pulling in a million a year. Are they more successful than average? Yes, by a good margin, and many are self employed. Last time I checked, that was a desirable goal in the USA.
...they will no doubt try to make themselves looks a hero for not screwing us over by adding that charge. Yes, us. I was already looking at other carriers, only for the principle of charging us more for costing them less.
This is as bad as when the phone company charged $4 a month for "touch tone service" when it actually costs them less to provide it than to deal with pulse dialing.
3d is new. we need to wait a bit and filmmakers will come up with stuff that makes 3d as indispensible as audio.
I would agree, and say the same is true with color. Young Frankenstein and Schindler's List demonstrated that you don't HAVE to use color, and that the lack of it can actually add to the experience. Same with 3D. The problem now is they are experimenting with it, throwing 3D at every movie that may (or may not) benefit from it, and they are far from figuring out the best use of the technology.
Some (if not most) types of movies will always be better as a 2D experience, just as some types of movies are better in black and white. They are just overdoing it with 3D right now, while the "genre" is being developed.
That is what our Belgian host told us, that they were common in Belgium in public areas. Here in the US, acceptance wouldn't be so forthcoming, particularly in the Southern areas. We expect a degree of that in urban bus stations and the like, but not if a Stuckeys or Cracker Barrel (our more common highway side eateries) did that, people would be pissed off and leave. Even truck stops won't do that here. Keep in mind, I'm talking about places that aren't urban (both here and in Belgium) so I'm not sure the reasoning given earlier (to keep out the homeless) really applies. If you don't have change (I NEVER carry change) and you run into one of those, what can do? Piss in the sink or the corner? Not worth the extra cleanup to collect a quarter.
When I flew into Brussels (yes, not USA), we then drove to Hasselt, and stopped for coffee and breakfast at a nice clean roadside "buffet" (European style, not American style). Can't remember the name, but it's a chain, nice clean place. Anyway, if you don't eat there, they charge you to use the bathroom, like half a Euro. They have an attendant there who checks your receipt or charges you if you don't have one. My American friend and I were dumbfounded. We live in the Carolinas, where pay toilets are almost unheard of, even in the city.
Not me, I'm wondering nissanusa.com doesn't lead me to a computer store. Nissan Computers has been around way before Datsun changed their name to Nissan, and at least the computer store is a USA company. He should sue them.....and win.
I don't know if it is "Christian propaganda" or not, but how the hell is it "News for Nerds, Stuff That Matters"? I mean, is it made of Legos, does it run Linux, or at the very least, is SCO or the RIAA suing them?
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I've run OS/2 in 4mb of ram. It was laughable. It would boot fine, as long as you didn't run apps. It was adequate with 8mb of ram, but only that. If you had the RAM, OS/2 kicked ass, it was just ahead of its time vs. what was affordable in the hardware to run it. Way better, and earlier than Win95, too bad IBM has a history of shooting itself in its own marketing foot.
Half of the money for interstates comes from the state, not the feds. And the feds are fine helping with some interstates, the Constitution grants that authority under the "interstate commerce" clause. I drive a lot in NC, TX, VA, and the state highways aren't bad, so not sure where you live.
It used to be that scientific research was done by Universities (state supported) and private enterprise. I don't think that is such a bad thing. After the fiasco with the govt. "investing" in solar technology, I think they have demonstrated they aren't very good at "investing", only at padding the pockets of whoever is padding theirs.
Everything in your list is something that the individual states provide, NOT the federal government. Or at least it used to be that way.
If I have a problem with local roads, police, schools, etc. then I should be able to go to my city, or at the very worst, my state capital to protest. When the Federal government takes stuff over, no one will listen unless I pad their pockets with cash.
Maybe the problem is that the federal government has too many employees to start with. They don't generate wealth or create jobs, so maybe we could start with getting rid of a bunch of those jobs. Starting with the TSA. Next we move to the Drug Czar's office, then the Department of Education.
Nostalgia is a deceptive mistress. It tends to glorify things that weren't objectively good but carry sentimental feelings.
Very true, like how we remember the good things a relative did when they pass away, and forget how they used to bop you in the head to take your place on the couch. Or worse. We do tend to glorify our own past, to romanticize it. And again, I don't want to go back there, but I'm certainly glad I got to experience it first hand. I would like to think it makes be a better technician, at the very least, because I understand that behind the pretty do-clickies is just a bunch of copper and iron, swapping out 0s and 1s.
And I think it gives me a deeper appreciation than someone whose first computer was running XP, and came out of a pretty box that had a large sign showing you how to connect the power cable, and to plug the green plug into the green port, purple cable into the purple port, etc. From my experience, younger people are quicker to accept the stated "limitations" of a given system, instead of having a curiosity about it, and a desire to work around those limitations. They are less likely to dig into the startup section of the registry and disable half the crap you really don't need. They are more likely to have multiple toolbars in their browser. They tend to think that the power of the system is limited only by the CPU, the GPU and the RAM, instead of the chipsets, the running services, and the devices. Not all, but way too many that actually try to make a living working on the same computers they don't really understand.
I don't think it really matters where you are in time, you'll look much the same on the past, present and future.
Yes and no. While 47, I always had a computer, but I was always in the minority until around 2000. I'm at a perfect age (and profession) that I remember when the company I work for, and have since 1993 (I was 29), first went online in 1997. Then we went full ecommerce in 2000 and changed the entire structure of the company, from being a local seller, to a regional power, to a manufacturer, to now being one of the largest in our industry and selling in all 50 states, and we still have the rest of the globe to work on (not easy for our products). Back in 1993, no one knew what email was except those of us that ran a FidoNet link.
Someone who is 29 today isn't going to be able to have the same experiences at all, nor learn the same lessons. Every two bit company is on the internet at one level or another, but back then, we were cutting edge, and compared to the rest of our industry, we still are. Anyone can be "global" by putting crap on eBay now. It isn't the same. Around 1995-2005 began an era that is unique in history, where MOST people have a computer, and MOST people can access the Internet. Where it went from an obscure hobby for nerds, to being a major part of how housewives live their normal lives. And that isn't even covering "the cell phone" which came to rise in the same era.
Yes, computers will get faster, and they look back at our i5-2500k CPUs and laugh, but it isn't about speed, it is about society and how we do every day things. Not just computers, but cheap, powerful HOME and BUSINESS computers (and now phones) plus cheap Internet access combined, changed the way we do business, entertainment, the way we do everything. Even porn. Those kind of changes don't come along every 10 years. To find another "product" that literally changed everything, you have to go back to the TV, then Radio, and perhaps the refrigerator (yes, the frig, which jumped up life expectancy dramatically). It might be 10 years, or 50 years before something comes along that changes everything again, until then, we are just improving what we have. Adding color to TVs, FM to radios. Ice makers to refrigerators. Right now, Facebook, iPads, and supersmart phones are just extensions of this ongoing era that began at the lucky intersection when computer speed met the availability of the Internet for the public.
I remember installing OS/2, the bullet proof OS. I wanted to see how long it took to crash it. Not long, I found. Less than 3 seconds. But still, it was cool. But it wasn't command line, justifying every single byte of memory, using EzyCom BBS software and creating a RAM drive exactly the same size as the overlay, so the three instances could share it. OS/2 was cool if you have too much RAM, and it started the whole "the operating system is an application" era, more so than even Windows did, in my view. That was the beginning of the end of computers as pure hobby, imho.
No, you can't.
Yes you can. Public domain means you give up all rights: period. This means anyone can copyright a modified version of your work, or technically, an unmodified version as well. They can't take away your giving it into the Public Domain, but once you put it in the Public Domain you have ZERO RIGHTS to enforce it, because it is no longer licensed by you. Only those "harmed" could ever sue for their right to use Public Domain. Do your homework AC. Public Domain means it is owned by EVERYONE, and EVERYONE can do ANYTHING they want with it. Including copyrighting their own version of it.
PD isn't exactly anti-copyright. Technically, you can take a Public Domain work, change it (even a little, add a space), and copyright it yourself. It is more of a "copyright irrelevant" non-license. You don't have to worry or think about copyright at all, if you choose. Literally, you, me, and everyone here can all claim copyright on virtually the same Public Domain work, legally.
Of course, if you copyright it, you can't take away anyone's right to copy or use the Public Domain version all they want.
Depends, if they were Evangelical Kopimists, then the GNU/GPL is the only TRUE gospel. Not only do you accept It into your life, but you must spread the word in all your earthly works.
The ones that follow the Creative Commons are like the people who only go to church on Christmas and Easter. They aren't real believers, they are "just in case it is true, at least I will get into heaven" believers.
I am, so that likely brings the total of excited people up to 6, maybe 7. Everyone else is busy marveling over their iPad and iPhone (oooh, round corners....) and other walled gardens. Like you, I miss being able to actually communicate directly to the hardware, from the command line. I miss hand tweaking my config.sys and autoexec.bat files to squeeze out an extra 500 bytes (yea readers, 1/2 of a kb) of lower RAM. Using QEMM and DesqView to quazi-multitask by multiple line BBS on my 486 with 4mb of ram. (3 lines, but I still have plenty of ram left for a prompt to do maintenance while monitoring chat) There was a certain empowerment that came from operating a computer back then. We actually knew exactly how much power the system had, because we easily found ways to saturate it, just to get every ounce of power out of it. Back then, we did things just because we COULD, and we enjoyed learned from crashing and burning stuff.
I also remember the good old days when the Internet was hard to use. THOSE were the days. No spam, no popups, and if you could find a website, likely it had real information on it because only computer "experts" and universities had servers. The days before the "Browser Wars", when every Congressman didn't know what the Internet was, instead of now where they know what it is, but still have no idea what it is. And who could forget BBSes, Gopher, and Veronica, Archie, and password protected FTP accounts brimming with goodies like Wolfenstein.... :)
That said, I don't MISS those days, but at 47, I'm glad I got to be a part of those days, and the days before that with CPM, portable computers with 8086s that weighed 50 pounds, original Macs, and even a VIC 20 with no storage device. You can't recreate them, or duplicate them, so those days are gone for good. It's up to us to create new ideas to eventually become "the good old days".
That is true, there are exceptions on Steam. They have to walk the line between satisfying customers and getting vendors to use their system. On the whole, they have been able to reduce the DRM burden for games, but not for all games. What matters most is they are using their market position to reduce DRM hassles for gamers. Gabe has been on the record more than once saying that he doesn't worry about piracy so much as he worries about providing a good platform that people are willing to pay for. He (and thus, Steam) has his priorities in the right order. It's a good start, and hopefully others who want to copy his success may consider copying his methods.
You don't have to create a unix user for every user in order to use PAM or the other utilities to hash a password, it only has to be PAM-aware. And I wasn't really looking porn sites, I was talking about sites like Slashdot, CNet, NYT, you know, real sites with arguably real programmers behind the scene. If you are dumb enough to get a user account on a porn website (like there isn't enough free porn on the web...) then that is your problem.
I was going to say something similar. I don't like DRM, but at least Steam puts the user first and DRM second. It may sound like a fanboy, but I buy lots of Steam games under $5 that I typically play for a few hours and get bored with. You know what? I got my $5 worth out of them, and helped support the least oppressive method of DRM out there.
I "get" that game producers need some way to insure they make a profit and not make pirating too easy. Yes, they should make better games, yes, many of them have prices that are ridiculous, and obviously one pirated game does NOT equal one sale lost, blah blah blah. I just choose not to buy those games that use oppressive DRM and try to buy games with little or none. (they are out there) But for main stream games, at least Steam makes the experience seemless and supports the games after the sale. I still play TFC and HL1 once in a blue moon, they are from over a decade ago, and they are still supported. I have pirated a few games in my almost 50 years, but now it is "cheaper" to buy them on Steam, if you consider the value of my time to keep the games up to date, find, patch, install, patch, etc.
At least Steam is trying to bridge the gap between producers and consumers, without shafting the consumers. And yes, it is hard to beat their sale price. Well, gotta go and play Plants vs. Zombies, bought it from them for $3.39 earlier this week....
What so this is a US site now?
Try reading the FAQ here, like you would any site if you were wondering the source of the site, at http://slashdot.org/faq , in the Editorial section. I clearly asks and answers:
Note: Slashdot seems to be very U.S.-centric. [snip]
Reply: Slashdot is U.S.-centric. We readily admit this, and really don't see it as a problem.
Then it goes on to explain why.
He would never do that......
What are you basing this on? A guess? Most websites use *nix, and all versions of *nix have built in facilities for storing passwords as hashes. It would take more effort to make them store the passwords as words.
Most websites don't store your password, just a hash of it. When you enter the password, it hashes what you just entered then compares the hashes. Reverse engineering the password when you only have the hash isn't trivial.
I know lots of Tea Partiers, and even attended one of their rallies. I'm not one of them but at least I know wtf I'm talking about. None of ones I know are 1%ers. 5%ers perhaps, but not 1%ers. None are pulling in a million a year. Are they more successful than average? Yes, by a good margin, and many are self employed. Last time I checked, that was a desirable goal in the USA.
To stereotype this way is just ignorance.
...they will no doubt try to make themselves looks a hero for not screwing us over by adding that charge. Yes, us. I was already looking at other carriers, only for the principle of charging us more for costing them less.
This is as bad as when the phone company charged $4 a month for "touch tone service" when it actually costs them less to provide it than to deal with pulse dialing.
3d is new. we need to wait a bit and filmmakers will come up with stuff that makes 3d as indispensible as audio.
I would agree, and say the same is true with color. Young Frankenstein and Schindler's List demonstrated that you don't HAVE to use color, and that the lack of it can actually add to the experience. Same with 3D. The problem now is they are experimenting with it, throwing 3D at every movie that may (or may not) benefit from it, and they are far from figuring out the best use of the technology.
Some (if not most) types of movies will always be better as a 2D experience, just as some types of movies are better in black and white. They are just overdoing it with 3D right now, while the "genre" is being developed.
That is what our Belgian host told us, that they were common in Belgium in public areas. Here in the US, acceptance wouldn't be so forthcoming, particularly in the Southern areas. We expect a degree of that in urban bus stations and the like, but not if a Stuckeys or Cracker Barrel (our more common highway side eateries) did that, people would be pissed off and leave. Even truck stops won't do that here. Keep in mind, I'm talking about places that aren't urban (both here and in Belgium) so I'm not sure the reasoning given earlier (to keep out the homeless) really applies. If you don't have change (I NEVER carry change) and you run into one of those, what can do? Piss in the sink or the corner? Not worth the extra cleanup to collect a quarter.
When I flew into Brussels (yes, not USA), we then drove to Hasselt, and stopped for coffee and breakfast at a nice clean roadside "buffet" (European style, not American style). Can't remember the name, but it's a chain, nice clean place. Anyway, if you don't eat there, they charge you to use the bathroom, like half a Euro. They have an attendant there who checks your receipt or charges you if you don't have one. My American friend and I were dumbfounded. We live in the Carolinas, where pay toilets are almost unheard of, even in the city.
Not me, I'm wondering nissanusa.com doesn't lead me to a computer store. Nissan Computers has been around way before Datsun changed their name to Nissan, and at least the computer store is a USA company. He should sue them.....and win.
I don't know if it is "Christian propaganda" or not, but how the hell is it "News for Nerds, Stuff That Matters"? I mean, is it made of Legos, does it run Linux, or at the very least, is SCO or the RIAA suing them?