I'd like to see a standard established for the system administrative interface. Of the two major commercial distributions for Linux being RedHat and SuSE, I'm not fond of the RedHat approach of a bunch of disparate tools called "system-config-splat". On the other hand, SuSE has been very consistent with their use of YaST across the versions, and provide a text mode interface for those situations where you have to network into a system to perform management. The RedHat "system-config-splat" tools require a GUI, and tunneling GUI over an ssh connection is slow. YaST is rich with plugins for managing virtually all aspects of a Linux system. RedHat and "system-config-splat" is lacking in that area. By making Linux easier to manage, then it will be adopted by more inexperienced shops. This will win over the Windows admins. And face it, when it comes time for OS selection, the IT Team has a lot of say over what gets installed on the systems.
I work for a large financial company and we currently use citrix for remote access. We're using an RSA token at the citrix login, besides a regular password. Once connected, (via my firefox web-browser on OpenSuse 10.2 Linux, and yes, SuSE has the citrix plugins, even had an RPM in my old SuSE 9.2 Pro system), I can access my Lotus Notes, email , documents, and we have metaframe installed. I can open remote-host access from the citrix web and remote access a GUI desktop (xdm) on a Solaris gateway host, full X11. Preformance is reasonable, I'm running about 4Mb download speed over a comcast cable modem. In previous companies we always used remote ssh, some with the sshd configured for RSA token support. And that was fine for text based work. Unfortunately, not all 3rd party software provides good command line interface. This has forced us to use some form of remote X11 desktop access. I'm fairly pleased with the remote Citrix access. I'm anxious to see what Citrix is going to with Xen. I'm running Xen on redhat 5, and on OpenSuse 10.2. We're currently using vmware GSX server and workstation in the office. I'm very pleased with the command-line access of Xen, and the ease of which to configure and resize virtual disks and VM's. I can clone Xen VM's with a script, making a "one-button" clone, and automatically adjusting all the new clone system specifics', like VM nic mac address, hostname, etc. Could never do that on VMWare. Just imagine the possiblities if Citrix integrates Xen. You could have one-button VM creation, then disconnect, go home & reconnect and resume your work on the newly created VM, all thru a web-browser. Geeze, I wonder if they could come up with an iPhone plugin?;-) An IT Administrator's DREAM!!!
I can't wait to see how he screws this up, just like he did at Alliant & the FX series super-computers! Geeze, he helps drive a company out of business, then becomes a microsloth bot, and I'm gonna let this moron run my cellphone? Don't think so!
I have been an ardent Suse fan for the past eight years. I appreciated the choices offered in desktop managers, as well as the free remote updates and the wonderful work done on YaST system management services. I didn't think much of the Novell buyout of Suse, but rather viewed it as a possible shot-in-the-arm to lend more support and visibility to Suse in the business world. This latest move by Novell disappoints me. I see this as a poorly directed business move, without regard to the existing user base. I run KDE because of the rich application support. I've tried Gnome on numerous occasions, but have found the application selection to be very weak. Now I'll have to find another release to use. Forget Redhat, it's crap, and it smells too much like M$. Guess I'll just have to jump into some hackerware release like Debian or Slackware.
Ever wonder how many of the chicken little's that are saying "Mac OS X will now be the death of Linux", are really microsloth weenies disguised as Mac OS X users?
Why not just setup a Linux partition and let her play with it? My wife and kids LOVE the games and enjoy just digging around finding out all the wonders of Linux. If you put SuSE on, the YaST2 makes management a snap, and you don't have to start off with teaching her to use vi for setting up the machine.
after reporting a failed cable box (and after having isolated it by swapping out with another box), the cable person insisted the problem was with my splitter; and she promptly removed it. Seeing that did not fix the problem, she finally replaced the cable box. I asked what ususally failed in the cable boxes and she said...are you ready for this?
"sometime the semiconductor gets scratched"...DOH!!!!
Hmm, lets see, group was started by Pres. Reagan effort to identify government waste (perhaps due to the flack he took over his "VooDoo Economics" & "trickle-down" policies), hmm, group is affiliated with republican parties, hmm, republican's favor big-business, hmm, M$ is big business, hmm, M$ doesn't like penguin's, hmm, is there a connection here?;-)
Being from the great state of IA myself, AND having spent many weekends up at the in-laws condo in Okaboji, I can speak first hand as to the nature of questions I receive when people up there find out I'm a computer geek.
When you're on vacation (of which a MAJORITY of folks up there are), you DON'T want any schedules, work, or being stuffed in front of a computer screen listening to some geek rattle off terms you don't understand. People are interested in playing and having fun. That should be your focus. Razzle them with wireless internet! Go to Arnolds park and arrange a wifi setup, then grap your laptop and a usb camera and do impromptu demo's, taking peoples pictures. Then have them walk over to the wifi computer, and for a small fee, they can have a color printout of their pictures. You could then do a quickie little demo of what's necessary to do wireless network in the home, and, at the same time, demo the neato-whiz-bang features of Linux! Then, if folks want a little seminar, THEN you'd give them the info to attend your lab & receive a 1 to 2hr overview & demo of Linux, wireless, etc. I'd LOVE to be there helping you set this up! Say a big "HI" to the folks of Iowa for me! -- Tom Sandholm --
It seems to me that you're looking to prototype on the NT platform, and construct the production environment on Unix. Tcl/TK is a wonderful tool that promotes rapid application development, and multi-platform (nt,unix, mac, etc). Whether you're aware of it or not, all of the major industry players have been using Tcl/tk in their products, Oracle with oratclsh, IBM with wscp (their tcl/tk interface to websphere), Vignette with the tcl/tk interface. Also, considering that Ajuba has placed TclPro in the open-source community, you can DL the Unix & NT version's for free. The really nice features of TclPro, is that it contains the tclcompiler (to byte-compile your tcl/tk code), and the tclwrapper (to wrap your code into a binary executable). Most of Tcl/Tk's libraries are cross-platform, though there are specific's to both arena's, (i.e. IPC on Unix & Registry calls on NT).
I'd suggest you start with modeling the product in Tcl/TK on the NT platform, ensuring you don't reference any NT specifics. Once you're happy with the model. Copy the code to your Unix system, confirm it still runs, then compile it up into a binary executable for distribution. BTW, there's some nice GUI IDE tools available for Tcl/Tk, I'm rather fond of SpecTcl, a GUI for building graphical user interfaces, that will also produce java & html output.
Good Luck!
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I'd like to see a standard established for the system administrative interface. Of the two major commercial distributions for Linux being RedHat and SuSE, I'm not fond of the RedHat approach of a bunch of disparate tools called "system-config-splat". On the other hand, SuSE has been very consistent with their use of YaST across the versions, and provide a text mode interface for those situations where you have to network into a system to perform management. The RedHat "system-config-splat" tools require a GUI, and tunneling GUI over an ssh connection is slow. YaST is rich with plugins for managing virtually all aspects of a Linux system. RedHat and "system-config-splat" is lacking in that area. By making Linux easier to manage, then it will be adopted by more inexperienced shops. This will win over the Windows admins. And face it, when it comes time for OS selection, the IT Team has a lot of say over what gets installed on the systems.
no significant difference between Fedora and Debian??
ahh, okay. Let me see now. Where did Debian hide all those system-config-* scripts?
I work for a large financial company and we currently use citrix for remote access. We're using an RSA token at the citrix login, besides a regular password. Once connected, (via my firefox web-browser on OpenSuse 10.2 Linux, and yes, SuSE has the citrix plugins, even had an RPM in my old SuSE 9.2 Pro system), I can access my Lotus Notes, email , documents, and we have metaframe installed. I can open remote-host access from the citrix web and remote access a GUI desktop (xdm) on a Solaris gateway host, full X11. Preformance is reasonable, I'm running about 4Mb download speed over a comcast cable modem. In previous companies we always used remote ssh, some with the sshd configured for RSA token support. And that was fine for text based work. Unfortunately, not all 3rd party software provides good command line interface. This has forced us to use some form of remote X11 desktop access. I'm fairly pleased with the remote Citrix access. I'm anxious to see what Citrix is going to with Xen. I'm running Xen on redhat 5, and on OpenSuse 10.2. We're currently using vmware GSX server and workstation in the office. I'm very pleased with the command-line access of Xen, and the ease of which to configure and resize virtual disks and VM's. I can clone Xen VM's with a script, making a "one-button" clone, and automatically adjusting all the new clone system specifics', like VM nic mac address, hostname, etc. Could never do that on VMWare. Just imagine the possiblities if Citrix integrates Xen. You could have one-button VM creation, then disconnect, go home & reconnect and resume your work on the newly created VM, all thru a web-browser. Geeze, I wonder if they could come up with an iPhone plugin? ;-) An IT Administrator's DREAM!!!
I can't wait to see how he screws this up,
just like he did at Alliant & the FX series super-computers!
Geeze, he helps drive a company out of business, then becomes a microsloth bot, and I'm gonna let this moron run my cellphone? Don't think so!
I understand that "Big-Boy" Ballmer has a patent on
"Throwing chairs at employees"
I want to know who has gotten the most injuries during the "busting".
I suspect Adam, due to his "nature".
Okay guys, who gets the titanium laptop?
I have been an ardent Suse fan for the past eight years. I appreciated the choices offered in desktop managers, as well as the free remote updates and the wonderful work done on YaST system management services. I didn't think much of the Novell buyout of Suse, but rather viewed it as a possible shot-in-the-arm to lend more support and visibility to Suse in the business world. This latest move by Novell disappoints me. I see this as a poorly directed business move, without regard to the existing user base. I run KDE because of the rich application support. I've tried Gnome on numerous occasions, but have found the application selection to be very weak. Now I'll have to find another release to use. Forget Redhat, it's crap, and it smells too much like M$. Guess I'll just have to jump into some hackerware release like Debian or Slackware.
Ever wonder how many of the chicken little's that are saying "Mac OS X will now be the death of Linux", are really microsloth weenies disguised as Mac OS X users?
Why not just setup a Linux partition and let her play with it? My wife and kids LOVE the games and enjoy just digging around finding out all the wonders of Linux. If you put SuSE on, the YaST2 makes management a snap, and you don't have to start off with teaching her to use vi for setting up the machine.
I Vote this to the top of the list!!!
after reporting a failed cable box (and after having isolated it by swapping out with another box), the cable person insisted the problem was with my splitter; and she promptly removed it. Seeing that did not fix the problem, she finally replaced the cable box. I asked what ususally failed in the cable boxes and she said...are you ready for this?
...DOH!!!!
"sometime the semiconductor gets scratched"
Hmm, wonder if ole Billy Bob Gates is piggybacking the network sniffing; trolling for pirate copies of winblowz?
Hmm, lets see, group was started by Pres. Reagan effort to identify government waste (perhaps due to the flack he took over his "VooDoo Economics" & "trickle-down" policies), hmm, group is affiliated with republican parties, hmm, republican's favor big-business, hmm, M$ is big business, hmm, M$ doesn't like penguin's, hmm, is there a connection here? ;-)
Being from the great state of IA myself, AND having spent many weekends up at the in-laws condo in Okaboji, I can speak first hand as to the nature of questions I receive when people up there find out I'm a computer geek.
When you're on vacation (of which a MAJORITY of folks up there are), you DON'T want any schedules, work, or being stuffed in front of a computer screen listening to some geek rattle off terms you don't understand. People are interested in playing and having fun. That should be your focus. Razzle them with wireless internet! Go to Arnolds park and arrange a wifi setup, then grap your laptop and a usb camera and do impromptu demo's, taking peoples pictures. Then have them walk over to the wifi computer, and for a small fee, they can have a color printout of their pictures. You could then do a quickie little demo of what's necessary to do wireless network in the home, and, at the same time, demo the neato-whiz-bang features of Linux! Then, if folks want a little seminar, THEN you'd give them the info to attend your lab & receive a 1 to 2hr overview & demo of Linux, wireless, etc.
I'd LOVE to be there helping you set this up!
Say a big "HI" to the folks of Iowa for me!
-- Tom Sandholm --
It seems to me that you're looking to prototype on the NT platform, and construct the production environment on Unix. Tcl/TK is a wonderful tool that promotes rapid application development, and multi-platform (nt,unix, mac, etc). Whether you're aware of it or not, all of the major industry players have been using Tcl/tk in their products, Oracle with oratclsh, IBM with wscp (their tcl/tk interface to websphere), Vignette with the tcl/tk interface. Also, considering that Ajuba has placed TclPro in the open-source community, you can DL the Unix & NT version's for free. The really nice features of TclPro, is that it contains the tclcompiler (to byte-compile your tcl/tk code), and the tclwrapper (to wrap your code into a binary executable). Most of Tcl/Tk's libraries are cross-platform, though there are specific's to both arena's, (i.e. IPC on Unix & Registry calls on NT).
I'd suggest you start with modeling the product in Tcl/TK on the NT platform, ensuring you don't reference any NT specifics. Once you're happy with the model. Copy the code to your Unix system, confirm it still runs, then compile it up into a binary executable for distribution. BTW, there's some nice GUI IDE tools available for Tcl/Tk, I'm rather fond of SpecTcl, a GUI for building graphical user interfaces, that will also produce java & html output.
Good Luck!