That's why this judgement was so fair. Yes, the money is paid out using tax money, but now parents can go and complain about those administrators. Awareness was raised. The people in charge that caused this issue are now responsible for causing that school district to pay out $100k+. At the PTA meetings, parents can get involved. This is a good judgement because it opens the eyes of parents and administrators alike.
The message is: Do not push the children around and run your schools like prisons, or you will pay.
No, the government did not take the $100k out of the budget for school supplies and more teachers. Do you think that would fly in real life? Do you think if they used this as an excuse to not hire a teacher, the parents would let that fly? Awareness has been raised for the people involed with this New Jersey school, and hopefully the parents will now collectively stand up for their children.
The problem arises when the place where people are smoking (and yes, they are causing harm to other people; the stuff is not safe to breathe and is hard to get out of clothing and other items) is a place where you cannot find an alternative where no one is smoking. Why is it impossible to wait to smoke until you are outside in a private area where no one is being bothered.
You appear to have missed everything I said. I'll try to help you again.
Where would you be stuck in a place where you cannot get away from smokers?
It is not "hurting myself" to want to not be harmed by other people.
No, it wouldn't seem so, but that's not what I said in my previous comment. Here it is again:
"The people are injuring themselves by recognizing a danger and choosing to hang out near by."
So you see, you are hurting yourself by being in some place where you will be hurt and not doing anything about it (ie. leaving).
Or do you want to abolish laws that say you can't speed on public roads? By this logic, that's what we should do because it "doesn't hurt me" to allow someone else to speed (bullshit; it puts me at a greater risk for injury if someone goes past the highest speed at which the road is safe, reaction times aren't fast enough for high speed driving, etc). Should I vote for repeal of speed limit laws, too? No, I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.
Nice analogy. This is all well and good for you to say, but again you missed a big part of what I said to you previously.
Your analogy would be correct if there were two sets of roads. One set had the normal laws of X MPH, etc. The other set had no speed limits and no police. Now, these roads are clearly labelled and give you lots of warning before you decide to merge on to either one. There are big signs saying "NO LAWS HERE," and "POLICE PATROLLED - RADAR IN USE." You get to pick which roads you would like to be on. There are on ramps and off ramps every mile or so.
See how your perception (anger) is blinding you?
I've said it before and I'll say it again: you are free to kill yourself however you like, whether quickly with a gun or slowly with cancer.
Thanks!
But you are NOT free to put others at risk when you do it.
I Agree! Though it would be hard to put people at risk when they didn't want to be.
Your "enjoying your personal lifestyle" or whatever you want to call it DOES AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE...
Yep, but the only way my smoke (and I don't smoke by the way) can "get them" is if they come over and hang out near me. ... and other people have the right to not be exposed to dangerous, smelly, and offensive crap spewing out of your mouth or the cigarette you're holding.
Yep, if I were them I probably wouldn't want to stand around it for too long! Hopefully, if that happens, I'll be aware enough to realize that I have the power to walk away.
If you want to do it, fine, but not around other people.
Well that doesn't seem fair, does it? Why do you get to do what you want, and not me (the fictitious smoker in this story)? Can we have a compromise? May I do certain things in certain places, and you in other places? Would that be more fair? Then we would live happily ever after! If I don't like what you do in your areas, I don't have to go there if I don't want to!
How can we be smart enough to protect ourselves if fucktards like you keep coming by and abusing us? The reason we need laws is because of such stupidity and failure to THINK A LITTLE ABOUT SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOURSELF.
Aww, those are mean words. Perhaps it takes abuse for you to get smart? I'm not sure I can answer that question for you. I mean, I've told you the answer already and you still don't get it.
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I never understood that. A lot of my friends do it, and they say that it makes the bong smoother, as well as regulates the dosage. For me, tobacco makes the bowls more harsh, they taste like crap, and I can just regulate by taking smaller bong hits. I smoke weed every day, and I love the taste - I wouldn't want to mess that up. Oh yeah, and I've smoked for 8 years (cigs) so its not like the tobacco is harsh because im a non-smoker.
Again, it all comes down to "thou shalt not harm others". It is more selfish to say "I know what I'm doing is harmful to you and I don't give a shit because *I* want to keep doing it and *I* feel better when I'm doing it, and the rest of you can go to hell"
IMO, it is not more selfish (or less, or anything) to have a smoke in a restaurant. You see, you have a choice whether or not to go into a restaurant that allows smoking. If a restaurant wants to allow smoking, they can (well not right now because of anti-smoking laws, but you get my drift). The establishment (bar, restaurant, concert hall, whatever) is making a rule, letting it be known, and then letting YOU make your choice.
This has nothing to do with people smoking, or not smoking. It has to do with you making a choice. You can apply this to many areas of life.
It is quite ignorant of you to go into a place that allows smoking and then complain that you don't like the smoking - regardless of your reasoning (its harming you, etc). I agree that second hand smoking harms you, and I don't like it either, but I don't bitch and moan about it when I choose to go and sit beside a smokers table.
People have a right to do whatever they want, even it they know it hurts them, and you know it hurts them.
One person "indulging" themselves can endanger dozens of other people.
If your talking about smoking, no they can't. The others could leave if it really bothered them enough. The people are injuring themselves by recognizing a danger and choosing to hang out near by. You could argue that the endangerment only becomes so by the others hanging around the smoker, instead of the endangerment being because of the smoke itself.
If people weren't so stupidly selfish and willing to inflict harm on others even though what they are doing has been proven to be harmful, we wouldn't need to enact laws to legally bitchslap them so that they stop. Sadly, we do need these laws to protect people.
No you don't need laws to protect people. You need people to be smart enough to protect themselves. Unfortunately, people don't seem to have the intelligence to do this so they need laws to "protect them." In this case, you limited the rights of one group of people (smokers), so others could enjoy themselves more. If you allowed smoking in establishments, you wouldn't be limiting any rights, you would simply be letting people make their own choices. This is called - FREEDOM. What you seem to advocate is some sort of control - control over other people to suit your lifestyle, while not considering others.
I'm a very easygoing person...
You don't seem that easy going, though I'm sure from your point of view you are. ...but I don't stand for allowing other people to hurt me. That's where I draw the line, and this is crossing it.
Then don't allow people to hurt you, it's a simple as that. I think what you really mean (even though you don't realize it) is that you don't like you hurting yourself, and because you don't have the self-control to stop hurting yourself, you need laws enacted to stop the illusion of other people hurting you.
So do we - we are an ISP that links up with 4 other ISPs, and together we have a fairly large regional network. All the tech guys hang out on an internal IRC server for easy communication. I just have a CTCP PAGE make my sound card buzz if someone needs to get my attention. It's nice for pasting configs, explaining commands, etc
I find chatrooms (like talk) to be a real waste of time -- the signal to noise ratio is very low. It takes a very long time to transfer any signifigant technical info.
Not when the channel is organized, and the members know what their doing. You could easily +m the channel, let the person paste their code, and then let the +v's talk about it. Once that problem is solved, -m and let everyone have a say. Of course, this is only required if there is a lot of noise in the channel. Next person has a problem, and hasn't been flooding the channel with garbage? Give them a +v, and +m the rest of the channel.
You need decent ops for this sort of channel to work, but we used to do it all the time back when we had scheduled lessons to teach people. After the lesson, there would be a question period where everyone could ask questions. Bots would have FAQs in them for the common questions.
Yes but it's nice that the government lets the public in on the plan, and values their input. If people don't know about nuclear waste, or waste storage systems, they could now do a little research - if they care about it. If they don't want to, that's fine. If they want to research different methods/systems and come up with creative ideas, then that's great. Also, the public can be ready to challenge ideas put forth by the government after researching and reading about the overall plan. This instead of sitting back and saying "Ok, do whatever you need to do, I don't get that stuff."
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And, no, the phone company will NOT give him DSL service today, nor install a second voice line. I wonder why?:)
So, when they ran a mile of cable, they only ran a single pair of outside wire? I'm surprised they didn't run a 25-pair cable to his property and then 2-pair into his house. You'd think they would be happy to give him a second voice line. It is double the income from the customer.. they would be crazy not to.
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That's the whole point. I don't enjoy the lack of attention - the quickly moving on once something has been "defined." I argue that things can still be fascinating, even after they've been around for a few days. You shouldn't be so quick to define things and toss them aside to feed that "more more more!" quality about yourself, you may just miss the most fascinating parts.
Besides, you didn't say "I don't find this fascinating because I have studied this many times" - or "this is old news, I've been dealing with this for a long time," you simply quoted 3 lines and said that nothing was fascinating becasuse of them.
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So, you don't think it's interesting because there have been 3 sentences written? Or because someone made laws about it?
This is what bothers me about the nature of attention in most people. If there is a name for something, or some loose definition, then people just shrug the "something" off as "this or that" without truely thinking about it, or comprehending the significance of said "thing."
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I completely agree with you.
The only reason that all of these inventions came from war-time is because the USA has a war mindset. If the government really wanted to help people in wheelchairs, it would have funded money for wheelchair research. I fit cared about its people, it would have mass-produced drugs before the war, etc, etc
I love this quote: While some of this may have been discovered sooner or later during peacefull reasearch, it wouldn't have been discovered as soon.
How do you know that?
I mean, when we're talking about the US Gov't, I believe you for sure, but if society had a mindset of improving itself instead of destroying other societies, we may have had these inventions right along the same timeline - only it would have been cheaper because you wouldn't have been blowing 90% (my estimate) of it up.
From one side of Canada to the other there is a 4.5 hour difference. (most central Canadians don't even know there are two time zones past them to the East)
No doubt, I live in Ontario and deal with the USA all the time (im a network admin). Guess where MOST of my support comes from for MOST of my equipment? California. Thats 3hrs behind me. I have gotten used to the fact that I have to wait until 11:00am before any of those guys are awake at their desks. Is it an inconvenience? Mildly, and only on occasion. If I had a major problem, I could call the "emergency" line and it would be the same as if it was at 2:30am. Would I change my whole lifestyle around to "pretend" im Pacific Time? No!
The whole idea of clock schedules is just fucked up. If there was an international database that had every timezone mapped to every location, and all major businesses had it, there wouldn't be this problem. Say your estimated shipping time is 48hours, put in your location, but in the remote location and then call the remote location and tell them the ETA. The DB can do the calculation on the difference.
Or hey, do all your business dealings in GMT. Just say its leaving at 9AM GMT (even if that means 2:00pm your time or whatever), and say the customer should have it at 5PM GMT the next day (im my case, that would be 1:00pm).
Is this even an issue? I mean, this was probably scheduled maitenance that went a little longer than expected. I have been through this before. It just sounds like Level 3 dropped some core routers for a few minutes to do a code upgrade - it didn't work so hot, so they were down for a few more mintes, OSPF/BGP decided to tell all the clients that they have no routes, Level 3 gets the routers back up, OSPF/BGP tells everyone that their fine again. Was this like 6 hours, or 45 min?
Because maybe they were upgrading their routers? And the "hitless failover" on their routers may not have worked so hot - or there was something else wrong with the code (new command syntax, so their configs didn't work when rebooted, etc, etc). Since about 98% of the equipment is routers for a Tier 1 ISP, a code upgrade gone awry could cause some crazy problems.
No no, you need the VAIO Type-S, or the more expensive VAIO GT-R to get those faster speeds. The carbon is just for looks. Stickers give the performance!
You can get a Canopy 900MHz backhaul (or 6 of them for 360 degree coverage) and beam through buildings and trees (just not certain pine trees). The 900MHz works great - I have had them work from 10 miles away laying on the ground (pointed at the ground!). They have a max range of 120mi IIRC.
We are a co-op telco/ISP... we provide 3-4mb DSL for $39.95 CDN. We are very profitible, and a portion of that profit is given back to our customers in January of every year. They basically get their January bill deleted. We are relatively small - maybe about 3500 phone customers and a whack of dialup/wireless/highspeed customers, but we don't gouge our customers for profits (there is no man at the top raking in tonnes of money). Our business model seems to work great - we just installed a MetaSwitch, so we will be doing IP phones, and next-gen phone services. We just installed ADSL2+ which will be rolling out to all our pedestals very soon. We will be able to provide 10MB+ to a farmer in an old shack on a bush lot, or to a business on a main street of a local town. Seems to be working pretty good. If all the USA independent telcos weren't bought by huge corporations, you would probably be in the same boat as us Canadians.
As of a month ago, I have 25MB to my house over ADSL2+ and an IP Phone to play with. My town has a population of a little less than 900 people. Yes, 900. Oh yes, and its surround by farms, ok? That means that there are only a couple of customers per SQ MILE.
Lemme guess.. your a dropout that was handed a gun and told that you'd get paid for fighting for your countries freedom?
Wait a sec... you believe your fighting for freedom?
And you believe your fighting for us?
It looks like your sitting on your lazy ass and posting on Slashdot. Why don't you fight the government for freedoms IN THE COUNTRY. This is where the real fight is. The Government has you ignorant assholes (and yes, you really do sound like an ignorant asshole) spread out around the world under the guise of fighting for freedom, when really, the body YOU are fighting for is taking our freedoms away. Thanks for helping!
While you patriotic (and I mean that as an insult) kids (even if your 45+, your mindset would have to be that of a child) go off and fight useless wars for your government, we sit here trying to fight for the real freedoms that are being stripped away.
Do something decent with your life and stop killing innocent people you stupid fuck.
Hey, maybe if you kill a few big families, you'll get some sort of award. Then you can feel proud as your injured ass can't go out and get a job. Then you can feed of healthcare, or make your wife work double as hard providing for you AND your family.
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That's why this judgement was so fair. Yes, the money is paid out using tax money, but now parents can go and complain about those administrators. Awareness was raised. The people in charge that caused this issue are now responsible for causing that school district to pay out $100k+. At the PTA meetings, parents can get involved. This is a good judgement because it opens the eyes of parents and administrators alike.
The message is: Do not push the children around and run your schools like prisons, or you will pay.
No, the government did not take the $100k out of the budget for school supplies and more teachers. Do you think that would fly in real life? Do you think if they used this as an excuse to not hire a teacher, the parents would let that fly? Awareness has been raised for the people involed with this New Jersey school, and hopefully the parents will now collectively stand up for their children.
The problem arises when the place where people are smoking (and yes, they are causing harm to other people; the stuff is not safe to breathe and is hard to get out of clothing and other items) is a place where you cannot find an alternative where no one is smoking. Why is it impossible to wait to smoke until you are outside in a private area where no one is being bothered.
... and other people have the right to not be exposed to dangerous, smelly, and offensive crap spewing out of your mouth or the cigarette you're holding.
You appear to have missed everything I said. I'll try to help you again.
Where would you be stuck in a place where you cannot get away from smokers?
It is not "hurting myself" to want to not be harmed by other people.
No, it wouldn't seem so, but that's not what I said in my previous comment. Here it is again:
"The people are injuring themselves by recognizing a danger and choosing to hang out near by."
So you see, you are hurting yourself by being in some place where you will be hurt and not doing anything about it (ie. leaving).
Or do you want to abolish laws that say you can't speed on public roads? By this logic, that's what we should do because it "doesn't hurt me" to allow someone else to speed (bullshit; it puts me at a greater risk for injury if someone goes past the highest speed at which the road is safe, reaction times aren't fast enough for high speed driving, etc). Should I vote for repeal of speed limit laws, too? No, I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.
Nice analogy. This is all well and good for you to say, but again you missed a big part of what I said to you previously.
Your analogy would be correct if there were two sets of roads. One set had the normal laws of X MPH, etc. The other set had no speed limits and no police. Now, these roads are clearly labelled and give you lots of warning before you decide to merge on to either one. There are big signs saying "NO LAWS HERE," and "POLICE PATROLLED - RADAR IN USE." You get to pick which roads you would like to be on. There are on ramps and off ramps every mile or so.
See how your perception (anger) is blinding you?
I've said it before and I'll say it again: you are free to kill yourself however you like, whether quickly with a gun or slowly with cancer.
Thanks!
But you are NOT free to put others at risk when you do it.
I Agree! Though it would be hard to put people at risk when they didn't want to be.
Your "enjoying your personal lifestyle" or whatever you want to call it DOES AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE...
Yep, but the only way my smoke (and I don't smoke by the way) can "get them" is if they come over and hang out near me.
Yep, if I were them I probably wouldn't want to stand around it for too long! Hopefully, if that happens, I'll be aware enough to realize that I have the power to walk away.
If you want to do it, fine, but not around other people.
Well that doesn't seem fair, does it? Why do you get to do what you want, and not me (the fictitious smoker in this story)? Can we have a compromise? May I do certain things in certain places, and you in other places? Would that be more fair? Then we would live happily ever after! If I don't like what you do in your areas, I don't have to go there if I don't want to!
How can we be smart enough to protect ourselves if fucktards like you keep coming by and abusing us? The reason we need laws is because of such stupidity and failure to THINK A LITTLE ABOUT SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOURSELF.
Aww, those are mean words. Perhaps it takes abuse for you to get smart? I'm not sure I can answer that question for you. I mean, I've told you the answer already and you still don't get it.
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I never understood that. A lot of my friends do it, and they say that it makes the bong smoother, as well as regulates the dosage. For me, tobacco makes the bowls more harsh, they taste like crap, and I can just regulate by taking smaller bong hits. I smoke weed every day, and I love the taste - I wouldn't want to mess that up. Oh yeah, and I've smoked for 8 years (cigs) so its not like the tobacco is harsh because im a non-smoker.
Again, it all comes down to "thou shalt not harm others". It is more selfish to say "I know what I'm doing is harmful to you and I don't give a shit because *I* want to keep doing it and *I* feel better when I'm doing it, and the rest of you can go to hell"
...but I don't stand for allowing other people to hurt me. That's where I draw the line, and this is crossing it.
IMO, it is not more selfish (or less, or anything) to have a smoke in a restaurant. You see, you have a choice whether or not to go into a restaurant that allows smoking. If a restaurant wants to allow smoking, they can (well not right now because of anti-smoking laws, but you get my drift). The establishment (bar, restaurant, concert hall, whatever) is making a rule, letting it be known, and then letting YOU make your choice.
This has nothing to do with people smoking, or not smoking. It has to do with you making a choice. You can apply this to many areas of life.
It is quite ignorant of you to go into a place that allows smoking and then complain that you don't like the smoking - regardless of your reasoning (its harming you, etc). I agree that second hand smoking harms you, and I don't like it either, but I don't bitch and moan about it when I choose to go and sit beside a smokers table.
People have a right to do whatever they want, even it they know it hurts them, and you know it hurts them.
One person "indulging" themselves can endanger dozens of other people.
If your talking about smoking, no they can't. The others could leave if it really bothered them enough. The people are injuring themselves by recognizing a danger and choosing to hang out near by. You could argue that the endangerment only becomes so by the others hanging around the smoker, instead of the endangerment being because of the smoke itself.
If people weren't so stupidly selfish and willing to inflict harm on others even though what they are doing has been proven to be harmful, we wouldn't need to enact laws to legally bitchslap them so that they stop. Sadly, we do need these laws to protect people.
No you don't need laws to protect people. You need people to be smart enough to protect themselves. Unfortunately, people don't seem to have the intelligence to do this so they need laws to "protect them." In this case, you limited the rights of one group of people (smokers), so others could enjoy themselves more. If you allowed smoking in establishments, you wouldn't be limiting any rights, you would simply be letting people make their own choices. This is called - FREEDOM. What you seem to advocate is some sort of control - control over other people to suit your lifestyle, while not considering others.
I'm a very easygoing person...
You don't seem that easy going, though I'm sure from your point of view you are.
Then don't allow people to hurt you, it's a simple as that. I think what you really mean (even though you don't realize it) is that you don't like you hurting yourself, and because you don't have the self-control to stop hurting yourself, you need laws enacted to stop the illusion of other people hurting you.
So do we - we are an ISP that links up with 4 other ISPs, and together we have a fairly large regional network. All the tech guys hang out on an internal IRC server for easy communication. I just have a CTCP PAGE make my sound card buzz if someone needs to get my attention. It's nice for pasting configs, explaining commands, etc
I find chatrooms (like talk) to be a real waste of time -- the signal to noise ratio is very low. It takes a very long time to transfer any signifigant technical info.
Not when the channel is organized, and the members know what their doing. You could easily +m the channel, let the person paste their code, and then let the +v's talk about it. Once that problem is solved, -m and let everyone have a say. Of course, this is only required if there is a lot of noise in the channel. Next person has a problem, and hasn't been flooding the channel with garbage? Give them a +v, and +m the rest of the channel.
You need decent ops for this sort of channel to work, but we used to do it all the time back when we had scheduled lessons to teach people. After the lesson, there would be a question period where everyone could ask questions. Bots would have FAQs in them for the common questions.
I think the judges were primarily the content submitters, were they not?
Yes but it's nice that the government lets the public in on the plan, and values their input. If people don't know about nuclear waste, or waste storage systems, they could now do a little research - if they care about it. If they don't want to, that's fine. If they want to research different methods/systems and come up with creative ideas, then that's great.
Also, the public can be ready to challenge ideas put forth by the government after researching and reading about the overall plan. This instead of sitting back and saying "Ok, do whatever you need to do, I don't get that stuff."
And, no, the phone company will NOT give him DSL service today, nor install a second voice line. I wonder why? :)
So, when they ran a mile of cable, they only ran a single pair of outside wire? I'm surprised they didn't run a 25-pair cable to his property and then 2-pair into his house. You'd think they would be happy to give him a second voice line. It is double the income from the customer.. they would be crazy not to.
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That's the whole point. I don't enjoy the lack of attention - the quickly moving on once something has been "defined." I argue that things can still be fascinating, even after they've been around for a few days. You shouldn't be so quick to define things and toss them aside to feed that "more more more!" quality about yourself, you may just miss the most fascinating parts.
Besides, you didn't say "I don't find this fascinating because I have studied this many times" - or "this is old news, I've been dealing with this for a long time," you simply quoted 3 lines and said that nothing was fascinating becasuse of them.
So, you don't think it's interesting because there have been 3 sentences written? Or because someone made laws about it?
This is what bothers me about the nature of attention in most people. If there is a name for something, or some loose definition, then people just shrug the "something" off as "this or that" without truely thinking about it, or comprehending the significance of said "thing."
I completely agree with you.
The only reason that all of these inventions came from war-time is because the USA has a war mindset. If the government really wanted to help people in wheelchairs, it would have funded money for wheelchair research. I fit cared about its people, it would have mass-produced drugs before the war, etc, etc
I love this quote:
While some of this may have been discovered sooner or later during peacefull reasearch, it wouldn't have been discovered as soon.
How do you know that?
I mean, when we're talking about the US Gov't, I believe you for sure, but if society had a mindset of improving itself instead of destroying other societies, we may have had these inventions right along the same timeline - only it would have been cheaper because you wouldn't have been blowing 90% (my estimate) of it up.
From one side of Canada to the other there is a 4.5 hour difference. (most central Canadians don't even know there are two time zones past them to the East)
How do you know?
No doubt, I live in Ontario and deal with the USA all the time (im a network admin). Guess where MOST of my support comes from for MOST of my equipment? California. Thats 3hrs behind me. I have gotten used to the fact that I have to wait until 11:00am before any of those guys are awake at their desks. Is it an inconvenience? Mildly, and only on occasion. If I had a major problem, I could call the "emergency" line and it would be the same as if it was at 2:30am. Would I change my whole lifestyle around to "pretend" im Pacific Time? No!
The whole idea of clock schedules is just fucked up. If there was an international database that had every timezone mapped to every location, and all major businesses had it, there wouldn't be this problem. Say your estimated shipping time is 48hours, put in your location, but in the remote location and then call the remote location and tell them the ETA. The DB can do the calculation on the difference.
Or hey, do all your business dealings in GMT. Just say its leaving at 9AM GMT (even if that means 2:00pm your time or whatever), and say the customer should have it at 5PM GMT the next day (im my case, that would be 1:00pm).
Buzzkill.
Is this even an issue? I mean, this was probably scheduled maitenance that went a little longer than expected. I have been through this before. It just sounds like Level 3 dropped some core routers for a few minutes to do a code upgrade - it didn't work so hot, so they were down for a few more mintes, OSPF/BGP decided to tell all the clients that they have no routes, Level 3 gets the routers back up, OSPF/BGP tells everyone that their fine again. Was this like 6 hours, or 45 min?
Because maybe they were upgrading their routers? And the "hitless failover" on their routers may not have worked so hot - or there was something else wrong with the code (new command syntax, so their configs didn't work when rebooted, etc, etc). Since about 98% of the equipment is routers for a Tier 1 ISP, a code upgrade gone awry could cause some crazy problems.
No no, you need the VAIO Type-S, or the more expensive VAIO GT-R to get those faster speeds. The carbon is just for looks. Stickers give the performance!
You can get a Canopy 900MHz backhaul (or 6 of them for 360 degree coverage) and beam through buildings and trees (just not certain pine trees). The 900MHz works great - I have had them work from 10 miles away laying on the ground (pointed at the ground!). They have a max range of 120mi IIRC.
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6. Better Weed
We are a co-op telco/ISP... we provide 3-4mb DSL for $39.95 CDN. We are very profitible, and a portion of that profit is given back to our customers in January of every year. They basically get their January bill deleted. We are relatively small - maybe about 3500 phone customers and a whack of dialup/wireless/highspeed customers, but we don't gouge our customers for profits (there is no man at the top raking in tonnes of money). Our business model seems to work great - we just installed a MetaSwitch, so we will be doing IP phones, and next-gen phone services. We just installed ADSL2+ which will be rolling out to all our pedestals very soon. We will be able to provide 10MB+ to a farmer in an old shack on a bush lot, or to a business on a main street of a local town. Seems to be working pretty good. If all the USA independent telcos weren't bought by huge corporations, you would probably be in the same boat as us Canadians.
As of a month ago, I have 25MB to my house over ADSL2+ and an IP Phone to play with. My town has a population of a little less than 900 people. Yes, 900. Oh yes, and its surround by farms, ok? That means that there are only a couple of customers per SQ MILE.
Lemme guess.. your a dropout that was handed a gun and told that you'd get paid for fighting for your countries freedom?
Wait a sec... you believe your fighting for freedom?
And you believe your fighting for us?
It looks like your sitting on your lazy ass and posting on Slashdot. Why don't you fight the government for freedoms IN THE COUNTRY. This is where the real fight is. The Government has you ignorant assholes (and yes, you really do sound like an ignorant asshole) spread out around the world under the guise of fighting for freedom, when really, the body YOU are fighting for is taking our freedoms away. Thanks for helping!
While you patriotic (and I mean that as an insult) kids (even if your 45+, your mindset would have to be that of a child) go off and fight useless wars for your government, we sit here trying to fight for the real freedoms that are being stripped away.
Do something decent with your life and stop killing innocent people you stupid fuck.
Hey, maybe if you kill a few big families, you'll get some sort of award. Then you can feel proud as your injured ass can't go out and get a job. Then you can feed of healthcare, or make your wife work double as hard providing for you AND your family.
See, I can be an asshole too!
No, its because the microwaves keep us warm!