That's a good point about the number of DIMMs. I don't know if it translates to double though. From barefeats:
DUAL CHANNEL vs QUAD CHANNEL
In order to get the full benefit of the Mac Pro's 256 bit memory data path, you'll want to populate both memory riser cards, each with at least one matched pair. If you put your memory on only one riser, you are dropping from quad channel to dual channel mode. See Apple's Mac Pro memory notes for more this.
Does this translate into faster real world speed? Not always. Though the Xbench memory fill rate test showed a 34% gain, it doesn't necessarily translate to faster application speeds. We ran some typical tests from our suite of real world tests (iMovie render effect, Final Cut Pro render clip, Cinebench CPU render, Motion render RAM preview, iMaginator Core Image morph). None of them showed any gains from Quad Channel mode.
Note, I don't have a Mac Pro to 'test' all this myself. But I believe Barefeats, since they've been providing accessible Mac hardware tests ala the PC tweaker sites.
A while ago, I decided to play through the series. Since I was a late-bloomer, FF7 was my first RPG ever. I'm up to FF4 (I picked the GBA version) now and my question is, what is up with Edward?
Bard: Fine. His ability to hide when HP is low: what?
Is this character development to show how lame he is? Or is this accidental? Can anyone comment without spoiling anything?
Quicksilver has a subversion plugin. You could commit your project with a tilde, a few english letters and a few arrow keys. I'm still reading tips online, it seems the uses go on and on.
.net is the overall term for a suite of tools right? Wouldn't they be best to consider just the C# bits with Mono? Isn't the rest of the.net bits too much in Windows land?
This has been an interesting thread. I just picked up my first obj-c book and I'm 1/3 through it. It's not easy for me because I was never good at C type development, Java came much easier to me. However, I'm still trudging through it because obj-c seems like the language to learn if I want to leverage OSX.
For example, with just a small amount of sample code I was able to render a font in an OpenGL texture. It was super easy to instantiate. From what I understand, the same method is also capable of rendering almost anything as a texture through CoreImage. The sample app came out looking fantastic, similar to good OpenGL font projects like OGLFT. At the same time, I know people who have written their own font libraries in 100% ANSI C and used that in their Xcode projects for portability reasons.
Take my casual observations as simply a story of someone who is still learning.
Matthew 2: 1-2: "Where is the one who has been born King of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him."
And Jesus probably spoke up (but who knows). At this same time, Jesus probably was exposed to the grandness of religion via the brand-new, shiney, golden-door temple in Bethlehem. Did God zap him with religious information? No, he studied it so you might infer that he found some interest in it.
So this is where faith falls in (and probably many times before). Jesus could have stepped up as the King of Kings because of his interest in religion after visiting Bethlehem. I'm probably bias in believing or stating this.
Fine. Disagree. I guess the bible has been under works for a long time. The last part of the Old Testament was written around 500 AD, I'm sticking to that number for a short answer. Via Wikipedia:
"According to historians, the Old Testament was composed between the 5th century BC and the 2nd century BC, though parts of it, such as the Torah, and Song of Deborah (Judges 5), date back much earlier."
Good lord, start a flamewar. My point is, no recorded history and a massive on-going writing by man on something that could have easily been gossip. Since videotape, not much parting of the red sea. Where is the burden of proof? On Christians. Do I win? No. It's faith. I could be wrong. My bullet list is why I don't believe.
Personally, I think Americans are Christian because Americans are Christian. Not because there is a god. And I don't see any argument against that. Convert to some other world religion and be a freak? The Christian right couldn't do it. Couldn't stand out and try to explore a real universal god and not an American god.
Just from casual discussions with my Christian friend, the last of the old testament was written around 450AD. I guess I didn't consider the New Testament but my high-level reasons were bulleted for speed. One could discuss this forever.
I agree. Worthy of being saved is pretty arrogant, imho. Things that keep me from believing:
- People so believed in Zeus and Jupiter, etc. - 3000 religions (on yahoo directory), someone is wrong. - Most in the USA are Christian and yet it's some universal truth. - Man wrote the bible around 500AD. - Where's Jesus as a teenager?
But I can totally see the other side. I can see how people need religion, how it adds meaning and how this post can be seen as the work of Satan. I'm just not wired to ignore the provable and lean on something else.
This is coming from that wikipedia entry up there:
"Microsoft Live Labs Relay Service - allows you to expose a Windows Communication Foundation based service to the Internet from behind a firewall or NAT."
What? Ok, so I adopt this library if I'm using the WCF framework to expose a port through a firewall or NAT. I guess it's an understandable MS library like JXTA. But that parent list is really crazy, I don't know how I'm going to make sense out of all of this. I guess it will just take time. It seems I have to relate their stack to stuff that I already use or have seen:
Windows Live Academic - ok this is Google Scholar Windows Live Calendar - Google Calendar Windows Live Custom Domains - this is free and easy web / subdomain hosting? Windows Live Desktop Search - Google desktop search? Windows Live Drive - This is like the.Mac drive or the GDrive from Google Windows Live Favorites - This is like http://del.icio.us/, with an integrated IE toolbar, what you could do with Firefox. Windows Live ID - New Microsoft Passport Windows Live Local - New MSN Virtual Earth Windows Live Mail - New Hotmail Windows Live Messenger - New MSN Messenger Windows Live Mobile - New MSN Mobile Windows Live Products - Is like Froogle Windows Live QnA - Is like Google Answers Windows Live Search - New MSN Search Windows Live Spaces - New MSN spaces Windows Live Toolbar - New MSN Toolbar
I left out a bunch. I hope it's all great. I hope all these services come out and they are useful. I'm going to keep my PC until Mac starts gaming, so Vista and Live might as well be awesome. However, I think the point of agility within MS is driven home here when you see that all of things are only new to you if you only use Microsoft products (blinders on).
WoW is just comfortable now. When it came out, I thought, "how am I going to google for wow? it's already a word!" The Wii was equally strange. Gameboy. Gamecube. Xbox. Xbox360 -- I thought, so it spins? "We're going to turn this gaming market around 360 degrees! Wait."
Well they addressed it, just not with much evidence. "It's a rumor", so sayeth us.
As much as all this bad news about the PS3 is floating around (rumors, questions, bad local memory performance, high price), it actually could speak a lot to the size of the iteration. A real jump to next-gen should be difficult with news sites covering rumors, fake demos and no real product finalized because they are doing so much work. That's a bit of a waffle (#) because you could do something easy and not deliver it...
However, I believe getting 7 cores to sing on Linux is pretty hard. I can't argue against what MS has done with the 360, but I don't think the 360 ever had the cell design where you could assign different cells different functionality per game. This might be all hype... time will tell.
Do you think (in your humble opinion) that everyone is going to GLSL (orange book that I haven't bought because the red book killed me)?
I would agree with you on the PC hardware bit (although I'm sure others would reference their own experiences). The full stack of OS and hardware is a big strength, although one could argue that Sun isn't strong on Sparc anymore and Apple still doesn't perform well... both are complicated topics probably not related to the tech but rather commodity parts and OS stability / vendor drivers.
I'd argue against the direct access thing. Apple stays behind on OpenGL versions on purpose for stability and because the OS relies on it for many things versus Windows (maybe vista will have the same hesitation). Maybe versions of OpenGL have nothing to do with speed.. but what does that say about their devotion to gaming? How long has OpenGL 2.0 been out? September 7, 2004?
Apple doesn't get the vendor driver love either. There's a million versions of forceware but Nvidia could care less about what it gives back to Apple (from what I understand of it -- I think you'd have to interview an insider to find out):
Apple: "Hey, we want the Nvidia 8000 in our Mac." Nvidia: "Ok, here's an updated driver that we spent 10 man hours on. Vista is coming out ya know." Apple: "Ok, we'll fix what we can." [release]
Alright, maybe not. But instead of flaming me, consider this an invite for anyone with superior knowledge of what contributes to OSX's gaming performance. I would argue these things:
- Double Buffering fullscreen apps by default (run WoW again in Window mode) - Driver optimization by vendors for a platform with little market share - Hesitation to stay on the bleeding edge because the OS relies heavily on OpenGL
Slashdot Mirror
And most of this "warfare" legislation is happening within the borders of the US. This isn't wiretapping in Iraq.
Note, I don't have a Mac Pro to 'test' all this myself. But I believe Barefeats, since they've been providing accessible Mac hardware tests ala the PC tweaker sites.
Yeah, major laughter here at the onion. Especially the "mew mew mew" line. A very "wtf" while laughing moment.
I needed that laugh.
Important safety tip. Thanks AC.
Which APIs are they changing? I'm not debating, I just want to know.
When I surfed to slashdot, I thought "let's see what's going on in the world" not "let's read another comment system where people insult each other".
But there's problems with that. Because my IE shortcut as a normal user doesn't use Run->Run As.
Count adjourned, I'm going to have to review this Exhibit A: PR girl grabbing crotch in my private legal media review booth...
A while ago, I decided to play through the series. Since I was a late-bloomer, FF7 was my first RPG ever. I'm up to FF4 (I picked the GBA version) now and my question is, what is up with Edward?
Bard: Fine.
His ability to hide when HP is low: what?
Is this character development to show how lame he is? Or is this accidental? Can anyone comment without spoiling anything?
Quicksilver has a subversion plugin. You could commit your project with a tilde, a few english letters and a few arrow keys. I'm still reading tips online, it seems the uses go on and on.
.net is the overall term for a suite of tools right? Wouldn't they be best to consider just the C# bits with Mono? Isn't the rest of the .net bits too much in Windows land?
This has been an interesting thread. I just picked up my first obj-c book and I'm 1/3 through it. It's not easy for me because I was never good at C type development, Java came much easier to me. However, I'm still trudging through it because obj-c seems like the language to learn if I want to leverage OSX.
For example, with just a small amount of sample code I was able to render a font in an OpenGL texture. It was super easy to instantiate. From what I understand, the same method is also capable of rendering almost anything as a texture through CoreImage. The sample app came out looking fantastic, similar to good OpenGL font projects like OGLFT. At the same time, I know people who have written their own font libraries in 100% ANSI C and used that in their Xcode projects for portability reasons.
Take my casual observations as simply a story of someone who is still learning.
Ack, I meant 500BC. And ... this was really the least of my points. It was so long ago and full of prophecy. All that was predicted is that a King would be born (via Astrology), a super king. Jupiter (the King of Planets) and Saturn lined up in Pisces to signal a Super King would be born, or ultimate Messiah. The astrologers (the wise mise, most likely according to an interview in a Discovery Channel bit) didn't associate Jesus with this star. They said "A messiah was born" and Jesus happened to be born at that same time. It's not like the wise men could search some database to see who was born around then. Jesus went to Jerusalem. Wise men appeared and asked:
Matthew 2: 1-2: "Where is the one who has been born King of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him."
And Jesus probably spoke up (but who knows). At this same time, Jesus probably was exposed to the grandness of religion via the brand-new, shiney, golden-door temple in Bethlehem. Did God zap him with religious information? No, he studied it so you might infer that he found some interest in it.
So this is where faith falls in (and probably many times before). Jesus could have stepped up as the King of Kings because of his interest in religion after visiting Bethlehem. I'm probably bias in believing or stating this.
Fine. Disagree. I guess the bible has been under works for a long time. The last part of the Old Testament was written around 500 AD, I'm sticking to that number for a short answer. Via Wikipedia:
"According to historians, the Old Testament was composed between the 5th century BC and the 2nd century BC, though parts of it, such as the Torah, and Song of Deborah (Judges 5), date back much earlier."
Good lord, start a flamewar. My point is, no recorded history and a massive on-going writing by man on something that could have easily been gossip. Since videotape, not much parting of the red sea. Where is the burden of proof? On Christians. Do I win? No. It's faith. I could be wrong. My bullet list is why I don't believe.
Personally, I think Americans are Christian because Americans are Christian. Not because there is a god. And I don't see any argument against that. Convert to some other world religion and be a freak? The Christian right couldn't do it. Couldn't stand out and try to explore a real universal god and not an American god.
Just from casual discussions with my Christian friend, the last of the old testament was written around 450AD. I guess I didn't consider the New Testament but my high-level reasons were bulleted for speed. One could discuss this forever.
I agree. Worthy of being saved is pretty arrogant, imho. Things that keep me from believing:
- People so believed in Zeus and Jupiter, etc.
- 3000 religions (on yahoo directory), someone is wrong.
- Most in the USA are Christian and yet it's some universal truth.
- Man wrote the bible around 500AD.
- Where's Jesus as a teenager?
But I can totally see the other side. I can see how people need religion, how it adds meaning and how this post can be seen as the work of Satan. I'm just not wired to ignore the provable and lean on something else.
Exactly, she simply asked the police to produce authorization. It wasn't "you'll never get it", it was "sorry, try again".
...ponies!
This is coming from that wikipedia entry up there:
.Mac drive or the GDrive from Google
"Microsoft Live Labs Relay Service - allows you to expose a Windows Communication Foundation based service to the Internet from behind a firewall or NAT."
What? Ok, so I adopt this library if I'm using the WCF framework to expose a port through a firewall or NAT. I guess it's an understandable MS library like JXTA. But that parent list is really crazy, I don't know how I'm going to make sense out of all of this. I guess it will just take time. It seems I have to relate their stack to stuff that I already use or have seen:
Windows Live Academic - ok this is Google Scholar
Windows Live Calendar - Google Calendar
Windows Live Custom Domains - this is free and easy web / subdomain hosting?
Windows Live Desktop Search - Google desktop search?
Windows Live Drive - This is like the
Windows Live Favorites - This is like http://del.icio.us/, with an integrated IE toolbar, what you could do with Firefox.
Windows Live ID - New Microsoft Passport
Windows Live Local - New MSN Virtual Earth
Windows Live Mail - New Hotmail
Windows Live Messenger - New MSN Messenger
Windows Live Mobile - New MSN Mobile
Windows Live Products - Is like Froogle
Windows Live QnA - Is like Google Answers
Windows Live Search - New MSN Search
Windows Live Spaces - New MSN spaces
Windows Live Toolbar - New MSN Toolbar
I left out a bunch. I hope it's all great. I hope all these services come out and they are useful. I'm going to keep my PC until Mac starts gaming, so Vista and Live might as well be awesome. However, I think the point of agility within MS is driven home here when you see that all of things are only new to you if you only use Microsoft products (blinders on).
WoW is just comfortable now. When it came out, I thought, "how am I going to google for wow? it's already a word!" The Wii was equally strange. Gameboy. Gamecube. Xbox. Xbox360 -- I thought, so it spins? "We're going to turn this gaming market around 360 degrees! Wait."
I was thinking more of pigs in space.
[Capitalized B&W Title Screen appears]
[big booming voice]
Fashion!
In!
Spaaaaace!
As long as I can resist your feral charge.
Well they addressed it, just not with much evidence. "It's a rumor", so sayeth us.
As much as all this bad news about the PS3 is floating around (rumors, questions, bad local memory performance, high price), it actually could speak a lot to the size of the iteration. A real jump to next-gen should be difficult with news sites covering rumors, fake demos and no real product finalized because they are doing so much work. That's a bit of a waffle (#) because you could do something easy and not deliver it...
However, I believe getting 7 cores to sing on Linux is pretty hard. I can't argue against what MS has done with the 360, but I don't think the 360 ever had the cell design where you could assign different cells different functionality per game. This might be all hype... time will tell.
Do you think (in your humble opinion) that everyone is going to GLSL (orange book that I haven't bought because the red book killed me)?
... both are complicated topics probably not related to the tech but rather commodity parts and OS stability / vendor drivers.
I would agree with you on the PC hardware bit (although I'm sure others would reference their own experiences). The full stack of OS and hardware is a big strength, although one could argue that Sun isn't strong on Sparc anymore and Apple still doesn't perform well
I'd argue against the direct access thing. Apple stays behind on OpenGL versions on purpose for stability and because the OS relies on it for many things versus Windows (maybe vista will have the same hesitation). Maybe versions of OpenGL have nothing to do with speed .. but what does that say about their devotion to gaming? How long has OpenGL 2.0 been out? September 7, 2004?
Apple doesn't get the vendor driver love either. There's a million versions of forceware but Nvidia could care less about what it gives back to Apple (from what I understand of it -- I think you'd have to interview an insider to find out):
Apple: "Hey, we want the Nvidia 8000 in our Mac."
Nvidia: "Ok, here's an updated driver that we spent 10 man hours on. Vista is coming out ya know."
Apple: "Ok, we'll fix what we can."
[release]
Alright, maybe not. But instead of flaming me, consider this an invite for anyone with superior knowledge of what contributes to OSX's gaming performance. I would argue these things:
- Double Buffering fullscreen apps by default (run WoW again in Window mode)
- Driver optimization by vendors for a platform with little market share
- Hesitation to stay on the bleeding edge because the OS relies heavily on OpenGL