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E3 2007 A More 'Targeted' Event

simoniker writes "Following some rampant media speculation over the weekend, the ESA trade organization has released an official statement on the future of the E3 game trade show, revealing that it is not cancelled outright, but is rather 'evolving into a more intimate event focused on targeted, personalized meetings and activities.' E3 2007 will still take place in Los Angeles next year, according to the ESA's Doug Lowenstein, but 'will not feature the large trade show environment of previous years.'" Which is to say, it's not really E3 anymore.

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  1. Girls by Ramble · · Score: 0

    I believe the question on everyones mind is not will E3 be gone, but will the pretty girls be gone?

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    1. Re:Girls by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      This was covered previously, they'll have just as many pretty girls, but they'll be wearing a lot more clothing, which will eliminate the majority of the allure. (While there are some smart girls among them, most of them are dumb as posts, and if they're not at least half-naked, that eliminates basically the entire reason to have them around.)

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    2. Re:Girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Would it matter? We are all too nerdish for them anyway. Just go to your local strip-bar instead. You'll get more attention and be able to do it for less dollar bills than it cost to get into E3 :)

    3. Re:Girls by hcob$ · · Score: 1
      I believe the question on everyones mind is not will E3 be gone, but will the pretty girls be gone?
      Of course not! They will just be strippers and callgirls now.
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  2. E3 is dead, long live E3 by Incoherent07 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hopefully this "intimate" event will improve the signal-to-noise ratio, which has been pretty atrocious recently. It may also spur more companies to run their own events just for their legions of fans... you know, like BlizzCon.

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    1. Re:E3 is dead, long live E3 by p0tat03 · · Score: 1

      Or ride off existing game-oriented events like PAX. I rather like this idea actually, push the games towards the gamers directly, right on their door step.

    2. Re:E3 is dead, long live E3 by Rifter13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I like the idea of PAX taking over, as well. If you have ever been there, you will know the sheer riot of light and noise that is there. It is fun, and very exhausting. Let PAX be the crazy side. Let this show be more like the Game Developer's Conference, with a lot less hoopla, and just get the information out. There are always a lot of people that get into E3, that don't belong there.

    3. Re:E3 is dead, long live E3 by OpenSourceOfAllEvil · · Score: 1

      3 Reasons

      The "noise" which is the main thing that killed this event was the thousands of fan-boys that didn't belong there. This wasn't supposed to be the "Who Loves Videogames, Come On Down!" event that it became, it was always meant to be private, industry only. When such a huge percentage are not the media, buyers, or developers, basically anyone who can help your business other than buying your stuff retail then you end up having to cast a fairly large net to get the people you want. Your playing to a different and larger audience and have to take different tactics to get attention because the media will always follow the crowd.

      E3 really started because video games started becoming too big for CES. CES doesn't seem to be going out of business, yet it uses the exact same business model. Trade shows are always zoos. But dealing with the zoo when you have so little return for it doesn't make sense. And E3 staff was mainly temp and all clueless of the business they were in.

      The L.A. Convention Center was too small for it from the very beginning. Dealing with downtown L.A. traffic and parking, and zero options for alternatives from crappy overpriced convention food and a horrendous line just to eat your turkey sandwich sitting on the floor is going to make some very irritable unhappy campers. This doesn't make for a receptive audience.

    4. Re:E3 is dead, long live E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blizzcon was an.. interesting starting convention, if anything because it was dedicated to the legions of Blizzardites and kin. However, to say that it was a great or even good convention is somewhat of a lacking statement, as most of the weekend was sorely devoid of content and variety. Aside from the few tournaments they were running, Day 2 was almost exactly the same as Day 1, from panel discussions to released info to who was there to what was going on. It was a long time and a good chunk of change to experience deja vu in Anaheim. Actually to be honest, I can't think of anything that was different between the two days, aside from the Starcraft and Warcraft tournaments.

      I do applaud Blizzard for trying to hold their own convention, it was a decent first attempt. I do think, though, that it also reflects the lack of content that a single developer might be able to bring to the table, at least on a level of holding a convention. But, if that's the case, why would a single dev hold a convention at all if it's going to be so lacking in actual content? I think that E3 as a smaller collaboration of developers would succeed far more than the noise>signal con that's going on now as well as single devs holding their own tiny cons for their fanbase.

      Just my 2¥

    5. Re:E3 is dead, long live E3 by jpsherman · · Score: 1

      http://www.marketertoday.com/archives/2006/08/e3_t he_electron.html From a marketing and competitive perspective, I think this will invigorate the focus on gaming, and not the focus on the spectacle. Although, I never got to see the spectacle, and I wish I could... I think that in the long run it will be better for the industry and gamers.

  3. Hang on... by Rachel+Lucid · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You mean the point WASN'T to be a media orgy?

  4. What is E3? by Doches · · Score: 3, Informative

    What is E3? Is it just a convention, a convenient vehicle for putting developers in the same room as producers and distributors? Or is it...a spectacle, a chance to throw out some massive hype and drum up interest in upcoming games?

    Please, that's not even a question. E3 may have started out as a business-oriented conference, but the name "E3" is now completely associated with booth babes, demos, drool, web comics, vaporware, and Sony press releases of Epic proportions (Forgive the pun...). E3 is dead, this announcement notwithstanding. It's also a clear example of the Theseus paradox, but that's not really relevant.

    Goodbye, ridiculously endearing media event. Hello...business thing.

    1. Re:What is E3? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

      When I was working at Infogrames (now Atari), it meant seeing a highlight video tape of your supervisors totally plastered, a PR girl grabbing her crotch during a song, and a vice president dancing in fishnet pantyhose at a company E3 party. That's why I prefer going to the more quieter Game Developers Conference instead. :)

    2. Re:What is E3? by ObligatoryUserName · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. The people who are upset that E3 is being changed are the people who made it untenable in the first place. E3 was intended to be an important business event, not the GenCon for video games that it has become.

      The necessity of being a media circus has thrown the cost-benefit equation of E3 way off track. As a business event it was becoming less and less valuable because of the increasingly non-industry attendance, as a media event it was becoming less and less valuable because of the proliferation of other media channels (thanks Internet!), and it was continually getting more expensive. This change is good.

    3. Re:What is E3? by Jugalator · · Score: 1
      What is E3? Is it just a convention, a convenient vehicle for putting developers in the same room as producers and distributors? Or is it...a spectacle, a chance to throw out some massive hype and drum up interest in upcoming games?

      From what I've seen -- yes, the latter, and what's confusing, given this decision -- the game companies seemed to love it for that. I'm not sure the ESA is fully in touch with either their most important gaming fans or most of the game companies themselves.
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    4. Re:What is E3? by Rimbo · · Score: 1

      This year, I had the opportunity to attend E3 to help my business grow. I had to decide whether or not the trip would be worthwhile. When I looked at the stated reason for E3's existence, it looked like the precise event I needed to attend; when I asked people about it and recalled my experiences there in years past, I knew that there would be no chance to actually make the business contacts I needed to make.

      I'm happy to see this kind of change.

    5. Re:What is E3? by oc255 · · Score: 1

      Count adjourned, I'm going to have to review this Exhibit A: PR girl grabbing crotch in my private legal media review booth...

  5. Translation? by N8F8 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    "targeted, personalized meetings and activities" Strippers and lap-dances to get the buyers in the right "mood"?

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    1. Re:Translation? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1
      "targeted, personalized meetings and activities" Strippers and lap-dances to get the buyers in the right "mood"?
      Clearly you misunderstand the meaning of the word 'targeted.' What they mean to say is that they'll be playing a FPS on closed 8-person LANs, hence the 'targeted'. Oh, and they'll be using first names, hence the 'personalized'. And, of course, they'll be saying 'hi' to eachother and there will be massive quantities of hand-shaking (the 'meetings').

      As for strippers and lap-dances, I think you're thinking of the varnish-removal industry convention and hoe-down hosted each year by the reindeer-raising Scandinavians. But I could be mistaken.
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  6. No longer a commercial. by clragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of the reasons Will Wright released the first gameplay video of Spore at the Game Developer Conference 2006, instead of E3, was because he felt E3 was more like a commercial used by game producers to hype the games before it comes out, not a place for developers to exchange ideas and make better games.

    1. Re:No longer a commercial. by Babbster · · Score: 1

      Wow, really? A "Game Developers Conference" is a better place for developers to exchange ideas and make better games? I'm shocked! Shocked!!! Well, not that shocked.

    2. Re:No longer a commercial. by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I was never under any impression that E3 was anything other than an ad. I wasn't aware that anyone had expectations otherwise.

  7. Duke Nukem Forever in 2007! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... a more intimate event focused on targeted, personalized meetings and activities.

    So the booth babes are being replaced by hookers?

  8. What do you want to bet... by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 3, Informative

    All they're gonna do is make it a "closed door" meeting by charging $3k for a press pass. The entry fee will keep most of the autograph-seeking kiddies away while allowing all the media coverage of the old show and making a tidy profit to boot.

    E3 has not always been open to the public, either. Only in the past couple years have they started selling general admission tickets, though it was never hard to get a press pass if you had even a moderately popular web site.

    I bet the ESA looked at the industry and realized that because of consolidation and an off-year for consoles there are only a few big players left who can afford to support E3, and they're already throwing their own events.

    1. Re:What do you want to bet... by basscomm · · Score: 1
      "E3 has not always been open to the public, either. Only in the past couple years have they started selling general admission tickets, though it was never hard to get a press pass if you had even a moderately popular web site."


      Er... E3 has never been open to the public.
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    2. Re:What do you want to bet... by Doytch · · Score: 2, Informative

      How is parent modded Informative?

      It used to be easy to get into E3, but recently, it has become harder and harder to get in if you weren't part of the industry or press. The only time tickets were up for sale was an eBay auction for a pair of press passes, but that was taken down quickly. Parent seriously has his info mixed up.

    3. Re:What do you want to bet... by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      It's a bit sad though, because the game companies on E3 I've heard coverage from have been of varying sizes, and all happy to have all sorts of people come visit their booth. The point was to meet fans to spread a good word and hype for them after coming home, and get some press coverage too. Press coverage being only half of the PR value. E3 was also already quite "intimate" with plenty of chances for first hand chat with game company employees if you could at all visit.

      If they want to make a greater profit from it, the obvious answer to me would be to just raise the entrance fees and let the problem solve itself, without decisions of a changed purpose and more restrictions in the show itself. I doubt much of the game industry agree with this decision. It seems this is yet another transition of E3 started last year with the stricter "booth babe" guidelines, and maybe it'll be even more tightened down after these news. Who knows where the people in charge want to go with this, but I'd believe it's neither according to the game companies' or fans' wishes, most evidently because no game company has expressed a concern or a wish for change about this -- instead they've hyped the show on their respective websites, and on fansites for their webmasters to get exclusive coverage, etc.

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    4. Re:What do you want to bet... by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Informative

      Our webmaster isn't really a member of an active gaming press site, just a fansite, and he got in. I wouldn't say it's too hard given the right contacts. But yes, grandparent may be wrong in that there are autograph-seeking boys running around there or something. But it sure isn't *that* limited, and I know another guy who let people in our community have tickets if anyone wanted to come, just out of kindness.

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    5. Re:What do you want to bet... by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 1

      Right, E3 was a great venue for many of the smaller sites out there, exactly because it did provide the kind of intimate, one on one interview opportunities that fansites almost never get. I have a feeling that in the purge to remove the non-media fans, a lot of smaller fan sites will get shut out as well.

      I think the effects of cancelling E3 (and that's what this is; E3 as the game-buying-public knows it has been cancelled) will be profoundly damaging from a symbolic standpoint. There are already signs of a market slowdown (sluggish X360 sales, hesitation over the price point on PS3, the overall low number of games for any platform not called 'Wii') and this could push public perception into the "is this industry dying?" realm. If the American economy goes into recession in the next 5 years we could easily see the console gaming market crash again like in the early 80s.

      E3 was largely symbolic of the entire console gaming movement. Taking this event away is not a small move, nor is it good for the industry. I know EA, Sony and Microsoft were the ones pushing this move (probably because they each already run their own events,) but in the end it's only going to hurt them and the industry as a whole.

  9. spaceworld by minus_273 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I guess this means spaceworld will be coming back...

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  10. First Comdex, now E3 by poopie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sad to see the end of an era, but the internet and RSS effectively take nearly all of the mystery, excitement, and suspense out of traveling to a computer trade show.

    The only suspense left is related to unsubstantiated rumors, blurry prototype photos on blogger sites, and actualy press releases by companies.

    I remember years ago how exciting the West Coast Computer Fair was -- small vendors trying to show off something special that you would otherwise never see or know about, then I remember Comdex - people coming from all over the world to unveil new products.

    Nobody waits for a trade show now to unveil anything - everyone wants a jump on their competition, and consumers don't want to wait for information that they could be reading about in their RSS feed readers every day.

    As a result, people feel less and less inclined to go to trade shows when they already know all there is to know about the PS3, the Wii, the Xbox 360's giant external power transformer, the new games, etc.

    I remember the excitement of collecting vendor trinkets and carrying HUGE bags of product literature around for days on end. Who's going to do that now? I mean... maybe jot down a few urls in your PDA, but... traveling to collect BAGS of literature? That's so last century.

    1. Re:First Comdex, now E3 by Serapth · · Score: 1

      ... in your PDA? That's so 2005.

      You mean photographed and OCRed in your smartphone... right?

    2. Re:First Comdex, now E3 by Moofie · · Score: 1

      "I remember the excitement of collecting vendor trinkets and carrying HUGE bags of product literature around for days on end"

      Oooh, yeah. I can taste the excitement.

      Don't get out much, do ya?

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  11. Not to be a gammer nazi.. by Brothernone · · Score: 1

    but did the ESA's annoucement about the E3EXPO drive anyone else nuts!? that out of the way, I think it might not be so bad. I think the last E3 was alot more hype and smokescreen than actuall presentation.. but I only caught some media coverage I havn't been myself. Hopefully this lead to more and better quality presentations from the big names. At the very least it might help aleviate some of the used car lot feel of everyone trying to grab your attention to hype this or that.

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    1. Re:Not to be a gammer nazi.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GAMMER!?!?!?! Retire your crooked grammar book!

  12. You gotta have Faith by Mignon · · Score: 1
    evolving into a more intimate event focused on targeted, personalized meetings and activities.

    Ian Faith might have said their appeal is becoming more selective.

  13. Bleh, E3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The outright death of E3 would probably be the best thing to happen to game development teams. E3 costs us tons of time each year -- the event itself takes up a lot of our time, but so does preparing for it and recovering from it. E3 dictates ship schedules and major milestones and sometimes even the ultimate fate of entire projects or even studios. The whole show is all about the hype and not about the substance.

    Of course the perspective of a marketing persion will be the opposite of that of a developer. But I think that marketing departments are half the problem with the industry -- the drive has become one to create guaranteed sellers using big IP licenses and tired old game formats rather than to create excellent products that sell on their own merits.

  14. Yeah, whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe it "won't be E3 anymore" to the kind of people who work at and write for Wired Magazine, but for the rest of us-- you know, those of us who aren't bigshot bloggers at Wired or Slashdot, and therefore don't get press passes to E3 and don't have time to travel to LA to visit it-- there is not going to be any difference. What does it matter that the lights and the glamour and the stuff of the E3 showfloor will be gone? We never got to see that, because they weren't there.

    I for one never cared about Nintendo or Microsoft's fancy booth decorations; I just wanted to see the Super Mario Galaxy or Halo 3 videos. As long as next year at E3 time, the media still sends people out to E3 who take pictures of everything happening there and come back and show it to me, I don't care whether thousands of EBGames employees got to go in and see it as well. Maybe if I were an EBGames employee I'd care, but most people aren't. From the perspective of "the rest of us", the only difference is that now the E3 news coverage will not be accompanied by pictures of booth babes. Except those have nothing to do with games and were toned down last year anyway. Wooha.

    So they're killing a media spectacle and creating a media event. This makes no difference except to the people who are in the media and the spectacle was being done for the benefit of. Except that the video game industry, as they have just realized, has no need to hold a spectacle for media members. After all, all along at E3, the video game publishers weren't spending all that money to get information about upcoming games to Chris Kohler, writer for Wired Blogs, they were spending all that money to get information to me. I am Consumer. Hear me roar. Now stop whining and give me my Super Mario Galaxy screenshots or whatever.

  15. E3Expo by Samir+Gupta · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did the Department of Redundancy Department make up that name?

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    1. Re:E3Expo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although that is redundant when used in a "geek" setting, there are a lot of people who have no idea what E3 is. My mother used to be a gamer and I'm sure if I mentioned E3 around her, she would classify it as "more Sonic gibberish" and ignore it, unless I tacked expo on the end. (She also pays attention when I say anything that ends in -con or -kon, so she can tell me, "No, I don't want to go with you.").

      People who haven't played a game since 1985, if at all, are very unlikely to know what E3 stands for. Tossing Expo on there as an afterthought at least establishes the kind of event it is, even though it says nothing about its topic.

      Sometimes, redundancy is completely necessary. Just not on Slashdot.

    2. Re:E3Expo by blazer1024 · · Score: 1

      If that's your concern, why not just call it "Electronic Entertainment Expo" when talking to your mom?

  16. Oh where will all the vendors go? by dotHectate · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the past few years hasn't been a strong indicator, the Penny-Arcade Expo is now officially the only real place to be. Well, count me in!

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  17. In response to the publisher complaints... by nick_davison · · Score: 2, Insightful

    [Paraphrasing] EA complained that, "The cost of putting a pig in a nice enough dress that people forget it is a pig has been increasing year on year to the point where we just don't see we're getting a reasonable return on our investment."

    Strangely, the companies with good games to actually show off, despite having a very small floor presence and minimal budgets somehow get plenty of press attention.

    Crysis wasn't that big a booth (nor was Far Cry several years back). Dead Rising consisted of maybe four consoles and no one to talk it up. Half Life 2 was a single small room. Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, a couple of years back, was a few GameCubes, some weird controllers and one girl trying to explain it to confused people. Guitar Hero was a relatively small setup too. Every one of those titles gained huge coverage because, shockingly, they relied on simply being good.

    EA has about a third of the gaming market sewn up and is very profitable because it has realized the same thing the movie industry has: Make 20% profits on lots of safe investments and you'll be far better off than someone who makes 1000% on one title and has ten others fail. It's a great business model but ultimately means you put out a boring product that no amount of dressing it up is going really excite journalists who're looking for something sensational.

    As such, yeah, no amount of spending will get a good return at E3 compared to the small companies that have their one really exciting release. The little companies will never need a big booth and the creme-de-la-creme of LA's strippers to get people's interest. For EA, it makes absolute sense to move to a private demo where you fly journalists in, competing against no one else, and then let the small guys starve in a world with no centralized tradeshow that journalists will be at and they're too small to pay to fly them in for one-on-ones.

    For the EA business model of large quantities of predictable over taking risks, E3 was at best a waste of money and at worst a way to help the competition.

    Not knocking EA per se. Other large publishers have reached similar conclusions just as the movie industry, music industry and even the book publishing industry have. I just picked EA because they're so much larger than anyone else (largely because of having been smart enough, even if we hate the reality of it, to realize this before most others).

    The sad truth is, E3 was great for gamers as it rewarded small companies with great games vastly more than giants with solid but repetetive ones. As the giants have the money, its death was kind of inevitable.

    1. Re:In response to the publisher complaints... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But won't this "new E3" still be able to get the smaller-budget-but-good-game some good press?

      Methinks with smaller formats such as this, coupled with the power of the intarweb (ultra-cheap word of mouth promotion for good products) the good stuff will still shine through. But the power is in the hands of the gamers!

      For example: look what the internet is doing to the music industry! If this happened in the game industry, that would be spectacular.

      So when you remove glitzy promotion, the small-but-great guy doesn't suffer. Not anymore.

    2. Re:In response to the publisher complaints... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Small correction... Crysis was a small part of _the EA_ booth.

    3. Re:In response to the publisher complaints... by nick_davison · · Score: 2, Insightful

      E3 gains some of its meaning by being the big spectacle.

      People want to know about E3 because it's supposedly a spectacle. Because people want to know about it, the journalists make money by writing about it so they turn up.

      Have a small tradeshow that's little more than small private demos and it loses the hype. Lose the hype and you lose the profitability for journalists to attend. At that point they may as well just go to private demos at the company HQ - which the big companies can afford to put on and the little ones can't.

      As it stands, the big companies presence and blown money has a trickle on effect to the small guys who couldn't attract viewers on their own. It's a lousy deal for the big guys and a great one for the small guys. Move to a smaller show and the small guy absolutely suffers because, great product or not, if relatively few journalists turn up and relatively little hype is generated, the best product that no one cares to hear about is still the best product no one cares to hear about.

  18. My prediction... by KewlioMZX · · Score: 1

    This new E3 format will likely be in effect for anywhere between zero and one year. Either they'll pull the "new" format a few weeks before E3 2007, or they'll see that it's an even worse turnout than E3 2006 and switch back.

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  19. backslash backlash? by Speare · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Is this dupe a Backslash article, or just the run-of-the-mill kind of dupe? Like, did Zonk read the previous replies and decide that there wasn't enough ad hits, or did Zonk NOT even read the little sidebar that's RIGHT THERE ON THE FRONT PAGE that says "Older Stuff: The End of E3?" and decide to crank out this blurb?

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    1. Re:backslash backlash? by mrbooze · · Score: 2, Informative

      The previoud "dupe" was about the unconfirmed rumor. This article is about the officially-confirming press release from the ESA.

    2. Re:backslash backlash? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Previous post was on speculation, this one is on a press release. Believe it or not, they are different things. Nice try though.

  20. Press-only by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Refocusing to benefit the fans and not the press would be a good thing though. Too bad they don't just open E3 to the public, but it looks like what's left over is going to be even more exclusive.
    http://www.megatokyo.com/index.php?strip_id=1

  21. What really happened by Sarusa · · Score: 1

    Everyone spent millions or at least hundreds of thousands of dollars (apiece) to be there - and all everyone wanted to do was play with the Wii. That was probably the final straw.

    Also I imagine Sony pitched a gargantuan fit after they tanked like a Sherman that's thrown its treads.

  22. Re:Sony threw the first stone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, a more reasonable assumption is that several large publishers have spent millions of dollars promoting games at E3 only to be completely ignored by Microsoft announcing Halo, Nintendo displaying Zelda or Konami demonstrating Metal Gear Solid (or what ever game you think is super). There are countless games that need the press from E3 in order to be profitable, but the only games that tend to get any press are the games that would sell well regardless of whether anyone pays any attention.

  23. Video Game "Cannes" by Kenshin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With E3 imploding, the games indutry is losing its biggest attention-grabbing showpiece.

    Ya, it kinda deviated from its original intention as a trade show, but it became sort of a "Cannes" of videogames.

    If you don't know what the Cannes Film Festival is, it's an annual international film festival (obviously) in the city of Cannes, France. The most important film festival in the world. It's filled to the brim with celebrities, and is a favourite venue for famous directors to debut their newest film.

    E3, in recent years, started to emulate this festival in certain ways. In a more plasticky, american way, of course.

    The internet may be the most efficient way of putting-out press releases, trailers and screenshots, but the games industry NEEDS a flashy annual event. (And I'm certain many of you will be quite vocal in your disagreement with this.)

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    1. Re:Video Game "Cannes" by Moofie · · Score: 1

      "but the games industry NEEDS a flashy annual event"

      Why?

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    2. Re:Video Game "Cannes" by Kenshin · · Score: 1

      For the same reason the automotive industry needs its annual Detroit Auto Show. Being there and seeing it is much better than a dry PDF and AVI file. Wandering the floor and finding something unexpected that you weren't exactly looking for.

      Look at Kentia Hall. There is NO WAY IN HELL those companies would have any way of getting any (relatively) decent amount of notice if they relied on the web. (They have a hard enough time as it is getting noticed.)

      The problem is E3 spending got WAY out of control, each company trying to outdo the other.

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    3. Re:Video Game "Cannes" by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Cars exist in real, three dimensional meat-space. Video games do not. I believe this distinction might be significant.

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      Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
    4. Re:Video Game "Cannes" by Kenshin · · Score: 1

      So do things like game consoles and accessories.

      Plus, attentive developers can stand around and watch people interact with their games. See what's working and what's not, without having to dredge teens from a mall for focus testing. (A few times I've been playing games at E3, and seen developers keenly watching.)

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      Does it make you happy you're so strange?

  24. don't show off without money by Hylis · · Score: 1

    Next gen consoles is a pit of money for any big publisher. Who is looking for another reason than that?

  25. Uh, whatever. by stonecypher · · Score: 1

    I don't understand why everyone keeps saying "it won't be e3 anymore." The media circus is recent and ancillary. E3 is and always has been about the back rooms that you have to pay boatloads extra to go to. It's going to be the same E3 it's always been, for the industry people it's always been for.

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    StoneCypher is Full of BS
  26. I'm gonna do my own E3 with blackjack and hookers! by 2008 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, with our next-generation development costs increasing rapidly, I don't think we'll get a reasonable return on our investment with the blackjack.

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    I quit!
  27. layoffs by BGraves · · Score: 1

    The company responsible for running E3 has closed at least two sattelite offices and laid off the staff. Evidently it was not their choice, and this is damage control. No one really knows how next year's E3 will work out, and it may not survive to the year after that.

  28. Riiidge racer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Flip over the giant enemy expo and attack its weak point for massive damage!

  29. Good riddance by DragonPup · · Score: 1

    I went to E3 in 2003, 2004, and 2005 as a guest of a certain smaller publisher that just got gobbled by EA. E3 is *not* a good venue for companies to talk to each other. The big guys have boothes that dwarf everyone one else, not only that, most of them(and special nods to Blizzard and Capcom here) are insanely loud that no one can hear anything below a shout. For every person asking reps meaningful things, there were 8 looking for free junk.

    Pretty much anyone who could pay the admissions reguardless of press or employment status. The fanboys were the worst part(Partly because some people need better showering habits), and likely a main driving force behind these changes.

    I also disagree about E3 helping smaller developers. Fanboys headed straight to the big booths, ignoring everyone else while waiting for 4+ hours to see a small tidbit of Zelda footage and getting some stuffed pokemon crap thing. A lot of the small devlopers get overlooked by the vast amount of fanboys at E3. Thankfully, the gaming press actually visits them so because of that sort of professionalism(ya ya, I know, funny), the small devs don't get totally ignored infavor of the big boys.

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    "Useless organic meatbag" -HK-47
  30. Comic-Con by MsGeek · · Score: 1

    I mentioned this once before but I'll do it again because 1.) I'm a glutton for punishment, and 2.) I think I'm right.

    The big winner in this will be San Diego Comic-Con. Already, many of the game publishers are exhibiting there, and one of the "big three" console makers as well. (Nintendo) I strongly believe that Comic-Con will attract more as e3 becomes smaller and smaller.

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    Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
    1. Re:Comic-Con by Matarick · · Score: 1

      It would be even better if you remove the comics from Comic Con and only have a Video gaming event. That means no anime, board games, card games, just computer/TV based video games ;). If I want to go to a comic book convention, I would go to comic book events, not video games. If I go to Otakon, I could care less if Capcom decides to have a nice booth. If I go to Tokyo Game show, I would not give a fuck if Spike Spiegel returns from the dead for a new season of Cowboy Bebop. If I go to a video game event, the only Green Latern I would want to see is behind a TV monitor and not some sweaty nerd wearing green spandex. Can't we geeks be more fragmented in our pursuits?

  31. PAX by Conception · · Score: 1

    I wonder if PAX will pickup where E3 dies off. It is growing with every year and they seem to be getting more and more insider demos, displays and the lot. Perhaps the Gencon/ComicCon of video games will no longer be E3, but will turn to PAX instead to fill the fanboy urge.

  32. next..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they will be downsizing or moving christmas, that will really take the pressure of those schedules and avoid crunchtime

  33. Re:I'm gonna do my own E3 with blackjack and hooke by idcard_1 · · Score: 1

    cheese it!

  34. More 'Targeted' by Doyle · · Score: 2, Funny

    Reporter: "Does this mean the popularity of E3 is waning?"

    ESA: "Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no...no, no, not at all. I just think that its appeal is becoming more selective."

    (With apologies to Spinal Tap)

  35. Video Coverage by HaMMeReD3 · · Score: 1

    All I really care about at E3 time (along with 99.99% of the public) is that I get my game news and videos delivered to me in a timely fashion. Also, nothing should ever be below HD content on the web from now on. That said, I hope E3's online presence becomes more organized in the process with developers all responsible for delivering content for web-based delivery, so I dont have to watch crappy camera bootlegs of games.

  36. Killer analysis of the whole E3 "nerfing" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    E-3, the Electronic Entertainment Expo, has been officially "Nerfed"
    http://www.marketertoday.com/archives/2006/08/e3_t he_electron.html

    This is a great article and pretty much sums up whats going on with why this happened. He even throws in some fun stuff along the way.