Now, even the athletes don't have the right to describe their own experiences for the outside world
This is the reason I'll never compete in the Olympics. Well, that and the fact that I get winded licking stamps, but mostly for the censorship. Really.
so let me get this straight... i'm an imbecile because i don't have encyclopdic knowledge of thousands of references, and i'm a dimwit because i can't do quality work because i'm given less than half the time it should take to do said work?
look, if what you're saying is that the system needs fixing, i agree 100%. we need to provide far more time for examination of applications, and enough cash for examiners to stay at the PTO instead of fleeing towards industry everytime a recruiter waves a handful of money at them. still don't understand why you have to resort to namecalling, but anyway...
If I go to a surgeon, he'd better know everything about the upcoming operation.
well, that's fine, but see how good a job he does when his boss tells him he has only 5 minutes to remove your appendix...
Again, I recognize that you are overly burdened-- as are many other people. Heck, it's not uncommon for me to work 80 hours or more per week. However, I would never complete a project only half way. I'd either do it right or say, "I don't have time." The latter answer is perfectly acceptable when you literally don't have time.
unfortunately, we have a system of production. we have to get a certain amount of work done every biweek, or we lose our jobs. simple as that.
hmmm... not sure exactly how to respond to such a courteous post.
first off, we really aren't experts. we can't be, given the amount of time we're given to get a case out of our offices. seriously. i barely even have time to read the entire specification before i have to search for references and reject/allow the case.
second, if i'm an "imbecil" [sic] because i'm not aware of the full scope of prior art, then every attorney in the US is an idiot for not knowing every single law in every single state by heart. there are many more than 6 million (!) patents out there, much less japanese, european, PCT (which by the way we do search, thanks), so in my area alone (EE/telecom) i would say there are hundreds of thousands of references i have to sift through to find an applicable reference.
so i'm an "imbecil" because i don't have intimate knowledge of 100,000 technical references off the top of my head? give me a fucking break, jackass.
and as for the pay issue, we have the highest turnover rate of any government agency right now, if i remember correctly. in fact, USA Today (i know, i know) even ran an article stating that the examining core is seriously overworked/underpaid etc etc. so believe me, i'm not the only one of this opinion.
problem is, at the PTO, we're getting less and less time to do a thorough search. the amount of time I get to send out a first action (i.e. rejection, allowance) hasn't changed in like 25 years, even though the number of references to search has gone up 6 or 7 times at least. plus, the "search tools", if you can call them that, well, suck. I know examiners who still do paper file searches because, well, at least the paper files don't crash on you.
now, this isn't an excuse for a bad examination. (note, I am *not* talking about the one-click patent here, technically I am not allowed to comment on the validity of a patent) however, I still believe in the patent system (trademarks and copyrights, that's another matter).
the big problem is, we really don't have the time to do a really good examination of an application. that, plus the fact that we are highly underpaid, and examiners are leaving the PTO in droves for industry, means its really hard to be surprised when a bad patent makes it through.
his means you should get an explosion of radiation as the black hole evaporates entirely, leaving a naked singularity behind it...
...or a theoretical partical called a Boltzmann, which would be about as small as the Plank area and contain all of the information 'sucked up' by the black hole during its lifetime. Of course, it's a little easier to believe in a naked singularity (sorry Mr. Penrose)...
Yeah, right. By that definition, eating hotdogs in the fastest time is a sport
Well, considering Fox's "Guinness World Records Primetime" has such categories as "longest time a weight is held suspended from the nipples" and "the most surgical needles inserted in the body at one time", I don't have much of a problem anymore considering eating hotdogs a sport:)
yeah, I first heard about the ibot quite a while ago, there was a bit about it on 20/20 (or something similar i think)
The coolest part was when he was sitting in the chair, and raised it up to eye level with the interviewer, and asked him to push him. The chair was only on two wheels, and the guy shoved the chair, and it wouldn't tip over. Like a Weeble, it wobbled, but it wouldn't fall down. Hell, I don't have balance like that.
More prior art can result in narrower claims, but a stronger patent.
It's required to turn over all prior art you know of. In fact, if a patent attorney or agent discovers that he/she knows of any prior art, even after the case is issued (but before printing), they have to send it in, in some instances reopening the case (kinda).
However, i have to disagree about the prior art making a stronger patent; as a patent examiner, i have only used the applicant's prior art a few times, and never as the main reference in a rejection over art. In fact, most of the time, the references the attorneys send in are, well, to use a technical term, pretty wack. I'd say 95% of the prior art I use in the prosecution of an application is stuff I found.
The fact that we were *required* by our teachers to watch the tripe definitely gave me a lower opinion of my school.
LISA: They can't seriously expect us to swallow that tripe!
SKINNER: (to class) Now, as a special treat courtesy of our friends at the meat council, please help yourselves to this tripe!
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i think the AP said he would pay in the area of ten million.
guess even that much isn't enough to keep Mir in orbit...
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This is the reason I'll never compete in the Olympics. Well, that and the fact that I get winded licking stamps, but mostly for the censorship. Really.
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look, if what you're saying is that the system needs fixing, i agree 100%. we need to provide far more time for examination of applications, and enough cash for examiners to stay at the PTO instead of fleeing towards industry everytime a recruiter waves a handful of money at them. still don't understand why you have to resort to namecalling, but anyway...
If I go to a surgeon, he'd better know everything about the upcoming operation.
well, that's fine, but see how good a job he does when his boss tells him he has only 5 minutes to remove your appendix...
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unfortunately, we have a system of production. we have to get a certain amount of work done every biweek, or we lose our jobs. simple as that.
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first off, we really aren't experts. we can't be, given the amount of time we're given to get a case out of our offices. seriously. i barely even have time to read the entire specification before i have to search for references and reject/allow the case.
second, if i'm an "imbecil" [sic] because i'm not aware of the full scope of prior art, then every attorney in the US is an idiot for not knowing every single law in every single state by heart. there are many more than 6 million (!) patents out there, much less japanese, european, PCT (which by the way we do search, thanks), so in my area alone (EE/telecom) i would say there are hundreds of thousands of references i have to sift through to find an applicable reference.
so i'm an "imbecil" because i don't have intimate knowledge of 100,000 technical references off the top of my head? give me a fucking break, jackass.
and as for the pay issue, we have the highest turnover rate of any government agency right now, if i remember correctly. in fact, USA Today (i know, i know) even ran an article stating that the examining core is seriously overworked/underpaid etc etc. so believe me, i'm not the only one of this opinion.
to paraphrase, UP YOURS, UGLY
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now, this isn't an excuse for a bad examination. (note, I am *not* talking about the one-click patent here, technically I am not allowed to comment on the validity of a patent) however, I still believe in the patent system (trademarks and copyrights, that's another matter).
the big problem is, we really don't have the time to do a really good examination of an application. that, plus the fact that we are highly underpaid, and examiners are leaving the PTO in droves for industry, means its really hard to be surprised when a bad patent makes it through.
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Well, considering Fox's "Guinness World Records Primetime" has such categories as "longest time a weight is held suspended from the nipples" and "the most surgical needles inserted in the body at one time", I don't have much of a problem anymore considering eating hotdogs a sport :)
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The coolest part was when he was sitting in the chair, and raised it up to eye level with the interviewer, and asked him to push him. The chair was only on two wheels, and the guy shoved the chair, and it wouldn't tip over. Like a Weeble, it wobbled, but it wouldn't fall down. Hell, I don't have balance like that.
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It's required to turn over all prior art you know of. In fact, if a patent attorney or agent discovers that he/she knows of any prior art, even after the case is issued (but before printing), they have to send it in, in some instances reopening the case (kinda).
However, i have to disagree about the prior art making a stronger patent; as a patent examiner, i have only used the applicant's prior art a few times, and never as the main reference in a rejection over art. In fact, most of the time, the references the attorneys send in are, well, to use a technical term, pretty wack. I'd say 95% of the prior art I use in the prosecution of an application is stuff I found.
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LISA: They can't seriously expect us to swallow that tripe!
SKINNER: (to class) Now, as a special treat courtesy of our friends at the meat council, please help yourselves to this tripe!
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tell me about it. I've been playing Snokie for the C64 like a madman, that game is frikkin' impossible! IMHO, more challenging than anything today.
Natalie Portman in parachute pants, hell yeah.