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Star Wars Episode 2 Title Leaked

N8Magic writes "Seems that the title for the new Star Wars flick has been leaked according to a newspaper in Australia. "Episode 2: The Rise of the Empire" is supposedly the working title for the film. " LucasFilm has denied the title as well.

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  1. Re:Quick thoughts... by Evangelion · · Score: 1

    "The Fall of the Jedi" would work.... would parrallel with RotJ the same as TRotE parrallells with TESB...

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  2. Re:The title by tourvil · · Score: 1
    If disemboweling Jar Jar on camera will get Episode II an R rating, then I say go for it.

    I'll even settle for a nice, clean decapitation.

  3. Re:sign this now! by SuperCujo · · Score: 1

    This troll never gives up does he...

    Wait till the sun comes out... Or Gandalf arrives.

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  4. How about? by askheaves · · Score: 1

    They should call it Star Wars: Episode 2 -
    Dear lord, we are sooooo sorry about Jar Jar. It was Bill's idea, and he has been promptly sacked... Thank you




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  5. title by inetd · · Score: 1

    Episode 2: Lucas Is getting Fatter.

  6. Re:Ocean-Front Property in Wyoming... by Van+Halen · · Score: 1

    It was a fake. Check out the FAQs and shot by shot description. This guy did an amazing job.

  7. Re:Episode 2: The Rise of the Empire by ZaMoose · · Score: 2

    "Sweet Jar Jar, I shall avenge your death!"

    "Mesa not dead!"

    "Very well, then, I shall avenge your mortal wounding!"

    "Actually, mesa tinkin mesa gonna pull thru!"

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  8. Re:But by Nerds · · Score: 1

    ...a victim of a disgruntled die hard Star Wars fan who's sick of seeing the "child" element in Star Wars films

    The Star Wars movies have always been for children, that's who they were written for. With the exception of episode 5, none of them can really be considered serious movies (somehow using 'adult' movies as the opposite of child movies just doesn't seem right, which is kind of sad). That being said, they're fun, and I like them, but I'm not expecting a Francis Ford Coppola movie when I watch them.

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  9. Re:Episode I's Title Made No Sense by thehermit · · Score: 1

    It was a reference to Anakin Skywalker. A Menace that no one could foresee....

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  10. Re:How final is it? by Trinition · · Score: 2

    [SARCASM]Perhaps you are right. I shall now keep another window open to the main thread as I'm typing my comment. I will refresh it every second and check for newer comments that my superscede the need for mine. How could I have been so dumb?[/SARCASM]

  11. Re:Au contraire! by T-Ranger · · Score: 1
    Finaly!

    Sanity

    Clarity

    On Slashdot, about StarWars. Brain... exploding..

  12. Re:Au contraire! by Ryandav · · Score: 2

    (laughing)

    I suppose you are right =-)

    It gets easier to say that everything old is better, and that all we have now is crap. Makes me sound like some sort of crotchety old timer...

    "Back in _MY_ day, we hand rendered CGI sequences on paralell-processor SGI farms. You kids with your holographic nonsense these days are all flash and no substance...." (puckered mouth and scratchy voice)

    LOL

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  13. some possible titles by fliptout · · Score: 2

    Star Wars Episode II: The Castration of Jar-Jar Binks
    Star Wars Episode II: Asses of Ire ("..you're a jedi fucker, yes it's true, nobody fucks jedis quite like you!..")
    Star Wars Episode II: Anakin Gets A Spanking
    Star Wars Episode II: Amidala's Innocence Lost
    Star Wars Episode II: More Over-Hyped SW Shit
    Star Wars Episode II: The Wrath of Hamill

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  14. Worthless... by DustyHodges · · Score: 1

    It's neat to know what the working title of it is, but it's no more likely to come out with this title than the G4 was likely to come out with the name PDQ. It's a workign title so they can talk about it amongst themselves without confusion, but I highly doubt that this is going to be even close to the end choice.

  15. The working title? by Bantha+Fodder · · Score: 4

    theforce.net is currently dispelling the rumor. Apparently, they actually talked to Lucasfilm.

    From their web site:

    We just got off the phone with Jeanne Cole from Lucasfilm. As many of you know, many places are reporting that the title to Episode II is "Rise of the Empire". All of this originated from a report from an Australian newspaper that credited "inside sources".

    When we talked to Jeanne, she had actually just become aware of the report. She says they are calling it what everyone else is calling it - Episode II. She said, "At this point it is still Star Wars - Episode II."

    1. Re:The working title? by GuavaBerry · · Score: 1
      It would also be prudent to point out that it's a rumor about the working title. Working titles RARELY become production titles, and are often little more than a hastily stamped name on a script.


      Here's a decent list of the working titles to some familiar movies. Just thought it would better illustrate how unimportant working titles are.

    2. Re:The working title? by powerlord · · Score: 1

      Funny... I always called Episode I the 'Fandom Menace' but thats just me.

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    3. Re:The working title? by Ketzer · · Score: 3

      That isn't actually a denial of the title "Rise of the Empire"

      She just says they are calling it Episode II.

      Well I never called Episode I the "Phantom Menace"
      I thought that was a stupid name, and like almost everyone else I know, I called it "Episode 1." So the fact that she says they call it Episode 2 doesn't mean it's not titled "Rise of the Empire"

  16. Re:Oddly Uninspiring by Alan · · Score: 1

    Ah yes, but don't forget that this is a *leak* and therefor there is a chance it's not true. Remember how they set the title of SW:VI to "revenge of the jedi" for a while, and then at the last minute changed it to ROTJ? This could be what could happen here... maybe Lucas want's to be a bit more secretive this time and leak a fake (and may I say obvious) title while the title that will be released might be quite different.

  17. This is an old rumor. by darth+xenu · · Score: 2

    When "Rise of the Empire" first rumored to be the title of episode 2 back in June of 1997. The whole rumor also said the episode 1 would be called "Balance of the Force" and episode 3 would be called "Fall of the Jedi". Click for more information about this rumor.

    1. Re:This is an old rumor. by darth+xenu · · Score: 1

      Sorry about the magled link. Here's the site I was talking about, http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/sw1C.html

    2. Re:This is an old rumor. by miguel_at_menino.com · · Score: 1

      More info is here.

      The one above is screwy. But then again you can probably just fix the URL.

  18. Re:Oddly Uninspiring by mantis78 · · Score: 2

    Might as well call it Star Wars Episode 2: The Falling of Lucas Empire!

  19. Re:Logically sounds like a Hoax. by sulli · · Score: 1
    Don't forget that there was a complete hoax name for Jedi. I can't remember what it was, but I recall that there were hats and jackets made to fool the press...

    sulli

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  20. Re:But by luckykaa · · Score: 1

    "Pathetic race"?

    Okay, Jar-Jar I undertstand, but the great Gungan Race has Boss Nass in charge. How can you possibly come down on a character played by an actor with such flexibility and versatility as Brian Blessed?

  21. SpaceBalls Sequel Title by hodeleri · · Score: 2

    SpaceBalls 2 - Rise of the Umpire

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    1. Re:SpaceBalls Sequel Title by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      There was a rumour that there was going to be a spaceballs 3 - the search for spaceballs 2

    2. Re:SpaceBalls Sequel Title by cje · · Score: 1

      Actually, if I'm not mistaken, the title of the Spaceballs sequel (as revealed in the original movie) is Spaceballs: The Search For More Money. The almighty Yogurt, after all, is never wrong.

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    3. Re:SpaceBalls Sequel Title by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 1
      I heard that the next one would be called "Spaceballs 3: The Search for Spaceballs 2."

      What is Mel Brooks doing these days?

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    4. Re:SpaceBalls Sequel Title by chowda · · Score: 2

      They named the spaceballs sequal in the first movie... "The Search For More Money"... remember?

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  22. Re:Portman! by TBHiX · · Score: 1

    For once, a Natalie Portman comment on Slashdot is not off-topic... just. Still, of course Ms. Portman's going to be in it. Hasn't that been confirmed for some time?

    -TBHiX- wanted: one bomb shelter to hide in when Slashdot airs the article "Ask Natalie Portman". (shudder)

  23. Re:Episode 2: The Rise of the Empire by piku · · Score: 1

    hahahahahahaha

    If I had points and didnt post in this thread i would give you all 5 of them if possible.

  24. Re:But by MouseR · · Score: 2

    Let me reiterate my thoughts on Jar Jar...

    This "brainless" creature is, against all odds, aware of The Force. No kidding. The ride through the Plaaaanet Cooore proves it:

    Dont worry, the force will guide us. says Qui Gon.
    Ah! Itsy bit the Force! replies jar Jar.

    Also, Jar Jar says he was banished from his city because he was clumbsy ("Er.. youssa might be sayin' that" he replies to Obi One's question).

    This leads me to what I beleive is the true nature of Jar Jar's stupendous luck during the battle droids fight (where he keeps on shooting other droids with the one caught in his foot).

    Hold on to yourself, the truth may be ugly...

    There isn't only the Good and Evil side of the force ...

    There is also the

    Stupid Force!

    I know it's shocking, but it's the only true answer to the whole mistery of the force requiring ballance.

    Anaking is so strong in the Evil side (and so is Palpatine) that only the Stupid side can counter-effect Palpatine's plan and lead him into the fatal decision of asking Luke to replace Vador. This really stupid move utterly pissed Vador which led to Palpatine's demise.

    I bet what will kill Jar jar in episode 2 (I hope) if not episode 3 (as a last resort) will be when Jar jar tells Parpatine:

    I know thessa stupid in you!

  25. He denied it - it must be true! by donutello · · Score: 1

    I never believe a rumour until I begin hearing a counter-rumour anyway. Like the last time there were rumours of a re-org at work, I didn't believe them until someone started rumours that there wouldn't be a re-org. That's when I knew a re-org was inevitable and sure enough it came through the week after.

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  26. Better Titles? by Luminous · · Score: 1
    Any body remember Blue Harvest?

    Okay, this isn't exactly the same issue. But working titles are meaningless. They are just a reference so everyone knows what project your are talking about. This one happens to describe what is going to happen in this episode. By far it is better than The Phantom Menace which sounds more like some bad 1940's black and white serial.

    Here's an interesting comparison though.
    A New Hope - The Phantom Menace
    Empire Strikes Back - The Rise of the Empire
    Return of the Jedi - ?? The Last Jedi ?? Jedi Dispersed ?? No More Jedi ?? Jedi Go Bye-Bye

    I don't claim to be the best title writer but you can see the comparison of titles and the possible direction for the Third Title.

    At the end of the day, though, no matter what they call it, even knowing the title years in advance, has no real effect on whether I'll see the movie or not. Call it Star Wars:That Space Fantasy Movie and I'll see it. It is the Star Wars part that is important.

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  27. Re:Episode 2: The Rise of the Empire by ackthpt · · Score: 1

    "Sweet Jar Jar, I shall avenge your death!"

    :)

    (Slightly on topic)

    Well, why they heck not, Mel Brooks did a pretty decent send up with "Spaceballs", why not combine Python and E1...

    Megapode 1: The Python Menace

    nah, yer right, it's too obscure...

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  28. But by niekze · · Score: 2

    wouldn't it be a better title if it was "Episode Two: The Rise of the Merchandising Empire"

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    1. Re:But by AntiNorm · · Score: 2

      wouldn't it be a better title if it was "Episode Two: The Rise of the Merchandising Empire"

      Or "Episode 2: The Fall of Jar-Jar Binks and his Pathetic Race"

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    2. Re:But by kill+-9+$$ · · Score: 1
      Somewhat true, however, the child appealing element has not really been that heavily emphasized except in later movies (i.e TPM and ROTJ). I thought ROTJ was bad with the ewoks, but Jar-jar and the gungans were just way over the top.

      Other than these two movies there are really no characters with the "kiddie" (for lack of a better term) appeal. R2D2 and C3PO in ESB and Star Wars might be a possible choice. But they are not so outlandishly targeted to the younger folks in the audience as groups of characters in the last two, and Phantom Menace especially.

      My final exception to your post revolves around the Star Wars movies being for children. I disagree. The flow of the Star Wars movie is taken almost verbatim from Joeseph Cambell's lectures/notes/books? (I heard it on an audio book kinda thing) on how to write an epic tale. This is why Star Wars is so successful, it spans generations. Empire Strikes Back, again has epic tale stuff, and spans generations. Return of the Jedi, still pretty good because it keeps along these lines. Phantom Menace, still has some epic stuff when you look at the overall work of films, but there is an awful lot of emphasis on making it a "fun", bring the whole family kinda movie IMO.

      My feelings are mixed, it was an O.k. movie. Perhaps in the grand scheme of things it will fit nicely, but right now, I think it was well below the quality of movie that George Lucas can put out. As a result, I'm looking forward to episode's II and III because with the turn in the story line, I think he can focus less (or at least give me more to focus on so I can focus less) on the cuddly cute characters and more on a really good story.

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    3. Re:But by JSurguy · · Score: 1

      i don't know - think about the Hawkmen in Flash Gordon......

    4. Re:But by grammar+nazi · · Score: 1
      Things that you won't see in Episode Two:

      Jar Jar Binks dead.

      Alien accents that create racial prejudice (Jar Jar now sounds like a good old midwestern Starbucks coffee drinking and Barns & Noble reading US citizen).

      Excellent acting.

      Darth Maul (died before his time IMHO).

      Natalie Portman naked (sorry Slashdotters).

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    5. Re:But by mrzaph0d · · Score: 1

      Other than these two movies there are really no characters with the "kiddie" (for lack of a better term) appeal. R2D2 and C3PO in ESB and Star Wars might be a possible choice. But they are not so outlandishly targeted to the younger folks in the audience as groups of characters in the last two, and Phantom Menace especially.

      i know most of my friends weren't drawn so much to R3D3 or C3PO in the movies, but rather to Han and Leia. All the guys wanted to be Han or Luke (mostly Han, he was cooler and didn't whine, plus he had that kick-ass spaceship).
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    6. Re:But by RunsWithScissors · · Score: 1

      Do does this misterious "Stupid Side" of the force apply (at least partially) to Han Solo as well? I mean, according to all the varied stuff I have read, he made the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs... because he was being chased... He drops into a cantina looking for a charter that will let him pay of Jabba,(why else is he on Tatooine anyway, it IS Jabba's stronghold...) who does he get? Ben and Luke... In Ep V he goes out into a freezing night on Hoth to find luke with NO way to find him except limited range sensors, kills his own Tauntaun from exposure, but still finds Luke and fortunately keeps him alive... Later he flies INTO an asteroid field... with odds of sucessfully navigating it very very high (forgive me, I dont remember the exact number, and don't have time to pop in one of the three cassetes I have.) So they survive... and he decides to hide in an asteroid... Where do they wind up... the belly of a gigantic space slug(what the heck does something that size eat anyway? Star Destroyers?) And as a final example (by no means the last one) As they run from the fighters that found them runnning from the slug, he decides to hide by latching on to the SD's command tower. (Hmmm... being chased by TIE's yet still manages to elude them, AND lands on a portion of the SD that has no windows... ok, I guess the Force protects the insane and the foolish... "\n WhatHTML\nI use C++";

    7. Re:But by kill+-9+$$ · · Score: 1
      Easy...

      Big fat gungan leader shaking his face back and forth: "BWRABWRABWRABWRA"

      <BANG!>

      Big fat gungan falls to the floor dead, a victim of a disgruntled die hard Star Wars fan who's sick of seeing the "child" element in Star Wars films

      Gungans could be cool, but between the fat dude and Jar-jar, George just fscked up.

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    8. Re:But by Wellitsoun · · Score: 1

      Interesting...our Grammar Nazi here spelled the "Barnes" of Barnes & Noble wrong. tsk-tsk-tsk

  29. Why not? by qqaz · · Score: 1

    It certainly sounds more Star Warsy than the Scooby Doo-like "The Phantom Menace". Until this is confirmed, though, I'll continue calling it "The Menace Strikes Back".

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  30. episode II trailer spoof by morton2002 · · Score: 1

    You can see an excellent spoof of Episode II (as a trailer) at AdCritic: click here

  31. Re:Real imaginitive by KickKat · · Score: 1

    Star Wars, Episode II - The Sith Lord Who Shagged Me.

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  32. At least it's better than by Lyrrad · · Score: 2

    Star Wars II: The Return of Jar Jar

  33. Better title: The Death of Jar-Jar by Wag · · Score: 1

    I think you know what I mean. :)

  34. wow. by ^_^x · · Score: 1

    Of all the things to be leaked, this seems the least significant thing possible. I hope Lucas doesn't take it out of control and end up pulling an Apple on whoever did it.

  35. Re:The Slashdot rumour mill by FauxPasIII · · Score: 1

    Oh, for the love of god... as if there weren't already enough Natlie Portman trolls around these parts, you have to go and bait them like this?

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  36. Yeah right... by kill+-9+$$ · · Score: 1

    C'mon do you thing George would choose such an obvious title? Why not call Episode I, "We are introduced to Anakin..."

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    1. Re:Yeah right... by colmore · · Score: 1

      and its not like George wouldn't think of changin a title because of the leak... oh wait i have to go

      <I>Revenge of the Jedi</I> is on TBS...

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    2. Re:Yeah right... by odaiwai · · Score: 1

      'Revenge' was changed to 'Return' as revenge was not a Jedi concept.

      dave

  37. Yuk of the Blurgh by luckykaa · · Score: 1

    Hope they change it. Far too many of the non-film parts of the SW franchise have had something of the something.

  38. Re:Logically sounds like a Hoax. by Skyfire · · Score: 1

    I dunno, from what I have read of prescripts and information about ep4 In 4 the emipre is just fininishing up cleaning up the senate (leia being the last). If annie is supposed to downfall in 3, why would the empire rise allready? Yeah i can see a shadowed rise in the backround and covering it upwith the clone wars ( somebody else other then the trade federation picking a fight with the rebuplic), but I don't see a big sign from the empire saying WE ARE HERE WE HAVE ROSE WE WILL DESTROY YOU yet.

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  39. Re:I'd hoped Lucas could do better by keymygrip · · Score: 1

    Just so you know... The first movie is called Star Wars: A New Hope. Not just Star Wars.

  40. It's a rumor for God's sake ! by Augusto · · Score: 1

    Let's not start critizing the non-title ... It's not the official title, it's probably something the clueless reporter who wrote the article read on the internet. The title, is not new, it's been bounced around since last year !

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    1. Re:It's a rumor for God's sake ! by Zerothis · · Score: 1

      Actually there was this magazine article "The Next Star Wars Movies" clear back in 1996 that suggested this title. Some Sci-Fi mag, I'm sorry I can't remeber the name. It also said the first episode would be called "The Clone Wars"

  41. Why it's called a working title... by WillAffleck · · Score: 1

    If you follow any of the Hollywood rags, you'll see most films go through about 4 or 5 working titles before they even get to the cutting room floor.

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  42. Interesting.. by slycer · · Score: 2

    Someone has already reserved the domain name

    1. Re:Interesting.. by Bronster · · Score: 1
      Now, perhaps other titles could be determined by looking at domain registrations that were done about the same time by the same person. (An exercise left to the reader).

      Seriously though, if I was working for Lucas I would have made up a couple of hundred 'likely' sounding names and reserved all the domain names. Come on, considering what a single movie costs, squatting over a pile of namespace is nothing.

    2. Re:Interesting.. by sdo1 · · Score: 1

      The domain seems to have been created in '98. So either this guy registered everything he could think might be the title of the movie, or he just got real damn lucky (or unlucky depending on how you look at it)

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    3. Re:Interesting.. by slycer · · Score: 1

      Actually, it probably stems from here, which of course was written in 97, the rise of the empire is mentioned in there.

    4. Re:Interesting.. by VP · · Score: 1

      It is a "personal" domain, registered on January 8, 1999. The guy obviously hasn't done anything with it...

    5. Re:Interesting.. by Desdinova77 · · Score: 1

      Not to fear.. if that is the title the WIPO will just hand it over to Lucus when the time comes

    6. Re:Interesting.. by John+Jorsett · · Score: 2

      Lucas has had a 'roadmap' of the entire 9-episode Star Wars series in his head since the first one. I recall an interview with him on the occasion of the third movie (sorry, not enough of a fan to recall the title), which was to be number 6 in the timeline of the series. He talked then about his plans to next do the first 3, then the final 3, saying he might use the original cast, "if they're old enough". So it wouldn't surprise me to find out that he's had the titles worked out all along. Now, perhaps other titles could be determined by looking at domain registrations that were done about the same time by the same person. (An exercise left to the reader).

  43. Re:Oddly Uninspiring by wuice · · Score: 2

    Yeah, that would really go along the lines of the other, mysterious Star Wars movie titles. I mean, The Empire Strikes Back, I wondered what that movie was going to be about for all of five minutes. And Return of the Jedi. Such mystique. Though, I agree that Balance of the Force would be a good title. But, so is what's being proposed (even if just a rumor). All Star Wars movie titles aim to condense the theme of the movie in no uncertain terms. The old movies did, I don't see why these should do differently just because we're now older and more jaded.

  44. Empire Chicken by Benwick · · Score: 1
    It is interesting that he's working (if tentatively) the title "Empire" into this one, when he also used it in the second of the old set (Episode V). Since most of the anti-Phantom crowd are also pro-Empire, and most people worth their moviegoing salt acknowledge Empire as the only one with any real depth (of character, plot, and even meaning as it explores the issues of man becoming machine), perhaps this is a subtle ploy to regain some of his fans who were so irritated at Jar Jar.

    Granted I don't really think that. I think this one should be called "Episode 2: Buy More Yoda Dolls".

  45. Re:The Slashdot rumour mill by u02sgb · · Score: 1
    Yes, I can.

    Apparently Episode three is going to include multiple bondage scenes, Anakin actually turns to Black leather before the dark side.

    The working title for Darth's costume is apparently "The Gimp suit".

    Or maybe not.

  46. Revenge of the Jedi by .sig · · Score: 1

    I've even seen full posters for that one. (IIRC it wasn't really a hoax, but an attempt at misinformation that someone didn't realize. A local comic shop here used to have bumper stickers for it, of all things...)
    As for episode II, I really doubt that'd be the title. After all, that's what I predicted a while ago, and we all know that GL doesn't do what we expect with any of the SW stuff...

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  47. Four Words by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2

    Revenge of the Jedi

  48. couple of points from an old GL Interview by Averye0 · · Score: 1

    On the old SW Trilogy videos, GL did a three-part interview with Leonard Maltin in which GL explained his concept of a trilogy. He says something to the effect of, "In the first part you introduce the characters. In the second you get them into the deepest, darkest hole that you can possibly imagine. And in the third part, you get them out of it." That is generally the pattern to trilogies (HHGTTG excepted, of course), so why would Episodes I-III be different than IV-VI?

    Averye0

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  49. Re:Bah! by The-Bus · · Score: 1

    'Eaters of the Dead' was the original title of the book written by Michael Chrichton. It is an especially terrible attempt to plagiarize Beowulf, and his worst book by far. That and the title sucks.

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  50. Mischief and Misinformation by novakane007 · · Score: 1

    I think Lucas has operations running on keeping things secret. Some of the lies that get told on the internet are sometimes bullshit posts and hoaxes, but who from?.... I think Lucasfilms actually leakes "test" info. You can get a candid re-action from your core audience (geeks) by leaking something on to the internet.

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  51. Re:Whoop D Dooo by Augusto · · Score: 1

    > I'm sure I'm not the only one that doesn't really care what on earth they call it...

    Not the only one, but definetly in the minority.

    Hey, no problem, just don't watch episodes II and III. That means less time for the rest of us to wait in line ! :)

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  52. trailer??? probably fake.... by zygan · · Score: 1

    A few people have probably already seen this Episode 2 Trailer?? Sorry it's quicktime for those people on linux...i'm at work on crap winnt boxen ...Is it fake or not??..i have no idea

    1. Re:trailer??? probably fake.... by thppt · · Score: 1

      It's fake. Check out TheForce.net.

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  53. History Lesson by HerbieTMac · · Score: 1

    For those of you who remember, Episode VI had a multitude of titles. Lucas went so far as to have posters printed with the title "Revenge of the Jedi". Needless to say, he managed to keep his secret until its release in theaters. The official line about why the title was "Return of the Jedi" rather than Revenge: A Jedi would never seek revenge.

    1. Re:History Lesson by Sadfsdaf · · Score: 1

      Episode VI was SUPPOSED to be called "Revenge of the Jedi" but there was some kind of Star Trek movie going to have a similar name that was going to be released the same year, so lucas changed it to Return of the Jedi, but eventually the Star Trek movie changed its name ALSO for other reasons.

      =]

    2. Re:History Lesson by Chiasmus_ · · Score: 1

      FUCK!!!

      You're now the TWELVE MILLIONTH POSTER to give us that LAME PIECE OF INFORMATION!

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  54. Re: already excited about Star Wars II by The-Bus · · Score: 1

    ...and it's always a relief when the 300 lb. guy next to you, alread sweating, isn't inside a hot Wookie suit for opening night.

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  55. Re:Episode 2: The Rise of the Empire by Fishstick · · Score: 1
    "...she's got _huge_... tracts of land!"

    "But I don't want any of that, Father. The girl I marry will have a certain... special..."

    "HOLD ON! HOLD ON! No Singing!"

    heh, rather watch that one again than sit through another hour and 40 of "Jar Jar does Amidala in front of Anakin."

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  56. Re:How final is it? by susano_otter · · Score: 1

    Heh. The rule is: "whatever comment you're planning to make, some other slashdotter has already made it".

    Don't bother posting unless a) it's an opinion and you're reasonably sure it's not sufficiently similar to the opinions of other slashdotters, or b) it's a fact that is linked to other websites containing useful and potentially new information.

    Duh.

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  57. Re:Doesnt make sense by DEATH+AND+HATRED · · Score: 1

    How can the 3rd one end up with the good guys winning? The closest you can come is princess leia getting the plans to the Death Star, and escaping...err, wait, she didnt make it!

  58. Star Wars 2002: Everyone Likes Large Numbers by monkey+#+omega+1 · · Score: 2
    Or: Marketing Ploy to Get You to See Episode 1: Special Edition

    Maybe they'll digitally add a dancing paperclip to various scenes, since in retrospect, Jar Jar wasn't quite annoying enough...

  59. Re:Titles by Ravagin · · Score: 1

    Take it from Juliet, what's in a name? a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
    Or, as Mark Fabi put it in Wyrm, a rose by any other name would still smell like the sex organ of a thorny shrub.
    Sorry, had to get that off my chest ... ;)
    Anyway, I agree with you. The title won't affect the quality of the movie... it's kind of like judging a good fantasy booka s bad just because the cover artist has a thing for scantily clad women.
    -J

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  60. Re:Logically sounds like a Hoax. by RAruler · · Score: 1

    IIRC Star Wars: ANH's working title was 'Star Killer'.. Episode 2 will be even more cloaked in secrecy than Episode 1 was.. but Episode 3 will be the end all of lines. People will take months off from work just to camp out, because it is the 'last' star wars film. Unless Lucas decides to scrap it all instead for a Howard the Duck sequel *shudder*.

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  61. AWT: Return to Burning Man: Jar Jar Must Fry by WillAffleck · · Score: 1

    Everyone knows that this was just a hoax: the real working title is Return to Burning Man: Jar Jar Must Fry.

    Naturally, George is keeping that title under wraps, because it would give away one of the subplots, in which Jar Jar is burned inside a large wicker man built in a temporary city located in a desert.

    All the secrets will be revealed at the Alter of the Mystical Frog of the Playa, but only during the ceremonies held at A.R.F.

    If you're not Of The Frog, it's just not your day ...

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  62. no trademark info at USPTO by brer_rabbit · · Score: 1
    I can't find any trademark info at the USPTO for _Rise of the Empire_. I did a keyword search for "Rise" AND "Empire".

    Lucas does (of course) have trademarks for everything else. Phantom Menace, Star Wars, etc etc. I did a search for trademarks owned by "Lucasfilm" or "Lucas Licensing" & didn't see much of interest.

    Anyone know what "The Seventh Tower" is? That's one of the trademarks I didn't recognize. Also, how long before the movie comes out do you think they'll have to get a trademark?

  63. Episode II: All Jar Jars Must Die! by TheDullBlade · · Score: 2

    Senator Palpatine at his most evil: he clones Jar Jar by the thousands!

    His own people, deeply ashamed by the proliferation of this most pathetic example of their species, feel obligated to fix it.

    The latter hour of the movie consists entirely of thousands of Jar Jars being launched out of the catapults they used in the Episode I, some with explosives, some against cliff walls, others into spiked pits. Every last Jar Jar gets catapulted to a gory death, rendered in exquisite detail with the latest CGI techniques.

    This "leak" is just a clever ploy to make sure that the real plot of Episode II is not over-hyped to the point that it is disappointing as many found Episode I.

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  64. Ocean-Front Property in Wyoming... by WombatControl · · Score: 2

    Um... no...

    Remember, Lucasfilm is actually disseminating *dis*information about the prequels to keep all the online sources off the trail. I'll be willing to be that this title isn't even close to the one that will be released. (Anyone remember "Balance of the Force" that was absolutely going to be the title for Episode 1.) Anyone remember the Darth Bane/Christopher Walken rumor? Gary Coleman playing Yoda? (OK, so I made that one up... so sue me... oh, wait, if I ended up with Judge Kaplan I'd probably lose... so don't sue me!)

    What will be a sure bet is that whatever title is picked will have never been guessed before. Personally, I'm going for "The Prequel Formerly Known as Star Wars Episode II"...

    1. Re:Ocean-Front Property in Wyoming... by Capt_Troy · · Score: 1

      Well, maybe I'm a bit late on this... But I just downloaded the trailer from gnutella snd the final shot has Christopher Walken in it. Looks like he's got some sort of glazed over eyes or something. Now I've heard that the trailer was a fake, but it looks pretty damn real, has Smits in it, the new anikan kid in it... Well, that's just me chiming in here.

      capt.

  65. I know the plot to The Rise of the Empire! by Kwelstr · · Score: 1

    Star Wars chapter 2 will star young Bill Gates working in his garage, plotting to take over the world.

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  66. Re:Logically sounds like a Hoax. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Actually, it wasn't a hoax name at all. It was supposed to be called Revenge of The Jedi, but Lucas decided that revenge was not a Jedi quailty and therefore the title should be changed. The hats and t-shirts were just pre-production stuff before the change of the title. God it's sad that I know this....

  67. What about the porn version? by Aelcyx · · Score: 1

    Will they call the porn version, "The Rise of the Emperor"? Hmm...wonder if they can shrink Leia's metal bra to fit Amidala...

  68. Seems to be a pattern here... by Glowing+Fish · · Score: 2

    Maybe Episode Three will be 'Return of the Sith'

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  69. All star wars rumors are always true.. by Rombuu · · Score: 2

    I mean, that why

    1) I loved Revenge of the Jedi
    2) Kenneth Branagh was great as Obi Wan in the last movie
    3) It was great to see Harrison Ford playing Han Solo's father in the last movie
    4) Charleton Heston's cameo was fun too

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  70. Does this surprise you? by FortKnox · · Score: 1

    Lucas had already mentioned how its gonna be :
    Star Wars I: You fall in love with anakin, and he meets everyone. OB1 becomes a cool jedi.
    Star Wars II: Anakin becomes a big hero, OB1 becomes the big ass-kickin jedi.
    Either II or III: Anakins giant fall from grace. The Clone Wars. Bubba Fett is to make an appearance here and there too.
    Star Wars III: Rise of Darth Vadar, and the fight between Darth and OB1. Extermination of the jedi

    So does the name "Rise of the Empire" surprise you? Seeing as the title of episode 1 is kinda unique, I'm guessing this is a fake.

    And, just so you know, Lucas already said Jar Jar will be in all 3, so don't keep your hopes up.


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  71. If they REALLY wanted to sell tickets... by Raymond+Luxury+Yacht · · Score: 1

    They should call it:

    "Star Wars, JarJar Dies A Painfull Death and Princess Amidala Gets Nekkid and Petrified".

    Hell... I'd by that for a dollar! :-)

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  72. wait on portman death by colmore · · Score: 1

    actually if your remember, Leia has distant memories of her mother which means at least two years have to elapse between birth of the twins and portman's death

    also lucas has been quoted as saying episode 2 will be mainly a "love story"

    does star wars meets nine months scare anyone else ?

    on another note, does this stuff matter at all? i mean, sure we can all get excited about the new movies, but will anyone ever really consider them with the originals? i imagine they will allways just be thaught of as related but not central (like the ewoks movie!)

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    1. Re:wait on portman death by WinDoze · · Score: 1

      does star wars meets nine months scare anyone else ?

      Sure, but "Star Wars" meets "9 1/2 Weeks" sounds pretty damn good.

  73. Re:Episode 2: The Rise of the Empire by ackthpt · · Score: 1

    Hah, good try, better get over to www.natalieportman.com before you make that mistake again.

    Vote Naked 2000

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  74. Re:Brilliant folks at annova by Chiasmus_ · · Score: 1

    Like duh, Darth is evil in a new hope (iv), good in ep 1, that leaves 2 for turn to evil and 3 for consolidate evil.

    I'm pretty sure he'll have sex with Natalie Portman while he's still good... plus, she has to be given nine months to have Luke & Leia... and then, I suppose, she has to die. I'm not sure he'll actually turn evil in 2.

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  75. Re:already excited about Star Wars II by wuice · · Score: 1

    That's what I'm talking about! The more people outraged with Star Wars, the shorter line I have to wait in, the fewer pushing, elbowing creeps I have to contend with on opening night. :)

  76. Is this news? (spoiler?) by csbruce · · Score: 1

    I remember reading the titles of the three movies a year or two ago. Maybe I only read rumors and Lucas plans to change the names at the last minute, but...

    1. The Phantom Menace
    2. The Rise of the Empire
    3. The Fall of the Jedi

  77. Re:Oddly Uninspiring by marlowe23 · · Score: 1

    How about Star Wars Episode 2: The Incredibly Unfunny Jab At Lucas That's Not Even Remotely Clever or Witty But Somehow Got Moderated Up, God Only Knows How, You Just Have to Shrug and Accept That It's an Imperfect World.

    * * *

  78. All Together Now... by Calamari+Indigo · · Score: 1

    This is just a movie.
    It's not real.
    It may be "News for Nerds" but it's hardly "Stuff that matters". This is in the same category as argueing over whether or not faeries have credit cards.

    Someone please moderate this whole thread/topic down to "-215, Reality Not Included".

  79. Re:Episode I's Title Made No Sense by owillis · · Score: 1

    My point exactly. No one knows...
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  80. Worst episode ever by LMacG · · Score: 2

    How about Star Wars Episode 2: An Alan Smithee Film?

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  81. How final is it? by Trinition · · Score: 2
    How final is that name?

    Just remember Return of the Jedi was once named Revenge of the Jedi. Even some trailers were made using that vengeful name.

    1. Re:How final is it? by Chiasmus_ · · Score: 2

      FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!

      You are the EIGHTEENTH PERSON who mentioned that!!

      Read before you post!!

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  82. WHAT? by AbbyNormal · · Score: 1

    Dammit! THEY RUINED THE ENTIRE FILM FOR ME! Anakin Skywalker becomes Darth Vader? NOoooooooooooooooooo! Well that's $8 more in my pocket!




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  83. No, it's not by tuffy · · Score: 2

    According to the at theForce.net.

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    1. Re:No, it's not by tuffy · · Score: 1

      And pardon my crappy grammer. I messed-up my post and didn't get the proper link added.

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  84. Re:Real imaginitive by kill+-9+$$ · · Score: 1
    I'd like to see that movie. I think the dramatic conflicts simliar to Melrose Place that will show up between ANAKIN Skywalker and this Aidan fellow when ANAKIN finds out he's shagging his woman will be most interesting.... In other news, George has backed down on directing Episode II and has hired Aaron Spelling, an expert in this genre of filmwork.

    Sorry couldn't resist...

    Now I know why Darth Vader (Anakin for those who think the man behind the mask is Aidan) was a sap for all those girly movies. (ref. TIE-tanic)

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  85. Titles by Ketzer · · Score: 4

    This just in, according to the webpage at www.starwars.com, the title for Episode 2 will be:
    1 4m 133t h4X0r, 1 0wn j00 1uc45!

    George Lucas was available for comment on the leak, saying:
    "You are all morons."
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    But seriously, who really cares? What difference does it make?
    Take it from Juliet, what's in a name? a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

    1. Re:Titles by Rothron+the+Wise · · Score: 1

      a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

      Not if they were called stenchblossoms!

      A penny for your thoughts.

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  86. Star Wars: Rise of Publicity by oliverk · · Score: 2

    Just cut to the chase, George...

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  87. Re:already excited about Star Wars II by Blue23 · · Score: 1
    Muhahaha, since Episode I stunk so bad, those of us who believe that screwing up once doesn't mean you've lost it completely will be able to get tickets without standing on line.

    Which of course brings us back to the real title for Episode II: Revenge of the Jar Jar.

    This title will scare away so many of you "non-believers" that scoring tickets will be easy. Of course, it's all a fake - those of us in the know understand that it has nothing to do with Jar Jar, we'll be laughing up our sleeves the entire time.

    =Blue

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  88. Re:Cyder House Jar Jar by Money__ · · Score: 3

    Star Wars Episode 2: The Rise of Jar Jar Binks.
    Synopsis: From the producers of "Cyder House Rules" and "Fried Green Tomatoes", this feel good romantic comedy tracks the trials and tribulations of the young Jar Jar in a tender coming of age story. Winona Rider and jar jar spend fall in new york frolicing in the autum leaves and finding the kind of deep, passionate love that most aliens can only dream of.
    Nooooooooo!

  89. Episode I's Title Made No Sense by owillis · · Score: 1

    "The Phantom Menace" - they never explained it in the movie and seems to me to be an obscure fanboy reference. At least New Hope, Strikes Back and Jedi were easily explained...
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    1. Re:Episode I's Title Made No Sense by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      To be chasing a 'phantom menace' is to be chasing something that you think is horrible, but isn't. In Episode 1, the Phantom Menace is the Trade Federation dispute; the intrepid heroes think that it's the real crisis, and they think that they've sovled it, and will prevent similar from happening in the future with the removal of Valorean as Chancellor. In actuality, they've put Palpatine in place as Chancellor, where he'll slowly move more and more power to the office, away from the Senate, turning the Republic into an Empire, Roman style. That is the REAL menace, and he spun an entire Phantom Menace to not only futher his plans, but to get the Jedi to help him, and to feel good about it.

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    2. Re:Episode I's Title Made No Sense by Jon+Shaft · · Score: 1
      "The Phantom Menace" - they never explained it in the movie and seems to me to be an obscure fanboy reference.

      Wasn't the Phantom Menace a reference to Darth Maul?

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  90. I don't care anymore. by knife_in_winter · · Score: 1

    As far as I am concerned, any more StarWars movies will just be The Pain.

    That's right:

    Episode II: The Pain

    and (you guessed it)

    Episode III: Return Of The Pain


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  91. Cameo Beverly Hills Cop III? by MudDude · · Score: 1

    Howdie, Please confirm following: - Beverly Hills Cop III Cameo: A Giant Wheel attraction goes haywire because bullets enter the control system. when Eddy Murphy enters the Wheel-scene in some little carriage to save some kids lives bungling in some other carriage, he interrupts two people attempting to enter the carriage and go for a ride. One is an elderly corpulent man, with black and grey hair and beard in a t-shirt. Is this GEORGE LUCAS? Couldn't find info in IMDB. Please confirm. Regards,

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  92. Re:Oddly Uninspiring by NeuroKoan · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I like that one. Or maybe "Restoring the Balance"

    who knows? titles usually suck anyways




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  93. Episode 2: The return of the Cardboard Actors ! by bushboy · · Score: 1

    Or Episode 2: The rise of the plastic yoda Episode 2: The biggest movie con in history Episode 2: The return of all the morons who camped out for 4 days waiting to see the movie and then pretended they actually liked it. Episode 2: I'm only acting in this because of the money Episode 2: The movie is crap, but the action figures are cool !

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  94. Re:I don't get it by Calamari+Indigo · · Score: 1

    It's mediocre.

    Most 13 year-olds I've talked to acknowledge this.

  95. Star Wars Ep 3 working title? by Felinoid · · Score: 2

    Star Wars Ep 3: Howard the Duck

    Howard the Duck teams up with Jar Jar binks...
    Paramount is rummored to have liccensed the rights of the carricer Wessly Crusher to this movie...

    In an interview Lucas said "Well I did say 3 would be a major disapointment"....

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  96. Re:Don't believe it! by Chiasmus_ · · Score: 1

    FUCKING SHIT!!

    Does EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SLASHDOT TEENAGER have to post this piece of information without reading a single comment?!?!?

    When it was posted as comment #5, I found it vaguely interesting! When it was posted as comment #11, I snickered at the redundant moron who didn't read before he posted. When it was posted as comments #18, #26, #34, #37, #52, #71, #76, and #91, I began to TEAR OUT MY HAIR AT THE ROOTS!

    For fuck's sake! Read before you post!!!

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  97. Re:I'd hoped Lucas could do better by dwhitman · · Score: 1

    Just so you know... The first movie was RELEASED as "Star Wars". It was renamed SW:ANH upon re-release.

  98. Episode 2: The Apology by PNutts · · Score: 1

    ...to steal a line from Dennis Miller!

  99. Re:Au contraire! by Phil+the+Canuck · · Score: 1

    "Kind of like Futurama, with a straight face."

    Darth Bender, anyone?

  100. Re:The title by way2slo · · Score: 1
    Never happen. All of his toys are marketed toward the kids. To make a Star Wars movie that they could not go and see would be disasterous. He would lose millions in merchandising. (If you need more help in understanding this, go watch Spaceballs again and pay attention to when Lonestar, Barf, Vespa, and Dot find Yogert.)

    Of course, he's going to have to flirt with an 'R' rating at some point. Luke and Leia don't just appear out of thin air. We all know what has to happen. Sometime in the next movie or two there will have to be either a love scene between Anakin and Amidala or a hint of one. The question will be 'Can Lucas have a love scene AND still keep the PG-13 rating?' I don't know. I have no clue about how the MPAA handles love scenes when they do ratings. It's very possible that we could see nothing. Who knows?

  101. Re:Logically sounds like a Hoax. by sg3000 · · Score: 1

    "Revenge of the Jedi" was the real title for a while. Kenner (the company who was licensed to make toys), had "Revenge fo the Jedi" on the labels of some of the early stuff. That was before you really knew what the movie was about, but I remember that as a kid, I sent in a million proofs of purchase to get a secret "Revenge of the Jedi" character. Turned out to be Admiral Ackbar, a complete and utter letdown.

    The other guy's right that they used the title "Blue Harvest" for the production titles during filming and scouting locations.

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  102. I'd hoped Lucas could do better by Absolute0 · · Score: 1

    All the previous movies have had somewhat more interesting titles. "The Phantom Menace" "The Empire Strikes Back" "The Return of the Jedi" and of course the all time favorite "Star Wars." I would have hoped for more than "The Rise of the Empire." It just seems somewhat bland in comparsion. Of course, there's no way to be sure this is even the working title, and I'm sure it'll be changed before the film comes to the silver screen.

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  103. try an alternative source by SomeOtherTime · · Score: 1

    here's an opposing view from harry, my personal savior, that points out that TheForce.Net says otherwise. http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/dis play.cgi?id=6716

  104. A good authority.. by Maudib · · Score: 1

    aintitcool.com swears that this is not the working title and they are usually right on the money when it comes to these things. maudib Real men use punchcards.

  105. Lucas will change it anyway by prator · · Score: 1

    If this happens to be the real title, I'm sure Lucas would just change it anyway to flex a little bit of his control.

  106. Re:Quick thoughts... by Nept · · Score: 1

    I like that title...

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  107. Re:Logically sounds like a Hoax. by Col.+Klink+(retired) · · Score: 2
    According to the IMDB, it was not really a last minute decision to change the name:

    The title "Revenge of the Jedi" was leaked early in production, so that pirated merchandise could be easily spotted when the film was released. The official reason for the change was that "...a Jedi would not take revenge". Some authentic pre-release movie posters actually had "Revenge", and are worth a lot of money today.

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  108. Anti-Gungan Racism on Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1


    Come on, fill me in. I thought that Slashdot readers were supposed to be intelligent, compassionate, and open-minded. What is the deal behind all of this racist anti-Gungan sentiment on Slashdot? Comments like "they talk funny" and "they're not intelligent" and "we don't want them around us" are the types of comments that were behind the American civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s. Will Jar-Jar Binks or one of his Gungan brethren make headlines by refusing to give up his bus seat to a human, or by defying public "mores" by sitting down to eat in a predominantly-human diner? Time will tell.

    As an "old Democrat" (read: liberal) it also saddens me that the DNC did not see fit to include a Gungan speaker at their Los Angeles convention. They included speakers of nearly every other race, creed, sex, and sexual orientation .. but no Gungans. Joe Lieberman bravely talked about "knocking down the remaining barriers" but if that is such a priority, then where are the Gungans?

    Diversity is something to be celebrated, not feared. Gungans add color and character to our society. Why is there this persistent mistrust and outright hatred of this race? Have we learned nothing from the persecution and prejudice we've seen over the past century? Gungans are no different from you and I. Well, okay, they are, but still.

  109. The title by The+Dev · · Score: 3

    is unimportant.

    But for the love of God, make this one Rated 'R'!

  110. Open Letter To George Lucas by heymanslowdown · · Score: 1
    Dear George:

    I am writing to you today to discuss something that I know you are very firmly decided upon: Jar Jar.

    Still, I think another appeal is worth the effort; based on my experiences with Episode 1 and the presence of one Jar Jar Binks, I can never be talked into going to see one of your movies again. However, there are a lot of people, most of them at Slashdot, who are still willing to give you another shot at producing a really fun and compelling story. But they will abandon you if you once again sacrifice quality for technical interest.

    Please, George...Mister Lucas...do not simply disregard my sentiments for the sake of single-minded CG accomplishment. Listen to what I say for the sake of your own income and self-esteem.

    Love, heymanslowdown

    P.S. Put a whole lot of Natalie in this one. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

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  111. Revenge by sulli · · Score: 1
    I think "Revenge" was a real title they abandoned at the last minute.

    There was something else before that, with a totally unrelated title - it was clearly disinformation. Anyone remember what it was?

    sulli

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    1. Re:Revenge by RFC959 · · Score: 2

      The fake title (not the "Revenge" stuff to fake out merch pirates) was "Blue Harvest". "Horror beyond your wildest dreams" or something like that was the fake tagline for it. No one really bought it, anyway.

  112. Logically sounds like a Hoax. by Christianfreak · · Score: 3
    I suppose the title could be "Rise of the Empire" but what about the Clone Wars? There's been rumors for months that the next Episode show us what happened there... besides why would Lucas even need to make a the third one if the Empire is going to show up now? I'll believe it when I see it.

    Never knock on Death's door:

    1. Re:Logically sounds like a Hoax. by owillis · · Score: 1
      Don't forget that there was a complete hoax name for Jedi. I can't remember what it was, but I recall that there were hats and jackets made to fool the press...

      The bogus name was "Revenge of the Jedi"
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  113. Brilliant folks at annova by Hairy_Potter · · Score: 1

    The script of the movie is still unknown at this point, but British website ananova.com reports speculation that the film will end with Anakin Skywalker turning to the Dark Side and becoming Darth Vader.

    Like duh, Darth is evil in a new hope (iv), good in ep 1, that leaves 2 for turn to evil and 3 for consolidate evil.

  114. Re:Au contraire! by Nexx · · Score: 1

    100% pure American processed cheese.

    Star Wars is like Shakespeare: everyone loves it, and nobody wants to admit what derivative tripe it is.

    Isn't it great? *laugh*. Seriously, though, the original Star Wars, regardless of its quality, was among the first SF movie to actually become "mainstream". But then, IANversed in popular culture; all my favourite authors and playwrights have been dead for centuries :-)


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  115. not the title by Jae · · Score: 2

    just read over on aint-it-cool-news (yeah yeah, i know) - but they are dispelling the rumor and have backed it up by calling Lucas publicity.

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  116. Re:Whoop D Dooo by talesout · · Score: 1
    I hate the fact that Star Wars fans want to make it out to be "deep & dark" and "epic". Just enjoy the damn movie, it ain't rocket science...

    Finally someone talking some sense. I for one am a huge, HUGE Star Wars fan. But I have to say that the original films appeared 'dark and epic' to us when we were young-uns, but when we watch it now it isn't that dark and epic at all. It is a good story, maybe even a great story, but it isn't the be-all, end-all that some people make it out to be.

    I love Star Wars, but I'm getting sick and tired of the 'it's a affront to fans' attitude that has transpired since the previous movie (episode I). I personally liked episode 1. I didn't see it as a tragic piece of crap like everyone seems to be saying. If you watched it once, you missed a lot of important crap. How many times have you watched the original three? And you are expecting to get the same feeling from watching a movie once as you did from watching three movies for 20 years over and over and over...?

    Please, try to keep your perspective. Episode I was not bad as movies go now, and it wasn't bad for another Star Wars movie either. Don't pay attention to the media hype about it (as nothing short of a movie four hundred times better than any human is capable of pulling off could live up to that) and you won't be nearly as disappointed.
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  117. -1, Redundant , I'm sure by Ravagin · · Score: 1
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  118. Oddly Uninspiring by StoryMan · · Score: 2

    I dunno. But after 23+ years of living with Star Wars, you'd think Lucas could come up with something a little less obvious and a little more inspiring.

    Me, I thought "Balance of the Force" was a great title but, no, that got nixed ...

  119. The Slashdot rumour mill by FauxPasIII · · Score: 1

    I have 2 completely vaporous rumours on the page for today, do I hear three ? Two implausible rumours going ONCE, TWICE....

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  120. Quick thoughts... by InfinityWpi · · Score: 1

    Okay, first off, it's just a working title... but then, that's what they said last time.

    Second... hey, it's better than "The Phantom Menace".

    Third... hrm. "The Phantom Menace," "The Rise of the Empire," something, "A New Hope," "The Empire Strikes Back," and "The Return of the Jedi"... hrm. It's going to be hard to find a title for the third movie that fits in there. "The Death of The Dream", maybe? Or is that for X-Men III?

  121. Re:Whoop D Dooo by MrEd · · Score: 1

    Dude, the first three (with the possible exception of The Empire Strikes Back) were awful films, hardly 'epics'. The reason I love them is because a) they were the first of their kind, and b) I grew up watching them. There's no way Lucas can lever those two merits this time around. His lukewarm directing, greedy marketing, and lousy scriptwriting is showing through in style.

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  122. Don't believe it! by meckardt · · Score: 2

    Some of you may remember one of the rumors going around prior the release of Episode VI: a lot of us really thought that VI would be called Revenge of the Jedi. Don't know if this was leaked by Lucas or not, but I don't remember him deneying it. Always remember, GL has his own agenda.


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  123. STAR WARS II: Electric Boogaloo by hamburger+lady · · Score: 2

    Natalie Portman in parachute pants, hell yeah.

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  124. Re:Whoop D Dooo by owillis · · Score: 1

    I think its a misnomer to call the original 3 "epic". The Star Wars trilogy is nothing more than a highly entertaining summer "popcorn" movie. I hate the fact that Star Wars fans want to make it out to be "deep & dark" and "epic". Just enjoy the damn movie, it ain't rocket science...
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  125. Re:Real imaginitive by cwebster · · Score: 1

    a more apropriate title for the /. crowd would be

    Star Wars 2: Anakin, Amidala, and plenty of hot grits

  126. Does it matter? by Jimhotep · · Score: 1

    He could call it "The Sound of Music", people will still line up around the block to see it.

  127. Au contraire! by TheDullBlade · · Score: 2

    I think people forget just how hokey the original three were.

    Episode I was just following in the footsteps of the original trilogy. Did anyone else notice when Obi-Wan whacks a robot with his lightsabre, and it falls over? That's classic Star Wars cheese, right up there with "Two figh-ters a-gainst a Star De-stroyer?" ("Worst delivery ever.") and the Hallowe'en masks in the Mos Eisley cantina.

    100% pure American processed cheese.

    Star Wars is like Shakespeare: everyone loves it, and nobody wants to admit what derivative tripe it is.

    It is fun, though. Kind of like Futurama, with a straight face. And the "used universe" set building philosophy is something that modern sci-fi could use a refresher-course in.

    I've drifted, but my point was, try not to compare your fresh vision of the new Star Wars films with your nostalgia-fogged vision of the old ones, nothing can live up to that.

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  128. Episode 2: The Rise of the Empire by ackthpt · · Score: 5

    Two things:

    Episode 2: Duh, of course. You were expecting Episode 1.01 Rev A?

    The Rise of the Empire Duh, again.

    You were maybe expecting:

    The Empire That Sank Into The Swamp. So, They Built A Second One. That Sank Into The Swamp. So They Built A Third One. That Burned Down, Fell Over, Then Sank Into The Swamp. But The Fourth One Stayed Up. An' That's What Your Gonna Get, Palpatine -- The Strongest Empire In The Universe.

    I dunno.. I kinda think it's been done before. Also, it'll be a bitch to get on the marquee.

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    1. Re:Episode 2: The Rise of the Empire by piku · · Score: 1

      Monty Python rules :P

  129. "Rise of the Empire"? Sounds "sex-yew-uhl" by rho · · Score: 2

    After all, Anakin will eventually have to, uhm... do the Queen, so...

    *SMACK* Okay, I deserved that...

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  130. this is an *old* rumor by abde · · Score: 4


    The title, "Rise of the Empire" has been around for over a year, according to TheForce.Net. They point out two older articles discussing it: [1] , [2]
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  131. Makes sense by EvlG · · Score: 2

    I think this is probably NOT the real title, but it is pretty close.

    Look for this film to be dark - Lucas said years ago, when he was announcing that work was to begin on the prequels, that he intends the 1st to be kind of light harted and ending up-beat (TPM was just that, as was A New Hope). The second would be dark and end sort of down, just like Empire Strikes Back was. And then, in the 3rd, the good would win out and have a major victory.

    Look for the empire to grow in episode 2, and for Anakin to fall to the dark side. Thus, the title makes sense, even if it isn't the absolute final title.

  132. Episode 2 by dr_eaerth · · Score: 1

    The Rise of Leo DiCaprio

  133. Bah! by PopeAlien · · Score: 1

    Working Title being the key phrase.. Even if this is accurate, A working title is pretty much meaningless.. I worked on a horrible film that was called "Eaters of the Dead".. It was released as "The 13th Warrior", The Nintendo "Dolphin" is now rumoured to be called the "Starbox", and has anyone played with the Sega "Katana" lately?

  134. Whoop D Dooo by Ryandav · · Score: 2

    I'm sure I'm not the only one that doesn't really care what on earth they call it...

    After the last travesty against star wars fans, what makes you think the next one will be even less of an over-commercialized fub. It doesn't how matter how much we all want another epic like the original 3, the stuff he's going to be making is _not_ it...

    This is not flamebait, but a genuine criticism.

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  135. A grainof salt... by dbthomas · · Score: 1
    So is this similar to when the title "Revenge of the Jedi" got leaked in '83? I thought so.

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  136. Real imaginitive by mr.ska · · Score: 2
    Why didn't they just call it:

    Star Wars Episode 2: Aidan Skywalker Becomes More Evil And Shags Princess Amidala Rotten

    "Phantom Menace" had at least a semi-cool mysterious ring to it.

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  137. Phew! What a relief. by dmccarty · · Score: 4

    I had thought the name was going to be Episode 2: The Rise of Jar Jar Binks.
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  138. Shakespeare == "derivative tripe"? by paranoid.android · · Score: 1

    I know quite a few English professors who would disagree with you.

    Shakespeare is the standard that all tripe is derived from :-P

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  139. See the preview! (sorta) by laborit · · Score: 2

    In case you missed it in the theatres, go to theforce.net and see the episode II trailer! But if you do, make sure you also go to the FAQ...

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  140. wonder why it's called a working title... by Capt+Dan · · Score: 2

    1) A working title is not necessary the final title at all. It's just something the movie people use to give some kind of reference to the movie. This way they don't have to keep saying "that lucas film with the spaceships and that slug guy and the fuzzy little bears" all the time. They could call it "Fred" if they wanted. It's just to make their lives a little easier.

    2) "Rise of The Empire" is no worse a title than "The Empire Strikes Back" or "Return of the Jedi"

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  141. Re:SW2:RotE by SuperCujo · · Score: 1

    But Natalie Portman and the word 'Rise' go together quite well...

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  142. Seems Unlikely That This Is The Title... by GeekLife.com · · Score: 2

    These rumors aren't new at all. In fact, they surfaced repeatedly a long, long time ago. (reported on The Force.net May 6, 1999 here and August 8, 1999 here...)
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  143. Why was this ever put up? by WyldOne · · Score: 1

    I thought slashdot was for REAL facts not just some rumors of facts. Many comments were generated on something that is just fluff. If I wanted to see this rumor I could have gone to one of the e-fanzines.

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  144. Should be the demise of Jar Jar, not rise by MattW · · Score: 1

    Star Wars, episode 2: the Demise of Jar Jar Binks subtitling would read: "Now those of us over 10 can go see Star Wars movies again with peace of mind intact."

  145. I don't get it by frankie · · Score: 1

    Why is everyone getting so worked up just to discuss the RUMOR of a possible TITLE? And it's almost certainly false? And it doesn't reveal anything about the plot that we didn't already know? And the movie itself is NOT likely to be great, but merely LESS MEDIOCRE than Episode 1? Is this really worth discussing?

    Of course, here I am posting about the damn thing.

  146. Another possible reason for the change... by GORDOOM · · Score: 1
    Actually, if I understand, the real reason why the title was changed was because there were two movies coming out within a year of each other, each with similar titles. (For the record, the two were "Star Wars Episode VI: Revenge of the Jedi," released in 1983, and "Star Trek II: The Vengeance of Khan," released in 1982.) Because of the similarity in titles, it was decided (separately, I think) to change both names: Star Wars Episode VI became "Return of the Jedi" and Star Trek II became "The Wrath of Khan."

    (I could be wrong, mind you...)

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  147. May never know now by onShore_Jake · · Score: 1

    Well, now we may never really know. I would not be supprised if GL would change it noe even if that was going to be the name.

  148. already excited about Star Wars II by wuice · · Score: 1

    Mark my words, every whiny slashdotter who camped outside to get Episode I tickets (while rehearsing their "I'm disappointed and outraged" speeches) who now decries the phantom menace and sneers at people who are still Star Wars fans, whether on /. or off, will be camping outside the theater when this movie comes out.