There was once a common practice of forcing defendants to testify, and adding more charges if they denied guilt and then were found guilty anyways. The Fifth Amendment protects against that practice, and only that practice.
Until the Miranda Right was acknowledged it was common practice to give witnesses as well as suspects the third degree, which widely ignored the main focus of the 5th amendment.
We'll get a confession out of you if we have to beat it out of you.
Though as I see it, if the reporter says nothing to incriminate him/herself the Fifth is being respected in technical interpretation. If the reporter does say something which may lead to charges (such as conspiracy to commit espionage) the spirit of the Fifth is being denied.
Microsoft doesn't own the Nokia devices division yet. How can people post stuff like this - it has to go through some regulatory reviews and will close in several months. Not today.
They already owned enough of Nokia and pumped enough money into Nokia to own more. The pity is the camera is all the phone has going for it. I wouldn't buy one, even if that were the off-the-shelf price, with no contract.
As it is, I'm firmly in the Pre-Paid camp, so I look at phone prices without the consideration of a 2-year-swindle.
BMI is a guideline, but it's a poorly applied one. The scale is designed for comparing nursing home patients who are completely sedentary. If you walk a couple miles a day you're officially too active for BMI to make much sense.
I have people trying to argue with me all the time, regarding how much BS the BMI calculation is when they are an NFL nose tackle, capable of benching 500 lbs, but the numbers can't distinguish them from a fanboi who dines on Cheetos and Pepsi morning, noon and night.
Total agreement, that's why Aerobic activity is included with BMI for a valid measure.
even with 200+ miles on a bike a week I won't go below that.
Math doesn't argue, you're taking in what you burn in Calories. You are not keeping that weight on by inhaling too much air.
When I rode a road bike I was always around 165. Now I'm about 190, but don't get that level of aerobic workout anymore. But I remember well how much I ate and how I went to bed hungry so I wouldn't be towing a 5 extra pounds of lard up some of the California hills.
Your claim as US service personnel on/. sets off real or imaginary Troll Klaxons among the readership. Keep in mind, this is situation normal for/.
I work with and have worked with US service personnel, one of our current admins is Reserve, but was in fire control support, two tours in Iraq. I'm sure he's thinking the same things.
No kidding. I'm thinking that the majority of people live, breed and die within a few hundred miles of where they were born and this goes on generation after generation. One would expect a certain homogeneity in the range of genes within that population.
I live 2500+ miles from where I was born and some of my best enemies are humans.
My dad likes guns, but that doesn't mean that he should engage in stupid practices with it or is any less dead if something happens as a result.
Died doing something somebody loved, is something people say when the consequences of their own stupidity led to their own demise. I've never heard somebody saying that about a book lover who died reading a book. The main reason being that there's no point, you don't need to rationalize the death.
I think it's infinitely preferable to dying from something you aren't enjoying - being eaten by a shark, crushed by a python, smushed beneath the vending machine which is tenaciously holding onto your bag of chips and only seems to need a nudge, choking on a mouthful of cockroaches, shot while trying to escape East Berlin so some jerk can get a medal for stopping you, etc.
Godfearing Christians are smitten by God and not by Climate Change.
Atheists are smote by natural phenomenon, often heavily influenced by deists use of petrol burning vehicles on their way to their temple of choice on their holy observances.
and has nothing to do with how many side trips I make to electronics parts stores on Sundays
... but while the ACLU pursues matters through leveraging law, the NRA advocates remedying government amok with a more pointed (or hollow pointed) approach.
There's a big difference between advocating and pursuing.
I continue to maintain that the position that the best way to protect your rights is BEFORE you get pushed to the point where you have to break out the arms caches. I know there are those who have wet dreams about being the backwoods guerilla patriots against the tank-and-drone forces of an overbearing US Government, but I'm not one of them. I'd rather order pizza delivery, pick up the UPS package with the latest electronic toy in it, and play with it, thanks to those who pursued instead of just advocating.
Talk, as they say, is cheap.
The NRA has made a very long and vocal habit of defending the rights of everyone to have their guns. Apparently trying to put a good scare into creeping government control of any and every other aspect of life hasn't deserved anything like Charlton Heston waving his gun around after the Columbine shootings and claiming they could have it when they pried it from his cold, dead hands.
Really, I think we're seeing the true colors here. The 2nd Amendment is really about collecting a lot of pointy bang-sticks.
"... but while the ACLU pursues matters through leveraging law, the NRA advocates remedying government amok with a more pointed (or hollow pointed) approach."
Absolute nonsense. The NRA is the biggest and richest lobbying organization in the United States. They fully advocate having and following reasonable laws.
It is true that many members of the NRA would have us use force against a government run amok, but it is also true that nearly all of them view that as an absolute last resort. Not the first, as you imply.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants - Thomas Jefferson.
Hmm... I have a creeping feeling the NSA has already introduced a vulnerability into the rot13! If you click on encrypt twice the original contents are revealed!
Insidious!
Hit it a third time and we're all secure again! Quick!
The problem I have with the NRA and 2nd Amendment people who totally buy into this Militia thing is this: Who is calling the... ahem... shots? Who is in command of these militias? By what authority?
Anyone who thinks the United States is civilised, hold onto your hats, if it did come down to militias you better believe there will be score settling and such which would make the Middle East look like a controlled situation in comparison.
The people who drew the colonists together were well off and educated. Who would be doing that these days? Just the implication of that should scare the heck out of any rational citizen.
but while the ACLU pursues matters through leveraging law, the NRA advocates remedying government amok with a more pointed (or hollow pointed) approach.
The NRA is a citizen funded organization that takes on legal issues through legislation and litigation. I haven't seen any evidence that backs up your assertion the NRA advocates for violent resolution of issues.
If the NRA does not use it's constitutional right to seek redress in this matter, I really and forced to wonder exactly what would the government need to be doing for them to actually dust off their rifles and defend their liberties. This isn't about gun owner rights, its about the government running amok.
This isn't the first time the US government has run amok. I keep having this feeling the 2nd amendment defence is all about collecting toys, collectors items, things to shoot Stop signs with, etc. and has nothing to do with confronting an unjust government.
Well, the NRA is there to keep the 2nd amendment strong. The ACLU is there to keep the first 10 amendments strong. It's really like the NRA focuses on a subset of the ACLU.
Not sure who's around to support the 26th amendment... kids these days probably wouldn't notice if it changed.
Don't you find it fascinating the one group favoring arming itself to the teeth for these sort of instances.. are following a peaceful course, much as the ACLU advocates?
I'm beginning to suspect the whole "right of the people to keep and bear arms" has been a scam all along.
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There was once a common practice of forcing defendants to testify, and adding more charges if they denied guilt and then were found guilty anyways. The Fifth Amendment protects against that practice, and only that practice.
Until the Miranda Right was acknowledged it was common practice to give witnesses as well as suspects the third degree, which widely ignored the main focus of the 5th amendment.
We'll get a confession out of you if we have to beat it out of you.
Though as I see it, if the reporter says nothing to incriminate him/herself the Fifth is being respected in technical interpretation. If the reporter does say something which may lead to charges (such as conspiracy to commit espionage) the spirit of the Fifth is being denied.
Microsoft doesn't own the Nokia devices division yet. How can people post stuff like this - it has to go through some regulatory reviews and will close in several months. Not today.
They already owned enough of Nokia and pumped enough money into Nokia to own more. The pity is the camera is all the phone has going for it. I wouldn't buy one, even if that were the off-the-shelf price, with no contract.
As it is, I'm firmly in the Pre-Paid camp, so I look at phone prices without the consideration of a 2-year-swindle.
BMI is a guideline, but it's a poorly applied one. The scale is designed for comparing nursing home patients who are completely sedentary. If you walk a couple miles a day you're officially too active for BMI to make much sense.
I have people trying to argue with me all the time, regarding how much BS the BMI calculation is when they are an NFL nose tackle, capable of benching 500 lbs, but the numbers can't distinguish them from a fanboi who dines on Cheetos and Pepsi morning, noon and night.
Total agreement, that's why Aerobic activity is included with BMI for a valid measure.
even with 200+ miles on a bike a week I won't go below that.
Math doesn't argue, you're taking in what you burn in Calories. You are not keeping that weight on by inhaling too much air.
When I rode a road bike I was always around 165. Now I'm about 190, but don't get that level of aerobic workout anymore. But I remember well how much I ate and how I went to bed hungry so I wouldn't be towing a 5 extra pounds of lard up some of the California hills.
I'm not fat. I'm just more efficient at extracting nutrients than you.
Therefore you should eat less as your very efficient metabolism means you waste less
Good for you.
I have one of those darn inefficient metabolisms and eat like a chowhound without gaining a pound.
are you going to do anything with that 50lb sack of sugar?
lesson?
don't eat junk food. crap like soda acidifies your stomach more than it needs to and kills good bacteria
I'd suggest eating more beans and lentils, but we've already argued about global warming today.
I decide how much to eat and when, thus maintaining a healthy BMI and I get out and exercise frequently.
BTW it's Friday, time for my customary run to the beer fridge.
How is this a troll?
Your claim as US service personnel on /. sets off real or imaginary Troll Klaxons among the readership. Keep in mind, this is situation normal for /.
I work with and have worked with US service personnel, one of our current admins is Reserve, but was in fire control support, two tours in Iraq. I'm sure he's thinking the same things.
No kidding. I'm thinking that the majority of people live, breed and die within a few hundred miles of where they were born and this goes on generation after generation. One would expect a certain homogeneity in the range of genes within that population.
I live 2500+ miles from where I was born and some of my best enemies are humans.
This is why I don't have friends - I'm not human.
What are you doing out?!? Get back in your cage!
How dare you insult my friends by comparing them to me!
I wouldn't have anyone like myself as a friend.
Sharkskin jackets with lasers - Contact DoD.
Human-caused changes often cause extreme events...
That's because we're such Extreme creatures. F'rinstance:
Extreme weather is what we crave.
My dad likes guns, but that doesn't mean that he should engage in stupid practices with it or is any less dead if something happens as a result.
Died doing something somebody loved, is something people say when the consequences of their own stupidity led to their own demise. I've never heard somebody saying that about a book lover who died reading a book. The main reason being that there's no point, you don't need to rationalize the death.
I think it's infinitely preferable to dying from something you aren't enjoying - being eaten by a shark, crushed by a python, smushed beneath the vending machine which is tenaciously holding onto your bag of chips and only seems to need a nudge, choking on a mouthful of cockroaches, shot while trying to escape East Berlin so some jerk can get a medal for stopping you, etc.
Godfearing Christians are smitten by God and not by Climate Change.
Atheists are smote by natural phenomenon, often heavily influenced by deists use of petrol burning vehicles on their way to their temple of choice on their holy observances.
and has nothing to do with how many side trips I make to electronics parts stores on Sundays
I wonder when the evil genius of the week is moving in down there?
Ahem. This is where Godzilla lives.
Holy hell that's insane. What a way to go :(
Ah, but he died doing something he enjoyed. Isn't that the dream of every man?
Here Lies Ackthpt, Fully Debugged At Last
There's a big difference between advocating and pursuing.
I continue to maintain that the position that the best way to protect your rights is BEFORE you get pushed to the point where you have to break out the arms caches. I know there are those who have wet dreams about being the backwoods guerilla patriots against the tank-and-drone forces of an overbearing US Government, but I'm not one of them. I'd rather order pizza delivery, pick up the UPS package with the latest electronic toy in it, and play with it, thanks to those who pursued instead of just advocating.
Talk, as they say, is cheap.
The NRA has made a very long and vocal habit of defending the rights of everyone to have their guns. Apparently trying to put a good scare into creeping government control of any and every other aspect of life hasn't deserved anything like Charlton Heston waving his gun around after the Columbine shootings and claiming they could have it when they pried it from his cold, dead hands.
Really, I think we're seeing the true colors here. The 2nd Amendment is really about collecting a lot of pointy bang-sticks.
"... but while the ACLU pursues matters through leveraging law, the NRA advocates remedying government amok with a more pointed (or hollow pointed) approach."
Absolute nonsense. The NRA is the biggest and richest lobbying organization in the United States. They fully advocate having and following reasonable laws.
It is true that many members of the NRA would have us use force against a government run amok, but it is also true that nearly all of them view that as an absolute last resort. Not the first, as you imply.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants - Thomas Jefferson.
Hmm... I have a creeping feeling the NSA has already introduced a vulnerability into the rot13! If you click on encrypt twice the original contents are revealed!
Insidious!
Hit it a third time and we're all secure again! Quick!
The problem I have with the NRA and 2nd Amendment people who totally buy into this Militia thing is this: Who is calling the ... ahem ... shots? Who is in command of these militias? By what authority?
Anyone who thinks the United States is civilised, hold onto your hats, if it did come down to militias you better believe there will be score settling and such which would make the Middle East look like a controlled situation in comparison.
The people who drew the colonists together were well off and educated. Who would be doing that these days? Just the implication of that should scare the heck out of any rational citizen.
but while the ACLU pursues matters through leveraging law, the NRA advocates remedying government amok with a more pointed (or hollow pointed) approach.
The NRA is a citizen funded organization that takes on legal issues through legislation and litigation. I haven't seen any evidence that backs up your assertion the NRA advocates for violent resolution of issues.
If the NRA does not use it's constitutional right to seek redress in this matter, I really and forced to wonder exactly what would the government need to be doing for them to actually dust off their rifles and defend their liberties. This isn't about gun owner rights, its about the government running amok.
This isn't the first time the US government has run amok. I keep having this feeling the 2nd amendment defence is all about collecting toys, collectors items, things to shoot Stop signs with, etc. and has nothing to do with confronting an unjust government.
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Well, the NRA is there to keep the 2nd amendment strong. The ACLU is there to keep the first 10 amendments strong. It's really like the NRA focuses on a subset of the ACLU.
Not sure who's around to support the 26th amendment... kids these days probably wouldn't notice if it changed.
Don't you find it fascinating the one group favoring arming itself to the teeth for these sort of instances .. are following a peaceful course, much as the ACLU advocates?
I'm beginning to suspect the whole "right of the people to keep and bear arms" has been a scam all along.
I need people to just let me get things done as Guest.