I believe the original poster is referring to the fact that the poisonous part of BVO is the Bromine, and the bromine additive is to make the vegetable oil (which provides the flavor, color, and/or texture) the same density as water... so that the oil won't eventually migrate to the top of your soda.
The original poster then is probably referring to the fact that if a way of mixing oil and water is found, we can then get rid of the bromine and not poison ourselves when drinking Mt. Dew.
However, since Soda is basically CO2 dissolved in water, it makes it kind of hard to create degassed soda q=. So in effect, whatever the outcome this research is, it would not change the status of brominated veggie oil in our favorite soft drinks.
I have been waiting for this for ages. I first read the paper by Backhaus and Swift (and here is a more recent one) four years ago, and whichever site that directed my attention to that "promised" commercialization in the near future. Not exactly swift in high tech time, but still very much welcomed.
Too bad I just bought a fridge for my dorm room. )=
As anyone with any bit of background in Statistical mechanics can tell you, energy is the same thing as temperature. Foundamental temperatures that condense matter (especially soft condense matter) theorists work with are almost always given in energy units (eV, ergs, or joules) and cosmologists speak of background radiation of 0.3 kelvin. All that differs energy from the kelvin scale is a proportional constant (Boltzman's constant).
erghhh... hit me if I am blatantly off, but the famed internet explorer program is named IEXPLORE.EXE. The explorer.exe you refer to is the Windows explorer, or otherwise known as the one and only thing that holds the monstrosity together (the GUI, the Windows "shell" as they called it in system.ini). And if I remember correctly, that has been there since the Windows 95 days, when they added this thing called "Explore your computer"/"Windows Explorer" to the system.
I think with W2K, it depends lots on what your computer is aimed for doing. Right now my 192Mb 600MHz ThinkPad died to Daemon, I am running W2K on a 600MHz 64Mb Dell Inspiron, and have only occasional trouble with slowness. Right now my memory usages are (in order, the top five):
phoenix.exe with 16208k
IEXPLORE.exe with 11320k
wmplayer.exe with 4892k
explorer.exe with 3744k
taskmgr.exe with 2336k (now why would taskmgr take that much memory is beyond me)
The only time I can remember this machine being painfully slow is when I wake it up every morning from hibernation, when it tries to spin up, and load everything into memory from disk again.
However, I do use to run a 166Mhz 64Mb (later 96Mb) Desktop with Windows 2000 at home. My theory is that Microsoft is absolutely correct in the minimum requirements for running the OS. But when they say minimum, they mean OS only. Nothing else. Once you start tagging on stuff like AOL, Microsoft Office, Corel Draw, etc, and try to run them at the same time, the system likes to just hang and ignore you. Ever since I have gotten my sisters hooked on TeX for word processing, and that really improved the memory usage on the desktop system at home.
So my suggestion is simple. Since you have a close to minimum machine, you should try to only run close to minimum apps. My friend ran Mandrake 8 on his 233Mhz 192Mb ran desktop. And Mozilla slows down X considerably in the pre-1 releases. (It doesn't help with his habit of hosting a NFS search engine, listening to music, browsing the web, while compiling the kernel at the same time q= ). The important thing is choice. You can choose to run simple and memory non-extensive programs in Linux, you also can choose to do so in Windows 2000, for example, you can use Mozilla or lynx in Windows if you choose (and save 10M ram from IEXPLORE), and Microsoft Office has always been less than necessary, and I am sure you can find another Office implementation with a much smaller footprint (or just use TeX like we normal people do q= )
I scanned the whole site. There's no mention of such a survey on the site. I don't actually think the survey is conducted by antivirus-china.org.cn/
However, I did find something rather amusing:
On the website, when ever they found a new virus appearing in China, they list a newsreport saying:
The virus ZZZ now invades China.
And judging by the post dates, the great firewall is actually quite nice. Moreover, they have the best vius protection/know how tutorial I've ever seen on any website, and admittedly, for a Chinese speaker, the way they describe syptoms and methods of removal for individual viruses are much more friendly then even synmantec.
Thanks to all who contributed useful comments. I am currently in the process of looking for a spare harddrive since the computer still won't boot with the HDD pulled out, which means that I might need to find some time to go home, dig up my desktop, and get a different partition scheme on the harddrive. Right now I am hoping that borrowing the HDD from some windows user would allow me to boot somehow and update the bios.
There's still one question:
I searched google groups and couldn't find the answer, because I heard that newer versions of BIOS might not be better in this case: i.e. IBM might have reintroduced the BIOS bug. If anyone has an X20 working, can they tell me which version BIOS to get? (I can always try them all... {= ).
Regarding to some questions posted:
If you'd followed the links, you would have realized that my primary goal WAS to install Debian. And FreeBSD is just a sidetrack since I will need to flush my system anyway. There's some really bad RPM incongruencies on my computer when it was running mandrake, and many things won't run properly.
And then there's the question as to why would I need a high speed internet to update my computer. There's nothing preventing me from getting connected: except for an ISP. I don't plan to get service from an ISP and pay 30 dollars for the two months I will be at home to use dialup. My parents run American Online, there's no way I can tap into that resource. Furthermore, there's the problem with those Winmodems. In short, without a lan connection, I have no connection at all.
Just a quick question, since you are the only one here I think that actually managed to get in running on the same model as my machine.
Can you tell me which version BIOS you are running currently? Since rumour has it some of the later BIOS upgrades in the T and X series in effect put the bug back in.
Actually, I did find that among the BSD newsgroups, but I am afraid to say that it didn't work. Even with the HDD removed, the system stalls before loading the BIOS. I am thinking maybe IBM included a no-harddrive = suspend default? {=
Which after thinking about it, doesn't sound like much nonsense, especially on the TP X series, which doesn't have a default floppy...
Lycos quietly dropped its support of the tag in 1998, and newer search engines such as Google and FAST never added support at all.
What got you the good list is not meta keywords at all. It is more likely that every pr0n site on the planet is linked to three dozen others, and that boosts the google rating.
On that note, wonder if we can implement traveling sales person by traversing a set of given pr0n sites using only the links provided on the site....
W -- Sometimes I have a sig. Sometimes I don't. This is one of those times I don... doh!
Wondering about that too... but read on. He does have a point. The stress and time he is referring to is not typing just typing the tag, but coming up with a tag that will attract attention without having to use every possibly synonym of pr0n you can think of.
It's always been a confusing issue for site owners. Should I use commas between words in the tag or not? How many times can I repeat a word on the page without getting banned? If I don't list a term in the tag, does that mean my page won't show up?
More importantly, is that hardly anyone care anymore about the meta tags:
"The meta keywords value is just one of many factors in our ranking equation, and
we've never given too much weight to it. That said, we will continue to use it as long as our relevance modeling shows that it adds value," said Ken Norton, director of product marketing for Inktomi's web search division.
The more I think about it, the more the point shows. For our personal web pages, do we really care that it will pop up in Altavista in the top 10? I wouldn't think my machine can handle the traffic if it did.
As for refreshing pages that some brought up... the article seems to be more concerned about the meta keyword tag, which I see as an unnecessary evil when creating webpages. (Comm'on, do you really need more content in the meta keywords than in what the audience is actually going to read?) Plus, with Google becoming the tool of many a common geek/geek-wannabe's, and which does not use the meta keywords for ranking sites, what's the point? I dropped the meta keywords from my site a few months back, and the rankings didn't drop in any search engine I would use. And I did gain about 4 more kilobytes of space on my harddrive... (don't diss my kilobytes,yo q= ).
And come to think about it, I am pretty sure the reason that pr0n sites still uses meta keywords is that the dedicated searching engines of the genus pr0n-finder still uses it. Anyone care to verify that?
W
-- So my smileys are the wrong way around, wanna take it outside?
Huh? I sense a serious tone of accusation there. What's with American's blaming all espionage in which the Chinese received a benefit to potential Taiwanese Spies aligned with Motherland. I just love the gross generalization people make when treating different ethnicities. (Did I just contradict myself, fine, I have multitudes.)
I work with a lot of Taiwanese engineers. They don't consider forwarding stolen information to China to be stealing. They all believe that helping the Motherland is their duty.
So how many Engineers from Taiwan do you know? And have you conducted a formal poll among them to determine that none of them consider such actions as stealing?
It's funny that the U.S. is so vociferous about protecting Taiwan when the Taiwanese are already helping China out. Once Taiwan is folded back in to China, all those fancy weapons and huge investments in Taiwanese industry will benefit their biggest enemy.
Cue me in on what you mean by fancy weapons and huge investments in Taiwanese industry? As far as I can recall, China has sueecessfully blocked US consent to sell weapon systems to Taiwan repeatedly. Moreover, the American government's foreign policy has nothing to do whatsoever with foreign investments. We are a capitalist country; our industries invest in places where they see they can make the most profits. Be it Nike sweatshops in SE asia or the upcoming chip fab plant of Intel
in China, the companies make their own decisions.
Bringing this back to the point of Chinese development of Dragon Chip. Personally, I don't really think the Chinese will willingly open-source their code, but cue me in if I am wrong, I do believe they have some sort of licensing law. There's already a few linux distros made in that area, and they all follow the GPL, but whether that's out of courtesy or law abiding, I don't know. Not to be a broken record, but techinically the Chinese Government is another country, and they can make their own laws about this thing. With the source code freely available, it ain't exactly stealing. Plus the fact that much US policy in IP rights and such are driven by coorporate lobbying...
So... yo, everybody chip in! We are gonna lobby the congress into having China obey GPL. -mischievous grin-.
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I believe the original poster is referring to the fact that the poisonous part of BVO is the Bromine, and the bromine additive is to make the vegetable oil (which provides the flavor, color, and/or texture) the same density as water... so that the oil won't eventually migrate to the top of your soda.
The original poster then is probably referring to the fact that if a way of mixing oil and water is found, we can then get rid of the bromine and not poison ourselves when drinking Mt. Dew.
However, since Soda is basically CO2 dissolved in water, it makes it kind of hard to create degassed soda q=. So in effect, whatever the outcome this research is, it would not change the status of brominated veggie oil in our favorite soft drinks.
Werd Smiler
WRONG!!!
Decibels are, by definition of "bels", on a LOG scale. It is based on Log 10:
dB = Log( I/I_0) * 10
where I is the Absolute Intensity in power/area, and I_0 a constant, which for sound is at 10^-12 Watt/Meter^2 (I think, or is it -10?)
So a db different of 53 translates to
10^(53/10) = 10^(5.3) which is approximately equal to 20 thousand times more intense.
Werd
I have been waiting for this for ages. I first read the paper by Backhaus and Swift (and here is a more recent one) four years ago, and whichever site that directed my attention to that "promised" commercialization in the near future. Not exactly swift in high tech time, but still very much welcomed.
Too bad I just bought a fridge for my dorm room. )=
Werd
As anyone with any bit of background in Statistical mechanics can tell you, energy is the same thing as temperature. Foundamental temperatures that condense matter (especially soft condense matter) theorists work with are almost always given in energy units (eV, ergs, or joules) and cosmologists speak of background radiation of 0.3 kelvin. All that differs energy from the kelvin scale is a proportional constant (Boltzman's constant).
werd
erghhh... hit me if I am blatantly off, but the famed internet explorer program is named IEXPLORE.EXE. The explorer.exe you refer to is the Windows explorer, or otherwise known as the one and only thing that holds the monstrosity together (the GUI, the Windows "shell" as they called it in system.ini). And if I remember correctly, that has been there since the Windows 95 days, when they added this thing called "Explore your computer"/"Windows Explorer" to the system.
I think with W2K, it depends lots on what your computer is aimed for doing. Right now my 192Mb 600MHz ThinkPad died to Daemon, I am running W2K on a 600MHz 64Mb Dell Inspiron, and have only occasional trouble with slowness. Right now my memory usages are (in order, the top five):
phoenix.exe with 16208k
IEXPLORE.exe with 11320k
wmplayer.exe with 4892k
explorer.exe with 3744k
taskmgr.exe with 2336k
(now why would taskmgr take that much memory is beyond me)
The only time I can remember this machine being painfully slow is when I wake it up every morning from hibernation, when it tries to spin up, and load everything into memory from disk again.
However, I do use to run a 166Mhz 64Mb (later 96Mb) Desktop with Windows 2000 at home. My theory is that Microsoft is absolutely correct in the minimum requirements for running the OS. But when they say minimum, they mean OS only. Nothing else. Once you start tagging on stuff like AOL, Microsoft Office, Corel Draw, etc, and try to run them at the same time, the system likes to just hang and ignore you. Ever since I have gotten my sisters hooked on TeX for word processing, and that really improved the memory usage on the desktop system at home.
So my suggestion is simple. Since you have a close to minimum machine, you should try to only run close to minimum apps. My friend ran Mandrake 8 on his 233Mhz 192Mb ran desktop. And Mozilla slows down X considerably in the pre-1 releases. (It doesn't help with his habit of hosting a NFS search engine, listening to music, browsing the web, while compiling the kernel at the same time q= ). The important thing is choice. You can choose to run simple and memory non-extensive programs in Linux, you also can choose to do so in Windows 2000, for example, you can use Mozilla or lynx in Windows if you choose (and save 10M ram from IEXPLORE), and Microsoft Office has always been less than necessary, and I am sure you can find another Office implementation with a much smaller footprint (or just use TeX like we normal people do q= )
W
--
Werd Smiler
I scanned the whole site. There's no mention of such a survey on the site. I don't actually think the survey is conducted by antivirus-china.org.cn/
However, I did find something rather amusing:
On the website, when ever they found a new virus appearing in China, they list a newsreport saying:
The virus ZZZ now invades China.
And judging by the post dates, the great firewall is actually quite nice. Moreover, they have the best vius protection/know how tutorial I've ever seen on any website, and admittedly, for a Chinese speaker, the way they describe syptoms and methods of removal for individual viruses are much more friendly then even synmantec.
W
Thanks to all who contributed useful comments. I am currently in the process of looking for a spare harddrive since the computer still won't boot with the HDD pulled out, which means that I might need to find some time to go home, dig up my desktop, and get a different partition scheme on the harddrive. Right now I am hoping that borrowing the HDD from some windows user would allow me to boot somehow and update the bios.
There's still one question:
I searched google groups and couldn't find the answer, because I heard that newer versions of BIOS might not be better in this case: i.e. IBM might have reintroduced the BIOS bug. If anyone has an X20 working, can they tell me which version BIOS to get? (I can always try them all... {= ).
Regarding to some questions posted:
If you'd followed the links, you would have realized that my primary goal WAS to install Debian. And FreeBSD is just a sidetrack since I will need to flush my system anyway. There's some really bad RPM incongruencies on my computer when it was running mandrake, and many things won't run properly.
And then there's the question as to why would I need a high speed internet to update my computer. There's nothing preventing me from getting connected: except for an ISP. I don't plan to get service from an ISP and pay 30 dollars for the two months I will be at home to use dialup. My parents run American Online, there's no way I can tap into that resource. Furthermore, there's the problem with those Winmodems. In short, without a lan connection, I have no connection at all.
W
--
werd smiler should've tried OpenBSD
hraum...
Just a quick question, since you are the only one here I think that actually managed to get in running on the same model as my machine.
Can you tell me which version BIOS you are running currently? Since rumour has it some of the later BIOS upgrades in the T and X series in effect put the bug back in.
Thx. W
Actually, I did find that among the BSD newsgroups, but I am afraid to say that it didn't work. Even with the HDD removed, the system stalls before loading the BIOS. I am thinking maybe IBM included a no-harddrive = suspend default? {=
Which after thinking about it, doesn't sound like much nonsense, especially on the TP X series, which doesn't have a default floppy...
W
--
werd smiler [=
What got you the good list is not meta keywords at all. It is more likely that every pr0n site on the planet is linked to three dozen others, and that boosts the google rating.
On that note, wonder if we can implement traveling sales person by traversing a set of given pr0n sites using only the links provided on the site....
W
--
Sometimes I have a sig. Sometimes I don't. This is one of those times I don... doh!
More importantly, is that hardly anyone care anymore about the meta tags:
The more I think about it, the more the point shows. For our personal web pages, do we really care that it will pop up in Altavista in the top 10? I wouldn't think my machine can handle the traffic if it did.
As for refreshing pages that some brought up... the article seems to be more concerned about the meta keyword tag, which I see as an unnecessary evil when creating webpages. (Comm'on, do you really need more content in the meta keywords than in what the audience is actually going to read?) Plus, with Google becoming the tool of many a common geek/geek-wannabe's, and which does not use the meta keywords for ranking sites, what's the point? I dropped the meta keywords from my site a few months back, and the rankings didn't drop in any search engine I would use. And I did gain about 4 more kilobytes of space on my harddrive... (don't diss my kilobytes,yo q= ).
And come to think about it, I am pretty sure the reason that pr0n sites still uses meta keywords is that the dedicated searching engines of the genus pr0n-finder still uses it. Anyone care to verify that?
W
--
So my smileys are the wrong way around, wanna take it outside?
What's with American's blaming all espionage in which the Chinese received a benefit to potential Taiwanese Spies aligned with Motherland. I just love the gross generalization people make when treating different ethnicities. (Did I just contradict myself, fine, I have multitudes.)
So how many Engineers from Taiwan do you know? And have you conducted a formal poll among them to determine that none of them consider such actions as stealing?
Cue me in on what you mean by fancy weapons and huge investments in Taiwanese industry? As far as I can recall, China has sueecessfully blocked US consent to sell weapon systems to Taiwan repeatedly. Moreover, the American government's foreign policy has nothing to do whatsoever with foreign investments. We are a capitalist country; our industries invest in places where they see they can make the most profits. Be it Nike sweatshops in SE asia or the upcoming chip fab plant of Intel in China, the companies make their own decisions.
Bringing this back to the point of Chinese development of Dragon Chip. Personally, I don't really think the Chinese will willingly open-source their code, but cue me in if I am wrong, I do believe they have some sort of licensing law. There's already a few linux distros made in that area, and they all follow the GPL, but whether that's out of courtesy or law abiding, I don't know. Not to be a broken record, but techinically the Chinese Government is another country, and they can make their own laws about this thing. With the source code freely available, it ain't exactly stealing. Plus the fact that much US policy in IP rights and such are driven by coorporate lobbying...
So... yo, everybody chip in! We are gonna lobby the congress into having China obey GPL. -mischievous grin-.
W
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don't check my site. Apache is sick.